There ain't no reaching people like him.
RIP Democracy and Freedom in his hands.
I just wrote a simplistic sentence because I'm stunned.

Wow. That's all I can say. Wow.

"Never trust a man who isn't a socialist when he's 18, and a conservative when he's 30"
Winston Churchill.

or something like that, 18 or 20, can't remember exactly.

That guy has a long way to go.

WTC as a government connected target??? Holy Crap!

"Any man who's not a liberal at 18 has no heart. Any man who's not a conservative at 30 has no brain." -WSC

Not to nitpick but it's an important distinction between socialist and liberal, at least it was in Churchill's time.

This Liberanos logic is dreamwalking. Canadian forces are totally involved and always have been. Don't forget our Navy service off Iraq and current forays into BinLaden land.

A bombing in Canada is just a matter of time. Question is what will hurt both us and the USA most.

Are our refineries well guarded? That kind of damage would hurt both our economies.

We are suffering now. Even without a hit. Witness the container trucking strike causing severe losses to businesses who can't ship or import offshore.

I suggest also that our offshore oil platform be under intense guard.

The international bridge is a known possible target.

The London underground was such an obvious target, one wonders if the obvious choices will continue or if the next target will be less predictable.

73s TG

Thanks for the clear up on the quote, I was going by memory, and haven't used it in years.

Huge distinction.

Anyways, the point is now accross.

I confess I am only about to begin reading this post, but the title immediately recalled something similar I read recently titled, "Leaving the Left" by Keith Thompson. Here's the URL for those who haven't read it:

http://sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2005/05/22/INGUNCQHKJ1.DTL

And here's Thompson's website, as I recommend people who frequent SDA visit it and partake of some of his writings:

http://www.thompsonatlarge.com/

Duh! "Prestigious Liberal Party". Methinks this dipwad is angling for a cushy governmentflunky appointment?

I sent it to a Liberal friend of mine and he advised me, big surprise, that he felt sorry for Thompson. Then he said he looked forward to many more discussions with me on politics and the left and conservatism. Claimed he could make me "see the light"! If you can believe that's coming from a very successful business owner (he owns a headhunting/aptitude analysis firm). I guess not all leftists are morons, but regardless of intellect, they can still be myopically naive...

So the passengers on the three hijacked jets were legitimate targets - they were somehow "government-connected"? And the people in surrounding buildings, those out walking on the streets, the men and women who worked at newspaper stands, bakeries, and other businesses and restaurants in the WTC - they, too, were "government-related"? I guess I missed that in the headlines; does anyone have a link to the article(s) that explained all this?

If this guy can convince himself that everyone who died in the 9/11 !!Terrorist!! (are you listening, CBC staff........) attacks was a legitimate target, then he ought to have no problem about wearing a bullseye on his back emblazoned with the caption "I Stomp Korans with Pig Dung" in large letters. Because he's *already* a target himself, using his set of definitions.

Mark had best remember one thing. WHEN - not if, WHEN - the hammer drops on Canada, those of us here the the much-maligned USofA will remember who's been with us, and who's been against us. If he should be looking for military or financial aid some day in the future, we'll be sure to tell him that we in America are smart enough to "keep ourselves out of the Canada quagmire."

(Present company excepted, Kate.)

Thompson also has a blog, though no comments section. Perhaps it's worth a look:

http://sanenation.blogspot.com/

JC made a "thoughtful, intelligent" decision? funny, I recall him dithering, prevaricating, and making a last-minute decision based upon the polls (especially from Quebec).
This kid is so smug and probably priviledged, he has a lot to learn.
Will the MSM, or the CBC, pick up on this story?

JC made a "thoughtful, intelligent" decision? funny, I recall him dithering, prevaricating, and making a last-minute decision based upon the polls (especially from Quebec).

Don't forget we supplied soldiers and support to the invasion anyway, owing to military exchange programs. We didn't see them getting yanked home based on thoughful, principled Liberal policy positions, did we?

And of course none of us have forgotten that Mr Dithers was a war supporter up until the last election campaign.

WOW this guy is amazing .... amazingly stupid ....
where do you find this stuff .... You could laugh if you didn't know that he is not alone with his moonbat thoughts.

Methinks someone needs some sense beaten into him.

That jackass is beyond offensive.

TonyGuitar. You can add the two pipelines out of Alberta to your list. The one running down to the US is the most likely in my opinion. What an easy target either of them would be though. America buys more oil from Alberta than it does from the Middle East. And, if I remember correctly, Canada exports about half of its total natural gas production and more than half its crude oil production to the United States.

If the terrorists really wanted to hurt both countries with a single act of terrorism blowing up these pipelines would certainly do it.

Mark (pity that) Johnson writes of the "American-led invasions of Afghanistan and Iraq."

But there was no "invasion" of Afghanistan. Before the fall of Kabul to the insurgent Afghan Northern Alliance in November 2001, and the consequent collapse of the Taliban regime, there were no foreign regular combat formations in Afghanistan.

The Northern Alliance did receive air support and assistance from special forces (both U.S. and British); that however is not an invasion. Substantial foreign ground combat forces--including Canadian--only entered the country after the Taliban had been deposed by indigenous Afghan forces, and those forces entered with the agreement of the Northern Alliance.

