36 Replies to “Why Ruin A National Story With Facts”

  1. Trudeau: ‘Quick, pay out Billions before real facts come to light.’
    Gotta look good for my paid media fan-club.

    Canadian economy…row, row, row the Titanic on the river heading for a hard cliff drop.

  2. Do you honestly think?.. That native children were shipped off to boarding schools to be exterminated?.. If that was your goal you could have simply “let them be” where they were and washed your hands of the whole ordeal..

    This game.. This political game.. Where native culture stands in for deceased boarding school children is a mistake.. Yes, native culture was destroyed.. No their children were not murdered by the state or Catholic church.. Infant mortality was quite high until around the 1960s..

    I have uncles and aunts who died when they were children.. They were born in the late 1920s and the 1930s.. I don’t remember their names and if they have a grave its unmarked..

    No hard feelings..

    1. John:

      If there are remains we can do genetic testing to determine who, if anyone, is buried there. There will be those who want to declare the Kamloops location a sacred burial site that cannot be disturbed by the genocidal settlers.

      1. Yeppers. They won’t want to let that cat out of the bag any more than they want to get DNA tested on the offside chance that their claim of “First Nations” status is proven wrong.

      2. As chiefs said, the graves were not a secret.

        This is because they know who is buried there.

        This should never have been the “scandal” the bribed press made it out to be.

    2. Those pushing this BS are very well aware that way too many sheeple cannot put two-and-two together. If the MSM newscast or documentary says that is the truth then it is so. Too many cannot stop and say, “Hey! Wait just a minute here.”

    3. The Canadian prairies are littered with hundreds of small town and country cemeteries with literally thousands of unmarked graves. Wooden crosses and markers were long ago consumed by grass fires, never to be replaced. The others, now more than 100 years old, simply rotted away. The fact is, these early pioneers didn’t have two cents to rub together, let alone purchase a durable, fireproof granite memorial. My Dad grew up in rural SE Saskatchewan and he used to tell me that he and his family were always attending funerals for young children. Be it disease, drownings, farming accidents, etc, death was just another day for them. Early church doctrines also didn’t permit unbaptised children be buried amoung the rest of the congregation in the church cemetery. It was very common that these children be buried along the edge of the cemetery, typically outside the fence and these graves were rarely, if ever marked. Dad also told me that wooden apple and orange crates were in high demand in the 1930’s and 40’s, because they were the perfect size to bury a baby in. The pioneers around the turn of the century were certainly not living in the lap of luxury. To many they lived in a hole dug in a bank of earth, dirt floor and zero modern conveniences. Dad remembers being hungry as a child. When he started school, he couldn’t speak a word of English as Ukrainian was taught in the home. Did he ever complain his culture was stolen from him? Nope. There were no medicines or hospitals in the immediate area for them, just like the natives. Seems like a level playing field. No parade, no pre-hockey game “acknowledgments” or federal commissions for these bohunks for they lived under the addage of “work hard or starve.” Why the kid gloves for the aboriginal industry? Why is it that the rest of society (aside from the French and of course, the Muzzies) is quite content with practicing their own culture on their own time and on their own dime? Unmarked graves? Meh, no biggie for me. I’m inclined to be more upset with the families not maintaining the graves of their so-called loved ones than I am of any church or government. Fast forward 100 years: the church built on the homestead of my great grandfather errected a small, plain concrete monument with volunteer labor. On it they installed small brass nameplates (for around 5 bucks a pop) for the members to add the name of a loved one, usually a child, buried somewhere in the cemetery. Funny, but if their skin colour was a different shade, it would be classed as a “genocide” memorial. As an aside, how exactly do you “steal” land from people who were nomadic?

      1. Few years back we had the opportunity to visit the ghost town in Bannack State Park in Montana. Stopped at the cemetary on the way out. The lion’s share of remaining headstones were of children, most of whom were less than a year old. Date stamps were mostly late 1800’s. Tough times for everybody, especially kids.

        Your observations about your Dad resonate here, as well. Same situation, rural Saskatchewan upbringing, only spoke Ukrainian starting grade 1 (Which is why he never taught us kids. Didn’t want us to get teased like he was). Born in a dirt shack, along with 8 siblings, two of which who died at birth. No idea where they were buried. Figgered they lived in the lap of luxury ’cause they had a milk cow that could furnish them with butter on their home-made bread, unlike some of the neighbours who could only afford lard.

        1. Dad taught us kids some Ukrainian when we were younger, 50 plus years ago, but it in end I’m sure he asked himself what’s the point. Now I’m hell bent on learning it! This summer, covid and Putin notwithstanding, I will be visiting the villages of my 2 sets of Ukrainian Great Grandparents. Thanks to electrons sent out from my keyboard, I’ve found numerous relatives there and have been communicating with them for the last 5 years. My (refundable) plane tickets have been purchased!

