And we’re not buying them: Despite all the hype & subsidies for the last decade over them, battery electric vehicles made up barely over 3% of auto sales in Canada at the start of the year.
And we’re not buying them: Despite all the hype & subsidies for the last decade over them, battery electric vehicles made up barely over 3% of auto sales in Canada at the start of the year.
Question. Is there enough rare earth minerals in China to support all the batteries we will need and further, where will all the old batteries go?
Jeff.
Good question. I suspect the answer is: No. And rest assured the gang greens will oppose any new mines.
A mistake the public makes is that we’ll all be driving electric cars. No we won’t.
A) There’s not enough battery material to provide EVs for everyone.
B). Battery disposal would be a big issue.
C. Massive upgrades to the electric distribution system would be required.
D. There’s not enough space to build the wind and solar generation to heat homes and charge EVs. Remember battery back up would be required for days when the sun isn’t shining and the wind isn’t blowing.
The real plan?
1. Replace privately owned vehicles with public transit.
2. All new refrigerators to be the small bar sized ones.
3. Rationing electricity using smart meters. Better get used to clotheslines.
Oh and don’t forget; the Biden administration may take over all bank accounts.
As I have said many times. Unfortunately your question is irrelevant. You and me will not be permitted to own personal transportation. Only elite liberals will have cars, given to them for free so that they can oversee us peasants.
I like my car to start in winter and my heat to work. When an electric does both of those and I can drive to Kamloops without taking a 2 hour pit stop to recharge you let me know.
Biden and Trudeau would say you don’t need to drive to Kamloops. Travel permit please.
You have hit the nail on the head. Your superiors do not want you to be mobile. You can get ideas and become difficult to control.
I’ve mentioned this to easterners many times. In the winter, hundreds of Calgary/Red Deer/Edmontonians drive out to Invermere every Friday afternoon. When it’s cold out, virtually every electric out there has to top-up in Canmore in order to assure a safe arrival in Invermere. That adds a 20 minute stop, even for Calgarians, when the Escalade/Navigator/Grand Cherokee can go the distance in one pull. They don’t get it, partly because they live several hundred miles south of us.
2.2% in the USA …
https://www.chargedfuture.com/us-electric-car-sales-in-2020/
Yet, it appears as though every 5th vehicle is a Tesla in my upper, upper middle class SF Bay Area suburb … where folks can afford to signal their automotive virtue.
PS … the effective freeway speed limit in the Bay Area is 80mph. So, please! Tesla drivers! Get OUT of the left lanes plodding along at 60mph. I know you have range anxiety, and your Tesla burns through the battery at a frightening clip if you actually drive at 80mph. That’s fine. But Please! In the interest of SAFETY (and the CA Basic Speed Law, which demands “Slower Traffic Keep Right”) … please stay OUT of the Left Lane.
Photo radar could also apply to subspeeeders if the will was there.
“please stay OUT of the Left Lane”
It’s just one more example of the magical thinking and magical world these people inhabit much like what we hear when they tell us ICE cars are on their way out.
Blocking the left lane is an attempt to limit your speed, because we all know slower speed equals less fuel used equals less harm to the planet. That’s how dangerously stupid these people really are.
That’s right up there with the veggie burgers.
The only way leftists can make us all drive electric cars is by making gasoline illegal or making the cost of gasoline so high that no one will be able to afford it.
97 % of the population dont want electric cars and the 3 % that have bought electric cars, about half of them say in survey they did not like it and their next car will be a good old gasoline car.
Leftists can only make people agree with them by either lying, deceiving, cheating or coercing.
That is how the left managed to teach kids to hate the white race ( critical race theory ) by hiding it from parents
that is how the left managed to teach kids that sucking d*cks and anal sex is fine , hiding it from parents
by lying and deceiving parents and now using the FBI and calling parents terrorist and scaring them into submission ( coercion )
same with vaccines; only the threat of losing jobs or being fined insane amounts of money makes people go for the vaccine
lying, deceiving, cheating and coercion, that is how leftism is kept alive.
