Don’t Dare Disagree with Dear Leader, you Flat Earthers!

Justin Trudeau sure knows how to encourage unity:

Speaking to an audience at the Mississauga Fire Service’s Garry Morden fire training centre last Thursday, Trudeau talked of being “fascinated with the idea of flat Earthers.”

With protesters outside shouting, he explained to what looked like a stunned audience inside how “there wasn’t really any moment back in recorded history — the ancient Greeks, the ancients Babylonians, Inkas or whoever else — who actually wondered whether the world was actually flat or not. Christopher Columbus knew the Earth was round, there was no danger he was going to fall off the edge of the world. That’s not what people were worried about, as he was setting off to discover the Americas or to discover a shortcut to India.”

h/t Buddy

72 Replies to “Don’t Dare Disagree with Dear Leader, you Flat Earthers!”

  1. There is no end to this narcissist’s barely hidden NAZI mentality…is there.?
    Anyone not agreeing with him is: LABELLED – Put in a Box w/Locked Door.
    A Concentration Kampf by any other name.

    F’ing waste of oxygen.
    His life ending…?
    ha…that would TRULY be something to celebrate.

    1. “A Concentration Kampf by any other name.”

      Also known as a “15 minute city”.

    2. You mean Konzentrationslager

      Kampf means battle or struggle. Hence Mein Kampf = My Battle

  2. I have more respect Putin, and the people living in modest shacks content planting an acre of potatoes and making homemade sausage. Over the lying sacks of sht, and the “happy” vegetables that vote them in or look away at the obvious mess they themselves created.
    The progs have graduated from Neanderthal to something different even worse in light of the last couple of years. And what they require is silence of the mind.
    Tolerance my ass.

  3. Trudeau didn’t talk about why going the entire way around the planet was thought to be a better idea than taking the shortcut near the islamic lands?

    1. Marc – from what I’ve read, Columbus thought China was just out of sight on the other side of the Atlantic Ocean and was rather surprised to find the Americas in the way.

      1. https://www.cliffsnotes.com/cliffsnotes/subjects/history/what-did-columbus-do-besides-sail-to-the-new-world

        “When the Turks captured Constantinople in 1453, the price of Asian trade goods skyrocketed in Europe. Explorers realized the fortune to be made if a route to the Indies — China, India, and Japan — could be found that bypassed the Turk/Muslim-controlled waters of the Middle East. Columbus decided to sail west, going the long way around the world and arriving in China from the east. He tried to interest the King of Portugal in his plan, but the Portuguese believed it impossible. Eventually, the King and Queen of Spain granted Columbus three ships, and he set sail on his first voyage on August 3, 1492.”

        Isabella had just that year, in 1492 gotten rid of the islamic menace in Spain … I think her and Ferdinand were on a roll ! I used Cliff’s Notes for an explanation, the others I read include Yale Prof Alan Mikhail who repeatedly refers to Columbus as a crusader and always includes “islamophobia” then says it doesn’t really fit as the word didn’t exist in the 1490’s though he tosses it in there often.

        I don’t recall where I first heard this, though the taking of Constantinople was a great loss back then and it affected Columbus greatly.

  4. I used to be one of those “flatten the curvers.” Then I observed that the data curve didn’t fit the narrative hypothesis. From the internet I learned we were being lied to in so many ways.

  5. Quite telling actually: so while entire country is “fascinated” by how deep China penetrated Canada and how compromised is Trudeau cabinet (again!), DearLeader is fascinated by flat earthers.

  6. Twaddels insanity has become very dangerous. We need protection from him and all those who support him.

  7. The poster child for showing the effects on the brain of too much pot thus speaketh. I certainly hope there is an outside explanation for someone being such a raving lunatic.

  8. maybe something he learned in the second try at grade 8. or retained when failing at some of his varied degree attempts. all failures .

      1. ^ highly likely given his inability to think on his own. Who “advised” him to get on the flat earth train. What a retard

      2. Can’t vouch for the grade 8 failure, but he did bail out of two graduate programs. Good luck finding that anywhere on the intertoobs. Pretty much been sanitized.