Remember what Senator Kerry said during the September 30, 2004, presidential debate: "Unfortunately, [Bin Laden] escaped in the mountains of Tora Bora. We had him surrounded. But we didn't use American forces, the best trained in the world, to go kill him. The President relied on Afghan warlords and he outsourced that job too. That's wrong." Tora Bora was in December 2001; those who "outsourced" were in no position to have invaded.

This is no mere semantic quibble. Describing what the U.S. and U.K. did in Afghanistan as an "invasion" tends to equate those actions in people's mind with the real invasion of Iraq. That equation implicitly and wrongly calls into question the legitimacy of American and British actions in Afghanistan.

Can people not accurately recall what happened under four years ago? Or maybe they choose not to in order to mislead. Or maybe, incredibly, they just don't know.

Mark
Ottawa

If the terrorists really wanted to hurt both countries with a single act of terrorism blowing up these pipelines would certainly do it.

Geez, way to give 'em ideas! Now we`ll have to watch for a bunch of wealthy students acting all Baader-Meinhof style, armed with downloaded copies of the Anarchist Cookbook and trying to blow up the pipelines in the name of "Palestinian solidarity"...!

From Mark Johnson's website: "I'm a security guard for the Canadian Corps of Commissionaires..." Maybe Osama can get a job too. God help us all. Also he's "a fourth-year student at the University of Waterloo..." This is what passes for a university-educated person today. God help us all.
http://www.angelfire.com/on4/markis/aboutme.htm

Mark
Ottawa

"Vice-President (Finance) of the Students for Palestinian Rights"?

"Member of the Arab Student Association"?

1. So much for his objectivity on the Middle East.

"Co-President of Students for Same-Sex Marriage"?

2. I wonder what the Muslim members of the Arab Student Association make of that.

He sounds a bit like Svend Robinson - the Palestine suicide bombers' favourite gay infidel.

This looneytune Liberal Party official doesn't seem to be aware that Canada fully supports the ongoing military action in Afghanistan.

WTC a Government-related target? Huh? Ironically, his statement is not entirely inaccurate, in that the WTC was owned by the New York City Port Authority.

That being said, since when did a local Port Authority have anything to do with military actions abroasd?

He's irrelevent- and nothing he says will ever change that.

One would have thought the University of Waterloo and it's paper, had higher standards. One would have thought so, anyway.

Lynn Myers, the local Liberal MP for Mark's riding (Kitchener-Conestoga) was believed to be facing a strong CPC challenge if teh election had taken place in June. Let's hope Mr. Myers loses the next election. If this is the type of advice he's getting from his EDA executive we're in trouble as a country.

Ideological fanaticism or zealotism provides its own internalized rationalization for everything. Cognitive dissonance is alive and well in Mr. Johnson.

Zealotism of any stripe has been and remains the root of so much conflict and suffering because such people's beliefs are not modifiable.

I have always been perplexed by the inability of socialists to discern the hypocricy and inherent disjoint between their alleged beliefs and their actions. "All pigs are equal but some are more equal than others..."

I guess its just fine for Canada to remain islolationist with respect to doing anything to uphold human rights or intervene militarily in mass crimes against humanity because doing so might interfere with "trade" and support for "social programs"

Its all part of the modernist/socialist Canadian character which is most unappealing: a complete lack of a sense of moral responsibility or obligation. I call it the "f__k you, I'm OK attitude. "Why should I worry about what's going on in the world. It doesn't affect me."

My lord how this reminds me of the policies of Neville Chamberlain in the 1930's

In my opinion, the price of freedom is responsibility.

Personally, I'll take nihilism over zealotism.

"Not to nitpick but it's and important distinction between socialist and liberal at least it was in Chuchill's time. Not today Matt - that line between the two is non existant.

This is what is coming out of our Universities to-day. I retired from a university and the students are being indoctrinated with this philosophy. Had children that attended university, but for some reason they did not get brainwashed. As a young person I wanted to attend university ended up in nursing instead. Glad I did, because I would never have been able to put the right answers on paper to satisfy my Prof and get a pass. Pretty sad isn't it.

"restructuring the tax system to stop penalizing low and middle-income earners"

Yes, and that's sure to be effective. Once you scare away all the rich folks and any investment with punitive tax rates, everyone will be a low-income earner - if they still have a job.

"legalization of marijuana, gay marriages, and euthanasia"

So we'll all be stoned, same-sex couples but if it doesn't work out - no problem! We'll just have ourselves killed.

"protection of the environment, including the ratification of the Kyoto Accord"

I thought we already did ratify. And how do you protect the environment when you're unemployed and stoned?

"more centralized government in Canada"

I'm sure that'll solve all our problems with the separatists and alienated Westerners: pulling in even more power to the centre.

"massive expansion of public transit"

And we'll need those lousy buses and trains because no-one will be able to afford a car.

"aggressively paying down Canada's national debt"

How? And with whose money?

He's just destroyed any incentive to work, start a business or invest in the future.

