154 Replies to “Amateur Hour”

  2. Harper won on issues. Conservative issues. He didn’t win because he moved far left. He lost because he started to suck Quebec off.

    2. Harper lost because the media ran a smear job on him and the Conservatives for an entire year over Mike Duffy. The media in this country is AIDS. Not HIV+, full blown fucking AIDS.

  3. There are lots of comments on this site that observed how unpopular Junior is. The reply, however, was always “my sister-in-law thinks he’s a dream boat”. Well, fickleness thy name is woman.

    Only a self-absorbed moron like Trudeau would think his “charisma” would win him a majority. The old man would at least from time to take take some counsel from politicos who knew more than he did. Not so with Junior. I still think he’ll hold on to power. Maybe he’ll only get the second highest number of seats in the HoC. I can see him whipping up some bogus pretext of a “national emergency government”.

    This country is really going to suffer. But the elites will do just fine, I’m certain of that.

    1. I love your comment “But the elites will do just fine, I’m certain of that.”

      I totally agree with you. While channel surfing last night, caught glimpses of the Emmy’s and did not see any masks being worn in the segments I saw. As well, at the big movie festival just ended in Venice, the attention was on the clothes which the men and women wore rather than on the following of mask protocol which only the “little people” have to follow.

  4. What I actually said, the other evening: you’d rather have a Liberal government than a Conservative government. Good for you!

    2. “How about just a normal glass of water instead?”

      Says a guy handing you a bottle of urine spiked with ketamine.

  5. All you PPC fellaters will get exactly what you desire. A majority liberal government. Choke on it, morons. You’re just as responsible for this country’s destruction as the progtards. I can’t wait for Alberta and Saskatchewan to become wholly owned Chinese territory.

    1. We tried to warn the conservatives, and they didn’t listen. They never listen.

      Perhaps O’Toole will pull this out of the fire. Perhaps not. But don’t shoot the messengers.

      2. Exactly Kate.
        CPC has to wear this.
        They lost me last election when Sheer shunned Dr Salim Mansur…just to cater to lefty media.

      3. Let’s be real, shall we: there ain’t nobody in rural/suburban Ontario who ain’t on Western Canada’s team. Plus, quite a bit more, actually (polite discussion off-line to follow, as you well know).

        Just sayin’ — now can we just win an election, please?

        David

      4. He isn’t shooting the messenger Kate, he is correctly shooting idiots who are working hard on handing this country to Trudeau. Idiots who in this very thread explain how they are happy with Trudeau victory.

        1. This country is dogmeat already. I’m proud of my vote of conscience. I’m proud of my PPC vote.

          If you really think that the Tool would have made things any better, then you haven’t been paying attention.

        2. Indifferent, isn’t happy. Sooner or later you have to have the courage to accept Canadians just haven’t got it good and hard yet.
          Wasn’t you wasn’t me…… it’s their own fault.
          Forget history and you repeat it.
          Maybe we are getting a front row seat and get to watch it happen ?
          Politics just might not be able to stop what’s been set in motion long ago ?
          Just a thought, but it seems like it.

        3. My riding is in downtown Toronto. CPC or PPC have no chance. Should I vote for the NDP just to get rid of Trudeau? No, I can’t do that. My conscience won’t let me.

          O’Toole’s “Conservatives” have nothing to do with me. It’s awfully cynical of him to take his base for granted and run from the left. It’s idiots like you, who will vote for him no matter what. He needs to be punished. Get our own house in order first. It’s a big task fighting the leftists, we can’t have enemies in our own camp.

          1. “Should I vote for the NDP just to get rid of Trudeau? No, I can’t do that. My conscience won’t let me.”

            Yes of course you should. No question about it. Does your conscience allows you to stand by and let Little Fidel win?
            There is no “our house” or their house. There is a whorehouse and they are all in it. As for getting CPC cleaned up, I kept trying until they elected O’Toole. Then I gave up (until the next leadership vote at least). Were you trying too?
            Didn’t think so.
            Right now the only question is “Little Fidel yay or nay?”. And that’s an important question.

    2. What we desire is a Trudeau minority and another election in 18 months, an election in which PPC cannot be ignored because of their incredible showing this time out with zero MSM coverage. Oh, and to send a message to that turncoat globalist “controlled opposition” O’Toole that his liberal policies don’t cut it. It will be great to see when the short pants at CPC HQ count up the votes and realize they lost more to PPC than they gained from LPC. Hopefully they realize what an absolute F Up their current platform is.

      And you, “Tired of Idiots” get counted among the short pants.

      1. Yes of course Maxipads desire Trudeau government. We know that. The rest of your post is just low IQ rationalizing. Your “incredible showing” will probably not exceed 6%. You’re Trudeau’s bitches. When he is done, you will not even get a reacharound. Just like the last time.

        1. Have you been taking your valium??? Just concerned over the state of your mental health.

          Relax already. Nothng’s going to change for better or for worse.

          1. We’re worse off now than two years ago and two years ago we were worse off than six years ago. Yes, things are changing for the worse. And it will get much worse and much faster. The only ones for whom things haven’t hanged are losers who were equal failures now and tow or six years ago. The rest of us are worse off.