  9. ACTUAL history says:

    • Ancient Greece: Most pre-Socratics (6th–5th century BC) retained the flat-Earth model. A similar model is found in the Homeric account from the 8th century BC in which “Okeanos, the personified body of water surrounding the circular surface of the Earth, is the begetter of all life and possibly of all gods. Both Homer and Hesiod described a disc cosmography on the Shield of Achilles.

    • In early Egyptian and Mesopotamian thought, the world was portrayed as a disk floating in the ocean.

    • The ancient Norse and Germanic peoples believed in a flat-Earth cosmography with the Earth surrounded by an ocean, with the axis mundi, a world tree (Yggdrasil), or pillar (Irminsul) in the centre

    • The Vedic texts depict the cosmos in many ways. One of the earliest Indian cosmological texts picture the Earth as one of a stack of flat disks

    • In ancient China, the prevailing belief was that the Earth was flat and square, while the heavens were round, an assumption virtually unquestioned until the introduction of European astronomy in the 17th century.

    1. Eratosthenes, a Greek philosopher, made some measurements and came up with an accurate idea of the circumference of a spherical earth. This he did in 240 BC. The Greeks already believed that the earth was spherical, not flat, but didn’t know how big it was until Eratosthenes did his thing.

      The Greeks had conquered the known world by then, and Greek was the universal trade language in the time of Christ. The books of the New Testament were written in Greek in the first century AD. There is no way that the early Christians did not know that the earth was a sphere. This flat-earth-believer accusation is ignorant to an astounding degree.

      https://www.aps.org/publications/apsnews/200606/history.cfm

      1. “This flat-earth-believer accusation is ignorant to an astounding degree.”

        He’s a [spit] Prog. Whaddya expect? Got no facts of his own to use, so he just starts hurling shit in the hopes that some of it will stick.

      2. And yet, we see too far for the curvature math, the stars spin above our heads as demonstrated by a time lapse of the night sky and the flattest parts of our realm are the ocean bottoms, covering 73% of this realm’s surface.

        Where’s the curved part? In books?

  10. My brother lives in Bolton, Ontario.
    A while ago he was talking to his neighbour who is in the Carpenters’ Union (management).
    They got little advance warning that Junior was showing up. Only visibly diverse were able to ask scripted questions of “Great Leader”,
    who had prepared answers for these questions. The carpenters were ticked off that they had to show up, even though they got paid to show up.
    He is such a narcissistic fool.

    1. and I’m sure the “visibly diverse” acted like trained seals and performed on demand for Little Potato

  11. What can I say other than he is Canada’s Kamala Harris. Whereas Kamala is cordoned off somewhere where she is relatively harmless, our goofball is front and centre.

  12. But why did our prime minister invoke the name of Christopher Columbus? According to woke liberal arts studies, Columbus has been seen as an evil person for some time now.

  13. I’m in no position to throw stones at the flat earthers. I believe the Canucks will win the Stanley Cup one day.

    1. At least they’ve been to the dance three times…unlike Buffalo which has never made it to the finals. Be grateful for your blessings.

      1. Buffalo has made it to the big dance, 1975 and 1999. No one remembers the petite girl with the blue dress on……

  14. “It is not difficult to see how the story of Columbus was adapted so that he became the figure of progress rather than a lucky man who profited from his error. According to Jeffrey Burton Russell here, the invention of the flat Earth myth can be laid at the feet of the nineteenth century writer Washington Irving, who included it in his historical novel on Columbus, and the wider idea that the everyone in the Middle Ages was deluded has been widely accepted ever since.”

    https://jameshannam.com/flatearth.htm

  15. Unfortunately, those flat earthers of the southern Ontario, western Quebec Liberal Family Compact will vote him in again…and again…and again.

