58 Replies to “Not Sticking with the Narrative”

  1. He sounds like someone I would have called a Leftist back in the Soviet Cold War Days. Maybe he is channeling the more Isolationist Original Republican Party of the 1860’s to WW2?

    1. Leftists always support the commies, the worst thing Russia ever did was drop communism for capitalism and BOOM out come the girls at The View & MSNBC along with their loyal audience.

        1. “BOOM! Out come Colon, B2ahole, KM, and others here.”

          (“Paging Allan S…”)

        2. Trolling under multiple aliases again Hobot? Yes, “YouSuck” is the same troll as HiHo and “Yeah Well”.

          1. The drive-by character assassinating is really starting to bring down this blog. What makes conservative blogs so valuable is the sheer weight of knowledge and experience of the commenters.

          2. What are you even talking about? Pointing out that a well known troll and hater of civilization changed its alias again is not character association.

        1. Russia is way more free than the UK or Canada; More economic freedom, more freedom to defend oneself, etc. I shudder to think what you think a Monkey Fist is for, but I’m sure you would be fine having a tranny teach your kid all about it.
          I thought the Ukes were winning, so they must have killed more people, or have the Russians killed more while stuck in the mud? Your narrative, like most of Biden’s, Pelosi’s, Trudeau’s and the rest is so full of holes that even your ilk can’t get your own offspring to fill them fast enough, no matter how you try to make women into men.

          2. “Russian leadership, including Prime Minister Vladimir Putin and President Dmitry Medvedev, now considers alcoholism a national security threat and have set a goal to halve the country’s alcohol consumption by 2020.”

            Any knowledge of any success since 2011?

          3. @Killer– Russian men dying from alcoholism is a social issue, not apolitical issue. It is also long-standing. Consuming lots of alcohol has always been a part of their culture. Same with Ukes and Lithuanians. I know. I have relatives.

          4. “Any knowledge of any success since 2011?”

            There has been none and moonshine production skyrocketed in response to hamfisted incompetent (i.e. russian) attempt at reforms. Its a normal orc story.

    1. The reasons, oral or otherwise, for the agreement remain the same.

      And I would suggest the consequences for breaking that agreement, oral or otherwise, remain the same

      1. If it doesn’t make a difference, why did Brakey emphasize the words in writing in his speech?

        At any rate, that error does not fill me with confidence in Brakey’s analysis.

    2. LOL.
      Same thing applies to the west; They see all agreements like the Constitution, the Minsk agreements, etc, as obstacles to be overcome, instead of principles to be adhered to.
      FO!

      1. “FO!”

        The owner of this blog has asked commenters to remain civil. Totally your choice, of course.

        1. FU and you’re crying for mommy, you disingenuous ahole.
          You and your type have aready made yourselves clear as total liars, willing to break your word on the say-so of any lawyer who says you can get away with it.
          So, again, FO!

          2. Look at this ahole’s method of argument. It’s called Ad-hominem. Note that his BS has nothing to do with the subject at hand, and everything to do with anything else he can wrap his ccksking mouth around.
            The salient point I made was :”They see all agreements like the Constitution, the Minsk agreements, etc, as obstacles to be overcome, instead of principles to be adhered to.”
            He, as the disingenuous ahole that he is, ignored that, and focused on his witto feewings!
            FO!

          4. The salient point I made was :”They see all agreements like the Constitution, the Minsk agreements, etc, as obstacles to be overcome, instead of principles to be adhered to.”
            Ahole.

          5. An “ad hominem” attack is one which involves buying large amounts of advertising aimed at the gay market.

    3. Russia is right. NATO is the aggressor here. Even a verbal agreement should be respected.

      1. Because new member states and people living there, who overwhelmingly supported joining NATO, should have no say about their countries and forever be sentenced to life under the syphilic orc dominance?
        Peace of our times baby. Let’s party like it 1938.

        1. People living there should realize that the human cost of joining NATO is too high. They should also realize They are bring used as a pawn in the West’s/US effort to bringd down Russia. They cannot win.

          1. What are you even talking about? What human cost? What is the cost of Eastern Europe of joining NATO? Every country that joined is safe from russia, if they didn’t, they got invaded like Ukraine, Georgia, Moldova.

