The Trouble With Sheepdogs . . . from Grandinite
. . . is that they still obey their masters. Everybody and their border collie has linked to a blog post at Eject! Eject! Eject! entitled “tribes”. You may as well join the herd, turn up Who Let The Dogs Out and read it. It is a good read... [Read More]

Tracked on September 8, 2005 12:49 AM

I completely agree with your link selection, Kate. I was fortunate enough to read Bill's essay at about 19:00 Greenwich Mean Time yesterday. I would suggest Bill's essay be read in conjunction with Mark Steyn's latest at the Sun-Times and at the Telegraph (as always, available at http://www.marksteyn.com ).

"that if the Superdome had been filled with white, middle-class, racist, conservative cocksuckers like myself, it would not have been a refinery of horror, but rather a citadel of hope and order and restraint and compassion."

I got to this point and stopped reading

really Maz, puhleez

which white supremacist organization are you enlisted with? Wolfgang Droege is dead or haven't you heard? Did David Duke make it out of Louisiana alive from Katrina? Maybe you know

...and noticed when trying to make a comment to exercise democratic rebuttal but wasn't able too - which seems to be common on some "far right wing" blogs (sorry didn't want to say it) this message:

"Your comment was denied; at some point, it matched our blacklist."

I realize some things are pointless and not worth the fight...time to move on

Essay "Tribes" is by Bill Whittle on his blog. Here is Bill:>>

I would like to stress as clearly as I possibly can that the entire sheep/sheepdog/wolf analogy -- which is magnificent -- has nothing whatsoever to do with me, and is the product of Lt Col. Grossman's genius.

Otherwise, thank you.

Bill Whittle

PS... woof.
Posted by: Bill Whittle on September 5, 2005 10:45 AM

2065: The collective memory of the global socialist welfare state is only as long as it's media functionaries determine is appropriate for the proletariate....generally no longer than 3 weeks...with the exception of the heroic Martyrs of the world socialist people's movement.

Political history, particularly that of wars waged for individual freedom by the old capitalist/democratic world order have long ago vanished from the rewritten and revised historic record kept by the ministry of truth.

It is most unfortunate that Holland -the country saved from the ravages of the Nazis, particularly the unhumane medical games being played by Nazi doctors, has now chosen to mimic those same games with a open and willing ethanasia campaign using doctors to sanitize their evil acts -just as did the Nazis. If you are old and ill (read as having a negative value)in Holland, don't go into a hospital unless you like being Terri Schaivoed

Despite all the criticism and fault finding, can anyone name one other country that would have a hundred thousand plus residents evacuated to safe areas, fed, clothed and cared for medically, more than 51,000 troops, 38,000 National Guard forces and 13,000 Active Duty Force on the ground in the affected area less than one week after a disaster of this scope? Can anyone name one country that would have responded anywhere near as quick to a disaster that involved losing one of their own major cities? Despite all the complaining by the leftist and do-nothing local officials that were not prepared and could not do anything to help, Bush, the US troops. the National Guard and the active duty forces have come through with flying colours. The levee break has been repaired and soon pumps will begin to pump water out of New Orleans, even as searches continue for the dead. In fact the search and rescue phase is still ongoing as well, including drones flying low over flooded areas searching for body heat signals that indicate living survivors.

Like I say, name one other country in the world that could respond to a disaster of this size like this.

But just think of how much better it could have been if some of the low-life who were living in New Orleans and surrounding areas had pitched in and tried to help others less fortunate instead of stealing guns from local gun shops, looting, raping and killing? Just think of how much better it could have been if the local officials had used the many school busses to go around and pick up the elderly and infirm instead of deserting them? Just think of how much better it could have been if the local officials had asked for federal help immediately instead of three days later?

There is a lesson here that the Democrats and Bush haters in America and around the world will not learn. Guaranteed. So this scenario will repeat itself again and again across America and probably up here in Canada. The same disease afflicting many parts of the US is also rampant in Canada. But the good guys and gals of the US Armed Forces, National Guard and Active Duty Force will follow along behind every time, cleaning things up, while the socialist scum do nothing, complaining all the while and blaming others because it is always someone else's fault.

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Here's one for you on WorldNetDaily:

Homosexuals celebrate in ravaged New Orleans - Dozen of 'gays' march up Bourbon Street, reslate Southern Decadence for tomorrow
http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=46161

Rome anyone?

