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“Wait…Nord STREAM? I thought we were talking about Nord STROM’S.”
— Dimbulb White House Affirmative Action Press Secretary
That’s a bit of a stretch.
Let’s follow up on submarine locations and durations first. Its seems equally possible that Russia needed to tighten LNG supply potential.
The data’s there, prolly next to someone’s classic car or something of the nature.
Because blowing it up is so much easier than just shutting off the tap. Try again.
The pipelines were shut down. Germany had no intention of opening it.
Doesn’t make sense to blow up a pipeline that is closed down.
However if the closed pipeline was never going to open, which is true, could blowing it up serve a purpose? Like sowing descension? Like warning other submarine pipeline users?
Ridiculous comment. Russia has control of the compressor stations and valves. Easy to say you have a down compressor than blow up a pipeline on the seabed.
Oh please. Blowing up your own pipeline? Explain it to me like you might to a four year old because I must be missing something. As Mike says, they’d turn it off if they wanted to extort Germany. Blowing it up makes zero sense and, besides, that cocky idiot who pretends to be the president basically bragged about doing it.
Blowing up your own pipeline? – simples. Russia can sell all the gas it wants – or more accurately, all the gas it can supply; and right now, China will take it all well into the foreseeable future, but Russia can’t supply China and Europe at the same time. So how easier to cripple Germany and through them, all Europe while assuring they can meet their supply contracts to the Chinese and shrug-off their contracted supply to their NATO customers?
And I really hope that’s what happened; because if the U.S. did it, I fail to see how that’s not an act of war against Russia. And best of all for the Russians (and the Chinese, now that staple of international diplomacy has been tossed into the dustbin of history), it’s an open invitation to do the same to the U.S. in “tit-for-tat” meme. This could get very ‘interesting’ – and very ugly.
It’s an act of war against Germany, not Russia. An attack on one NATO member by another member.
Go back to Reddit.
…or if you’re not a they/them predditor – your CSIS day job where you “fight” disinformation on socials and in comment sections.
Anyone who thinks Russia did this is not very bright.
Poland?? That’s my guess. The sissified Germans likely made them puke.
That was my first guess too. They have very experienced navy divers/special forces unit Formoza. They invested heavily in underwater drones. They have just launched another state of the art minehunter. They know Baltic very well. Would not surprise me if they quietly forced German hand and then happily watched the finger pointing.
did anybody really think the US did NOT do it?
cmon man.
anybody who thinks the russians did it
has been tipping the vodka too much
My guess?
Two – Three weeks until Tapioca Joe confirms that the US sabotaged the Nordstream Pipelines. All four (4) pipelines within a few hours was not a coincidence.
With Senile Joe Biden’s skill, grace, and timing? It will probably be blabbed out loud inadvertently during an answer about a record cold snap in Europe when they are hauling frozen corpses out of European apartment buildings that had no natural gas heat and rolling blackouts.
OTOH…how likely is it that he was involved in the actual decision?
He just is not capable. Wicked, yes, but not decisive.
I picture the powers that be informing him as the events happen.
Did they even bother to tell Joe that they did it? Give him some pudding and he’s content.
Yes I really thought the US did NOT do it. Just didn’t make sense. Still think that.
Nor did I think the Ruskies did it – makes even less sense.
This, however, does make a lot of sense.
https://thelawdogfiles.com/2022/09/nordstream.html
It certainly does, however the author admits to an element of doubt.
What is indisputable is F*ck Joe Biden is an habitual liar and if he says the USA did not sabotage NordStream, it is close to absolute certainly that the USA DID sabotage at least one pipeline.
This credible fellow https://www.moonofalabama.org/ inclines to your view. (Lots of good sources there, including this previous NATO whoopsy) https://twitter.com/MrFrantarelli/status/1579503548693614593
That appears to be perhaps the most credible theory so far.
That post could be just BS too.
The only time I ever saw that explanation, and as they were trying to pin it on the Russians, that would have been all over the news pushing Russian incompetence and US innocence at the same time. The fact that never happened, I call this story not likely.
We all knew it from the very beginning. Now we get to watch the fools that said it was the Russians do a 180 and tell us how wonderful it was that we could carry this out. Wondering how our German allies are feeling about it right now.
“anybody who thinks the russians did it
has been tipping the vodka too much”
Absolutely. As I said as right from the start, that pipeline is a very expensive asset to replace, and Russia owns it…why would they want to destroy their own property when they had so many other options?
I hate to mention it, but on Right Wing sites we usually claim that the person has been smoking unusually powerful marijuana.
Still not sure Biden had anything to do with it…
However, credit, where credit is due, if Democrats did.
I like that it got sabotaged.
This is the reason we have a Navy, frogmen, subs, explosives, guns and James Bond, Live and Let Die soundtracks.
Use them or sell it.
The West (we) need to be more unpredictable when dealing with madmen and tyrants.
Dangerous when said ” madmen and tyrants ” have nukes and the willingness to use them if poked too much.
Yeah….nothing like cutting of supply of natural gas during the winter.
Yes yes, those Germans have been freeeeezing in the dark for the whole winter now, millions have died like you have predicted months ago, right?