            Do you have any perception of a human cost of living under russia?

            P.S., It is russia that cannot win. And russia has already lost. Ukraine will persevere. Ukraine will survive. Hence the number one objective that orcs wanted has failed, at great human cost to Ukraine, but staying under russian boot costs would be much greater.

            P.P.S. Get it though your head: russia is utter filth and expecting civilized to live under russian boot is fate worse than death. That is why Ukrainians are fighting.

    4. No such agreement should ever be binding, written, spoken, imagined, makes no difference. NATO expanded because new members were seeking protection from russia (and Serbia). In each case citizens of the new member state overwhelming supported joining NATO. That is all that is needed.

      The idea that russia should have a say about it is preposterous. There is no such thing as “russia’s sphere of influence”. Russia is a King Midas of fecal matter, and every effort ought to be made to free civilized world from russia.

      1. Leaving your anti-Russia rhetoric aside for a moment, it’s simple realpolitik. Such agreements are never binding, can never be binding, because they’re completely unenforceable. There’s no World Court and no World Police to enforce such a mythical Court’s decisions. Countries do exactly what they can get away with given their military and economic might.

        Trump, like Reagan, understood that the US’s greatest arsenal was not its military but its economic influence. China figured that out too, a long time ago.

        1. Realpolitik would have been enough. Sure. But the immorality of leaving anyone under a russian boot who could havc been rescued from under it cannot be ignored.

          It is not abstract “russophobia” to point out that moral duty of everyone is to reduce russia (preferably to zero) in every sphere and dimension. Like I have mentioned elsewhere a logical argument that russians are better than Nazis cannot be made. Hence they should be eliminated as much as possible.

  3. Listen to Putin, then listen to the western leaders, then decide for yourselves who are the good guys.

    1. I wouldn’t call the western leaders “good guys”, but they are preferable to that murdering lying imperialist tyrant in Moscow who is doing so much to destroy his own country.

      1. You are full of shite, and a total liar to boot. You are nothing more than a WEF policy apologist.
        You and the western media alike try to paint Putin as some kind of baby-eating freak, while at the same time paint yourselves as some kind of moral authority. Go suck your tranny ahole.

        1. There’s that potty mouth again.

          I do enjoy rattling your cage, but I doubt the blog owner is thrilled with this thread.

          1. Once again, an argument having nothing to do with the subject at hand, but rather some hand-wringing pearl-clutching desire to see me canceled and censored.
            That’s how people know that I’m telling the truth and that you are an effin liar.

          2. “some hand-wringing pearl-clutching desire to see me canceled and censored.”

            Now who’s playing the victim?

            At any rate, I don’t want you canceled. You’re far too entertaining.

          3. “I do enjoy rattling your cage, ”

            Yes, you do seem to experience a child-like satisfaction from it.

            “At any rate, I don’t want you canceled. You’re far too entertaining.”

            (oh, the irony…)

          4. Fred From BC:

            The child here is YouSuck, who can’t handle disagreement without spewing a river of profanities and insults. Take him to task.

          5. “Take him to task.”

            LOL, that would require a minimum integrity from Freddie here. Good luck with that.

  4. So many ironies.

    The same people who for 6 years, and still do, tell us to hate Trump also tell us to hate Putin.
    What do the two men represent and have in common? Please spare us with opinions presented as fact.

    Biden…and most of the corrupt western leaders, claim to be fighting communism (through the Ukraineian’s) all the while promoting communism (bigger and bigger government) domestically.

    Not to mention the so-called concern about another country’s border.

    Hypocrites they are and all who carry water for them.

  5. Kate has posted a great article by Matt Taibbi today on the waning of the censorship-industrial complex. I’m not sure it is waning but that’s another story.

    The point I want to make with this reference to Taibbi is that it while it might not seem the Ukraine war is related to his revelations, they are intertwined in the same insidious, sustained effort to manufacture opinion through overt and covert censorship, lying, and cancelling dissent.

    The most obvious fabrications of this opinion manufacturing operation, like the Jan6 “armed insurrection”, “safe and effective”, “most secure election ever”, and the “existential crisis of climate change”, are only a few of the constructed narratives. Another is the narrative of Ukraine, the beacon of democracy, fighting to liberate the freedom loving Donbassians and Crimeans from the yoke of the evil Russian empire.