Just a bit of advice to " habamusrodentum" - if you are going to admit that you "got to this point and stopped reading", it's probably best to resist the impulse to issue a critique.

Gotta go outside to work for the day... But this is so interesting.

Levee board under federal investigation before Katrina hit: Canada Free Press
http://www.canadafreepress.com/2005/cover090605.htm

Rampant public corruption was doing big business in New Orleans long before Hurricane Katrina ever hit. [And Canada was right in the middle of it.]

"Could New Orleans’s descent into quasi-revolutionary chaos be an indirect result of racketeering, kickbacks and procurement fraud by Democrat insiders with ties to a fast-growing organization called `La Francophonie’?

"...a Montreal-based, racketeering influenced and corrupt organization (RICO) with outlandish claims to represent the interests of the French-speaking world, including such luminaries as the negotiator of America's abdication of its allies in South Vietnam, John Kerry, and the companion to Kofi Annan at the U.N's school for translators in Geneva, Teresa Heinz

"In international relations, Louisiana’s foreign partners include the governments of France, the French community of Belgium, and the Canadian provinces of Quebec, New Brunswick, Nova Scotia and Prince Edward Island. Louisiana now participates in the sometimes-raucous Sommets de la Francophonie as an observer.

"La Francophonie was funded and re-structured for its dictatorial, syndicalist, racketeering and possibly genocidal goals by insiders of CIDA (Canadian International Development Agency) at a 1986 meeting in Paris.

Appears that people and organizations in Canada were/are right in the middle of this corruption, and may be partly responsible for the loss of New Orleans and over 10,000 people.

There's more. Read it all.

Reporter James Cowan & editor got "it": Notice the use of the word: "tribe". James Weir got "it". Notice the word "Ottawa": a euphemism for the statist, welfare, AdScam Martin, son of Chretien, socialist regime: the sheep and the wolves, indeed. The regime, of course, is the wolves, the predators.>>>>
Excerpts:
National Post: http://www.rapp.org/url/?VXNKC5HK

Canadians find own way home
'It was just terror': Six tourists tired of Ottawa's unmet promises of help

James Cowan
National Post

Tuesday, September 06, 2005

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CREDIT: Global News
Jay Weir and his wife were stranded in New Orleans and left to fend for themselves in the aftermath of Hurricane Katrina.

Stranded among garbage and corpses outside a New Orleans shopping mall, a group of Canadians exhausted by threats of armed looters, dwindling supplies and unmet promises of rescue took a drastic step: They ran for it.

After waiting days for help to arrive after Hurricane Katrina struck, the six tourists left their encampment outside the Riverwalk Marketplace on Saturday, dashing through ravaged streets to a government checkpoint and finally boarding one of the hundreds of buses leaving the city. The tourists left the relative safety of their perch on top of an elevated walkway after concluding that help promised by the Canadian government was never going to arrive.
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"We had a big, democratic group of people who were focused on surviving, keeping safe and feeding ourselves," Mr. Weir said.

Described by one reporter who visited the site as "an oasis in hell," the group's ranks swelled with British and Australian tourists and others looking for shelter from the chaos.

"We had a guy with a pacemaker and no medicine, we had a diabetic, people with heart conditions, people going into labour, we had a nurse who dragged three patients off a bridge. We had quite an eclectic crowd," Mr. Weir said.

As the food inside the mall rotted and its toilets overflowed, Mr. Weir's impromptu tribe established latrines and stockpiled ice, water and dried goods such as crackers. One woman even became the group's "cook," rationing supplies and ensuring that children, the elderly and the injured were fed first.

The analysis by Bill Whittle on 'grey' vs' 'pink' cultural behaviour, which rejects racism and focuses on learned behaviour - is superb.

The fault for the New Orleans disaster, which, as Whittle points out, was a Category 5 hurricane..a bigger force than the tsunami of Dec 04..which moved inland for several miles while the hurricane moved for several hundred miles...rests with the Mayor and Governor. That's the first level of authority. The second fault lies with the corruption within the city and state...and that's local as well.

