86 Replies to “And here’s why we need all that lithium”

  1. Sheeeet, I didn’t know we had our own EPA, CEPA ( Canadian Environmental Protection Act ).
    The madness rolls on under Hans Gruber.

    1. Don’t worry, the Liberals have found a way to stash away $2 billion for green scammers. Apparently a new crown corporation will invest in green companies.From Blacklocks:

      New Fund A Wheeler Dealer

      A new $2 billion “green” Crown corporation will be permitted to buy, sell and swap shares in other companies without public scrutiny. Finance Minister Chrystia Freeland yesterday wrote the confidentiality order into federal regulations.

      1. Hey justine ball gobbler. I see you have a little winter storm in your beloved east. ” Central Canada
        Roughly 350,000 people have been left without power in Quebec — a figure that has jumped by tens of thousands with each passing hour Friday morning. Over in Ontario, about 78,000 households have been plunged into darkness due to a power outage. ” How’s that power grid working??? Maybe you should call in the army again. , eh, biatches? Karma’s a biatch, eh?
        Bwahahahaaaa! “

    1. As I’ve said before, Canada is a Mandatory, not a Democracy. But hey, if it only saves one planet, it would have been worth it.

      1. I like my hybrid e-bike.
        500w motor on the front wheel, 66cc two-stroke driving the back wheel.
        No license, insurance, plates, no state BS.
        I sometimes wonder why I should even pay the fee to keep my license up to date, its not like I forget how to drive if I don’t pay. I’ve already given up on Canadian health care, I can’t trust them not to kill me or jab me with some mRNA. I’m a gonna die of untreated prostate cancer, no doubt.
        Oh well.

        1. E bike is fun in the snow for about 5 minutes. Then painful. Rain bad too.
          Half the year is miserable if that’s your only ride.
          Same reason I have a car instead of real motorcycle.

          2. “But it works, if you have a hint of masculinity.”

            Or, more likely, if you’ve had your license yanked. That’s who rides e-bikes in the country, in the weather. Guys with no choice.

            Chicks don’t dig the e-bike. Its not a good look.

          3. “Or, more likely, if you’ve had your license yanked.”

            Which given his frequent rants about drinking and driving laws…

          2. So you are 22.5 km from the nearest traffic light. I found simply riding a 125cc ICE motorcycle around cities was very fuel efficient. And the vehicles was always ready for action and I cold reload in seconds.

  7. there is a world wide famine happening right now, the likes of which has never been seen before, none of this matters, pure distraction

        1. Vlad: Not into trans crap.
          Shiny Pony: Pushes trans-crap.

          FO, I just lost what little respect I had left for ya.

          1. “FO, I just lost what little respect I had left for ya.”

            Phantom, I hope you will somehow manage to cope with that.

  8. When the government decides what you can and can’t have, you’ll soon find out you can’t have much of the little they do allow.
    Juthtin, Hans Gruber and the rest of the fckn pricks can call it a rose but I call it fascism.

    1. You could have a car in the Soviet Union … if you were in the politburo… and wanted a small, underpowered, square, gray car

      1. Soviet man goes to Lada dealership, asks for his issue car.
        Lada man says “car will be ready in 10 years.”
        Soviet man asks “Will that be in the morning or the afternoon?”
        Lada man says “its in 10 years, who cares?”
        Soviet man says “Plumber is coming in the morning.”

  9. Kate has mentioned many times…EVs are for millionaires.

    Everyone else can walk, or ride their bikes or take the bus.

    1. YES, and think how much more quiet and peaceful it will be.
      But seriosuly, I’ve heard numerous elite comments about how nice quiet and peaceful it was during PSYOP-19, especially the first few weeks. Rich people: Yup Teslas are very VERY popular here in Vancouver especially with the Chinese.

  10. The “plan” is not to get people into EVs. Even the looney left clingers know that they would never condone the required mining footprint but the delusion must go on until they can legislate ICE vehicles off the road after which, you will take the bus or your bike and if your social credit score is high enough and you are a party member in good standing you may be allowed an E-scooter. If you’re above serf status, ride sharing to single ownership is available based on contribution status. There will be exemptions for the trucks used to load and dispose of the dead and frozen bodies piled like cordwood beside the empty streets. They get too ripe after spring thaw. The Eloi will not be curious about the source of their green goo they happily ingest.

  11. the new target is “about making sure that Canadians have access to the vehicles they want.”

    Who is the “they” in that quote? TPTB?

    I am sure the majority want a reasonably priced, reliable car that works in the Canadian environment. For the foreseeable future that is a conventional IC vehicle.

