Hooh boy! This is just a hoot!

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Oh my gawd. What's that smell? I recognize the stench.

TB, for you, I found a little gem where you can get some new material.

KCNA Random Insult Generator

Have fun!

Not to belabour an old point, but Hans was correct don't forget, in that he said there was no evidence of existing nuclear, biological or chemical weapons of mass destruction, of the capability to build them imminently or of the existence of any program to get them going.

And, Doug, thanks for raising the standards around here, Doug, with your insults, "you ultra-right renegade, you have glaringly revealed your true colours!" So much better to have a machine generate your petty accusations in order to avoid dealing with issues than have to work at it yourself,
"you black-hearted political dwarf - we will resolutely smash your desperate war moves!"

TB
Cerberus

The world is now much less safe than it was during the so called "cold war" era. There are more psychotic despots and politically conditioned martyrs with a nuke, suitcase nuke or bio-WMD (and the requisite missing humanity to use it offensively on a whim), than when JFK stared down Kruschev in Cuba.

The clandestine proliferation of nukes among unstable regimes and politial movements is a monument to the failure of the UN to deal with its prime directive. What is needed is the expansion of NATO to deal with it...blind Hans can't do it. To some degree this has happened with the US Britain and Aus. adopting a "preventative" strike policy where WMDs are in the hands of a maveric regime. In a day and age where the balance of global power is compromised by emergence of dozens of rogue nuclear maverics, premptive/preventative nuke strike has become a viable policy for the super powers in dealing with this danger.

Even daffy Qaddafi saw this and proved his sense of self preservation is stronger than his schitzophenic politics when je cashed in the WMD race. Bad hair day Kim has just awaoken to this realization and now recognises that he could be vaporized any given moment by the big guys on the UN security council as long as he maintains a nuke arsenal and spits and hisses like a psycotic despot...it can happen that fast and without warning Kim...I think you just came to grips with that...ball's in your court.

Washington Times, 2002-10-29: "The leaders of two main international weapons inspection agencies urged a divided U.N. Security Council yesterday to spell out consequences of "any lack of cooperation" by Iraq in destroying its biological, chemical and other deadly weapons. Chief U.N. weapons inspector Hans Blix and Mohammed El Baradei, head of the International Atomic Energy Agency (IAEA), yesterday bolstered demands by the United States and Britain for a tough resolution threatening military action against Baghdad in the event of violations."

"Not to belabour an old point, but Hans was correct don't forget, in that he said there was no evidence of existing nuclear, biological or chemical weapons of mass destruction, of the capability to build them imminently or of the existence of any program to get them going."

You partisan goofs ARE "belaboring" it because oblique vision on the WMD/rogue state issue is all you have to offer...frankly the denial politics of this are beging to bore me.

With the old Soviet Russian state being dismantled and sold off to the highest bidder ( 16 missing suit case nukes and as many war heads)
A rougue regime needs only money to become nuclear capable...it is immatrial if Saddam had the immediate capacity to manufacture...all he needed was money to purchase nukes....thus the Oil for food idea limiting his access to revenes was thought to limit his ability to purchase a redy to go black market arsenal of WMD...but this didn't work as we see both the Russians and French and Belgians were turning weapons deals with him behind the UN's back....how long before he got a nuke?

The Moonbat brigade should be more concerned with locating the missing Russian nuclear arsenal and attacking nuts like Bad-hair-day Jong than looking for intellectually vacant mantras to play vacuous partisan politics with Washington.

At the very least, the Iraq invasion is producung a comprehensive search for WMDs..next Iran and Seria.

TB, Please, you are leaving yourself open to attack. The argument of WMD and UN approval is long since dead.

The UN is a general fraud. Ever heard of the Oil for Food scandal? Waiting for a decision from the UN is an idiot venture.

WMD.. Arial gassing of entire Kurd villages and then swarming in to clean out the goodies and occupy the houses.. Hundreds of anti-gas uniforms discovered hidden in a hospital. Required for future Kurd village gassings?

The US was justified in going after Saddam.
Your logic tells you that, and so does mine.