John Crittenden's reference to this corruption, and its ties with our Canadian gov't (and the UN via M. Strong)..is revealing. It's not only Chretien who was promoting the notion of The Global Set of Francophone Nations..all linked to France and its colonies in Africa; it's Martin. Martin is busy setting up Canada as a Francophone nation, aligned with France..and busy strengthening this whole 20-member global set..all under France..and working with the UN, to develop its own 'globalism'. You've probably read Annan's latest desires for the UN as the Global Government. France, of course, wants to take over the EU....

ET. That's right. This is the really big story as far as Canada is concerned. I do hope a really good investigative reporter looks into this further. I hope this story catches on in Canada. But I'm sure that Martin and his ilk will do everything they can to crush it.

Apply this essay/theory to Canada and it doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure out why we have the problems we've got.

Whittle's article was excellent. Good use of analogy by the Colonel.
maz2 said: "The regime, of course, is the wolves, the predators"
Bingo.
If the wolves plan is to take control of the sheep, then they must "defang" the sheepdogs first. Whether we wear a uniform or not doesn't change the responsibility we accept to see such a potential outcome and fight to avoid it. The sheepdogs will take a personal responsibility to defend the sheep, even without being asked...And even if the threat is internal. We Canadians are to a great extent foolishly complacent. It has been so long since most of us have been threatened or attacked that we don't really believe it can happen. Who needs the sheepdogs if there are no wolves? This attitude is either criminally negligent or foolishly nieve.
The slow destruction of our institutions like the Armed Forces parallels the slow destruction of our civil liberties. What a coincidence!

Remember the old Chinese curse- "May you be born in interesting times!"

Anyway, I don't necessarily wish to sound like I'm crying "WOLF". But I sure am smelling them a lot more lately...

Mike

John has some very interesting information in his post.

New Orleans is the most French-decadent and ghost haunted city in the US. Its history is full of piracy, riverboat gambling, and fancy upscale bordellos where ladies of ill fame speak French. And voodoo in the swampland... oh yeah, and good restaurants. When you read Ann Rice (not my cup of tea, but what the hey) it is not surprising that vampires would arise in the city of zombies. In Ann Rice you can hear the dim echo of Baudelaire, Verlaine and Rimbaud. Regrettably, people romanticize all this.

It is fairly widely understood that Louisiana generally and New Orleans specifically are the most corrupt states and city that we have in the US. Even in Texas, the closer you get to the Louisiana state line, you find more corruption.

New Orleans' history features the pirate Jean LaFitte and the famous voodoo woman Marie LaVeau. You can find little books about them both in a lot of the tourist shops. (http://www.crimelibrary.com/gangsters_outlaws/cops_others/lafitte/1.html and http://www.parascope.com/en/articles/voodooQueen.htm for example)

I ran into a Creole once who surprised me when she explained that Creole French and Canadian French were virtually identical. I had figured there would be some differences in pronunciation or something, but she claimed this is not the case.

I had a black acquaintance from my own hometown of Midland, Texas (think barbeque, horned toads and cowboy boots), who was dating a guy from Louisiana, and she broke it off with him because trips back home were consumed with voodoo.

Haitian voodoo is all integrally involved with French colonialism and Afro-Catholicism (old African gods intermingled with the Catholic religion).

A couple of decades ago, the mafia was Louisiana's biggest employer, and it was Louisiana's biggest growth industry. Carlos Marcello (later to be implicated along with Santos Tropicante in the Kennedy assassination) had his trouser pockets on the left side altered so the pocket reached to his knee, and he basically drove around all day paying people $50,000 bribes.
(And that was back when $50,000 was still $50,000.)

Although people associate the mafia with New York's famed five families, actually the first mafia family in the US was in Louisiana, and they've been doing a great business there ever since. When David Duke ran for president, Louisiana was so concerned about its reputation that they drug out a guy to run who had served jail time and was deeply involved in mafia connected racketeering and the gaming industry. (http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2003/10/16/eveningnews/main578506.shtml)

Down in New Orleans, sometimes cops guard drug shipments.

I'll end the rather rambling nature of this post by simply saying that socialism and corruption work very well together, and they've been operating in partnership in Louisiana for many years.

Canada => Francophony => NOLA => Haiti => M. Jean => Canada, and the loop is complete.

Western and Northern LA are nothing like the south-east. That, too, sounds like Canada.

