Grewal-Murphy (Updated) from Being American in T.O.
May 23 - Oh course there's more about the attempt to bribe Grewal (Grewal says he wanted to show Grits were dirty) and the contention that Grewal sought the bribe (Grewal wouldn't take no for an answer in today's news.... [Read More]

Tracked on May 23, 2005 5:32 PM

Good one, Kate:

Let's hope each subsequent release is more incriminating than the last one.

Though I'm sure a few well placed calls to the NGP-friendly RCMP will shut that game down in a hurry. After all, for just the price of one "Musical Ride" the Libs implicated them in Adscam as well.

As long as almost none come out before the Gomery hearings are done. Let the Liberals have the limelight to hurt themselves.

relax-the libs are the gift that keeps on giving....
there will be more but how can they be made to pay?
let harper be harper the clean contrast will tell-the polls aren't catching the seismic shift going in-cambells big poll majority going in to her race was no indication of the result-keep the faith these libercrooks are done, what their criminal behaviour began the new world of smaller central gov't lower taxes distributed decision making weakened party discipline will complete-rock on stephen!

Kate, why do you have the American flag on your home page and not a maple leaf in sight...anywhere? I guess you're representing "an ordinary [Western] Canadian" wishing they could become the 51st state.

Can't speak for Kate but Right now I would do the exact same thing if I had a blog. Show support for our neighbor, friend, ally and protector after all the repeated slagging from the Canuckonian lefties. And to show a Maple Leaf flag at the moment we gained our Third World Banana Republic Membership, would hardly be something to be proud of!

I put that flag up during the height of the anti-Iraq war rhetoric, as a signal to my largely US based clientelle as to where this Canadian stood.

And still do.

I don't spew my thoughts from behind a firewall of a government salary, union contract, cost of living allowance, and fat pension plan.

My trade is dependant upon disposable income. If I had to depend upon the Canadian economy to survive, I wouldn't. There simply isn't that much out there anymore.

I am one of those people who was hurt directly, economically, by the thoughtless American hatemongering coming the mouths of Canadians and their politicians. Indeed, in the past couple of years, my gross income took about a $5K hit - not insignificant for a freelance artist.

Canadians who don't believe that ordinary American consumers are checking to see the country of origin when they choose what to buy, they are deluding themselves.

So, you bet your ass I fly an American flag on my business site. Those are the people who put food on my table.

I wonder if the reason the CPC won't release the tape, except in dribbles (edited dribbles?, or join the otthers in demanding an investigation, is that they know it will show that Grewel had gone shopping.

Thanks for the quick response, Kate. $ trumps patriotism any day!

Whatever they do, they'd better not give that tape to the RCMP- no one would ever hear of it again.

Of course, it does not take 4 hours to say no. The Liberals tried to buy his vote, just as they bought Stronach.

The Globe & Mail today pointed out, again, that any kind of such influence-peddling and bribing for government office is a criminal offence. I guess this makes Mr. Murphy, Mr. Martin and Ms. Stronach criminals (but we knew that already).

You know, "jimp" - as confusing as this notion is likely to be to you - Canadian patriotism and support for the United States of America are not mutually exclusive positions.

Before you give that a lot of thought, may I suggest you wrap your arms around the CBC and hold on tight before your head explodes?

"Does it take four hours to say No?"

All depends what the definition of No is.

Kate, why do you hate Canada so much? As the American who you seem to be so fond of used to say, Love it or leave it.

Who hates Canaduh???

What many people hate is "Liebral Canaduh", where sleaze, lies, theft, corruption, vote-buying, bribery, Mob-ties, scandal, and outright, brazen BS gets support from the sleepy sheep and another chance to steal as much as you want! Gaaaaaagggg!!!!

"Kate, why do you hate Canada so much?"

You have a quote, I presume?

TRACEY:

Don't confuse frustration and desire for a smaller, better government with anti-Canadianism. Not one person here is anti-Canada. If we were we wouldn't bother trying to fix what we see are its obvious flaws.