    Anyway it’s good to see someone with the courage to punch back at the empire of lies with some factual historical context to the war in Ukraine.

    1. “Another is the narrative of Ukraine, the beacon of democracy, fighting to liberate the freedom loving Donbassians and Crimeans from the yoke of the evil Russian empire.”

      Patently Russia invaded Ukraine with the aim of conquering it entirely. Now I give you that Ukraine is far short of a perfect country, but that doesn’t make Russia’s actions any more defensible. What part of the narrative do you think is false?

      1. Perhaps Russia invaded Ukraine with the intent of forcing it to allow the Dunbas region to gain autonomy (or join Russia if it desired) that was denied it by Ukraine ignoring/breaking the Minsk agreement. There is no “Patently”, if doubt can be expressed.

      2. I do not believe that Russia’s initial intention was to conquer the Ukraine entirely. They were not interested in specific regions with notable Russian population.

        1. “I do not believe that Russia’s initial intention was to conquer the Ukraine entirely. They were not interested in specific regions with notable Russian population.”

          They tried to take Kiev. They got within 31 km.

          1. Thec war has changed the dynamic, but I believe their initial interest was primarily areas with substantial Russian population.

          2. LindaL:

            When you find yourself defending murderous authoritarian tyrants who invade neighbouring countries with the goal of annexation, you should probably — with all due respect — reevaluate your thinking and priorities.

            I know how you got here. It’s become popular among some elements of the political right to oppose supporting Ukraine (which is fine) and supporting Putin (which is not). And people have a habit of falling in line according to their political allegiances . But Russia’s actions are indefensible, resulting in the needless death of hundreds of thsouands of people, and Putin ten times so.

        2. “I do not believe that Russia’s initial intention was to conquer the Ukraine entirely. They were not interested in specific regions with notable Russian population.”

          Then you’re being willingly naïve. Remember the map that Lukashenko leaked? It included all of Ukraine and Moldova.

      3. Patently Russia attacked Kiev with the aim of taking out the government, and occupying the country until a compliant regime was in place, which would resume control once the boundaries had been fixed and secured. Patently they blew it. Nothing else is patent.

        By any standard Russia is entitled to secure boundaries. By practical standards, they’re entitled to a compatible neighbour. By the standards the Ukrainians themselves apply, Russia is entitled to control all its national territory and to expel others from it.

        I can see a lot of reasons to regret the bloodshed and want it to stop. But you want the bloodshed to continue, justified by the need to punish Russia. Maybe you should ease up on the moralizing.

        1. “I can see a lot of reasons to regret the bloodshed and want it to stop. But you want the bloodshed to continue, justified by the need to punish Russia. Maybe you should ease up on the moralizing.”

          This.

          Well said. The people here who will try to deflect from the weakness of their position by labelling anyone with a contrary opinion on Ukraine as a “Putin supporter” are the same people who will label you a “denier’ for any questions, no matter how innocuous, about climate change, election fraud or mRNA vaccines, and a “bigot” for any challenge to their rigid, one-sided views on illegal immigration or ‘gender identity’ issues. What it really translates to is “Shut UP! ” and “STOP making me look stupid in front of everyone!!”

    3. “Another is the narrative of Ukraine, the beacon of democracy, ”

      Kinda hard to have a ‘democracy’ when you outlaw most other political parties (which is probably easier to do after you have shut down all the news media but the ones you control).

      I wonder how many BILLIONS Zelensky now has in his offshore accounts?

    1. Possibly, but they are not the only ones. US should have a spot at the front of the line. Why sudddnly people see them as defenders of democracy is beyond me.

    2. “I remember Malaysian Air MH17.

      Russia is a mass murderer.”

      Simplistic as usual. Perhaps Ukraine should have closed the airspace and foregone the overflight fees?

      But if Russia is a “mass murderer” for accidentally shooting down an airliner, so are the:

      Japanese
      Chinese
      Bulgarians
      Israelis
      Pakistanis
      Somalis
      Ethiopians
      Iranians
      Americans
      (and more)

      ….all of whom have accidentally shot down civilian flights.

  8. I see the mental midgets are busy slapping at each other about Russia and the Ukraine.

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