Ya gotta find better ammo.. man. 73s TG

The long forgotten words of Hans Blix, in Jan 2003, reporting to the United Nations:

http://edition.cnn.com/2003/US/01/27/sprj.irq.transcript.blix/

"I shall only give some examples of issues and questions that need to be answered, and I turn first to the sector of chemical weapons.

The nerve agent VX is one of the most toxic ever developed. Iraq has declared that it only produced VX on a pilot scale, just a few tons, and that the quality was poor and the product unstable.

Consequently, it was said that the agent was never weaponized.

Iraq said that the small quantity of [the] agent remaining after the Gulf War was unilaterally destroyed in the summer of 1991.

UNMOVIC, however, has information that conflicts with this account. There are indications that Iraq had worked on the problem of purity and stabilization and that more had been achieved than has been declared. Indeed, even one of the documents provided by Iraq indicates that the purity of the agent, at least in laboratory production, was higher than declared.

There are also indications that the agent was weaponized. In addition, there are questions to be answered concerning the fate of the VX precursor chemicals, which Iraq states were lost during bombing in the Gulf War or were unilaterally destroyed by Iraq."

"The document indicates that 13,000 chemical bombs were dropped by the Iraqi air force between 1983 and 1998, while Iraq has declared that 19,500 bombs were consumed during this period. Thus, there is a discrepancy of 6,500 bombs. The amount of chemical agent in these bombs would be in the order of about 1,000 tons. In the absence of evidence to the contrary, we must assume that these quantities are now unaccounted for."

Want more?

TG, it is old news and it's not. I wasn't trying to open up that issue. The point is more about what lessons can we learn from that. Was the UN totally, completely useless with respect to Saddam as claimed? He was contained without any imminent or short term threat, as the US's own reports concluded. He certainly was far far less a threat than other rogue nations. I'm no fan of the current UN - they screwed up in Bosnia and lives were lost (thank god for NATO's entry into the battle which Republicans opposed), they screwed up in Rwanda and lives were lost. But, as far as this mass murder dictator was concerned, the UN measures were doing what they were supposed to do. Now, whether the nations were asking it to do enough is another question. I do believe if you keep violating international law, there ought to eventually be consequences and eventually that ought to be enforced by military action.

He was clearly an evil dictator and we should have gone in long ago (please note this before the barrage of moronic "moonbat" comments a la WLK redux begin). And I don't care that it was an illegal war that got rid of him, just like I don't care that it was an illegal war in Bosnia. Let me repeat for those readers here who like to ignore what I write, it was a good thing to go into Iraq. And it would have been an even better thing to go into Iraq when he was slaughtering his own citizens back when he was Reagan and Bush's buddy, funded by the US.

So what's the lesson and what's next? I'm actually curious about people's thoughts here on that; you know, beyond simple statements that the UN is useless and politicized, what is the approach to take with these wingnuts dictators like Kim and Mahmood who actually have WMD? We've known they have had the weapons for longer than we suspected Saddam had them and we've done little. That's not an example of the UN's uselessness but our own resolve and courage.

I don't think that the UN is completely corrupt or completely useless. Far from it. It does a lot of wonderful and helpful things that actually do save lives. Mere dialog at the UN helped keep the Cold War cold. But it is a big government entity like any other with even less accountability so there are going to be problems and they are going to be huge. So for me, personally, I like the idea of reforming the UN but keeping them out of military endeavours which should be kept to NATO. In particular, with NATO, we have a more efficient, more easily deployable military organization... and one over which the Chinese have no say. Unfortunately, the American military is tapped out because of Iraq and the Koreans and Iranians know it.

TB
Cerberus

Did you ever actually take a look at that disgusting turd when you scrape it off the bottom of your shoe?

It sure smells and looks ugly doesn't it.

And this will prove my point (see above AND below)

"Unfortunately, the American military is tapped out because of Iraq and the Koreans and Iranians know it."

I don't have time to go into this at the moment, but I do want to mention that while the US military is stretched a little thin in some areas, it is by no means tapped out.