You're falling into the old Liberal trap wherein any criticism of the NGP superstructure (they have after all been in power for a long time, now) is conflated with being anti-Canadian.

As Kate says in her sidebar, Liberal values are not perfectly congruent with Canadian values and they are certainly not my values. They do not speak for me.

Is Harper toast? "Dump Harper" bid on the rise

http://www.canoe.ca/NewsStand/Columnists/London/Chip_Martin/2005/05/21/1049731.html

Besides, if any of us "hated" Canada, the solution is right there before us - we'd all go to the polls and vote for more socialism, more corruption, more organized crime in government, more "publication bans", more limits to speech, more decay of our military, more Indoctrination Through Daycare, more more more more...... in other words, we'd vote Liberal.

It's a system proven to work across the globe.

That should speed the process of disintegration, without question.

"$ trumps patriotism any day!"

This should mess with your head, then:

http://www.circleofconfusion.ca/

I'm one of those nasty Western Separatists that you hate so much. For the record, I've got nothing against Canada (not even Newfies, although I do like to razz them), just the asshats living in Ottawa and Toronto. If we could kick them out of Canada and keep everything else (including Quebec), that would suit me just fine.

Most Western Separatists feel a lot like Joe Clark. It's not that we hate our country, we just feel like it took off without us and we're doing our best to preserve what's left (even if it means considering becoming the 51st state). I'm a proud Canuck in the same sense that Joe is a proud 'Progressive Conservative'.

Run along now Sweetie.... Don't you have some new shoes to buy or a few envelopes of cash to count? Maybe a few more votes to buy or lies to spread in the sleepy flock???

Tracey & jimp:

If you think that Kate doesn't love Canada, then you haven't been paying much attention to her site. The amount of time she spends, trying to do her little part to make Canada a better country is a testament to that.

Showing support for the states doesn't make her anti-Canadian. Although, according to liberal logic, being a "real" Canadian means you should insult the intelligence of Americans at every possible opportunity.

Liberals push the concept of "tolerance" every chance they get, and yet if you disagree with them on any policy (be it social, economic or foreign related) you get branded as an un-Canadian redneck. Fact is, Canada is a big country, and there are a lot of different points of view. Disagree with them, fine, but don't say crap like "Love it or leave it."

Tracey,

Again, that rummer is being put out there by Sinclair Steven's, who is a total socialist, and has become a Librano supporter. He wants Harper taken out because the liberals are afraid of him.

Your quoting garbage put out by MSM. If your going to propagate stories, make sure you know the facts.

thats been covered already Tracey.

Nice of you to try hijack the thread and change the subject when Kate scores a hit.

I vote, "dump tracey"

tracey: No, Harper's not toast. It's just that the Liberals would like him to be toast. Who do you think is leading the "dump Harper" brigade?

And ditto on everyone else's comments re: hating what the Liberals have done to Canada does not mean we hate Canada.

from dictionary.com
critical thinking - the mental process of actively and skillfully conceptualizing, applying, analyzing, synthesizing, and evaluating information to reach an answer or conclusion

You may want to stretch your skills in that, tracey.

jimp:
"$ trumps patriotism any day!" i suppose you are talking about the liberals. ;))))))

as a wiser man used to say:
"patriotism is the last refuge of scoundrels".

Kate,

I suggest you use Librano$ methods to shut Tracey up -- libel chill her.

And, Tracey if you're a Liberal operative trying to screw up the comments section here like you guys did at Coyne's place, I'll make you a deal.

Each time you post I will post something

Here's my first, you go next

by Judi McLeod, Canadafreepress.com
Friday, April 22, 2005

The Canadian company that Saddam Hussein invested a million dollars in belonged to the Prime Minister of Canada, canadafreepress.com has discovered.

Cordex Petroleum Inc., launched with Saddam’s million by Prime Minister Paul Martin’s mentor Maurice Strong’s son Fred Strong, is listed among Martin’s assets to the Federal Ethics committee on November 4, 2003.