  16. An excerpt:

    “The invention of the ‘dark ages’ by Renaissance scholars is a complex story. Humanists wanted to renew the study of classical authors and the original texts without the mediation of medieval scholars, as medieval transmission was deemed faulty in several aspects. Paradoxically, the Renaissance, which is often seen as a very progressive period, not only hid many previous achievements, but was also less progressive than is often imagined, as it was actually the culmination of the old project of the Roman and medieval commentators. It was a Re-naissance, still a backward-looking movement, which exalted Aristotle and other ancient sages. To make things more complex and paradoxical, the Reformation of the early 16th century and the confrontation and polarization that ensued, gave European intellectuals much less freedom to disagree with religious authorities and traditional views than in the scholastic era. In spite of this, many Protestants reinforced a prejudice towards the Middle Ages that they saw as a period of Catholic oppression. Enlightenment scholars did not have a better opinion and maligned the entire Christian past (of whatever confession) up to their own time.

    Somewhere during this period, and in particular after the rediscovery of Cosmas and the increasing criticism of the Christian tradition, the supposedly flat earth belief of medieval Christians became the ideal topic to concentrate all the bitterness of the moderns against the past. The myth that was engendered then still lives on, taught to our children at school and endlessly repeated by mass media, films, novels, etc. It is a central piece in the contemporary larger myth of the science and faith conflict. A myth that would not die, astonishingly, in spite of the fact that in the 15th century nobody was afraid of falling off the edge of the earth.

    Pablo de Felipe
    Published January 2017”

    https://www.theologie-naturwissenschaften.de/en/dialogue-between-theology-and-science/editorials/flat-earth-myth/

  17. And for those interested in the definitive reference on Columbus and the Flat Earth Myth: https://www.amazon.com/Inventing-Flat-Earth-Columbus-Historians/dp/027595904X

    “Neither Christopher Columbus nor his contemporaries thought the earth was flat. Yet this curious illusion persists today, firmly established with the help of the media, textbooks, teachers―even noted historians. Inventing the Flat Earth is Russell’s attempt to set the record straight. He begins with a discussion of geographical knowledge in the Middle Ages, examining what Columbus and his contemporaries actually did believe, and then moves to a look at how the error was first propagated in the 1820s and 1830s and then snowballed to outrageous proportions by the late 19th century. But perhaps the most intriguing focus of the book is the reason why we allow this error to persist. Do we prefer to languish in a comfortable and familiar error rather than exert the effort necessary to discover the truth? This uncomfortable question is engagingly answered.

    Inventing the Flat Earth is Jeffrey Burton Russell’s attempt to set the record straight. He begins with a discussion of geographical knowledge in the Middle Ages, examining what Columbus and his contemporaries actually did believe, and then moves to a look at how the error was first propagated in the 1820s and 1830s―including how noted writers Washington Irving and Antoinne-Jean Letronne were among those responsible. He shows how later day historians followed these original mistakes, and how this snowball effect grew to outrageous proportions in the late nineteenth century, when Christians opposed to Darwinism were labelled as similar to Medieval Christians who (allegedly) thought the earth was flat. But perhaps the most intriguing focus of the book is the reason why we allow this error to persist. Do we prefer to languish in a comfortable and familiar error rather than exert the effort necessary to discover the truth? This uncomfortable question is engagingly answered, and includes a discussion about the implications of this for historical knowledge and scholarly honesty.”

  18. “But the ability to start to believe something that simply isn’t true-because enough people are telling you and enforcing that around you- actually starts creating problems .” No shit Sherlock – the dweeb does not have a shred of self awareness.

      1. Exactly. In fact, today this is undoubtedly the most common tool used in politics and governance in the West; and I give you “Russian Collusion.”

  19. Flat earther = global warming denier

    Your Dear Leader is mocking all who don’t want to PAY massive carbon taxes and see fossil fuels banned by their so-called superiors. Trudeau has gone full Guilbeault now.