    A few years back, I drove from the GTA to Northern Alberta, picked up a 3,000lb trailer and towed it back home using my diesel SUV. I challenge anyone with an electric one to replicate that trip, which took me a week to complete.

    1. The point is to make you -walk-, no electric vehicle will be available to try the trip. Probably take a month if you were a Liberal Party financed millionaire, Ford Lightning range drops from 200 miles to 80 with a trailer. Maybe throw a generator on that trailer.

  12. With inflation and debt and people going without food to pay for heat and hydro I am sure that vehicle sales will be booming, especially those electric inflated price vehicles. I guess if no one can afford to buy a car except the 1%, then maybe they will reach their sales ratios since they tend to be the only ones who can afford to buy the electrics in the first place. Just wait until they decide to pull the plates on gas vehicles… I expect that will be the next move.

    1. It will start with an escalation in fuel , insurance, plate costs.
      The emissions test will probably be brought back and tweaked to an impossible threshold to meet, thus getting rid of a lot of borderline vehicles.
      Yearly safety checks will probably be brought in to weed out the rust buckets or midly rusty.
      Probably a Cash for Clunkers program instituted .
      Then whats left outright ban much like todays C21 gun bill.
      Blackie will get to choose the winners and losers for shites and giggles.

      Mexico is looking better, but for how long ?

  13. “Guilbeault’s parliamentary secretary Julie Dabrusin said during Wednesday’s announcement that the new target is “about making sure that Canadians have access to the vehicles they want.””

    I don’t want an electric vehicle, because it’s impractical for me for a multitude of reasons, so will I still be able to buy the vehicle I want in 2035?

    /no of course not, big government knows better than you want you want

  14. There really isn’t much of a decision to be had.

    By mandating EV and PHEVs, they intend to alter an existing market in which to capture larger revenue streams.

    They will force many a Canadian into an EV/PHEV, and substantially more debt, by ensuring that insurance on ICEs is unaffordable thus making the alternative look more attractive.

    Game. Set. Match.

    1. Except provinces could short circuit much of this. It’s time to simply ignore the feds. Much like the U.S. government is ignoring the law when it comes to the southern border and cities ignore federal laws to become “sanctuary cities”, that whole game can be turned on its head. And it’s time to do so.

  15. ITs not about switching you from ICE to electric – its about eliminating ICE and your freedom and independence. Not everyone will be allowed to own an EV and the grid couldnt handle it even if they were.

    The whole EV/windmill/solar scam is to appear to provide and alternative to people to make it easier to lead them to and through the Great Reset and into a future of glorious indentured servitude.

    1. As was noted in an earlier SDA article, the amount of rare earth metals, cobalt, and other required elements to replace all vehicles, is impossible. The ELites do not plan on having us around, let alone letting the normies own an affordable vehicle. Get on the effin bus or ride your bike through a snowstorm peon.

      Yes, Mexico is taking on a renewed attractiveness to get away from this insanity, yet this madness will be all encompassing and inescapable no matter where you are.

  16. I don’t have the numbers or perhaps the brains to do the math but I’ve had a theory kicking around in my attic for a while.
    Ford, decided to stop making cars a while ago. Now, they only make SUVs, trucks and the Mustang. Much better margins on those products so they dropped the Focus, Festiva and whatever else they used to make.

    I wonder if the long term plan for all the auto makers might be to reduce overall numbers sold but make a lot more money on the remaining models? Today, electric and hybrid cars don’t make money and the input costs are only going to go up but what happens when the total number of cars sold and on the road drops by 90%? Can they boost the price on the remaining sales enough to offset the reduction in volume? Think of all the savings at their end. The service parts, inventory, administration costs, cost of labour to build them, millions of square feet of production space, all reduced because the market distills down to a fraction of the current size.

    I’m no conspiracy theory guy but you don’t have to have to collude to travel in the same direction. Isn’t all business ultimately about earning the most money for the least amount of outlay? Making a billion dollars selling a million cars is a lot harder than making a billion dollars selling 100,000 cars.

    I hope I’m wrong but I wouldn’t be surprised if the idea that our idiot government’s plan to take away our ability to drive by making cars unaffordable for 90% of current buyers isn’t entirely embraced by all the major brands.