Among Martin’s Public Declaration of Declarable Assets are: "The Canada Steamship Lines Group Inc. (Montreal, Canada) 100 percent owned"; "Canada Steamship Lines Inc. (Montreal, Canada) 100 percent owned"–Cordex Petroleums Inc. (Alberta, Canada) 4.6 percent owned by the CSL Group Inc."

Kate,
Don't let jimp, or is that wimp? get to you.
Consider the intellect behind the statement. People who hide behind the flag instead of holding it high are never around when the bullets start flying. Just ask Capt Joe. He knows.

harper will not go anywhere. he is too intelligent for that. as for the "dump harper" i would dump him only if jean chretien agrees to run for the job. i am aching for a real chretien-martin contest, not that bush-league backstabbing soft coup d'etat BS that we had in 2003.

this second scenario has a higher probability of happening than the first!

Welcome back, CHOO CHOO MAN.

I was wondering where you and your well developed sense of humour had gone...

Whenever I complain about the 'current administration' or where I think we Canadians have gone wrong, I hear the comment "if you don't like it here, then leave." I'm sure the people uttering such words would not like the comparison between that and "You're either with us or against us."

I agree, Tom. But it does show you the lengths to which people will go to discourage dissent and contrary opinion.

In other words, what they are saying is that there are only two choices in modern day Canada: Quietly accept everything the Liberal corruptocracy shoves down your throat or leave the country.

How nice. ... How arrogant.

yes, I find that those complaining about the simplicity of dualist arguments often end up arguing in them.

Canada Free Press

Cover Story

Stephen Harper should step down

By Arthur Weinreb
Saturday, May 21, 2005
If ever the time was ripe to banish the Liberals from power, that time is now. This is not to say that given the makeup of Parliament the government should have fallen during the budget votes. If an election was held today, given the credible allegations of Liberal Party corruption and a government unable to function while it desperately clings to power, the Liberals should be looking to take a drubbing like they did when John Diefenbaker and Brian Mulroney came to power.

Yet the polls indicate that the Liberals and the Conservatives are running neck and neck. Depending upon the day and the poll, one party or the other is always slightly ahead.

Under the most optimistic of circumstances, Stephen Harper has not been able to convince enough Canadians that his Conservative Party of Canada is anything more than a Western-based party. Despite the deep anger in Quebec over the sponsorship scandal, the Conservatives are not poised to win any seats in that province. And since no one will ever believe that a Canada governed by the Conservatives will be as generous with Atlantic Canada as the Liberals now are, the Tories would be hard pressed to make significant gains east of Quebec.

yeah, right. DUMP TRACEY.

Let's see here. If I really hated Canada, I would do the following:
1. Spew hatred about Americans and their president, making sure they notice so that it damages our trading relationship and costs hard-working Canadians lots of money.
2. Continually vote for a federal government that insists on turning us into a socialist wasteland.
3. Continually vote for a federal government that steals millions from the public purse in order to get re-elected.
4. Continually give multi-million dollar grants away to corporate sinkholes like Bombardier so they can keep donating back to my party.
5. Educate children, starting in kindergarten (soon preschool) to believe that Canada has no real identity, other than being anti-american, multicutlural and bilingual.
6. Remove any legitimate Canadian history from schools, replacing it with "social studies", in which we learn the value of bilingualism, multiculturalism, and the UN, and why the government needs to spend millions on these things, every year.
7. Raise taxes to the point where people can't afford to have kids anymore, so the birthrate falls below replacement levels, and the country relies completely on immigration to sustain the population.
8. Create a system where as many citizens as possible are dependent on one form of government assistance or another, ensuring that they have a vested interest in maintaining the status quo, and furthering the socialist rot that elites consider "progress".
9. Fund various special interest groups, noisemakers, squeaky wheels, professional victims, and career whiners so that they can lobby the government to provide more of the same.
10. Appoint judges who feel that they, not Parliament, have the ultimate authority to govern the country, and go on molding the nation according to their own idea of what a progressive society should look like.