We're also so stoned on hemp we haven't noticed that:

a. we've just married Svend Robinson, and

b. Sven's having us put down for our own good.

At the same time, we're stumbling about hugging trees and kissing rocks while our centralized government is shutting down any industry that might produce even the vaguest whiff of Kyoto-flaunting fumes.

Meanwhile, that same centralized government will no doubt shipping any of us still alive (and not completely buzzed) across the country in great convoys of used Bluebird school buses to work ourselves to death in the latest great five-year plan to pay off our national debt.

This guy is reality challenged...

That folks is what we call a COWARD! Wow, can't he find a job as a human shield somewhere?

That folks, is a Liberal party supporter, and unfortunately indicative of the thinking of 30% of Canadians or so. These people are so breathtakingly stupid that they cannot be reached, however, that means there are 70% who can be reached, and this pile of dung should be quoted in TV commericials as a LPC official.

I hate him, and I'm not one fly off the handle like that. "Inteligent and thoughtful", Cretin and Martin? What he fails to note is that had Clinton still been in power good ole JC would have been so close behind the States as to make them indistinguishable.

(By the by, anyone recall the tribute JC gave Clinton at his last G8 visit? You would swear JC was trying to climb in bed with him; and I'm not so sure the rutting pig demered.)

This is the type of inhumane individual who would gladly sacrifice hundreds of Iraqis, Brits, Spaniards or whoever to prove that the invasion won't work. You know the type, them that bask in a morbid and smug glea whenever the body count goes higher. Not because they enjoy quantifying of these tradgedies of course, but because it makes George Bush look bad.

No way is this guy a baseball fan.

What an asshole. Thank God none of the people I know who worked at the WTC were killed, but his own edification none of them worked for the government, federal, state or local.

"Ironically, his statement is not entirely inaccurate, in that the WTC was owned by the New York City Port Authority."

That's actually the Port Authority of New York and New Jersey, the US's largest legal entity established by interstate compact. The PA had its headquarters there, and owned the site, though it was under lease to Larry Silverstein, who in turn sublet to the individual commercial tenants.

Some things never change and one of them are student newspapers run by left wing idiots. This just shows how far out the Libranos have gone into left field.

Does anybody remember Cretin stand up in the Commons and saying we'd be sending 800 troops to Iraq, and then the next day (the eve of a Quebec election), recanted? Canada's position had more to do with Da Legassy dan wit etics and integritty. Don't forget, Librano indoctrination is rampant in the universities, and soon, coming to a daycare centre near you. Wonder who he'll blame for a made-in-Canada attack?

Feel free to send a letter to the editor:

http://imprint.uwaterloo.ca/static/edletter.php

Please let them know what you really think about that article.

Better yet, point out some of the factual errors....

Okay, I've just read about the Johnson feller.

And my reaction is:

This is a prime example of the kind of people I'm always talking about: leftists who cannot think coherent thoughts; who cannot logically, with reference to reality, explain why they say and believe what they do.

In many ways, superficially, initially, they seem quite normal and harmless. But discuss certain critically important matters with them and you're taken aback at their unbelievable lack of intelligence. You know they're thinking what they're told to think.

These people are a serious threat to humanity, not normally as individuals, but collectively, yes, without doubt!

This is the sort of person the Liberals, the NDP, Greens and BQ and the American Democrats are competing for in terms of votes. Oh, yes.

I only need to remind everyone what happened with the Nazis, the Soviet Communists, the Maoist Communists, the Islamofascists and on and on. Johnson claims he's no Communist. Absolute, transparent yakshit! No different than Paul Martin claiming he believes in democracy! Johnson apparently fails to realize that communism is far, far broader in its reach and idealogy than it was during the Cold War. It includes, among others, socialists, believers in the idea that there is actually a nation and a people known as Palestine, Islamofascist terrorists, non-straight sexual practitioners of all persuasions, etc. etc.

I know this not only from observing their true reality over time, but also from observing various types of leftist parades, demonstrations, rallies, etc. in which ALL OF THEM are present. The commies, the pictures of pink triangles, the rainbow-colored banners, people wearing kaffiyehs (a clear sign of Palestinism and of anti-Israelism and anti-Semitism), youth wearing black and green and camoflage clothing, hiding their faces with all kinds of masks like outlaws. They chant slogans inciting for the downing of Conservatives, Republicans, etc.

These events are always well-covered and respectfully reported on by the MSM.

They are all banded together for whatever they believe they're about (I truly haven't a fecking clue whatever that is).

The DANGER posed by them cannot be overestimated!

The various extremists as noted above are very closely allied with the Liberals, NDP, BQ, Greens, the Democrats in the US, the MSM, the legal and judicial branches of gov't, law enforcement, etc.

If you think of the potential for this EVIL ALLIANCE OF THE 21ST CENTURY for world dominance and a return to the Dark Ages via the starting of World War Three, complete with nuclear explosions everywhere and genocides and holocausts of people who oppose them, then you can understand.

This is what I mean when I talk about the Vast, Left-Wing Conspiracy.

The Conservatives and Republicans do NOT need to do anything to try attracting these moonbats to their parties. It is not just unnecessary but extremely dangerous. Rather these conservative parties must bring conservatives and true libertarians (not leftists) together in one big powerful union in order to prevent the VLWC from staying in power in Canada and from taking power in America.

