I would like to report that I was one of those few wise owls who knew, right from the start, that the story didn’t add up. But I wasn’t. Media figures, government officials, and First Nations leaders all seemed certain that these were indeed actual graves that had been discovered — and not just any graves, but graves of murdered children.
During the height of the ensuing social panic, in late May and early June 2021, mainstream media sources even repeated urban legends about babies thrown into furnaces and clandestine midnight burials. Surely, I thought, all of these public figures wouldn’t embrace such claims if real proof weren’t about to be sprung from the soil. After all, the GPR data indicated exactly where the remains of these supposedly murdered children were lying. All that was required was a forensic examination, something one might expect to occur within weeks, perhaps even days.
Again, we can end this all by digging up those sites and recovering those bodies.
Why are we waiting for Big Aboriginal’s permission?
Yeppers. You want a single cent from the Feds? Shovels hit the ground. No? FOAD.
And who has the courage to demand it?
No one in the House of Commons.
If 215 children were murdered and buried in unmarked graves then why isn’t there an RCMP investigation into this?
Shouldn’t every politician be standing up and screaming for an investigation into these murders?
Could it be racism by the RCMP?
And racism by all those politicians?
Let the games begin so to speak.
There is precedence for a bunch of people supposedly murdered and buried in unmarked graves, where authorities won’t allow for any disagreement, and where no one is allowed to independently investigate the matter. And where monuments are built, and for which an entire nation is slurred.
While other people definitely murdered and buried in unmarked graves are mostly unknown despite happening around the same time and in similar numbers.
So this is nothing new.
There are people who will never allow for facts to get in the way of the narrative.
RC priest Father Mcguire appealing to the Dept.Indian Affairs in 1925 to increase enrolment at the Kamloops
“Indian school” from 120 students to 150 as parents were “clamouring” to have their children enrolled.
Weird huh?
https://twitter.com/JimMcMurtry01/status/1642874042964377600?cxt=HHwWgIDQ2ZvP1MwtAAAA
Not surprising. The residential schools were perhaps the only escape from family abuse, alcoholism and chronic disease, malnourishment and filth. The pressure for more residential school spaces was a direct consequence of the fact that the modern welfare state did not extend to the First Nations reservations and treaty lands.
Note that this article was published in the UK. Canada’s media outlets wouldn’t touch this subject.
Start digging, it’s been two years, prove that they are actually graves. Otherwise stop calling them graves.
Indians have a hundred words for free money.
After all, the GPR data indicated
…exactly nothing, which is why we should never listen to journalists on any topic whatsoever.
I would like to report that I was one of those few wise owls who knew, right from the start, that the story didn’t add up
Yes, well. I was. Not because I was particularly wise or smart or knowledgeable, but because I used a GPR rig exactly once and so I had some kind of idea of what GPR scans look like.
Media figures, government officials, and First Nations leaders all seemed certain
Maybe if you’d asked anyone who’d ever used a GPR rig about this you wouldn’t be writing this humiliating apology, you Muppet.
GPR scans are a Rorschach test used to identify professional activists and their supporters in the media and politics.
I’d assume that anyone who was qualified to run a GPR rig would know not to speak up if they ever wanted to work in Canada again…
There’s only one way to put this issue to rest:
https://www.deere.ca/en/loaders/backhoes/710l-backhoe/
Anything else is wilful virtue signalling and a desire to keep the Indian Affairs midnight flyer gravy train chugging along.
Status cymbols.
No wonder they clash!
Meh. Conservatives like to jail people who question the WW2 Jewish genocide.
I don’t like to brag, but I was immediately skeptical of the claims of “mass graves”.
Why? Because I’m a geophysicist, and I know the limitations of ground-penetrating radar. It doesn’t show images of bodies. It shows where there are discontinuities in the subsurface — full stop.
Such discontinuities can only suggest where one might dig for a grave. This is what a typical GPR looks like:
https://images.squarespace-cdn.com/content/v1/5a80e1f08c56a8a9e8e482ee/1595878076031-RB1I1UGD2629UAKHKXXA/gpr.png?format=1500w
In this particular section (which probably has nothing to do with graves), those upside down hyperbolas are “anomalies”, or points of interest.