In short, I would support the Liberals (or their impatient little brothers & sisters in the NDP). If I truly hated Canada, I can't imagine expressing my hatred in a more effective way than to continue to support the Liberals, and the path to obilivion that they have put us on.

from http://tinyurl.com/b6gv8

"For Martin and Stronach, It's Lose-Lose
By David Frum
Posted: Thursday, May 19, 2005

ARTICLES
National Post (Canada)
Publication Date: May 19, 2005

A few days before George W. Bush's second inaugural, I received an urgent call from a friend. Belinda Stronach wanted to come to Washington to see the event. Could I get her tickets to the swearing-in and the balls afterward?

We did get the tickets--and Belinda did the rest. Her progress through Washington was glittering. She hosted a star-spangled dinner at Washington's Palm restaurant the night after the President took the oath. The Solicitor General of the United States was there, and so was Kelly from the Apprentice, Larry King and an editor from Vanity Fair, as well as important figures from the Washington legal and business worlds.

It's difficult to secure top guests on inaugural night, but Belinda did it. They were curious to meet a glamorous and wealthy woman, a close friend of Bill Clinton's who had emerged as an unexpected political star. In politics, where who you are often matters less than where you are seen to be going--and in January, 2005, Belinda Stronach seemed to be going places.

Not any more. Stronach's decision to cross the floor will be remembered as one of the most spectacular acts of political misjudgment since Joe Clark called down a leadership race upon himself in 1983. Three days ago, she was a powerful figure inside the Conservative party, the runner-up in the last leadership race and a front-runner in any race to come. She was a media darling, as left-wing dissidents in right-of-center parties always are. At the Conservative convention in Montreal, Belinda's reception was the hottest and most glamorous, as she herself was the most glamorous figure on Parliament Hill.

Now instead she sits on the Liberal bench as the head of a second-tier ministry..."

Oooh, there's always someone like Tracey and jimp.

Here I am, trying to be a good friend to Canadians (especially the much beleaguered pro-American, non-leftist sort), and these two come popping up, annoying everybody . . .

. . . and set my brain off into the fantasyland where Alberta votes to leave Canada and become the 51st state.

This is fun

Paul Martin's tainted record
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

2003-12-31

Source: Murray Dobbin
Globe and Mail

It is a story that will not -- and should not -- die. The tainted-blood scandal is tale of bureaucratic indifference, corporate greed and regulatory failure resulting in hundreds of needless deaths from AIDS and the equally preventable infection of thousands with hepatitis C. An investigation by The Kansas City Star newspaper has jolted the story back to life in North America. Ironic that the reports coincide with the coronation of Paul Martin as Liberal leader, because Mr. Martin has a connection to this story.

Here's the best part ummm Tracey.... this will make your stomach churn a bit I think.

But by accident, Information Commissioner John Reid discovered otherwise. In his 2001-2002 Annual Report, he stated: "The commissioner . . . concluded that the answers given to the requests for CDC board minutes were so bereft of helpful information that he found them to be . . . intentionally misleading." In his detailed report, he named "the most senior officials of the department" and Mr. Martin's political staffer Scott Reid, as being responsible for denying they had records when they knew this claim to be false.

You'll run out before i do. Trust me.

LOL exiled... I realized after that last post that all we're doing is adding to Kate's bandwidth bill.

btw Kate did you ever make a decision re tips vs. ads vs. I forget what the third option was?

Question for the day. If you are a millionairesse and make a big deal about how your new salary will be donated to charity, and then have it deposited in a "special" bank account, does it take a year to create said charity?

see http://tinyurl.com/7lx4o

one of those "hmmmmmm..." moments

I'll probably be starting up ads shortly. It's still not a done decision though.

On the other hand, just sorting through emails is a part time job these days.

(Someone did send a "tip" the other day, and it was most appreciated!)

How sweet it is:

The Librano$ Grovellers: Down on their knees begging Stephen Harper to "hand over the tapes", or else!!

McKinnon, (El Presidente Librano$), McLellan aka the Librano$, and ...... Doosey Dosanjh, he who tried to curry favour with Mr. Grewal, (pizza & beer bribe).

Keep them begging; release "sound bits" to conservative talk radio hosts; for example, Lowell Green, CFRA, Ottawa & others.

Ya gotta love it.