John Crittenden said:

"Despite all the criticism and fault finding, can anyone name one other country that would have a hundred thousand plus residents evacuated to safe areas, fed, clothed and cared for medically,"

.......And the miracles the Army Corps of Engineers has done in repairing the levees and draining NOL. Not to mention the nameless millions of volunteers who came to the rescue. This is America's miraculous ability to regenerate from disaster and do so with the most amount of lives saved as possible....a miricle by global standards and a dispaly of "the American way" in action.....but this was my very point in my previous post John.

Even as the disaster is being dealt with and healed, the history of the event is being rewritten by media sources who are at odds with " the American way". It has to be presented as a negative event. I see it portrayed as if this was a disaster that the government could have some how prevented or abated...that some how , ultimately, this is a government policy issue and not a natural tragedy with a human cure.....the miraculous rescues, charity and regenerative efforts of Americans is played down....it's been politicized.

With such twisted spin as this common in the MSM, I contended that the event would be either totally forgotten by 2065 or respun in the historic record for the political benefit of the new order regime of the day.

This disaster was quite a display of the two forces at war in America today....the ones Mr. Whittle has coined in allegory as "tribes"..or creeds of Americans separated by values. Essentially it is old or traditional individualist, civily responsible America confronting the degenerated humanity and values of New Deal entitlement America....the welfare state reliant underclass

Those who are traditional Americans with traditional American values will be thankful they came out of this with their lives, thank others for the out-pouring of charity and the chance to rebuild their shattered dreams and mark it as a date to celebrate and remember.

The new or non-traditional Americans, those embued with the claim-oriented selfishness, compromised personal values and degenerated self respect of the nanny state client, think only in terms of entitlement....they complain the "state" was too slow in response, they swear at the state and rescuers that their "entitlement" of rescue, food, shelter were not forthcoming fast enough or in too small quantities...they claim the "right" to loot and lawlessness....they also fall in on the self pity and victim mentality of the welfare state client in blamining this all on the fact that they are black and "gummint" ( read: traditional Amrica) just wants to keep them down. They refuse responsibility for their iwn actions or lack of action...they feel their destiny is determined by the check writing ability of the government.

I saw these two forces throughout the entire ordeal and I can't say that the traditional American has had his time at the microphone or ear of the MSM.

Whittle was correct, it's not about race..it's about mindset and the mindsets at conflict in America insupportable entitlement reliance versus self responsibility and individualism. The two tribes have been at war since FDR created the nanny state.

But the historic record will entrench the negativism of the entitlement "tribe".

Huey Long.

Excerpt:

http://www.spartacus.schoolnet.co.uk/USAlongH.htm

In 1934 Long convened a special session of the legislature in Louisiana and pushed through bills that placed electoral machinery in the governor's hands, outlawing interference by the courts with his use of national guardsmen, and creating his own secret police.

In May 1935 Long began having talks with Charles Coughlin, Francis Townsend, Gerald L. K. Smith, Milo Reno and Floyd B. Olson about a joint campaign to take on President Franklin D. Roosevelt in the 1936 presidential elections. Two months later Long announced that his police had discovered a plot to kill him. He now surrounded himself with six armed bodyguards. In August 1935, Long announced his candidacy for the presidency.>>
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My dad was a tank mechanic in WWII. He was in Holland. I think it really broke his heart and spirit to see the Dutch people starving. Probably wasn't great fixing and hosing out blood and guts from broken tanks. Before the war I know he was quite an optomistic sort from reading his diaries and scrapbooks.
He was only about 20 when he was there.
I think he thought it was worth it. To help fight a tribe thought they racially and morally superior to all others. They weren't. They still aren't.

Stuff I just posted:
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-Frustrated: Fire crews to hand out fliers for FEMA

As New Orleans Mayor Ray Nagin pleaded on national television for firefighters - his own are exhausted after working around the clock for a week - a battalion of highly trained men and women sat idle Sunday in a muggy Sheraton Hotel conference room in Atlanta.

Many of the firefighters, assembled from Utah and throughout the United States by the Federal Emergency Management Agency, thought they were going to be deployed as emergency workers.

Instead, they have learned they are going to be community-relations officers for FEMA, shuffled throughout the Gulf Coast region to disseminate fliers and a phone number: 1-800-621-FEMA.

