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Tracked on May 27, 2005 11:19 PM

"When asked for reaction, Liberal members present at the bash responded stiffly."

We stand on guard for thee, indeed.

They NEED to have a good time. The don't last forever

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Nothing New
Just another woman in a mans game
clutching at straws

They responded "stiffly" when asked for reaction to not having an election, or to the table dancing?

They had no choice, neither of these moonbats were granted there wings yet.

Funeral would be more apt...Im thinking these guys are going down next election...call the grave diggers...there epithet, Kate said no more cussing.

Not too bad Kate:

But at this exact moment of time my Saturday Belinda
satire is currently leading you 14 to 6.

Belbimbo Strumpet is still showing the same class that got her to the peak of success in the CPC. With any luck she may be able to sleep her way to the leadership of the Social credit Party.

LOL! How incredibly tacky - too bad a photo didn't come with the article.

We are better off without her. Apparently the LPC is shipping her off to Labrador right after Mr. Scary leaves. This is either a brilliant plan OR a test run in what they perceive to be a locked-in seat. Should be interesting to watch. Unfortunately, coverage of the maritimes is even worse than coverage for the west - I'm not having much luck finding anything. Suggestions, anyone?

Conservatives should be embarrassed that BS made it as far as she did in the CPC.
Can anyone tell me what the substance of her political, social or fiscal policies were (are)?
Were they obviously Conservative?
Can Conservatives recognize someone who stands for what they believe in? Or did they fall for her because she is photogenic?

'photogenic'.

Is that a code word for well endued?

Kate;

For the good of our country I would like thru a third party to discuss
The possibility of a tone down of opinions of Canadians that is being posted
On your blog..

If we can get a turn around of the damaging comments that are hurting
The Liberal Party of Canada . We can then have room for more discussion

That way we can all save face . Let me assure you principles are at stake.

It is now possible thru a third party with negotisation room to be a Senator
Or ambassador to Japan or where you would like.

You can even be the caption of a big boat . That of course will require a
Move out of Canada so we do not have to pay tax..

Taxes are paid only by people that do not know how too file .

TM

Just kidding Kate
Love your Blog.

Pm

PS

I think Peter looks scary in rubber boots . That is the hidden agenda . the PC are going
To issue rubber boots to all Western Canadians so they can chase sheep.
Oops that is now the plan of Liberal Party. Do not tell
Belinda.

trauma alert. AC site - comments suspended.

on every blog I clicked.

This isn't funny anymore.

noticed that too, but I think it has to do with some of the Clark commentary. Awful touchy stuff, and I don't blame AC if he's deleting some of it.

All the comments have been suspended at Coyne's blog - vanished into the ether.

Lemme get this straight: every news organization in the country reports on the Grewal tape (hell, even Mike Duffy identified Murphy on that tape, and on national TV), but it is Coyne that is getting sued. And not over what he wrote on his blog (all that is still there).

wtf

I disagree, Candace. This was never funny.

I still don't see AC being shut down over this threat. I think the lawsuit threat is a shot across the bow at Asper. We'll see if he alters course. Posts had been deleted before being suspended altogether. I'm not a lawyer, but some of the Clark commentary strayed into actionable territory. My 2 coppers.

Then again Ed, I thought Miriam Bedard was off her head a year ago. Absolutely nothing would surprise me now.

A. Cooper: I don't mind if he is deleting stuff that he personally finds objectionable; hell, he has edited a part out of one of my comments when I crossed a line a few weeks ago. No problem, it's his swimming pool and I don't expect him to let anyone pee in it (this is the first I have mentioned it). However, for all the comments to be shut down is very odd indeed. I see that he has had a couple of posts with over 1000 comments in the last week; perhaps he needs to go over all of them to make sure that he isn't being sued by Tim Murphy over a comment in his blog.

Dammit, where's my tinfoil hat?

Ed
http://robot_guy.blogspot.com

Oh great, I go see a movie and the world goes to hell. What Clark commentary?

Who is suing AC?

AC is being sued by Tim Murphy, the Prime Minister's Chief of Staff (aka the guy on the Grewal tape).

Freedom of the Press has now been killed.

Dead is Freedom of the Press.

Killed by the junta now controlling Canada.

Blogs are next.

Canada is now in the grip of tyranny.

Canadian blogs may be shut down, but will they also shut down the internet in Canada?

You couldn't make it up, could you.