(Please advise Conservative movers/shakers of this blog.)

God Bless America.

Down with National Socialism. Down with BS.

Long live freedom and democracy.

Kate, have you applied for a Google Adsense account yet? That would bring in a few bucks a month if we help out... nudge, nudge, wink, wink.

Tracey and jimp, Kate is a good friend of the traditional shared values and friendship that defined Canada and America's relationship for over a hundred years.

She has the personal integrity to be consistent about what she believe, and both Americans and Canadians appreciate her for it. She has the courage and initiative to speak out in a country whose pop culture and climate of corruption excoriates people like her for their views.

And frankly, if any of the criticism of the USA from Canada ever had any legitimacy, it's all gone now.

For god's sake, you actually have had a made member of the Bonanno crime family as your public works minister. His friendships include so many members of the world of organized crime, he must use Sicilian stamps on his Christmas cards. He must prefix all of his addresses with "To a friend of ours." Organized racketeering has become an ordinary way of doing business in Liberal politics.

You may not favor the USA's more conservative ideology, but it's very possible your government shouldn't even exist, because of the shameful and opportunistic way Liberals manipulated the no-confidence vote in the House of Commons.

Let's face it, somebody in Canada flipped over one of the boards at the lumber yard, and now we can see all of the snakes that were really there all the time.

Under different circumstances/conditions I would be collecting the heads of them there snakes and making a necklace for all future generations.

Note, I said under different circumstances/conditions ....

Tracey and jimp(or is that gimp?)...you will not find a bigger friend of Canada and the U.S. then Kate. The only reason I can figure out for your comments is that she applies a good dose of critical and clear thinking,something you socialists abhor.I bet you both can't wait to get your offspring into PMPM's "kiddie gulags".And Tracey,where's your latest response to Choo Choo? Still waiting.

Per Ardua Ad Astra

Here's hoping tracey et al have gone to play in a Liberal sandbox.

Actually my cats' litter box needs changing. That's much cleaner than a Liberal sandbox.

Like Greg, I'm another American who admires Kate for for her courage in standing up against the "popular" opinion that many of her countrymen unfortunately share. Right or wrong, I've never faulted anybody for having the guts to make up their own mind and sticking to their guns.

Pierre Berton was once asked, by a western interviewer, how he explained the large majority of Prime Ministers coming from central Canada. He said, "If the west could ever produce someone smart enough to be Prime Minister, we'd vote him in". Kate, I'd say you're smart enough. But, and there is always a but …

Trudeau, the Socialist knew that a true Socialist Party could never come to power in Canada, so he joined the Liberals and did a fine job of Socializing that party and the country.

Manning, the Reformer said, "The west wants in" and proceeded to divide the conservatives. Would he not have been wiser to join the Libs and turn that party around from the inside? The Libs did actually adopt a lot of the Manning / Day policies to avoid being run over by the Reformers at election time.

Belinda, the Ambitious has the right idea - join the gang in power and proceed with the program from there.

Ever wonder why it is that so many people think of CPCers as "scary", but when the scary CPCer joins the Libs it's a good thing?

Harper, MacKay, et al should take their cue from B.S., join the Libs and rule happily ever after.

McMillan for P.M. (and I don't care what colour).

Whores 'R Us: for those who maintain it is "sexist" to describe a sell-out female politician as "whoring", I commend these final sentences from the American writer P.J. O'Rourke's 1991 book on the US government, "Parliament of Whores":

"Authority has always attracted the lowest elements in the human race. All through history mankind has been bullied by scum. Those who lord it over their fellows and toss commands in every direction and would boss the grass in the meadows about which way to bend in the wind are the most depraved kind of prostitutes. They will submit to any indignity, perform any vile act, do anything to achieve power. The worst off-sloughings of the planet are the ingredients of soveignty. Every government is a parliament of whores.

The trouble is, in a democracy, the whores are us."

Regards,

Mark
Ottawa

TNR the Reform party came into being because of western alienation and overall disgust at what the Mulroney gov't had done (which in hindsight is peanuts compared to what we're finding).