On Monday, some firefighters stuck in the staging area at the Sheraton peeled off their FEMA-issued shirts and stuffed them in backpacks, saying they refuse to represent the federal agency.
(pics of disgusted firemen at my site - Anon.)
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BBC:

Iran has offered to send 20m barrels of crude oil to the US to help with the consequences of Hurricane Katrina.
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Stranded in New Orleans -- please send beer

Curt Belton, a Department of Wildlife and Fisheries agent in charge of boats touring the city, told Tuesday of a message found in a wine bottle drifting in floodwaters along Canal Street in the entertainment district.

"To whom it may concern: Please send with immediately, (one) ice cold chest of Coors Light. I'm out at this time. Down to wine. Some shrimp and oysters would also be appreciated. Thank you," said the note, which was signed and gave an address.

Belton said the patrol went to the home and found the author sitting on his front porch.

Between sips of wine, he told them he was staying and had enough wine to last "quite a few days." Belton said he was going to frame the note because it was "pure New Orleans".

The emergency official said that of the 15 to 20 people his patrol encountered in homes on Monday, only one agreed to leave.

"There's just a ton of people still out there," Belton said. "They don't want to come, and the main reason they're giving us is their pets," he said. "It's crazy."
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Official: E. Coli bacteria detected in floodwater
From CNN:

Floodwater in New Orleans is contaminated with E. coli bacteria, a city official told CNN Tuesday.

The official in Mayor Ray Nagin's office declined to be identified.
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Bush to oversee probe into what went wrong

Beset with criticism over the federal response to Hurricane Katrina, President Bush said Tuesday he will oversee an investigation into what went wrong and why -- in part to be sure that the country would withstand more storms or even a weapons of mass destruction attack.
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"What I intend to do is lead an investigation to find out what went right and what went wrong," Bush said. "We still live in an unsettled world. We want to make sure we can respond properly if there is a WMD (weapons of mass destruction) attack or another major storm."
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Good News, Bad News

The U.S. Army Corps of Engineers began pumping water out the flooded city Monday after closing a major gap in the levee that burst during Hurricane Katrina, flooding 80 percent of the bowl-shaped city.
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In neighboring St. Bernard Parish, officials expressed frustration that federal aid, slow to reach New Orleans, was even slower to get to outlying areas.

``This is Day 8, guys. Everything was diverted first to New Orleans, we understand that. But do you realize we got 18 to 20 feet of water from the storm, and we've still got 7 to 8 feet of water?'' said Ron Silva, a district fire chief. ``If you had dropped a bomb on this place, it couldn't be any worse than this.''
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Houston evacuees balking at plans to move to cruise ships

"Today's relocation of about 4,000 evacuees from the Astrodome and Houston's other giant shelters to two Galveston-based cruise ships has been delayed because shelter residents don't want to go. Volunteers trying to fill buses bound for Kentucky also found few takers.

Anyone see the video posted on that site with the 2 female cops casually looting a walmart with the other "looters"...that was my hypocrisy hit for the day...until one of them threatened the reporter filming their little free shopping trip with looting charges ROTFLMAO....made my day. ;-)

You can put the badge or uniform of the sheepdog on the other tribe but they still won't lose the "pink" entitlement mentality....maybe why sheep dogs have unions. ;-)

If you want sanity, go here.

The Questions the Media Should be Asking

i'm still reading but just to let you know, the link in the story -

Here (is a video of New Orleans finest helping themselves at WalMart. (Don’t hold the site against me – it’s pretty loose.)

- is not only pretty loose it is x-rated. one of the women looks like a child, and there is no video of walmart being looted.

Maureen
The site has to load the video clip ,it takes a while , after you see the looting cops scroll down and watch Kanye West Say "Goeorge Bush doesn't care about black people."
It's a laugh riot!

Thanks, but I'll give it a pass.

WOOF!

Just got back from a weekend in Cowtown and am catching up with you Kate. Thanks for the link to "tribes". Makes you wonder about the Canadian voting public in the upcoming election, will we vote for 'GREY' Harper or 'PINK' Martin?

Any comments?

It was a good essay because it plays to the reader's ego and makes them feel good. How many people, after reading it, identifiy as 'sheepdogs'? Sheepdogs still obey their masters. He derides viewpoints of left/right, black/ white but then uses pink/grey and then sheep, wolves and sheepdogs. He added a third category. Now that's revolutionary.

Don't get me wrong, it was a good read. But good reads and good arguments are two different things.