Someone mentioned Chamberlainism. I loathe that sort of thing. It gave comfort to the Nazis, for heaven's sake! It gives comfort to Al Qaeda today! I urge the Churchillian doctrine for my fellow conservative libertarians to fight the enemies of humanity. We will never surrender. We will fight to the death or be put to death where we stand with mouths agape in surprise when we see the people we thought were normal suddenly open their shirts and press a red button on their bombbelts...

Just so y'all don't start thinking I've lost it, I can tell y'all that the stuff I said above scares the fecking daylights out of me!

But it just had to be said! I couldn't leave it alone!

Tony Guitar asks if our oil refineries are guarded.

Answer: No. Absolutely not.

I live a very short distance from the Irving Oil Refinery in Saint John, NB. I work much closer, still, under the shadow, in fact, of the frightening giant that looks like a Borg space station from Star Trek.

If it's attacked, I am royally fucked!

JJM:

I was working on something similar to what you did and had it about half-way done, then I saw your post. Damn, but you did it so much better than my crep! :-) Nicely done.

Can anyone explain to my why the Consevatives are saying they will respect Kyoto and keep it in place? Is there just SO much money available to be laundered and squirrelled away that NO political party can resist it? Just wondering.

LM. I, too, am just wondering. You don't like the Conservatives, do you? Do you really think we're no different from the Librano crooks? Guess you don't read anything I write.

Just wondering.

Just so you folks know a company by the name of Cantor Fitzgerald leased about 9 floors in the WTC.
Cantor was at the a primary dealer in Government debt. When the US wants to sell Treasuries or Agencies there are about 15 firms that are allowed to bid for it and then re-sell it to the world.
Treasuries are what the Federal Reserve uses to control the Money Supply. Agencies are longer term
5, 10 and 30 year debt. The 30 has subsequently been discontinued.

Espeed is owned by Cantor and is the largest electronic platform for trading in Government securities. Treasuries alone trade some $380 billion a day on electronic platforms.

Food for thought huh.

Incidentally espeed was also the platform that was
going to be used to trade Kyoto credits.

Stephen wrote:

>> Do you really think we're no different from
>> the Librano crooks?

Despite all evidence to the contrary, all politicians are _human_. There will be <sagan>billions and billions and billions</sagan> of dollars available for Kyoto-related environmental projects. It's entirely possible that unscrupulous members of the Conservative party could realise this and be tempted.

I'm convinced that's why the Liberals really want Kyoto -- the theft to be had there makes the gun registry look like pocket change. It's not too far a stretch to think that corrupt members of other parties might see that, too.

Anyway -- I doubt that's why the Conservatives really want to support Kyoto. So if that's not it, then what's the real reason?

And don't say "the environment". Read a bit of geology and history and you'll see that it's been much warmer in North America -- and much colder -- than it is now.

>> Guess you don't read anything I write.

That's not true. In fact, I share your stuff with friends. One of whom asked me today "Who the hell is this guy, and why does he think he own's Kate's blog?"

I should put a smiley in here so you know I'm not being a jerk, so here it is: :-)

Crickey. Strike the apostrophe s from "own's" above.

Sorry about that.

Anybody who advocates that 'the people in the WTC got what they deserved' needs to be watched very closely by our counterterrorism agencies. These types of people are a walking time bomb, IMO.

After reading Mark Johnson's comments I've come to the conclusion that Aliens really are experimenting on humans.

I wonder if he salivates, spins in circles and wets himself everytime a bell rings?

Now this guy is a good case for a justifiable homicide if there ever was one.
Now I know how the islamic terrorists feel when they see a picture of Dubbya smiling.

I'm glad we cool now, LM.

I believe "unscrupulous conservative" is inherently an oxymoron; a contradiction in terms. If any member of the upcoming Conservative gov't turns out someday to be unscrupulous, he/she will be expelled. We expel feckheads all the time as they simply don't belong in a clean party.

Here, FYI, is Conservative policy on the environment. It is binding as per the constitution and per the democratic vote of the Conservative delegates at the last policy convention. We have no hidden agenda. You can read for yourself what exactly we stand for.

http://www.conservative.ca/EN/policy_declaration/i)_environment/

We, I personally believe, will continue with the treaty as it is an existing agreement upon which to carry out real, sound, workable environmental policies. Come on, the Libs haven't done shit at all- greenhouse gases are worse than ever! It's just posturing for them. People buy into it who cannot think for themselves and believe the lying MSM. That sounds better than saying, Layton-like: "The environment", doesn't it? We're not like poopyheads like him!

I'm honored you would show your friends some of my stuff. And I know I don't own SDA! I just love to play here on Katie's site. It's a fun place to be, even if we still have to be serious too.

Jeff Cosford:

Psssst. You know what? I heard that area 51 was actually located on the 99th floor of the North tower and that it contained the results of experiments on alien space ships that gave NASA the technology of warp speed and new metals for spacecraft hulls and a Star Trek like transporter device. All "wiped-out" in ONE DAY.

Think about it.