Well because Germany has cranked up their coal fired power plants but then you didn’t know that did you? That’s because you don’t know much about anything. Oh…by the way, virtually ALL of the EU have done the same thing. It’s always funny when the ignorant display their proficiency so publicly.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g-bVEc8oZvk
Whooosh.
Yes that’s the point, Pootin’s threat turned out to be nothing but pathetic posturing. LNG terminals opened, they got more from coal and poof blackmail is gone. All you brosheviks have been forecasting doom and gloom for Europe after Pootin cuts off gas and nothing happened.
Funny how those “green” nations went quickly black when they knew that the citizens would publicly hang the politicians pushing the green fraud.
Again, German plan was to build a trading empire based on russian energy and Chicom components. They have been ramming through their green policies as a way to make Eastern Europe their colonies. It was never about being green it was about creating economic dependence. They have even admitted that this was not about being green. This world went poof.
Just watched an Arte.tv doc on YouTube about food banks in Berlin & Hamburg. People are turning down potatoes because they can’t afford to cook them. And this was before winter really set in.
LOL, nobody is doing that. You’re being gullible. Go to Germany and see.
The Germans are paying 5 times the going rate for that power.
Damage is being inflicted in other ways on the incompetent Greeners.
To an ally, even. Apparently we don’t know who our enemies are.
Trump was right. Germans needed decoupling from Pootin’s gas. Now they got it.
They can go back to burning lignite. I remember trying to look across the Ruhr Valley…..looked like Los Angeles smog.
They will not need to do this. No worries.
“dealing with madmen and tyrants.”
That would be the president and prime minister. Why do you listen to their lies?
So you like that the United States committed an act of war against Germany, one of their allies?
What I’d like is for the Germans to offer some proportional retaliation for the screwing they got, namely their withdrawal from the North Atlantic Treaty Organization and the immediate expulsion of all American military personnel from their territory.
The Americans clearly want Germany and every other NATO member to be vassals who obey unquestioningly, and the Germans being willing to continue trading with Russia called that into question.
“…immediate expulsion of all American military personnel from their territory.”
LOL, this just gets better and better. Brilliant plan had it not been for the fact that every time US threatens to remove their troops from Germany, Germans beg them not to.
“Germans being willing to continue trading with Russia called that into question.”
Trump was right, get over it.
It would have been the CIA and the Pentagon who made that decision. Biden wouldn’t have even been informed. Too dangerous to let ol’ bumblin’ stumblin’ mumblin’ Joe in on the secret.
I’m not so sure it wasn’t China….
…and then build an even bigger pipeline from Russia to China
You dont steal elections to play small ball.
You’ve got that right.
Biden
Feb. 7, 2022
“We will bring an end to it.”
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OS4O8rGRLf8
Start at 1:54
Bob
EXACTLY…
CLEAR intent.
Clear Capability…
Zero question AFAIAC.
So we can take out a ‘Russian’ pipeline … but can’t do anything about a ChiCom SPY balloon crossing America.
And you wonder who has BOUGHT the US Presidency. Hint: it’s not Putin
it’s not the (ñ)ukes?
Hyper denial from the same crowd that said the US had no involvement in BioWeapon labs in Ukraine, until they did.
LOL, except that US had no involvement in bio weapons labs in Ukraine because there weren’t any to begin with.
The simpletons confuse biological weapons with biolabs. An easy mistake for them.
When the two are the same thing, there is no confusion, stupid.
And when they aren’t the same there is confusion among the stupid. And they aren’t the same, hence you’re confused.
Yet they are the same….as we discovered with Wuhan. More to come, no doubt.
Art, no you’re just confused again and seeing what you want to see.
Where do you think bio-weapons are made? In a commercial kitchen? Idiot.
What do you think the Wuhan Lab is? What with it’s “Level-5” containment construction?
Is it possible to have a bio lab that is not a bio weapons lab? Nah, that’s just crazy talk.
Is it possible to make bio weapons without a bio lab? Nah, that’s just crazy talk.
Colonialista,
Wait until they find out every developed nation has biolabs.
Allan S, IKR, wait till they discover that every university that has a med school has a bio lab.
Art, that is not how it works, just because every hamster has four legs, it does not mean that every four legged animal is a hamster. Go see your cat for a proof of my theory.
High level viral containment labs were built around the world over that past 10-15 years or so. I was involved in some design work as I was involved with Winnipeg’s Lab on systems.
The official line was they were built to contain/research a lethal viral outbreak locally rather than bring that virus to another country. Reducing risk. They are not on the scale of Winnipeg’s Lab, but would do the job.
You know this how?
Do we have any people on the ground that can say they do or don’t.
Remember Russia, Russia, Russia.
That’s not how it works. The burden of proof is on those who claim existence of such labs in Ukraine. Get back to me when you can cough up any evidence of them having such labs.
So in other words. You’ve got zip.
Now you’re just trolling because you know you have lost the argument.