          Not to go too far off topic, but the dignity and modesty of the modern day Ukrainians is something that should be copied here in the west. But I’m afraid we’ve all become fat, lazy and self-loathing.
          One only need compare the Facebook and Instagram postings of early 20’s Canadian women versus that of Ukrainian women of the same age. Canadian females social media is chock full of drunken party pictures, dick jokes and scantily clad vacation photos, tatoos, piercings and childish memes about their recurring drunkeness (like it’s a virtue), while my Ukrainian cousins photos look like they’re all posing as high end fashion models with posts about their families, faith, education and hope for the future. The contrast is quite stark.

          Currently I’m writing a book about the Ukrainian immigrants to SK, focussing on the area NW of Yorkton both sets of my Great Grandparents homesteaded. (It’s a very niche subject, so outside of a few relatives who might be interested, it will be a small batch of books) There will be some general history but also a focus on several long-dead relatives who despite being illiterate and never uttered a word of English, led remarkable yet simple lives after leaving the serdom and despair of early 1900’s western Ukraine. (Austro-Hungary/Eastern Galicia)

          1. “NW of Yorkton”

            Wow! Small world. Reasonably familiar with the area. Heard of Rama? My paternal grandparents homesteaded near there, as well as a great uncle.

        2. First off, apologies to Kate as this is seriously off topic.

          Prepare to have your mind blown, Biker…..my father was born at home in 1937, one mile SW of Rama! They left for Alberta in 1946. Still have tons of relatives living there from both sets of grandparents. For privacy sake, I’ll forgo leaving my email address (Wish there was a private chat function so we can take this conversation ingognito), but as a teaser, the church I mentioned is about 8 miles SE of Rama. (Bellenden-Kyziv) While the land is no longer in the family, it was my Great Grandfather’s homestead. I’ve been working on my family history for 7 years now. There were at least 15 families that settled in Rama, all from the same village in Ukraine. My family tree is pretty much a family tree for a good portion of the RM, so I wouldn’t be surprised if your name is on it!) Cheers!

  3. Just what we needed: more evidence that we are living in a childishly irrational country.

  4. Some folks get off on emoting mawkish “empathy”. If only they had the same compassion for all the children, or young parents, who have died of disease, famine, and violence throughout human history whether it was in the Americas, or Asia, or Africa. They are priggish, pompous, parochial, pretentious, ethnocentric, obsessive, infantilized, self-absorbed and self-serving with some sort of pathological and imaginary hero complex.

    1. I don’t think there is much historical awareness of the numbers of orphaned and homeless children, many of whom were immigrants, that existed in this time frame. In the USA, well meaning people distributed children across the USA on “orphan trains”. Many were left to the streets in addition to those in orphanages.
      “Between 1854 and 1929 the United States was engaged in an ambitious, and ultimately controversial, social experiment to rescue poor and homeless children, the Orphan Train Movement. The Orphan Trains operated prior to the federal government’s involvement in child protection and child welfare. While they operated, Orphan Trains moved approximately 200,000 children from cities like New York and Boston to the American West to be adopted. ”

      https://socialwelfare.library.vcu.edu/programs/child-welfarechild-labor/orphan-trains/

    2. My dear Exasperated, moral posturing can’t happen if one knows the facts or works to alleviate social ills.

      Getting one’s hands dirty? Oh, no! That simply will not do.

  5. I was going to comment on the poor coverage of ground penetrating radar (GPR) which people think gives an x-ray like picture of the sub-surface. It is a very difficult method to interpret and requires great skill and caution. From the comments section…

    And further: “According to another anthropologist, Scott Hamilton, who has worked on residential school cemeteries for the TRC between 2013-2015, one must be very careful with the use of ground-penetrating radar because the soil may have been disturbed over the years by “sedimentary texture, … culturally-derived unconformities, obstructions or voids.” ”

    I would only add that anthropologists are not geophysicists. I doubt they are running the GPR systems directly and I expect they are just getting the interpretations from the contractor. A contractor would NEVER suggest 200 bodies under the surface. They may interpret over 200 disturbances. What this means is anyone’s guess. The usual next step would be to dig up one of the disturbances to see what it could be and to group “like” disturbances together. I’m not saying the remains aren’t there.

    1. In our current selfie culture, where pictures and videos are the “news currency” … is no one surprised that we’ve never SEEN a PICTURE of what the radar “found”? Where are the radar images? The answer is obvious. If the general public actually SAW what the radar SAW … they’d be laughing (not crying) at this entire story and narrative.

      I demand that we are given the 215 (and more) ACUAL IMAGES from the ground penetrating radar.

      https://www.researchgate.net/profile/Ghassan-Alsulaimani/publication/309565286/figure/fig10/AS:423325575979016@1477940090467/Shows-Ground-Penetrating-Radar-2D-Data-Processed-Across-Pulaski-County-Poor-Farm.png

      1. Kenji:
        Here is the full research report for the Pulaski County Poor Farm survey.

        https://scholarsmine.mst.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=6023&context=masters_theses

        Check out Figure 7.1.

        Over half of the graves were identified based on depressions in the ground, attributed to rotting coffins and a resulting collapse. I bet many of the GPR anomalies have more to do with geometry than response, meaning if you know how the graves are spaced, you can go looking for an anomaly where a grave should be. But let’s keep that one a secret.