It's not even a joke. It's a disgrace; a tragedy.

she is taking the same act to the LPC that she did in the CPC. In the CPC it was a breath of fresh air...given its image...I dont think it will play as well for her in the LPC.

The act, when done twice, begins to wear thin. This is unless you believe it is absolutely genuine. Which if this is who she is, unvarnished, then other questions would be raised. Because she'll be doing this in a few years as well.

10 reasons to hate Belinda Strobach

10. She proved that everyone has its price, and it's her fault we're still stuck with Jean Lapierre in Quebec.
09. She made the demonstration that politicians cannot be trusted, and it's her fault we're still stuck with Jean Lapierre in Quebec.
08. She strengthened our belief of what we think about Ontarian women, and it's her fault we're still stuck with Jean Lapierre in Quebec.
07. She reminded us that even an idiot can make a grown man cry, and it's her fault we're still stuck with Jean Lapierre in Quebec.
06. She will appear in the dictionary as an example for the expression "double-crosser", and it's her fault we're still stuck with Jean Lapierre in Quebec.
05. She cuckolded more than 10 million Canadians in one single move, and it's her fault we're still stuck with Jean Lapierre in Quebec.
04. She is the living proof that all blondes are beyond hope, and it's her fault we're still stuck with Jean Lapierre in Quebec.
03. She confirmed that, sometimes, a great body and a small brain go together, and it's her fault we're still stuck with Jean Lapierre in Quebec.
02. She was the first blond scoundrel to get a standing ovation at the House of Commons, and it's her fault we're still stuck with Jean Lapierre in Quebec.
01. She is called Belinda Stronach, she is a Liberal, and it's her fault we're still stuck with Jean Lapierre in Quebec.

Re AC...the clark stuff got out of hand when I last saw it. I am sure he will properly admonish those who posted....

As far as questions of if he is liable....I would think it would only be if he did nothing about them...he doesnt pre edit.

Neither does Kate. But Kate you would know the rules you need to operate a blog under...any insight?

Oh my God what Clark are you people talking about?

Rod,

I think if you had not read it it is not worth producing on this site...out of respect for our host, one host has become disgusted enough with it.

I would leave it alone unless Kate opens a thread on it. IMHO

Joe who?

Did someone watching this dance of the material girl tell Belinda her "Freudian slip" was showing?

Nawwwww guess not, can't expect a room full of kleptocrats to seize the Socratic irony in the celestial truth of that moment.....souless beings miss a lot....but focus on materialism will do that....pehaps the stiff looks were from to many stiff drinks.

The comments on Coyne's site seem to be up again except those on the Smoking Tape posts. Some of us are rallying around Coyne, and whatever Clark commentary you're referring to it seems unlikely that comments are Coyne's site are being targeted considering some comments I've read at many other sites.

Damned time zones. Candace left a comment on my site at 3 a.m. EST and an Ottawa blogger and I are trying to rally around Coyne but this being the Victoria Day weekend and all it's uphill work.

Wake up, Kate! (Um, I mean that literally. See previous paragraph.) We're way beyond "Three wrongs" -- the stakes have been raised and we need the cavalary.

This blog downed previously by Liberal tyranny:

http://www.paulmartintime.ca

Please verify?

Boy did you cream me with your Belinda satire versus
my Belinda satire.

The last time I really took Count notice, (eighth
comment above), I had you on the ropes with a 14 to
6 lead. Now I see it was only the old
"rope a dope" trick you were using.
Now I find to my chagrin, that at this moment,
I am on the losing end of the scorecard 36 to 14.

Come on folks,
The Clark comments were no more bizarre than what has been written on many Blogs about BS. Some newbie guy posted comments about a book on Clark.

All comment sections were suspended by AC. I wasn't lurking at the end but I'm certain my comment about Clark becoming the next Governor-General was not cause for the sudden closing. Unless....

Is it just me but it seems chillier this spring?

maz2 - Verified. Also, Blogs Canada was hit due to similarities in design with official Candian government sites. PolSpy took the lead in that defense.

I don't think it would be considered out of place here for someone to explain to us late sleepers what this Clark thing is about. Who said what?? A hint even?? Please.

This is a suggestion only to those posting as guests here. I admit I was speculating AC may have shut down comments because of the Clark stuff...I COULD BE WRONG...however he has in the past taken the group to task for comments that were in that realm, so I am GUESSING based on past history.