    On a different line of thought, many markets have been trying to work towards a subscription based model? Why wouldn’t the major brands want that? Fewer owners to deal with and no rights when the car you bought turned out to be lemon. Just hand it back and they give you a different one from the fleet. You never owned it so don’t get attached to it. A model turns out to be unexpectedly popular? Raise the monthly price and if the current subscriber refuses to pay the new price, take it back for service and reassign it to someone who is willing to pay the higher “market adjusted” rate. Income for ever. Payments never end because you don’t own it. Crush the old models when they become too expensive to fix so they never get into the hands of private owners.

    1. As our Dear WEF leader is fond of saying ” you will own nothing “, in the future you will be renting everything you need.

  17. Serious problems with EVs are range and performance in cold weather. Neither helps the rural Canadian. Instead of developing more efficient technology, instead of making smaller, lighter vehicles, manufacturers are developing bigger batteries. This is like making cars with bigger gas tanks. Over the next decade it will interesting to see how the electrical grid handles all those Ford F-150 Lightnings and their 135 kV batteries, regardless of whether they ever make it out of the driveway.

      1. But it comes with a free house. Tell me I get a free house for $2,600/mn. Mind you a new 2023 GMC 2500 HD lists for $110,000. You could buy a 2020 fully loaded for $87,000. That’s 8% per year for 3 years.

  18. “Guilbeault’s parliamentary secretary Julie Dabrusin said during Wednesday’s announcement that the new target is “about making sure that Canadians have access to the vehicles they want.””

    Loathsome creature. And the UnMes and Hihos on their ebikes with high efficiency didlos installed in the seat are perfectly fine with that.

    1. You like watching Russians suffer. I like watching YOU suffer.
      Oh, and I also use a two-stroke engine, and I’ll probably get a Chinese diesel heater soon, and laugh at you aholes who want to freeze in the dark because of your ideology.
      Oh, and the Uke troops are being treated worse than the French were on the old Maginot Line, and they are pissed. I’ve watched vids of them saying that Zelensky should pray the Russians get him before they do.

      1. Apart for Siberia Mongol mongrels at the front lines and in barracks (tents) none is freezing in the dark. Just like all those Euros aren’t freezing in the dark either. Just like orcs haven’t made any progress since the second month of the war. But hey, keep hoping while hopping on your ebike without the seat.

        1. The difference between you and I:

          I think Ukes are people, and I think Russians are people, all endowed by their creator with inalienable rights.

          You think some people are sub-humans, and have zero problem with violating said inalienable rights, based on their nationality, kinda like Hitler did.

          You are pure scum.

          1. This is exactly this kind of demagogy why you’re below dogshit. You think that Ukrainians are people and yet you rejoice when they are slaughtered, raped, tortured and have their children kidnapped by the Siberian horde.
            And I don’t think people are subhumans, subhumans are subhuman, you for example…

  19. Cara Clairman, president and CEO of Plug’n Drive, a non-profit organization that encourages electric vehicle use, said the toughest part of promoting the change from gas-powered vehicles is availability.

    Bullshit. Show me the waiting lists for EVERY e-car mfr. There aren’t any. GM can’t give their Bolts away. And screwing with the Free Market by MANDATING the manufacture of e-cars doesn’t change the fact that MOST people don’t want these contraptions.

    This entire law is built on the ONE LIE published above. One LIE screws with our entire efficient … civilized … mode of transportation and work

  20. Cold air is dense.

    When it intrudes on warm-air masses it produces blizzards, but once it’s established the wind stops blowing and the blades stop turning. Just when we need it most, wind power quits on us.

        2. Say it slow, toots:
          Eye-So-Bar.
          AKA differences in pressure that determine wind speed and direction.
          You are an idiot, big surprise.

          1. You’re actually Hillary aren’t you? Macedonian bot farmers, right? That sounds more “exotic” eh?

        1. You have obviously not studied meteorology. I, in my Commercial flight training, had to learn all this stuff, and isobars have everything to do with wind. Everything. I had to learn even more of this for the instrument flight ticket. There are thick textbooks on this stuff that commercial pilots have to know, since they are flying through all sorts of weather and wind and various air densities.

          If there are no isobars there is no pressure gradient, and without pressure gradient there is no wind.

          1. The pressure gradient is a necessary part of wind velocity, but is not EVERYTHING.

            There are some equations that relate only pressure gradient and wind velocity, but those are simplifications designed for normal air densities. They give inaccurate results in extreme air densities (in either direction).

  21. Brian, you are wayyyyy behind here both on EV adoption, solar technology cost and deployment and battery storage cost and technology. Nothing wrong with lots of solar and natural gas back up. My fiancé works in natural gas industry and trust me, this is how they are thinking now.

    We already went through this with you with sodium vs lithium. I hope you did your reading. But I doubt it.