We need to go nuclear on power generation. If electricity is cheap enough, people will buy electric vehicles. I’m quite a hard core diesel vehicle driver, but I might consider a hybrid in the future.
“If electricity is cheap enough, people will buy electric vehicles”
Hmmm… no. People MIGHT buy electric vehicles, but only as a second car to pick up the kids and run down the shops and back.
The core problem with EVs is I can fuel up my diesel ICE car in about 10 minutes and that includes staring at the fridge wondering if I want to buy a drink and writing up the numbers in my little log book. Then I am free to drive another 950km before I am forced to do it again.
Do the same thing with an EV? No.
Also with an ICE vehicle I am pretty sure that after 6 years ownership I wont have to consider changing out the fuel tank.
There is a market for EVs. A small market. There is actually a case that having your emissions being produced out in the factory/industrial districts is better than making them outside your kid’s school, but do not be fooled that you are saving the planet.
Last Saturday the wife and I drove to my son’s home 110km away across mostly empty prairie to babysit my grandsons. The road was slick packed snow/ice and the visibility was under 1 km, temperature -7C, -16C with the windchill, and stiff crosswind. Not a problem in my F150 with the four wheel drive on and the heater blasting. I used just under 1/4 of a tank there and back. Tell me some stupid electric car could do that and I might consider it.
Justin, I still wouldn’t consider it, even if they tripled the EV range. When you drill down far enough, it’s all part of the Green/NWO/WEF plans. The cost to mine and produce the battery material, including the required basic energy to create and produce an EV, or stinking giant fans, and solar panels for that matter, is far in excess of what they save. Add to that the inability to do anything but dump em in a landfill at the end of their useless life, makes them a worse planetary pollution than any ICE vehicle. Another thing, is even if you could replace the battery on an EV (you can’t, and they don’t want you to either) the cost, including labor to switch to the new battery, would be about the same, or perhaps more, than a new replacement vehicle anyway. It’s all a scam to create the new techno feudalism, and it only works on LIV’s, Greenie morons, and the stupids. But you knew that, didn’t you!
I understand why an EV isn’t the answer for many people. We didn’t have as many -30 days when I lived in Ottawa as they do in Lloydminster, but four days in a row at -30 is the same everywhere, and my car needed a battery blanket and a block heater just to turn over on those cold Kanata mornings.
But in downtown TO, that isn’t a problem. And 90% of my trips are 200km or less, roundtrip. Since the battery would rarely go below 50%, charging it home on a 240v circuit won’t be a problem. So for me, and many others like me, these cars are increasingly making sense. If we had the parking space – that’s a big city problem – I’d like to have an EV for most trips, and a gas vehicle as an occasional second vehicle in the city, and for longer trips out of town. If we move to our desired lake, we would probably end up with that set up.
I studied electrical engineering at university. There are no practical reasons other than ability to operate in colder climes, and extended range of gas engines to prefer them to electric motors. Highly efficient, great power/weight ratio, no emissions, no power band – electrics have it all over ICE’s. Extended battery range and more recharging stations are changing the equation, as they minimize some objections. Much as I hate to say it, the increased, and ever-to-be increased gas, er, sorry, carbon taxes will make the economic equation tilt more in favour of electrics as well.
If I were forced to change to an electric, I would simply alter the way I travel. My biggest trip is Toronto to Lake Champlain most years, at 700km beyond the range of most electrics. In fact, I usually stop for gas as well, a process that takes about 10-15 minutes from the time I get off the highway till the time I get back on. On a really great day, I can go door to door in 6 hours.
In an e-car, I’d simply decide to pull off at Belleville or maybe Rockport, and park the car at a charging station, and actually *see* Belleville, instead of driving through it on the 401, or just visiting the fast food strip off the highway. Instead of racing to get off the highway as fast as I could, I’d do some actually travelling, choosing a different place to stop and top up each time.
I love gas cars. I loved driving manuals, especially under-powered rice burners or “secret racers” as my friends called them. It was a secret to everyone but you that you were actually racing them. You had to really work the gear box just to keep up with traffic. I don’t begrudge anyone a gas car. But I wish people would just stop hating on EV’s. They are perfectly fine vehicles for a large number of people.