We (meaning the P'Oed westerners) screwed up by having Reform as a national party. Had they been specific to provincial politics, they'd be the equivalent of Parti Quebecois, and Ottawa might have been paying attention to us.

Live & learn.

I am so disgusted with the "join the Liberals” attitude. In short, the inevitability of such logic is a one party state where dissent is (forcefully?) denied. A democracy without dissent is not much of a democracy. In fact it’s a dictatorship.

The question shouldn’t be “why don’t we all join the Liberal party”, rather it should be, “Why do the Liberals have so much power when only 40% of Canadians vote for them”? Reformers have never demanded anything more than a fair seat at the table. We don’t expect to make 100% of the decisions; such is impossible in a democracy. But we would at least like to make some decisions relative to the voting support that we have. The amount of power that the liberals have relative to their voting support is intolerable. The solution is not joining the collective; rather we should be reforming the system.

Another liberal confuses the party with the country.The Liberal Party is the Mothership to many, and their sense of their own land.What can you expect from people who live on the public tit.

Dont fool yourselves...the reason why there has been mostly Central canadian PM's becase thats where the most seats are....you dont have to be from here to appeal to the voters here.

between BC, Alb and Man Sask you have 6.5 million people?

There are that many people in hours drive from king and bay ( except south that is)

Just a reality. It is changing....2 more census and you can probably get a majority government without any PQ seats.....now what will happen then?

Stop talking regions and start talking common policies and values and that will get you elected

Goodness, Kate, isn't it delicious irony the programmed Canadian patriots come out on a holiday week end that their deconstructionist mentors have obltereated of any historical/patriotic meaning? ;-)

Have a happy Victoria day and try not to get too excited over the Molson patriot's gross ignorance....they react this way because they have no national heretage to cling to save the manufactured partisan dogma of anti Americanism.

My thoughts on Grewal are mixed. The lack of wide caucus support for this besieged member is rather telling.

If anyone wants a good giggle on BS's performance in Labrador, go to cbc.ca, then pick news programs, then pick "go local", then pick NF&L, then click on "Canada Now" - it shows tonight's news.

Poor BS didn't do her homework. Again. It's covered in the first 5 minutes.*snicker*

I can't figure out the whole Grewal thing either. Although maybe everyone's focusing on Labrador right now. Who knows?

When I go on vacation, do I fly east? Of course not, I go south like everyone else. In fact, I have never been east of Saskachewan. There are too many things to see south, and CN will not cut it for me going east. Our Southern friends do not look upon our country with envy, in spit of anything Moore may believe. Americans embody the spirit of freedom like no other country in the world. Canada has forgotten what freedom is, and VOTES to live under a twisted, perverted illusion of it.

I think Kate said it all about her priorities and allegiences in her answer to my initial inquiry.

As to patriotism, I wasn't referring to flag-wawing and such but to simple respect for one's country. If one prefers the way in which another country is run, then work hard to join that country. I admit to doing this over twenty years ago, when I moved the States. I love that country and its people. During the 90's especially, it was a wonderful time. People were happy and prosperous.

Things changed dramatically in 2001, about eight months before 9/11. People changed. The media changed. CNN had to respond to Fox News and is now a pale imitation, as are the US networks, of their former selves. I have many great friends and family in the States. However, now that I am older the lure and attraction of material things has eroded and my life has become richer, I finally have found what has been haunting me for the past twenty years. Canada is a great, free country where we can do pretty much as we please. That is where I get worried about the threats to progression to more freedoms such as drug reforms and equality of the sexes, which the Conservatives have said they will halt any progress made on those freedoms.

To cherish what is on the other side of the border while attacking the foundation of this country's essential freedoms and its WONDERFUL people (even in Toronto!) without balancing that disdain with praise is a missed opportunity.

Enjoy what you have but please don't advocate curbing the best thing Canada has to offer - personal freedoms. Why not celebrate progress while advocating for the downfall of the Liberals, corrupt as they are.