  6. The residential schools were a misguided attempt to help the Indian, which has mostly demonstrated that it was a rare Indian worth trying to help in the first place.

    Long-term solutions to the Indian problem were on offer that would have been far cheaper and caused far fewer headaches.

    Our masters only ever saw such solutions as appropriate for Jews, who threatened to compete for the places at the University of Toronto and McGill reserved for the masters’ imbecile heirs. Their only real regret concerning the Holocaust was not thinking of it first.

    1. “The residential schools were a misguided attempt to help the Indian”

      Bullshit. Indians didn’t necessarily spend much time on reserves. When I was a young pup, farmers would hire them to pick roots or rocks. Saskatchewan reserves would empty to hoe sugar beets in southern Alberta. They would hunt and trap on public land before traplines were assigned. (In the 1940s traplines were assigned while my father was getting shot up by Germans. Kind of pissed him off to put it mildly) Indians worked their asses off. They did not sit on the reserve and draw welfare. The only way to educate the kids were residential schools. There was no grand scheme to steal their culture but education was in English or French and Christianity was a big factor.

      I know a couple Residential school thrivers. When this stuff started coming out one said something negative and I asked her about it and she said her father sent her and she had no serious complaints. The residential school was all of a mile from her home on the reserve. The other one I knew was orphaned and placed in the school at St. Albert. His experience wasn’t unusually bad, at least what he told me, but he joined a class action for some cash action. Parents placed most kids in residential schools. Child welfare authorities would place orphans and child apprehensions in residential schools.

      1. If the Residential Schools … and white culture … was so horrific for the native peoples … then how would you describe the push to send native Canadians to college? Huh? So “college” isn’t a white man construct? Are colleges so far leftist that they’ve lost all hints of their “white man” construct?

        Any college that recruits Natives is no better (or worse) than the Residential Schools.

    2. Of course Jews creating their own universities was out of the question. Our real universities, which existed before the government took them over were overwhelmingly created by religious sects. The Jews could have done the same.

      1. They tried. In the United States there are several historically Jewish universities—not counting those in Israel.

        Explain to me why by contrast there are no Chinese universities in North America.

  7. Excellent link to the Dorchester Review in BK article! New to me.
    I saw another article on it from Marke Milke with an excerpt from his Dec, 2021, book,
    “The Victim Cult”, which I promptly bought. Apparently old lady dogs can learn new things.

  8. Her antagonists are particularly enraged by her needling trope “race hustler” to describe “a self-proclaimed spokesperson for a particular racial identity during a perceived incident of racial tension, so that the individual can exploit the situation to serve their own interests.”

    There’s the problem right there.
    They believe it because they want to.

    I can imagine in my fertile imagination that at the very moment the words “unmarked graves” where uttered the call went out:

    “Media publish your undated pre-written screeds”
    “Educators invoke the CRT”
    “Rentamob unleash the provided hashtags hastily written on bristolboard”
    “Pundits man your bullhorns demanding Justice.”
    “Politicians issue your tweets with the approved text an a crass effort to get in front of this parade”
    “And finally race hustlers put on your sack cloth and ashes and emote with your practiced accents about reconciliation (aka the big shakedown”

    Me “ has anyone done a forensic analysis of even one of the identified sites”?
    Them “RACIST!!!!!”

  9. All of this idiocy brought to you by white liberals. The first mistake was feeling sorry for them and releasing them from the insane asylums.

  10. I have done a lot of research using census, government records, newspaper archives etc. It is brain dead simple. For a pittance of a few million, every Indian should be able to be tracked as to when they were born, where they lived, and where and when they died. There are a lot of records from 1870 onward. There was a very good website that tracked most known Alberta Indians in the 19th Century. Unfortunately the guy died and the site is gone. Censuses are every 10 years since 1851. Alberta, Saskatchewan, and Manitoba had extra 1906, 1916, 1926, 1936, 1946 censuses. The complete country has censuses every 5 years since 1951. Five year censuses should capture every reserve kid who lived past 5 years of age. Indians living off reserves in the bush likely aren’t captured but some likely are. Every kid who died at a residential school likely shows up on a death certificate and church burial register. Some families would have to be followed through several censuses through some lack of surnames. Documents show a lot of names such as Moses Cree. This will never be done because it will destroy the narrative.

  11. Bottom line.

    The Indian Industry is the greatest money milking scam ever perpetuated by Anyone on the planet. Run by Liberals and benefiting their sycophants.

    Give them an ultimatum – you get 5 yrs of cash. Upon its expiry, You all own the land you reside on, a Canadian certificate of Citizenship, a Passport and call a day.

    You get to enjoy all the freedoms and Obligations of any other Canadian Citizen.

    Done Deal, An instant recovery of the ~30 Billion/Year we piss away.

    Now Fuck off with your incessant demands. We’re done with ya.

    Have at er Justin…

  12. A preliminary report did not find bodies, but rather soil disruptions in a nearby apple orchard.

    SDA gets results. I’ve been bleating since day one that GPR can’t detect what they say it detected, and the promised “followup scans” were never performed.

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