Further, I have yet to see the GPR sections from the Kamloops residential school. Why the secrecy? If these investigators are sincere, there’s not a reason in the world to release the images.
“I don’t like to brag, but I was immediately skeptical of the claims of “mass graves”.”
Me too, but only because I was already aware that the graveyard there *predated* the school.
(and also, a “mass grave” is a big hole or trench callously filled with random bodies…these are just “unmarked” graves of the regular kind)
Kay thought the sun shone out of Trudeau’s arse when he “first arrived”.
That’s an auto-DQ from the earth.
Time to hang yourself, Jon.
I thought Dear Leader already declared a new national holiday called Truth and Reconciliation Day.
Although I despise that dumb, treasonous twit, I also think this day should be kept a holiday. A day for us Canadians to reflect on how our “White Man’s Burden” to bring savages into the light of civilization has gone awry, and how easily it is to bite the hand that feeds you.
The Haida and other Pacific Indians, after all, kept slaves, long before whitey came. They sacrificed their lives at their potlatches along with food, shields, weapons, tools and other such possessions, to prove to the rest that they had the prowess to simply procure more of them. (This was the criterion for being chief… he who destroys the most…). So much for them being so much in touch with nature that they wasted not, as if they were in the garden before the fall and the whiteman was the serpent.
In my northern BC town, I heard tales from the old-timers about how in the 1940’s, Indians weren’t allowed to buy alcohol from the liquor store, since it was widely acknowledged Indians had bad tolerance to the magical firewater. Indeed, was not Ft. Whoop-up in Lethbridge created first as a way to smuggle booze to Indians in the USA who were forbidden from booze, and then later by the NWMP, to stop such trade?
Am I stupid, or did I know instinctively in my youth to avoid that part of Main St. which housed the Indian’s pub, where drunks screamed “whiteboy” slurs at 8 to 10 year olds, threatening them with violence or worse. We knew to avoid them. We knew who started most of the fights at the gravel pit parties in our adolescence. We know the reserves are cesspools of filth, with lakes and river estuaries littered with trash, barrels of toxic chemicals, and young children’s underwear. Yes, in the north we avoid those places because they are a stain.
As a fifty two year old, I understand the folly of trying to combine two cultures. White man’s money plus Indian’s potlatch, means giving the money to the chief who decides where the money shall go (um… to his relatives first). Thus the chief drives a new Chevy every year while living in a luxury home, as does his family, while the reserve village is living in putrid squalor, burning their cupboard doors for firewood… and the solution is always: MORE MONEY FROM WHITEY! (This money, again, is not part of their culture, but ours!).
Screw ’em all.
But let’s keep this holiday fearless leader has given us, to reflect.
Precisely.
I lived the same youth/adolescence.
No DIG no Proof. .
A Canadian site that looks at the myth of supposed genocide and residential schools. I found it instructional.
https://irsrg.ca/
The Trudeau government and the indigenous do not want these so-called “graves” dug up, because that would put waste to their narrative. It’s all a huge scam that is unquestioned by the sheep who only get their news from the Liberal bought and paid for media. I see many commenters here are knowledgeable about Ground Penetrating Radar, and what it can and cannot detect. I did read in one of the many articles declaring these found “gravesites” that the GPR testing was done by SNC Lavalin. Might there be a connection there?
Another manufactured story is “The Scoop”. I was around when the so called scoop happened. Social Services were begging people to adopt these children. They had already been taken away from their parents for various causes, terrible parenting, abuse, etc. Several of my friends did adopt these children and most of these adoptions did not turn out well. So the indigenous were paid because they were brought up in safe, secure homes, with all their needs supplied. But apparently being brought up in a white home was supposedly bad, much worse than being brought up by unstable parents.
They wanted to believe
And count me as one of the “No One in Canada” who knew the story belonged more in the national enquirer than in the national newspapers of canada.
I ain’t going back to Picton’s farm no more.
Must protect the sacred narrative..
What is the narrative?
So a media git,finally admits that the media are gullible idiots…at best.
The Canadian Government funded media is a perfect example of that great Canadian Myth..
They are an NGO..
A Non Government Organization..fully funded with tax dollars..
Almost as truthful as the great Canadian Charter of Rights and Freedoms…
As a taxpayer who did not believe the lie for one instant,I have been mocking the Magic Aboriginal Ground Penetrating Radar from day one..