Regarding refineries in AB, they've got pretty tight security in place (significantly beefed up since 9/11), although I'm sure someone could fly a plane into one if they tried.

Regarding pipelines, they are only vulnerable at the various pumping stations as they are underground. I've heard on other blogs that security on the stations has also been beefed up since 9/11.

Stephen, how do you KNOW the refinery across from you is insecure?

This is what Dubya thinks of moonbats:

http://www.strangecosmos.com/content/item/13980.html

So Doug what's your point? That they don't exist or that they weren't a target. On the first look it up
on the second I have no opinion.

Here's a picture I found of some silly moonies:

http://www.strangepolitics.com/content/item/104225.html

Here's a comparison between Dubya and some moonie in a wetsuit, whatwastheguy'sname?

http://www.strangepolitics.com/content/item/102384.html

Another comparison:

http://www.strangepolitics.com/content/item/102056.html

Candace, you wanted to know:

"Stephen, how do you KNOW the refinery across from you is insecure?"

A: All I have to do is take a look around everytime I drive right past. I see no sign of any kind of security, physical, human, etc. I could simply drive right into the complex, get out, plant a tiny suitcase nuke somewhere strategic and casually walk away holding the remote detonator. It's plain to the naked eye there's no security against terrorists. I believe what I see.

OMG! Thanks Kate, you really ruined my day with this tidbit. And he is a security guard??? As it those people who provide security at airports??? I feel really safe flying into Canada now.
BTW, most of the Corps of Commissionaires are retired military folks that take their job seriously and would NOT like to be associated with this nutbar.

Plus, the new natural gas pipeline is a short distance away, ABOVEGROUND AND VULNERABLE. It is possible to stand on an overpass and drop a bomb onto it, just like that! Saint John is not very security conscious as far as my observations and experiences go.

" most of the Corps of Commissionaires are retired military folks that take their job seriously and would NOT like to be associated with this nutbar."

That's so true. I know from meeting the Commissionaires. Very serious yet friendly (after they know you enough), mostly ex-military.

Picked this post up from the comment section on Captains Quarters on the "Tories Still Polling Badly thread. I think this poster may be a freind of Mark Johnson. So much misinformation and fuzzy logic its hard to know where to begin to rebut.

(The)document that is the Conservative Party's platform? But what is it really? There are very few statements that commit to anything? It just a bunch of rhetoric!

But I did see a little bit of clearly articulated statements in Issues:

Definition of Marriage
The Conservative Party will fight to give a greater voice to Parliament. We will ensure that issues like marriage are decided by Parliament, not the courts. That's a cop out! He already knew the court had made their ruling … all that was required from government was the rubber stamp.

So big deal … had a free vote been given in parliament the decision of the court had already overruled whatever stance anyone took. Just another miserable attempt to throw flames at the Liberal government.

Defending our Fisheries
The Conservative Party will fight for our fisheries. We will decentralize fisheries decision-making and ensure that EI provides adequate income protection in case of job loss.

Oh ho … and we all know what Harper thinks about the eastern provinces, he described them in 2003 as the "culture of defeat".

The man just doesn't know when to keep inflammatory statements to himself.

Access to Health Care
The Conservative Party supports the national health care agreement. A Conservative government will cooperate with the provinces to ensure adequate funding, shorter waiting lists, and more doctors and nurses.

If you don't know that Harper has waffled going from totally supporting the 3rd way, to now claiming he would work with the system, you just haven't been listening.

Immigrant Credentials
The Conservative party will fight for immigrants. We will work to ensure speedier recognition of foreign credentials and prior work experience.

And yet when he addresses the Sikk Community he used same sex as a divisive issue. "This is a threat to any Canadian who supports multiculturalism," Mr. Harper said Friday night. "It is a threat to a genuinely multicultural country."

No I don't want a party rooted in religion.

Protecting Children
The Conservative Party will fight for our children. We will replace the Liberal’s “public good” defense for child pornography with a zero tolerance policy.

That is not something I want governments involved in. There are already enough laws against pornography especially where children are involved. That just tells me he wants to interfere in my right to form my own opinion. That's just more of the Conservatives need to impress their version of how society is to think.

Support for our Canadian Forces
The Conservative Party will fight for our armed forces. We will ensure our armed forces are properly funded and equipped to do the difficult and dangerous work we ask of them.

I don't know or anyone who wouldn't support that, albeit Liberal or Conservative. So that really is a non-issue, issue.

Canada’s Place in the World
The Conservative Party will fight for Canada’s national interest. We will stand with our allies and international bodies against terrorism and for the basic values of freedom and democracy.

And if Harper had his way, Canadian troops would now be losing their lives in Iraq.

Canada – US Relations
The Conservative Party will fight for our primary producers in trade disputes. We will stand shoulder to shoulder with the US when we can so that we can sit eyeball to eyeball when we must.

Well isn't that wonderful? He would encourage Canada follow the lead of the States and be lead around by a ring in our nose!

Harper is never going to learn that people remember what he's says. FACT … I know of no newspapers, either with a Liberal or a Conservative bias that would dare to put things in quotations that people don't actually say.