    I’ve been driving my Tesla Model Y in the -34 with no issues. None!

    You would be the guy poo poooing computers back in the 60s and 70s. And you would have missed out on that enormous opportunity.

    2. FOAD. Nobody took away typewriters from people and forced computers on them in the 60s and 70s. They coexisted until early 90s when computers were mature tech and people no longer seen use for typewriters. You want to take away people’s cars and replace them with gay useless toasters on wheels. Your Tesla is an overpriced despite subsidies, piece of excrement that you have bought to virtue signal. It is useless for anyone who relies on their car for more than a trip from their condo to their corpo tower. And you do so subsidized by taxpayers while they struggle with increasing cost of preferred superior transportation. I truly hope someone will put a brick through your windshield while you drive.

  22. It is interesting that Justin is mandating dates by which particular percentages of new car sales will be electric with penalties assessed to vendors if they don’t meet his targets. Apparently he has forgotten about both consumer choice and infrastructure readiness for the drain on electrical grids. The man is delusional. He thinks he need only snap his fingers and we will all leap to fulfill his command. Perhaps we will begin to resemble Cuba where all the old cars are wired together to keep them running. Hopefully he will be long gone before that happens! Even some of the most ardent climatologists are starting to abandon ship questioning what we can realistically expect in actual warming and the real impact. We are better served by adaptation rather than panic and fear. Think back over a few years and ask yourself how many panic stricken climate target dates have we already survived? Manhattan is not under water, statistics show no more aberrant weather events or fires that can ‘honestly’ be attributed to global warming. People are not standing on the beach as the water to creeps up and drowns them. They are adapting as we always have.

  23. L – De-industrialization requires a Canada of pedal powered peasants like China 1970s.
    The mayor of Edmonton’s plan differs from Premier Danielle Smith’s on energy sources.
    NDP ridings could become 2 wheeler constituencies, achieving the promised worker’s
    paradise of the Cultural Revolution, and province wide, if voters go NDP in 7 months.
    ————————————————————————————————————–
    Edmonton “blowing” $100 million on bike lanes, says taxpayer watchdog
    December 21, 2022

    “(Mayor)Sohi said the cycling infrastructure contributes to the city’s climate change goals. Edmonton declared a climate emergency in 2019. 

    “If we don’t (invest), we will not be able to build a city that is *net-zero by 2050,”…
    https://tnc.news/2022/12/21/edmonton-bike-lanes/

    *(net zero may also describe the economy then, also.)

  24. Mandates inevitably mean price discounts, possibly to the point of selling at a loss. If consumers actually wanted EVs in those numbers, they’d already be buying them.

    No automaker is going to sell at a loss. They will threaten to withdraw from the market, at which time taxpayers will be mandated to cover more EV losses than they presently are.

    1. Time to start investing in used car dealerships and repair garages and replacement auto parts manufacturers

      1. It won’t matter , the insurance companies , via .gov mandates, will price people out of the market.
        There are so many ways to force people out of their ice vehicles its ridiculous.
        If you really want to continue driving you/we have to stop them , hint, it ain’t at the voting booth.

  25. Notice they are targeting the auto makers and not us directly, yet.. So, its going to to be X amount of highly overpriced desirable cars and made to order EVs.. Do we even have the surplus affordable dependable power?.. Infrastructure ready?.. That would be a no..

    They are not doing the math and I’m not going to sweat it.. Bring the pain because thats the only thing thats going to wake people up..

    1. “Bring the pain because that’s the only thing that’s going to wake people up.”

      Exactly. I’m willing to pay more for heat this winter, and to put up with more than the usual inconvenience, and to suffer more than the usual amount of arthritis pain, if it will cause enough pain and expense to awaken people to the great climate fraud.

      1. Until the great unwashed experience the pain of real hunger , it ain’t gonna happen.
        We have a long way to go.

  26. FWIW. Saw an ev in the shopping mall today getting picked up because the battery was flat. Owner said that he thought he had enough juice to get to the store and back again. Problem was at minus 5 he used more juice to heat the cabin than he would have used to get back and forth to the supermarket on a regular day. Now picture the parking lot with a flatbed in the middle of the parking lot trying to load this ev and everyone around trying to get into the supermarket. Made a really great impression to a lot of drivers about buying an ev. Probably spent too much time in slow moving traffic because of weather conditions than he normally would have and the battery meter isn’t as exact as a fuel gauge.

  27. “And here’s why we need all that lithium”

    “And here’s why we’ll all need lithium”

    A double entendre is a terrible thing to waste.

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