What a technology,if only we could market it..
For such a tool would make treasure hunting into treasure finding and would be a break through technology in so many fields..any that require knowing ,what lies below..
AGPR..so wonderful it can tell you the age,race and cause of death..of the imaged..
Oh right,you heard it on CBC,so not a word of truth in it..
Never Mind.
And yet there will be no digging up bones because the last thing those invested in this “genocide” want is facts. Instead of wanting the truth there would be intense pressure not to disinter “the evidence” out of respect to the poor murdered children.
No Mr Kay, they weren’t taught English, French and job skills. They were kept in the residential schools and discharged when they were 16. Most were discharged with grade 7 or grade 8 level if even that. There was never any high school for these kids. The boys were used as labor looking after the barns and cows, the girls were put in domestic service. And after being discharged, one had to get a pass from the Indian Agent in order to step off the reserve. One couldn’t even buy gas unless you possessed a ticket from the Agent. This was the reality until the ‘pass system’ was done away with in the 1940s and it covered every native person in Canada at the time.
And as Mr. Kay pointed out it wasn’t the natives that claimed all those dead bodies when the story initially broke but the propaganda pushing bought and paid for lame stream media and they ran with it because they don’t investigate anymore, they only parrot the government point of view. Trudeau bent the knee for one reason only and that was for votes.
1930 grade 8>2023 grade 12
Education wasn’t a job ticket back then, not everyone needed it. And it was hard, HS was not for everyone, university was for the few who really excelled.
It’s hard to judge exact equivalency, but the 1880s HS entrence tests far exceeded what is expected for most modern university bachelor’s degrees. I’d wager a 1930s HS degree means more than a 2023 uni degree, including all fluff masters degrees and quite a lot of ‘hard’ ones.
Xena – you are talking about the times when Grade 7 or Grade 8 was the norm for many students, not just those at residential schools. My mother-in-law, who was one of the wisest women I have met, had only a Grade 8 education before she headed out into the world; she spent a fair time working as the housekeeper for priests. Don’t think either of my parents went beyond Grade 10; they achieved further education by other means. And, to be blunt, a Grade 8 education back then (late 1920s and early 30s) was a lot more rigorous than it is today, so their Grade 8 education was probably a fair bit better than the Grade 12 education today.
Getting passes from the reservations, etc., that I cannot comment on.
However, do remember a talk from the late Rev Margaret Waterchief who grew up near Brocket, Alberta. She would have attended the local residential school in the late ’30s and early ’40s. She really enjoyed school and said how encouraging her teachers were. It was not until she decided to go on to high school and had to take the bus to the nearest town that she encountered prejudice. Rev Waterchief was very open in saying that it was alcohol, not the residential schools, that were destroying the natives.
BTW, there have been a fair few Anglican priests who came through the residential system.
True not everyone had a bad experience at residential school but that is the narrative that most run with and that lady is correct about alcohol destroying communities. Your comment that your MIL ‘had only a Grade 8 education before she headed out into the world,’ she at least was allowed to enter into society, she didn’t need a piece of paper to tell her where she was allowed to go unlike those residential kids who did. And as for gaining employment off reserve, how twisted thinking must have been when the Department of Indian Affairs hired a Russian speaking man to be their interpreter to the Indians.
Once you entrap people and forbid their movements, forbid freedom of expression and religion the social contract is broken. The goal all along was for the Indian to arise in the image of their masters.
I would be wary of these 15 minute cities they are talking about implementing, they are nothing more than a reserve that has all the amenities one would need to live within those boundaries. Just easier to keep track of people’s movements when the next sham lockdown is implemented. Can you see yourself applying for a pass to leave?
Jonathan Kay, “even the most patriotic Canadian must admit that our record on this file constitutes a stain on the public conscience.”
No Jon, not OUR record. Do not blame the citizens who’ve demanded an end to the Indian Act which is solely designed to keep Canadian indians in poverty for never-ending political-stump-speech-promises. Rather, a century of successive Laurentian government policies w/o any positive impact on these issues is proof not of their incompetence, but of their malice, greed, and tyranny.
I agree with your statement but there are too much invested interests on both sides of the aisle to get rid of the Indian Act.