You're missing a salient point though, Stephen; why is it that Quebec (with 7 1/2 million people) has 10 more seats in parliament than BC and Alberta combined (which have a combined pop. of almost 7.4 million people); Quebec has a guaranteed floor of 1/4 of the seats in parliament, and this situation is absolutely untenable, unless you believe that all Canadians are equal, but some Canadians are just a little bit more equal.

Check out this article. Answers a few questions about Martinlogic. www.quebecoislibre.org/030118-6.htm

JIMP:

I would suggest to you that Canada does not have one personal "freedom" that is not enjoyed in spades by the citizens of the United States.

In fact, we have far less personal freedom than they do.

Hey Jim: Be sure to tell western wheat farmers about their freedoms ok.

So far I don't see the US tossing property owners and farmers in jail for exercising their UN human right to free use of peoperty.

Now we have a new mantra,the West wants out!

Limp. The C.B.C seems to think that their is a problem with right-wing media-bias (RADIO1 05/22/05 10:00mst). Frightningly, I am beginning to believe that C.B.C employees are NOT living in a myopic bubble, but Rather, are aware how biased they are. Don't eevveerr compare FOX to C.B.C. One earns a rewarded profit, the other wastes taxpayer money MOUTHPIECING CRIMINALS!

Bullwinkle,

That's scary shit, but explains the new world order hidden agenda that seems to be at play in countries like France, Germany, Canada. Thus the need for huge capital from sources such as Kyoto to liberalize countries, strip away the identities, and bring them all under one common governance. That would effectively destroy ones belief in patriotism for the country, and turn it into patriotism for the party.

Hmmm .. were have we heard that before.. "The Liberal Party is Canada"...

Totally disgusting and dangerous agenda if that's there direction...

I'm with you Rob, that is a very scary proposition but sounds much like the Maurice Strong song Kate pointed out...way back when I was naive (last month I think?).

Well the one key point that puts it together when this group meets, which includes Martin/Strong/ACLU and company is:

"In addition, we have the Italian Marxist theorist – a jailed former associate of Italy's Red Brigade – Toni Negri, and Duke University Literature Professor, Michael Hardt – a former student of his – whose best-selling book Empire has been praised by the New York Times as the next big idea. Empire used Marxist concepts such as the "multitudes" (read "the masses") versus the Empire, attacking the power of the global corporations and called for a new form of "global" or transnational democracy."

The eminence grise:

Maurice Strong; Born in Manitoba, Canada.

MAURICE STRONG was named Senior Advisor to the President of the World Bank in June 1995. From December 1992 until December 1995, Mr. Strong was Chairman and Chief Executive Officer of Ontario Hydro, North America's largest utility.

Until September 1992, Mr. Strong was Secretary General of the 1992 United Nations Conference on Environment and Development (the Earth Summit) and Under-Secretary General of the United Nations. During 1985 and 1986, he served as Under-Secretary General of the United Nations and Executive Coordinator of the United Nations Office for Emergency Operations in Africa and was a member of the World Commission on Environment and Development.

Born in Canada and a resident of Toronto, Canada, Mr. Strong has longstanding ties with both the private and public sectors.

Mr. Strong served as the Secretary-General of the United Nations Conference on the Human Environment from November 1970 to December 1972, and subsequently became the first Executive Director of the United Nations Environment Programme (UNEP) in Nairobi, Kenya (January 1973-December 1975). He was then appointed President, Chairman and Chief Executive Officer of Canada's national oil company, Petro-Canada. He also has been President of Power Corporation of Canada, first President of the Canadian International Development Agency (CIDA), Chairman of the Canada Development Investment Corporation and Chairman of the Board of Governors of the International Development Research Centre (IDCR) in Canada. Mr. Strong is an advisor to the United Nations, and serves on the board of several other public service organizations. He has been a director and/or officer of a number of Canadian, U.S. and international corporations.

He has received a number of awards and honours including the Order of Canada, the Swedish Royal Order of the Polar Star, and honourary doctorates from 37 universities. He is a Fellow of the Royal Society (U.K.), the Royal Society of Canada and the Royal Architectural Society of Canada.