Given that it is a possibility, and that the comments were generated NOT about an existing book, but one that MAY be published...and that the comments were, i think it is fair to say, personal in nature with a healthy dose of conspiracy (a cabal of Alberta Conservatives operating in fear of a witchhunt)that is unproveable of undisputable when there is no evidence to challenge. In the intersts of fairness, mostly to the Host, I suggest we wait till the host rules on this.

In the mean time for those curious cats I would suggest that you ensure your emails are correct in your comments. Nothing prevents others from emailing you with private messages summarizing what they read.

I just think it is fair to both the party that was being discussed, and most importantly to the host of the blog. No need to break into her liquor cabinet unless she gives us some form of permission....especially while she sleeps....

Once again just my humble opinion.

"The comments on Coyne's site seem to be up again except those on the Smoking Tape posts."

Are you sure, folks? I tried a few momemnts ago and got nothing. Andrew seems like a nice guy. Why would he kill such a vibrant, well attended site and not post an explanation?

He could be enjoying the wonderful weather and not want things to get out of hand on either front (smoking tape or the other stuff while he cannot supervise)....Occums Razor, all things being equal the simplest explaination is the right one.

(Obligatory Kate content...it is her blog....) For example why hasnt Kate responded, is she being muzzled by the Jackboots of Internet Nazi's...or is she sleeping in?

...unless one of Asper's lawyers said "Kill it until we've had the chance to go over it."

Whatever has happened, as Candace says it's not funny. I can only hope that AC is preparing a rules of engagement post and will simply read everyone the riot act vis-a-vis making nasty comments.

The thought that we can't sit around in a cyber living room kicking around passing thoughts on topics both random and specific is a little worrisome. Admittedly some are silly (a few of mine included), some are excellent; but most are good.

Has the long arm of the law (yes, the same law that sees nothing wrong with anything the Libs have done, ever) reached out to squelch or sanction our thoughts as well?

Hi STEPHEN:

"Occums Razor, all things being equal the simplest explaination is the right one."

Actually, given what we know about certain people in the country, AC's history of inflammatory columns and present lack of correspondence on this matter, the simplest explanation may be that he had "an accident".

Let's hope that's just a bad joke on my part.

clearthinker,
I have read far worse conspiracy stuff on liberal blogs. The Clark stuff was weird and funny.

The fact that someone in the PMO is threatening legal action against AC confirms my belief that our justice system and administrative tribunals are being used to suppress rights and freedoms.

Judicial appointments based on political alignment? I damn well know that it is true.

OK, OK. I was kidding, folks! Just kidding. (At least I think I was...)

Clearthinker,

If it is the Murphy stuff I am Outraged. I didnt see anything in those comments that went over the line...in that it was discussing publically available information.

The question would then be whose legal resources would Murphy be using. If they are those of the Federal Government then it is even more offensive. At best he could use Liberal Party of Canada resources and SHOULD use his own personal resources. Anything other than that looks like an abuse of power and position.

Now if the argument went that it was because he was on non personal business then it is the Liberal party he could use, because this was about sustaining a particular party in government.

If it was the other stuff...well I have already made my opinion known...

For the country's sake, lets hope that the reason is the latter and not one of a powerful government official using the legal system to protect himself from journalistic scrutiny and/or opinion. It goes with the Territory Tim, thats why they pay you the big bucks.

ANSELM:

Hi, I missed all of the Clark stuff except for a few comments at the very beginning.

Weird and funny seems like an appropriate way to describe them.

But if Andrew's under pressure from either Asper or Martin's attack dog lawyers, why would he leave the post itself and the links to all the Grewal stuff intact?

Right on, STEPHEN.

Abuse of position and power comes naturally to these jerks. After all, they have the best lawyers our money can buy -- and I do mean buy -- at their disposal.

If it all works out for Timmy, I sense a few new judgeships coming on...

Is there a link anywhere about AC being sued? Just wondering how people know, I havent seen anything except these comments.

Unlike the guys in Mission Impossible, if caught in the act Martin will not disavow any knowledge of their existence. He will however, use our money to pay their legal bills.

Which brings up a pet peeve of mine from way back. I believe that when a politician or political operative has been caught and charged they should pay ALL legal bills if convicted. Unlike Mr. Blake/Baretta, if you do the crime you do the time.

I learned about it on AC's post, SJ. Not sure if it's anywhere else. Somebody here will know...