Once a negative image has been formed, it is very difficult to change it. And it is Harper himself that is responsible for the words that came out of his mouth. So I'd just start fresh and dump Harper if you ever expect to make gains for the Conservative party.

Jeff Cosford,

"Cantor Fitzgerald leased about 9 floors in the WTC ..... was the primary dealer in Government debt."

"Espeed is owned by Cantor and is the largest electronic platform for trading in Government securities."

I'm not sure I get your point. Are you attempting to connect these tenants to the 9/11 terrorist attacks? It's unclear what, if anything you're implying. Perhaps you can just come out and say it.

By the way, for those who have been talking speculatively about various tenants at the WTC, if there were to be a connection between those tenants and the WTC being targeted on 9/11, would that somehow make a difference in the deaths of anyone who didn't work there? Like the passengers on the hijacked planes? What justifies murdering them?

Hey, the Libs are just being accountable to the electorate that placed them there...

Joey W
First off let me say that there is no amount of justifaction in the world that can condone what happened on 9/11

Second communist guy differentiates between London and 9/11 in saying that 9/11 had government targets
ie. the Pentagon. Therefore he feels more empathy
for those involved in the London attacks.

My point is that the WTC although did not have government opertions in the traditional sense that the Pentagon has. The management of Government debt is still integral to government operations. The 9/11 attack shut down securities markets for a week. I floated the information for 2 reasons first
where they attempting to attack the foundation of the American economy. As misguided and fanciful as that may have been.

Also you could argue that it was US government opertions that where being attacked because Cantor handles so much Government Debt. And is in fact an Agent of the Government. Some have said that there was no Government agency to attack at the WTC similar to the pentagon.

Ward, that moonbat you found on Cpt. Ed is indubitably an undercover Librano. He understands the right slurs to hurl. He's a broken leftist record. I recognize the language and nonlogic. His only intent is to HURT us. He's a member in excellent standing of the VLWC.

Let's all tell him, if he comes on here to say vile excrement like that, to EFF OH! I personally would like to take the red-hot iron of the words I can use to brand every damned square inch of his being!

These commies cat ever be trusted i mean they are wanting to spread the evil ways to all of america and it fact HANIO JANE once told a university of michican students that IF YOU REALY UNDERSTOOD COMMUNISM YOU WOULD HOPE YOU WOULD PRAY ON YOUR KNEES WE WILL SOMEDAY BECOME COMMUNISTS PRAY? COMMUNISM IS ATHEISTS THEY PERSICUTE CHRISTIANS

I think Mark Johnsons Lenin beard missed the memo that explained he is no longer a commie.

Sorry Dudley. But I don't think they need our help.

Stephen McAllister. I disagree with you about Kyoto. When the Conservatives finally form the government they must kill Kyoto. If they don't it will be the last time I vote for anyone in this country.

Candace. Darn. I knew those pipelines were mostly buried. Geez. I've taken pictures of them being buried. But there are several sections that are not buried for one reason or another.

Impressive article, Mr. Johnson! Seriously, I am very, very impressed!

Just imagine, you somehow managed to type that entire *article* with your head so far up your ass!

You really know your way around a keyboard!

Oh, and by the way, us Presbyterians can do without the likes of you - go haunt the UC's...You'll find them more to your liking. They also have a peyote-eater's perspective on all things material and spiritual.

And there are a lot more where he came from.

Jeff,

Thanks very much for your clarification. I understand what you are saying, but I believe that it's important to always accompany something like that idea with a clear-cut statement to the effect "regardless of what terrorists may mistakenly think, no public building or area can ever be considered a legitimate target." I just hate to see a discussion which allows speculation that Al Qaeda might have been justified in attacking the WTC. While the method used can never, ever have any legitimacy, I can conceive of the Pentagon (US Military Headquarters) being singled out by those looking to attack the US Government. But attacks on civilian targets (and presence of a government office does not make a building a government facility; that kind of logic is best suited to Monty Python movies) have got to be called what they are - terrorism, pure and simple. Not acts of war, attacks on a government, or political statements - they are murder, no less than a Jack the Ripper, Dr. Crippen, Boston Strangler, Son of Sam. etc......

TonyGuitar - send me a private email kate@katewerk.com

I don't believe this part: he says he has "a beautiful girlfriend, Kassie". This would not fit with the babe theory of political movements. The good-looking women are for freedom! The less lucky women are for anti-western things like: "I see things entirely differently. The deluded band of egocentric, paranoid terrorists that I think have made up the present and past governments of the United States of America has been launching petty, cowardly attacks on legitimate sovereign nations for decades, and 9/11 was something they had coming to them."

By legitimate sovereign nations, I suppose he means all those awful murderous dictatorships. How are they legitimate? I guess Hitler was legitimate too. And Pol Pot. And Stalin. And Kim Jong-Il. And Saddam. And the Taliban. And Castro.

I would hate to find out what a illegitimate leader was like.

Anyway - if by some chance there is a beautiful girlfriend, Kassie, all I can say is - dump him quick before he traps you within his miserable worldview!