The Navy and the Air Force are almost up to full capacity in terms of being able to meet an emergency that would require their services. The Army and the Marine Corps do not meet their quotas every month, but recruitment is still basically successful, and there are 'up' months as well as 'down' ones.

In respect to Iran, our troops in Iraq pose a direct threat and would be easily deployable if some necessity in Iran presented itself. To the east, putting Iran in a death grip, we have our troops in Afghanistan with the ability to pour as many as we need into Iran, without the necessity of consulting some supra-national agency like the UN.

Iran's old guard presently retains power against a huge pro-Western population of young people who are tired of the old regime and want to taste Western freedom. This gives our intelligence services a great deal to work with, and ultimately Iran may have more trouble internally than otherwise.

I can't go on long here, but the real solution to the UN is for all of our countries to diminish the fruit and refinements of Marxism, i.e., liberalism. With the Western world united by shared values, strong friendships personally and alliances nationally, the West in a united effort could diminish revenues to the UN enormously and return the money to the people that it belongs to, the taxpayers.

If all of our countries in the West would get on the same page philosophically with shared responsibilities proportionately for military expenditures, we could collectively go to any tinhorn dictator in the world, stare at him with steely eyes, and say, "Before we administer the anaesthetic, you have one chance to make sure you don't something that irritates us, like breathing our air. Other wise we're going to show you how we do things downtown."

Comrades! I am terrored!

Comrades!
I am terrored! A film has just arrived on the markets of Cameroon, this film the American Police Team or some name that is similar. My nephew, purchased this and asked me to watch because he said is had something to do with DPRK. The shock I see! The general, beloved general, Kim Jong Il is a puppet character in this film and speaking the most offending things! He swears in English, kills his interpreter, and turns into a small insect at the end. They make the Dear Leader to be evil man, and lonely man. They find risible the undying love of the Korean people? They think the leadership of DPRK and the revolution is a joke? Forgive me for saying but makers of this film are bastard people! I denounce them and curse them! Bastard people!
Can we not complain to someone about such slander? Why has not the KCNA denounced this piece of capitalist propaganda? To think that they make light of the general and debase his greatness!

Mick Hartley re-posts the above quotation from a [North] Korean Friendship Association forum. Says Mick:
What amazes me more than the fact that some poor Cameroonian sap is in thrall to Kim Jong Il is the fact that there are also UK commenters there who agree with him. What is it with these ultra-leftists that they can find anything remotely praiseworthy about Kim Jong Il's extended prison camp of North Korea?

And I would ask, What is it with these ultra-leftists, that not only do they have no sense when it comes to choosing all-powerful imperial overlords, but they fail even to recognize 2004's finest film release? Disturbing.

Perversely entertaining, or disturbing, depending on perspective is that yes, there is a "KFA," and yes, ernest people from around the world -- apparently literate and mentally functional -- post there. I found this thread, in which a renegade is chastized by the moderator for attempting to set up an "unofficial" KFA, to be...predictable, typical...what is the word?
Why are you trying to form a renegade "KFA" section in the USA? You should be part of the real, official section that already exists with a link on this site. Are you a splittist? I bet that you support Taiwan independence, too...

Posted by Solomon at September 22, 2005 02:51 PM >>> more
http://www.solomonia.com/blog/archives/006606.shtml

Is there a better song than "I'm soooo ronely" to describe the way Cerberus is feeling in this forum? Maybe he can practice a duet with Kim Il Jong while worldwide MSM ponders the wisdom of yet more appeasement by the EU towards Iranian Nuclear development.

Maybe UN president Kofi can offer Iran some neat deal where Germany, France and Russia get to produce Iranian oil and gas in exchange for their total complacency.

Wonder what the ransom would be worth if Iran built enough nuclear weapons to destroy every major oilfield in the Middle East? Would it be only money or would there be a "convert to Islam or die you infidel pigs" angle to it?

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James Taylor Country: United Kingdom Position: member
Subject: Re: Terorists makng fun of DPRK and Dear Leader!

That sounds like the recent film "Team America: World Police". This was strongly denounced by the DPRK, and their embassies asked for the film to be banned in some countries, such as the Czech Republic. However, it is such a brainless piece of work that bears little relation to the art of cinema that it's not worth extending too much anger about.

