The loss of glaciers from Glacier National Park is one of the most visible manifestations of climate change in the U.S. Signs were posted all around the park, proclaiming that the glaciers would be gone by 2020. In 2017, the Park started taking these signs down. What happened, beyond the obvious fact that the glaciers hadn’t disappeared by 2020?
Not only are Montana’s glaciers an important icon for global warming (e.g. Al Gore’s Inconvenient Truth), it also seems that the glaciers are an important political icon for progressive politicians in Montana. Earlier this week, Reilly Neill, a (sort of) politician in Montana, went after me on Twitter […]
Well, it just so happens that I have some analyses of Montana glaciers and climate in my archives; maybe I can help Reilly (and the “real scientists of Montana”) understand what is going on.
Tony Heller – Another Hockey Stick.
https://rumble.com/v23im6l-another-hockey-stick.html
I swear Francisco posted this on Nov 11… maybe I’m just getting Senile… oh well… I sure miss the… what were we talking about?
Judith Curry’s blog “Climate Etc.” is always worth a look.
She is competent, clear and credible. Her readers are well read and engage in interesting and informative debate in the comments section.
The discussions are totally uncensored. This is refreshing since most mainstream climate blogs viciously censor dissenting views. She has been at this for many years and a walk through the blog archives is always interesting and instructive.
Judith is awesome.
Ten years ago, “climate change” was the cause celebre. Everything was blamed on it, and dire predictions came thick and fast.
Now it’s “white supremacy”. Everything bad in the world is caused by “whiteness”.
Ten years from now it’ll be something else.
Our tendency to jump onto bandwagons without kicking the wheels first is the only constant.
They’re never letting go of Climate change. You see, it was caused by White people. If Greta was at all paying attention, she would hang herself out of guilt over the sins of her ancestors.
They’re not letting go of it, and they probably won’t let go of “white supremacy” either.
But you don’t hear as much about climate change these days. There’s an increasing acceptance among climatologists that the more catastrophic predictions are not occurring; the models were and are running hot. The luke warmers — like Judith Curry — are closer to the mark.
https://www.theguardian.com/science/2015/may/03/climate-change-scepticism-denial-lukewarmers
So a global warming fanatic who can’t admit he fell for the scam now calls ‘sceptics’ ‘lukewarmers’.
Typical. Can’t admit to an error so make up another term.
Why doesn’t he just call it Global Lukewarming.
Or how about this, he can call the Global Warmers liars and give himself some credibility.
You don’t hear as much about climate change these days? I sure do. It’s everywhere, its taken for granted, it’s blamed for every weather event and every non-event. When there was a heat wave last summer, it was climate change. The early winter cold snap was climate change. Now it’s slightly above normal. Yup, climate change.
The only difference in the narrative – it’s all due to heterosexual, white supremacist, Christian men.
“Save the planet, kill the people.”
I don’t remember when I started saying that. All I do remember is it felt like I was the only one saying it when I started.
Yes … now we need “climate Justice” read: reparations … because white folk created CHEAP, PLENTIFUL, PRODUCTIVE, energy to create the richest, most luxurious, lifestyle EVER on the face of the planet. So … they must be punished.
The greatest problem among activists is that both extreme poverty and poverty have dropped like a rock globally, indicating a massive improvement in quality of life. An increasing fraction of humanity has access to adequate food, clean water, housing, education, and medical care.
https://www.gapminder.org/data/documentation/epovrate/
Off topic I know, but how did you manage to post your icon in your comment?
Well spank me with a snowshoe!
Glaciers have been shrinking for more than ten thousand years. Ask these people what the ideal level of glaciation is.
I live next to GNP and am there every weekend in the summer. What GNP presently calls “Glaciers” are areas of high mountain ice/snow that never melts totally in the Summer. There are many of these and the supposed cut off is 20 acres to be be called a glacier. Alaska has glaciers, BC has glaciers meaning rivers of ice and BC and Alberta have the Columbia Ice Fields a small portion of which can be seen from the Ice Fields Parkway. That field is retreating but so what. The glaciers have been retreating since 17,000 years ago.
Glacier National Park is named for its land forms of glacier scoured mountains and U shaped valleys and finger lakes NOT for any existing little patches of snow. The Cordilleran Ice Sheet of 3000 to 5000 feet high left here for the last time around 13,000 to 14,000 years ago.
Getting tourists to GNP excited about seeing a patch of snow in August is junk science.
Where I’m sitting in Central Alberta there used to be a mile or two of glacier. Was that the right amount?
I remember the Columbia Ice Field fifty or sixty years ago. They had yearly markers at the toe of the glacier. It was very clear that the glacier was receding in days of negligible CO2 increases.
In Wisconsin the ice height was around 5,000 feet high and double that at its most thick in Canada if I recall. As a general rule the glaciers had the most ice in the center in the centers in the North and less at the southern peripheries. That is the Laurentian ice lobe. Not sure about actual ice height in the Rockies. Probably easy to look up.
I love the 15,000 tons or so of rock that is visible on the road from Black Diamond to Okotoks, AB that was carried and dumped there by a glacier with rock originating around Jasper. That thing is huge
How we got here.
Life Followed Art dept
The Icecaps Are Melting – Tiny Tim
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uAZgTKsdJsc