Joey W

I believe that all the facts should be laid out. Our strength lies in our honesty. To say that there was no government presence is misleading. Albeit in this
case it maybe insignificant to the discussion.
I personally find it fasinating that there was such a significant economic presence at the terrorists target the WTC. But that should in no way be misconscruded that I am not horrified by what happened at the WTC or the Pentagon. Both were acts of despicable barbarism. Again what the terrorists
did at both the WTC and the Pentagon is nothing short of murder.

"Member of the Arab Student Association"?

*Ugh*
Oh god. I'm familiar with guys like him. I used to fight with guys like this all the time in University.

Arab Student Associations accross Canada are originaly created to simply offer aid and assistance to the Arab students. And simply ensure that they get through their academic years smoothly. From time to time they take part in festivities to promote Arab Culture. And help out Foriegn Middle Eastern students with matters like Visas, Housing and jobs. Nothing more nothing less.

WHat guys like this do (White, middle-class "progressives)" is that they join the group in hope to politicize them and integrate them into their causes. (Anti-Globalization, Anti-War, Anti-Capitalis etc). And it works, especially to gullible new immigrants, its very easy for them to convince them as they havn't been in the country for long and don't know how things work.

I was the Communications Director for the Syrian Student Association in Concordia University 3 years ago. and I quit becuase guys like this screwd evreything up for us.

I'm sure they do this with other ethnic student groups as well. Its very smart, becuase once they integrate them into their causes and have them join their protests, they can easily smear any of their critics or the protest police as "racists".

Qoute:

"Material may not be published, at the discretion of Imprint, if that material is deemed to be libelous or in contravention with Imprint's policies with reference to our code of ethics and journalistic standards."

Well that settles it then - the Opinion Editor (Johnston)has lowered the standards so should be asked to resign....

I emailed the editor thanking him for allowing Johnson to piss off so many British like myself. No reply....such bravery! Such willingness to stand up and say 'another boy did it' and run away...! How typical!

Dave T.: "I emailed the editor thanking him for allowing Johnson to piss off so many British like myself. No reply....such bravery! Such willingness to stand up and say 'another boy did it' and run away...! How typical!"

Dave, you're so right. I wouldn't myself have bothered to email the editor of that fancy pile of bogroll imploring a damn thing. I all too well understand these braindead lefties.

Earlier in this strand, someone named Mike asked to point out any errors in the article. I sent the author of the article the following email -- I didn't bother adding the obvious conclusion that thinking people draw about the opinions of people who are too ignorant to know even the basic facts behind their rants:

Sir
I wouldn't presume to comment on your views as I'm sure it would be a waste of time -- there are no more closed minds on earth that those within our academic institutions.

However, when confidently stating your views on international affairs, you should make an effort to avoid astonishing blunders of fact. You state:

"After the Madrid bombings... Spanish voters threw out an arrogant liar of a president - who sent their troops to die in Iraq - and elected a socialist who soon withdrew the troops to safety. In doing so, Spain wisely diminished its chances of provoking another attack."

Again I wouldn't presume to question your characterization of Mr Aznar (and I'm assuming you knew his name although you avoid mentioning it), but I do take issue with the statement nonetheless. First, Mr. Aznar was not the President, but the Prime Minister of Spain. Surely you know that the difference in those offices is very significant. I dare say that if Mr. Bush ever made an error like that he would be immediately labelled an idiot by the wise and knowledgeable Canadians.

But even more shocking is that you say he was thrown out. Again, do you really not know that Mr. Aznar had retired from politics and was not standing in the election? Do you in fact know or is this a lie on your part? It would be like saying Canadian voters threw out Mr. Trudeau in 1984, or Mr. Mulroney in 1993. I suppose to a sloppy academic it's largely true, but of course neither man was contesting the elections that their party lost. Neither was your arrogant liar of a President.

I do hope your knowledge of the world isn't reflective of the quality of education provided by the university.

Paul

Paul: Not to mention that Spain is a kingdom (i.e. no president at all), with Juan Carlos Alfonso Víctor María de Borbón y Borbón-Dos Siciliasas the constitutional monarch (for short Juan Carlos I).

Mark
Ottawa

Si! And hees daughter the Infanta isa hottie....

The greatest irony of this ( if it is irony) is this spewing little Bolshevick considers himself "liberal". Once again proving the commonly observed phenomena that there is nothing less liberal than a liberal. There is no Orthodoxy with more intensely inane logic: such as Steven Harper is "scarey" but people who accept civilian terror as a legitimate political statement are not.

If this is the extremist sandbox the Libranos recruit from, we better dust off out flame throwers because the next generation of Libranos won't be sociopathic criminals but totally viral psychotics...we may have to decontaminate parliment rather than just remove them from office.

The other thing that struck me was the aggravated hatred this little Jihadi-sympathizing terd displays for western governments who would stand in the way of terrorism as a political tool. People like this may be of interest to the RCMP who encourage Canadian citizens to report suspicious people and activities: here's the RCMP counter terrorist tip line 1-800-420-5805

More evidence of the brain-eating disease, liberalism. But this guy is especially far gone.

"...Mr. Aznar was not the President, but the Prime Minister of Spain. Surely you know that the difference in those offices is very significant."