Coyne suspended all comments. I didn't read the last 50 comments where the Clark conspiracy was being discussed. We'll have to ask the infamous BrianW. Brian had been warned before by Coyne, so it is possible.

The RCMP is muzzled; the judiciary is in the pocket of the Liberal/Martin regime; Freedom of the Press is dead.

The justice system has been subverted. Corruption is rampant in Canada.

Where is AC Coyne? Where is Small Dead Animals?

Fear prevails.

Tyranny is alive and well in Canada. Tyranny reigns.

Do we, or do we not, have freedom of speech in Canada?
Do we have the right, and the power, to criticize and analyze? That includes commentary on blogs.
What am I missing?

MAZ2 et al:

Maybe we should all move to communist China or North Korea, I hear it's less repressive over there...

"Mr. Murphy has retained legal counsel and will be pursuing a libel action against Andrew Coyne of the National Post, and is also considering a potential claim against Gilles Duceppe."

http://tinyurl.com/86btz

This is the only reference I found. Commentors on ACs blog did not mention the source (unless I missed that one comment).

ET:

They've already started to crack down on blogs in BC during elections. Check this out:

www.darrenbarefoot.com/archives/002643.html

Just an extension of the Liberals infamous muzzling of third party advertising during elections. Wouldn't do to have the riff raff expressing their opinion, would it?

The Libs would then have to steal more taxpayer money to counter it. As PM would say: "Clearly, it's all very, very messy."

I guess the operative words are " ... will be pursuing..."

I'm not a lawyer, is this then just a threat?

Clark as a GG would be the last straw for the west....never has there been a more universally hated politician....for his sell out of the west and his sellout of western conservatives.

Clearthinker, the advantage of announcing in future tense is the potential collateral damage that can be done - sabre rattling to silence all other dissent.

Things are much worse than I thought.

On a positive note, the Liberals now have Belinda. I can think of no better leader for the Liberal Party than her.

Any good lawyer avoids court like the plague...so yes you start by pulling back your coat and revealing your "piece" so the other guy knows your packing.

Yes Mr Murphy just pulled back his coat...., he may have only patted his coat and said "you may want to rethink you words, coyne"

So yes first step is threaten....the next step would be a letter from his lawyer issuing a complaint and threatening t file claim should his issues not be addressed....Only after that would he file suit.

What a distraction...what a mistake...if AC could handle the hassle and could handle the fees then I would call their bluff...the bigger threat is the fees your own lawyers charge you. Hence why Mr Murphy should be paying out of his own poscket OR the Liberal Party should pay...of course if its the latter I am sure some lawyer would volunteer and would be paid with a judgeship down the road.....insidious....

Stephen, don't you think that a Party so determined to cling to power would have ensured long ago that the public purse is available for legal fees? I have no specific knowledge thereof, but it will be no surprise to me to learn that our money could be used to harass a dissenting journalist that has been loudly defending our freedom, and our democracy.

Unable to read the partying gliberal link without registering with Toronto Star. Considering that the last time they left a freebie newspaper on my doorstep, I called them and told them to come back and get it, or I would stuff it up their,( a place where the sun don't shine). Too bad- information is POWER, and it don't really matter where you get that.

Shaken:

See the earlier posts herein, which speak of exactly that.

I for one, would donate to AC's defense fund if he required one. It's passing strange though, that nothing has been recently forthcoming from a man who knows that we follow his columns religiously and whose site traffic count has hit the stratosphere in this past week.

On another note, I was surfing this am and came across an excellent article by a lifelong liberal democrat in San Francisco who has finally seen the light. I realize it has more of a US context, but the underlying reasons for his "defection" ring all too true for those of us here in Canuckistan. Check it out if you have time:

http://tinyurl.com/dnb6j

There is a reason why we have parliaments and courts...The original reason was to protect individuals from the omnipotent and coercive power of the state. The state acts in the name of all, and by its very nature holds the ultimate trump cards, removal of freedom (i.e. jail)

This was never to be for the protection of the powerful and the elite but the other way around. Up has become down in this country. It must stop.

The state acts in all of our names hence it must be deliberative and must follow process, how much history has been made and much blood has been shed for this very small but very important point?

My last missle is reserved for the Globe and Mail. Should Mr. Coyne be under threat then where is the great Globe and Mail and its wonderful Masthead that it so proudly declares. "The subject who is truly loyal to the Cheif Magistrate will neither advise nor submit to arbitrary measures" - Junius

Time to live up to the your words your predecessors did Mr Greenspon....