I will pay you $10,000 USD for evidence of any of the following:
Ukrainian violations of the Chemical Weapons Convention signed in 1993
Ukrainian violations of the Biological Weapons Convention signed in 1973
Ukrainian violations of the Nuclear non-proliferation Treaty signed in 1963
You know your mom doesn’t have ten grand.
Best thing said on here today Scar
If USA Today and New York Times says there are no bio labs in Ukraine, you can be certain there are.
Yes, and if USA Today and New York Times say that Argentina won the World Cup it means they lost, is that how it works? Or are you just confused again?
Not confused at all. But I sure do know who pumps out the “misinformation”…..it usually take USA Today, New York Times and Reuters about a year or so to catch up.
You mean NY slime who supported Stalin… Yeah we should really trust what they print.
Art and Dusoff, MSM has been producing misinformation, yes, that does not mean that everything they say is misinformation, I can’t make is any simpler. In any case there is no evidence of US funded biolabs in Ukraine, none at all. Zip. Zilch. Nada. Bupkis.
Right allen.
Heck you don’t even know the difference between and Navy plane or an Air Force.
Should we talk about the other balloons during Prez Trumps time, yet the DOD has not shown any proof.
OOOOOOOOO we signed a piece of paper. Yeah that will do it. You really are dumb.
Just admit it
Hey dummy, check history.
Ukraine became independent again when the Soviet Union dissolved in 1991. So from 1963 to 1973 was a wash. You have no idea what was going on there.
If you think Russia has not been working on all kinds of bio-weapons. You are a fool.
Just maybe you should join the service and become a Medic, so you can see ALL the training, like say these kind of weapons. If you have the IQ.
You know what I meant.
If Ukraine wasn’t independent pre 1991, neither was Russia. They and Belarus created the USSR.
Cut the back and forth crap. You know who you all are.
Biden Admin denies
vs
Seymour Hersh with an anonymous source
/neither is believable: See Throckmorton’s Razor and Minuteman’s Corollary
I tend to agree with you however, lately it seems, far more often than not, any information provided by our government turns out to be a lie.
Trudeau is sending a couple of tanks over so, you know, it will be over soon. Just wait until we have hydrogen!!
Justin heard something needed to be blown…he misunderstood
Those tanks will last 15 minutes without air support.
A virtue signalling disposal of antiquated equipment.
They can take one only on the C17. Just imagine how much that’s costing.
How many piplines Bihden takedown?
KeystoneXL (Cdn)- day 1
Nordstream Uno y dos (Ru)- day 614
Tom Lehrer – So Long, Mom
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pklr0UD9eSo
You won’t see this on the news, or outside of certain echo chambers.
They want War but they need it to be Russia’s fault.
And the world yawns its way towards WWIII.
Just because the President of the US said he would get rid of the pipeline if Russia invaded Ukraine in a room full of reporters doesn’t mean the President of the US got rid of the pipeline when Russia invaded Uraine. Sheesh! All those conspiracy theorists…
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/FVbEoZXhCrM
You know those RCN subs that are MIA?
Suicide mission ordered by turdo and Greta. To wean the world off petro-carbons.
Such selfless sacrifice. Posthumous O of C’s all around. Hush hush, of course.
Did Biden know or was this another Bay of Pigs c*ck-up by the CIA? I opined here months ago that there are very few countries that could have carried out this type of operation so lets re-examine the list. Russia needed the gas money from Germany and the rest of Europe to finance the war. America was pissed that Germany was helping Russia finance the war. If China could ignite a war between Russia and America, China wins. If America had blown up the pipeline Russia could declare war. If China has blown up the pipeline Russia could declare war. This puts Putin at a disadvantage, damned if he does and damned if he does either way. So is this why Putin has done nothing? Three super powers and neither one trusts the other two. Sounds like a standoff, politically and militarily. If it was a CIA c*ck-up and the truth does come out there is going to be a whole lot of hurt dished out.
Martin Armstrong has a few things to say about the lying Uke Nazis.
https://www.armstrongeconomics.com/world-news/war/military-tactic-demonizing-world-leaders-to-create-war/
“To those Ukrainian Nazis who send me hate mail saying I am on the wrong side of history, your hatred of Russia is so vile and distorted, you are fools. You are completely destroying your own country and you cannot avoid this destruction because of your blind hatred. Your worship of the Nazi Bandera and his policy to exterminate everyone from the region who was not Ukrainian has placed the world on the side of Hitler. I’m sorry, but you will not succeed and you will destroy the dreams of a Ukrainian nation-state. “
The ponzi scheme Martin Armstrong or a different one?
Perfectly consistent with Biden’s history of horrible foreign policy decisions. PERFECTLY.
KimDotcom is spreading manure. Norway would never take part. Retaliation would be certain.
Presumably stupid Joe would be steered away from such an escalation by distracting him with a pudding cup.
It is a mystery.
This whole tragedy shows why getting rid of Pres. Trump was a catastrophe.
I think Russia knew almost immediately that the US / NATO was responsible for this.
If they react now, in response to this story that has just now been allowed to enter mainstream news, instead of when they knew about it months ago, that just tells us that Russia is just another actor here, doing nothing more than playing their part in whatever script is unfolding.