Comradely regards

Jim.

Posted on 18/09/05 19:42:09
Author: Kun Suk Tang Country: Palestinian Territory Position: member
Subject: Re: Terorists makng fun of DPRK and Dear Leader!

I must say that i agree with the comrade from Cameroon. This film was shown here in Gaza and on the West Bank I believe and as a Korean I found it to be most angering. Especially the way that they mock Koreans speaking English, saying things like “Herro” instead of Hello and “errection” instead of election. It is racist and typical of the United states to slander what they do not understand. I stand with Comrade Kwango in saying that these are bastards. They should be found and smited good for their aggressions against the people of the DPRK and Generalissimo Kim Jong Il.

KST

Comradely Jim, given that "Team America's" totally un-PC portrayals of muslim terrorists, movie celebrities, the french and the all american hero results in a very humourful yet biting satire, how can you deny that the movie's dripping in cinematic art (just not the liberal "feed the christian to the gay community" variety).

Throw in various touching musical performances and a novel portrayal of marionette romance, the "Team America" movie must be regarded as a black humor classic.

If it makes some DPRK automatons a bit angry after they "accidentally" see it...then all the better. Without strong emotions, change within the DPRK for the better is impossible.

From Ted and Jane, with regards...

A snippet from the FDD blog:
...Christopher Hitchens, the writer, told me about a visit he made to North Korea four years ago.

He took a tour of the enormous palace in the mountains that houses the gifts given to Kim Jong Il and his father - from the folks who suck-up to power.

A stuffed bear’s head from Ceausescu of Romania-fancy personal railroad cars from the Soviets. A large warthog from Mugabe of Zimbabwe.

All the gifts –except perhaps the warthog - which is now in a zoo- are labeled and arranged for display more than 60,000 of them.

On a table, Hitchens spotted a large silver box. It had initials engraved on the top. Three letters. Hmm. He picked it up. They read “C N N.” The tag said it came from Jane Fonda and Ted Turner. Nice...>>> more
http://www.solomonia.com/blog/

As this bane nuclear issue is twisted and distorted, yet again, by the "Democratic" "People's" "Republic" of Korea... A bumper crop of North Korean rice is almost ready to be harvested.

Perhaps THIS is finally the year that "Manse" has brought North Korean citizens something other than dark oppresion.

http://www.alertnet.org/thenews/newsdesk/SEO93259.htm

North Korea - Invisible Prison

There is a country where millions live in grinding poverty with insufficient nutrition and authorities who torture, imprison and murder dissidents, or just those who run afoul of the powers-that-be. Their regional neighbors enforce the borders of the prison-state they live in. Oddly, one will never see a banner at a major march carried on their behalf, though their cause is surely just.

The Marmot: On legs with no feet, N.K. defector reaches Thailand [Disturbing Picture Warning]
...According to the Chosun Ilbo, a North Korean woman, identified by her family name of Park, recently arrived in Thailand with her 19-year-old son and two North Korean women and is awaiting passage to South Korea. What makes Park’s story truly amazing is that this she made the trip without feet, having lost them thanks to torture she suffered at the hands of North Korean security authorities after she was repatriated to the Workers’ Paradise during a previous defection attempt...

Posted by Solomon http://www.solomonia.com/blog/

http://www.rapp.org/url/?ELXFPL3X
Disturbing Picture Warning.

North Korea is in a bit of a corner. When a Pit Bull is in a corner, the behaviour tends to be nasty aggresive.

North Korean leadership is Iron Fisted. They have managed miserably, yet they make viscious flourishes to threaten and maintain power.

The Nuclear sabre rattling is useful in making changes in amounts of foreign aid and other concessions.

They learned, if you rattle yer Nuclears, ye get listened to. Also they understand the conditions that led the USA to stomp on Afghanistan and Iraq, so naturally, with their conditions being similar, they are somewhat paranoid. '3s TG

If one can not spend 53 minutes watching this program, why even try and care about the North Korean nuclear issue...

http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/shows/kim/view/