As I said earlier, I hope Andrew didn't have an "accident" starting his car, like our friend Mr. Morselli...

So allegedly Moreselli has said he has info that doesnt involve the Lib party....who is the target

(old PC's (mr Roy), the PQ?, the current CPC's)

And FINALLY, we are getting Kroll Lindquist this week. All early reports are that it is worth waiting for...finally some FACTS and not various charges between one hack and another.

None of this has anything to do with the Belinda thread but looking forward to the news later this week. Of course it will come out AFTER the budhget vote and after the Newfoudland by election....oops almost put my tin foil hat on there for a second :->

The threat of a lawsuit was in the Globe and Mail here which I located at Ed Minchau's blog (Robot Guy) and, as the Globe report is dated Saturday, I doubt the comments are at issue but like you all, I'm only speculating here.

Don't worry, Stephen. Paul Martin has made it very, very, clear that ALL money stolen by the Liberal party will be paid back to the taxpayers.

You believe him, don't you?

I think what he meant was "all money we have actually been caught stealing" will be paid back.

As for the other 98%, what the taxpayer suckers don't know can't hurt them, right?

Jesus. I can't even sleep to 8am in anymore. (SDA is hosted in the US, so the timestamp of posts is actually 2 hours later than when I actually write them here - ie - if I post at midnight, it shows at 2am...).

As you see, I've now got a post up.

Who knows, Stephen. Maybe Morselli's going to finally tie Frank Sinatra to the mob.

I can't see what else he can say that would hurt the CPC. Old tory stuff is invalid, maybe the PQ or Bloc...

Maybe Gomery's got skeletons!

Out of curiosity, what was the "Clark" thread about? I don't follow all the comments here, much less at Andrews!

check your email

Belinda Stronach left a 300,000 dollar tab when she walked across the floor to the Liars and crooks and they are crooks.She has to be taken to court to force her to pay her tab.

I have no idea, Kate. My daughter had 6 of her teenage friends over for a birthday party and I missed it all.

Must have been bad, though.

It sounds like it was awful, cause Coyne couldn't stand it. I don't blame him from his description:

I have suspended the comments, indefinitely. I know that's why most of you come here, and that this will mean a sharp decline in readership. But as the numbers have grown, the quality has declined. The comments have frankly gone to seed, overrun with western separatists, Bilderberg conspiracy theorists and various other cranks. Last night I spent several hours weeding out a quite disgusting thread speculating on the sexual preferences of various politicians, and the secret gay network that had supposedly infiltrated the Canadian government, and I have no wish to ever soil my hands that way again.

I don't like to be in the censorship business, or picking and choosing which comments to allow and which to reject, and I don't have the time to monitor hundreds of comments every day. I hesitated to do this, particularly during the momentous events of the last few weeks, not least because the best of the comments are far superior to anything I might post. But they have been drowned out by all the other crap -- low-brow, insult-filled, intolerant of opposing views, and unspeakably tedious. I have no desire for this site to serve as a clubhouse for hard-right wackos, usually anonymous, with way too much time on their hands. Nor can I allow them to obscure the site's vital mission and cause: personal vanity and self-promotion. I spend enough money underwriting my own incoherent ramblings without subsidizing others'.

I may bring the comments back, or I may not, but if so it will be on a completely different basis. I'll let you know.

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I actually don't think Andrew removed his comments function because of a threatened law suit. I was following the comments late last night, and between the Joe Clark stuff and the back-and-forth monotony of a battle between a bunch of Conservatives and a Liberal named Shane, it was out of control and impossible to enjoy. I believe Andrew was disgusted not necessarily with the content of the Clark thread, but with the fact that his normally highbrow site was invaded and polluted by a few juvenile semi-literate meatheads. A thread with over 1,000 comments? That's out of control, indeed. I don't think we need to lay this at the feet of the PMO. I don't think AC would be intimidated that easily.

juvenile semi-literate meatheads.
Are we talking trailer park trash here, Jerry Springer material, the great unwashed canadian public,they shouldnt be allowed to vote they dont know anything.
Canada should be run by academic intelluctual,social scientists, political scientists,lawyers-lots of lawyers,only highly educated professors of what ever bullshit they want to call it.More Adrianne Clarksons,Joe Clarks/Charlottetown Accord(theres an example of what the elite can bring you)Thank God for the great unwashed canadian public.