The Spanish Prime Minister's title is El Presidente del Gobierno. It is not usual for a Spanish PM to be referred to even in English as President, despite that he is not a head of state.

Not UNusual, I mean.

Dave
That is true, but it is still wrong. He was not President and simply having people repeat it doesn't make it so.

WOW...I love his final sentence in his last paragraph: "What goes around comes around, I suppose". Now there's a well-thought out bit of words, don't you think? Hey Mark...dude...go take another hit from your bong and lay me out with some more of your well-reasoned and brilliant thoughts from that incredible, fertile mind of yours. What a freakin' putz.

The editor came back to me after my email!

She wants a reply to be posted as Letter to the Editor and also states that although she does not agree with him, she des not believe in censorship. Think they have realised he has dropped them in it........

Anyone with valid points to add to my letter which will cover Spain, UK, Canadian military, his strange support of Muslims and Gays at the same time, his arrogant ' clear thinking people' meaning himself and the overall tone.

Soonest please as I have to reply to the Editor. Thanks

Sorry - email as per link on my name not blog

mark johnson is a Mega-Coward.

His mother should've swallowed.

A perfect example of typical Canadian pile of disgusting ignorance. Mark must be a professor.

Pop quiz: Explain the "Dos Siciliasas" in Juan Carlos I's name. Hint: he's not a made man in Cosa Nostra.

Mark
Ottawa

"There is no Orthodoxy with more intensely inane logic: such as Steven Harper is "scarey" but people who accept civilian terror as a legitimate political statement are not."

...thus spake WL MacKenzie.

Absolutely correct, WL. The VLWC always attempts to paint all Conservative leaders as "scary". Manning, Day (Maclean's "How Scary?" cover photo) and now Harper. It's like a broken, screeching record. Paul Martin IS extremely scary, but the MSM paints him as beautiful and loving! I cannot help but be angrily contemptuous of this anencephalitic fawning over the Supreme Librano Overlord! And celebrities who embrace terrorism are declared "world's sexiest" or something as infinitely jaw-gaping. True reality, as I recall getting info from, not the MSM, naturally, but from the conservative internet information community, forget where, but Angelina Jolie is actually just as horrible as Mark Johnson, was his name? She said she wants to feck everybody, taste everybody, yet, after learning her vile views along the lines of Johnson and even worse, I couldn't bring myself to bang that queen moonbat, never mind her looking so damn hot!

Fo' fecksake!

"Pop quiz: Explain the "Dos Siciliasas" in Juan Carlos I's name. Hint: he's not a made man in Cosa Nostra."

The Kingdom of the Two Sicilies (which consisted of Sicily and Naples) was ruled by a collateral line of the House of Bourbon (hence, the House of "Bourbon-Two Siciles") until Italian unification under Victor Emmanuel of Savoy. Juan Carlos is thus descended from two seperate branches of the House of Bourbon: the main Spanish branch that was placed there by Louis XIV following the War of the Spanish Succession, and the Two Sicilies line that married in centuries later.

If I missed explaining the Carlist claims to both France and Spain, that's because it's just too complicated and anyone who claims to understand it all completely is lying. ;-) It's like what Palmerston said about Schleswig-Holstein.

Dave J: Brilliant. Have a double Jack Daniels. I forgot what Palmerson said about Schleswig-Holstein (-Lauenburg). Must re-read "Royal Flash".

Mark
Ottawa

Dave J. and Mark Collins:

Duh... that stuff all went right over my bald head, except for the Bourbon and the Jack Daniels.

Does this mean I'm a redneck? Not that there's anything wrong with that... I sure do love Gretchen Wilson. Hot babe!

Had to write him an email: The text -

Re: London attack seemed inevitable

What with recently graduating from a top US law school I have never had ill feelings about flunking out of Waterloo some 6 years ago. Hey, I just didn't like computer science. However, neither did I feel proud of it. What was done was done - I met my Waterloo. Now, for the first time ever, and thanks to your column, I am actually jubilant that "University of Waterloo" appears nowhere on my resume. Thank you so very much.

Stephen: It just means you've been reading two damn fools who like history. Smetimes it can be important. Glad you made the Bourbons and Jack, a pretty thin joke.

Just checked out Gretchen Wilson website. Redneck, no neck ("Cat on a Hot Tin Roof"), whatever--but boy is the site loud.

Mark
Ottawa

The student paper at UW has a long history of nutbars. It used to be the "Chevron" but that paper finally got itself shut down over the crap it was spewing. (They tried publishing a couple issues off-campus as recently as the mid-80's but were nothing more than a joke.)

The Imprint was more sane for a while, but the PoliSci department was always a little more "out there".

Then there's Mr.K's "buddy" Telegdi who came through the cycle of UW student politics.

Carla the editor has let me do a long Letter to the Editor for the next issue. It won't change his views as he is beyond saving probably (he is so intelligent and politically savvy you see..). But at least some people will hopefully see that he was wrong on many counts and that such muddled ill-informed and downright nasty writing is unacceptable even for a self proclaimed communist/liberal/Arabist/gay rights supporter/atheist/Christian etc. Boy is he confused......! We will see how much she cuts. Thanks to all who suggested bits.