Mr. Strong was born 29 April 1929, and educated in Manitoba, Canada. He is married to Hanne Marstrand and has four children, a foster child and eight grandchildren

Nealenews:

BS makes the cover of Time magazine.

The MSM has become Pravda. (search).

maz2,

I was having trouble figuring out were all the money was going as it is an extreme amount of cash when you combine oil for food, all the money that seems to be unaccounted for in the canadian system, and god knows what else, until Bullwinkle posted that link.

If that's the intention, it would take a huge amount of funding. Pure speculation at this point, but it seems to fit with the events here and europe. Could this be the ultimate goal?

Hopefully, if it is, the next election would destroy the madness..... one could only hope.

P.S.: I'm having a hard time posting, Kate keeps looking at me with that look of "You better behave, or I'll kick your ass". That picture puts a psychological bearer on the comments.... intentional?

Candace,

Your right, Kate had brought it up long ago. Believe it or not, the Oil for Food scandal pointed the spotlight on him, even though there was a flicker before.

This, as speculated before, may be the reason for so much anti-American sentiment, specifically targeted at President Bush. He messed up there plans, and there pissed. When the Oil for Food pipeline went down, it took away a source of income funding all this, and he also opted out of Kyoto, which would have cost the US 350 billion dollars.

Being that these guys semi control the media, they immediately launched an anti-Bush, anti-America campaign, which continues to this day.

To all Americans that read Bulwinkles link, you might want to bring it to your people for investigation along with this link that ties Strong/Martin/Cordex Petroleum to all that's been going on:
http://acepilots.com/unscam/
Bulwinkles:
www.quebecoislibre.org/030118-6.htm

Off topic, but you have to see this:

http://strongworld.blogspot.com/2005/05/royal-commonwealth-society-of-toronto.html

Letters to the Governor-General, local editor, and the Royal Commonwealth Society are in order.

Meanwhile in Germany, the Green aka, Communist regime is toppling:

Germany's 'iron lady' to take on Schröder.

The Scotsman,

the link "quebeclibre" says Professional Bureaucracy will replace Democracy. Sound familiar?

strongworld.blogspot.com

Dynamite. Go.

Follow the money, indeed.

G-G is apolitical, no? No.

Treachery and treason both begin with the letter T.

Holy crap OttawaCon

I am simultaneously shocked, and yet not surprised.

OttawaCon,

Soon were going to have to ask who's not involved in these scandals.... :-(

The WHOIS clearly shows "The Royal Commonwealth Society of Toronto Foundation"

I gotta go to bed. I'm never buy a Time magazine again. What else do they own so I don't spend money there either. I guess they'd have put Benedict Arnold on the cover had they been in business then.

I've just bought an online subscription to the Economist - time to get an "outside looking in" point of view - this week just a shorty on BS's move (their cut-off came before the vote in HoC), but promising a bigger piece on the Cdn scene coming up. Should be good (i.e. good & depressing).

happy long weekend.

SDC, there's another representation situation, that in the current context is of critical importance, that shouldn't be overlooked. Prince Edward Island, with a population barely over 100,000, has four MPs. On a strict rep-by-pop, it would only be entitled to one. In a regular majority situation, that anti-democratic quirk has little impact on things. Last week it made all the difference. All four MPs are Liberal; that's three more votes than the Liberals should otherwise have been entitled to if Parliament were strictly rep-by-pop. The voting result if PEI's representation were as it should be is an exercise left to the reader.

Yet another reason we need Senate reform to an elected rep-by-province (or at least rep-by-region) setup, so we can abolish this foolish mix-and-match game in the House that leads to skewed results like last week.

Great point, Ian.

But I think it takes at least four MPs to shovel all the taxpayers money off the back of the Liberal truck in that province.

There is a forensic economics researcher who has done some remarkable tracking on 'where the money went' and what is in store for us if we keep the present gov't in charge: http://www.davidhawkinsresearch.com/source/cafe-002-2005.html
I have no idea why Canadians have been in the dark so long. Why didn't we connect the dots long ago? When anyone suggests that the truth should be told are tarred and feathered as anti Canada. How can truth be treason?