    1. Yep, Kenji.
      He simply pulls out the name calling with any who dare to disagree with him.
      Whether the issue is covid, vaxxing, carbon dioxide tax, Islamophobia, Trans exhibitions, blah blah blah – he simply name calls any who disagree with him.
      Remember how the truckers were called Racist, Misogynist, Homophobic and Transphobic while they were still on the way to Ottawa? Simply every name JT could think of. Now he has a new one
      Not sure what any of those labels had to do with the covid mandates, but JT’s loyal followers bought his vitriol. There were counterprotesters at the convoy yelling “Trans rights are human rights!” Viva Frei had to ask them “Are you even at the right protest?”
      There were people protesting JT outside, so he needed to identify them as being somehow backward people angry at being left behind in the Brave March Forward. Equating them with flat earthers.
      His accusations need not be true. If he can continue the meme that conservatives (or any who oppose his Divine Rule) are dull, backwards non-thinkers, that association will be planted in unthinking minds.
      And as he touts himself as being the Progressive One, nobody in the media will think to ask “Progressing towards what?”
      So you are right, Kenji – these are not inane ramblings with no purpose – he has a definite message he wants to imply. Right Wing Extremist or Conspiracy Theorist are not severe enough labels, so he is pulling out a new one. Look for this association to be ramped up in the near future.
      And it will work. Tribalism and Identity politics are strong in this country, and people will latch on to anything that denigrates those outside their group.

  20. I sure hope he does more of this. As he becomes more desperate he’ll get even more unhinged and it seems like no one can stop him.

    1. The kicker is, some find this quality endearing & it will cement their vote!

      Plus, it’s said that women find him attractive and many vote based on that. I just don’t get it. I look at his mug & I see schnoz from his eyebrows to his chin. May as well be a GD elephant. Sam Elliot is a handsome sonuvabitch. This idiot got beat w/ the ugly stick and it attached itself to his face.

      1. An under-30 “conservative” woman of my acquaintance some years ago considered herself a staunch fiscal and economic big- and small-c conservative – but voted for Justin because “I don’t know, there’s just something about him”.

        I know, honey. I know.

        Repeal 1918 c.20.

  21. Don’t be distracted by this talk of the “flat earth”.

    The f@g is merely showing contempt for people better than him.

  22. Ask liberals if it’s possible for a man to get pregnant and have a baby if he believes that the Earth is flat.

  23. A strawman argument from Trudeau.
    I don’t distrust government because I believe that the Earth is flat.
    I distrust it because I’ve read history books and can see the lies and fascism.

    But Liberals know how stupid their supporters are and how easy it is to feed them garbage.
    They’ve done polling.

  24. The PMO, and other Flat Earthers…
    I think I’ll file that away with “Liberals, and other knuckle draggers.”

  25. Not only do we believe it is flat but it rests on a giant turtle’s back.
    I’m offended.
    Pay me.

    1. Big Chief Cigarette Billionaire (Kenny Hill) died in Miami a while back at the age of 62. Wonder how his many kids and baby mama’s will divvy that up fortune?

  26. It’s the same contempt his step daddy had for all of Western (pay the bills) Canadians.

  27. All fascists start this way.
    Call you names, “flat earthers”, “useless eaters”.
    Get in the boxcar you scum…………..

  28. JT is right on this count, even though he’s projecting.
    If your only excuse for dismissing something is that “its only a model” or “its just a theory”, well then, you are no different than a flat earther.

  29. The earth is flat until you fly out in space and notice is a globe.. Kind of like the double slit experiment.. A argument can be made that it is both.. All in the physics of our world is very interesting..

    1. No, the earth is noticeably round, even if you don’t fly out into space: Large infrastructure, surface navigation, etc all testify to this fact; for example, the foundations of the Golden Gate bridge are closer together than the tips of the supports, because the earth is round. Then there are the coriolis forces that drive hurricanes and monsoons, which are also a testament to the roundness of the earth.

      1. The Golden Gate bridge is a human construction, and in no way proves or disproves any natural reality.

  30. Actually the inverse is true. All peoples knew the earth wasn’t round, and built their wonders of the world and navigated it using tools that worked on a flat earth.

    It wasn’t until the anti-Christian Roman Catholic cult fabricated the fiction of a globe earth, “space”, and galaxies through Roman Catholic priest Copernicus, and playing their usual game of pretending to be on the other side of their controlled opposition for a time, that this lie became mainstream.

    But even low IQ puppet Roman Catholic Juthtin Trudeau likely knows that.

  31. I’m more disturbed that a fire department gives this clown a platform. How can you trust firefighters that would politely let this pervert traitor have a voice in their space?

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