          2. I will concede one point to Colonialista… Things will probably get worse faster with the Turd in charge, but regardless of whether you drink coke or pepsi, things will get worse either way. The only difference is how fast things will deteriorate.

            I for one don’t really care. We’re not that far off from rock-bottom as it is, so it doesn’t matter to me how fast we get there. The splat is going to be just as widespread.

          3. I grew up under communism, I know how bad it can get, much much worse. Elect Little Fidel and you might well find out.
            Just consider this: for the most part those running against Chavez weren’t great thinkers or conservative libertarians either.

          4. I know others who have also experienced communism first-hand, and although I can’t share their experience, I can tell you that I can empathize. There is no one more afraid of what is coming than I am.
            Having said that, I am convinced that there is some kind of cabal going on with the mainstream parties. Someone on the outside is pulling the strings, so I really can’t be on board with the notion of holding my nose and voting against clorox knowing that I would have to drink Javex instead.
            Apologies for stealing another SDA’s analogy, but it is apt.

        2. Stop panicking, C. When its said and done, Groper will still be in a minority, and the short pants crew at CPC HQ will get schooled on how and why, you don’t turn your backs on the base.

          Unintended consequences? No, utterly predictable.

          Max is the only party leader espousing entirely different policy than the 4 other talking heads, which agree on the same policies, its just a matter of degree. Not quite fast, faster, more faster, hyperspeed. Max says, let’s go in a different direction.

          CONSERVATISM. INDIVIDUAL RIGHTS. Financial restraint. All are missing from OFools agenda

          1. I’ve been panicking for the last six years. So far I was right to panic. No reason to stop now. CPC is stuck on stupid and chased way the naive ones who jumped to PPC cult. That will cost them. We’re fucked. I know.
            The responsible thing is trying to rescue the CPC against themselves, the childish thing is to throw a tantrum.

          2. You have to realize this C. Political parties, like many things in life ebb and flow. We have seen all three of the Libs/Cons/Dips reach depths of embarassing lows, and high highs. Its necessary for each of them to fail, rebuild, succeed, collapse , fail, rinse and repeat.
            Its the CPCs turn to fail, from trying to do what all the mediots told them to do to “get more popular” when Scheer failed.

            Classic mistake.

            Trust me, when I say we all despise and loathe the lisping SCOAMF that infests Sussex Drive. He will in all likelyhood be handcuffed by a minority again, and he will have embarassed the backroom gang and financiers of the Lib Party, with this silly, unnecessary, and unsuccessful election (from a Lib point of view).

            The CPC isnt a cult. This year, its a protest vote and Max is saying all the right things, for those of us saying to the CPC, “WRONG TURN”.

            Those like me, living in a hopelessly Dipper riding, have a clear conscience voting for Max, Its necessary.

            This is a wake up call for the CPC, to not and never be Liberal light. The same crew behind the scenes of the CPC, from Ontario, are responsible for that embarassment known as Doug Fraud. Sorry, Red Tory types are toxic and a recipe for disaster

          3. I agree with you to the point. Yes there is a cycle. Yes CPC reached a new low. That is all unequivocally true. I hate them for that, I truly do. I refused to renew my membership because of that.
            And if you live in solid Lib or Con riding then by all means send the message.
            But if your vote can realistically deny Libranos another seat … all bets are off and I find unconscionable that those who are interested in freedom are unable to prioritize the most obvious direct threat. I would vote NDP or Green if Cons were third in my riding and the margin between second and first was close.

            As for PPC not being a cult. Just read the comments all around this thread… or riddle me this: how often do you meet a fellow PPC supporter who says “There are problems with Max but the positives outweigh the negatives” or something to that effect…
            The level of blind infatuation he has cemented around him is spectacular. Meanwhile he is playing right to Librano tune. Name one thing that he does that Libranos would not want him to do…
            Here is a guy who helped Libranos their last election, will do it again, lost the seat he and his father held before him held for decades, failed to gain a single seat, will fail again and still remains the leader. Yes it is a cult.

            He is not Canadian Trump, he is not Le Pen, he is Korvin Mikke.

      2. “What we desire is a Trudeau minority and another election in 18 months, an election in which PPC cannot be ignored because of their incredible showing this time out with zero MSM coverage. Oh, and to send a message to that turncoat globalist “controlled opposition” O’Toole that his liberal policies don’t cut it. It will be great to see when the short pants at CPC HQ count up the votes and realize they lost more to PPC than they gained from LPC. Hopefully they realize what an absolute F Up their current platform is.”

        Absolutely agreed. Erin O’Toole sold us out on the carbon tax, on mandatory vaccinations and on gun control (to name just three issues). He DOES NOT DESERVE our votes, and he won’t be getting mine. I’m sending a message to him and the CPC brain trust by voting PPC…I hope they interpret it correctly.

        Voting CPC just to stop the Liberals from winning (as so many here seem to think is the correct course of action) would only allow O’Toole to justify his betrayal, and I’m just not having that, sorry. A Liberal minority is the best possible outcome for me, followed by the dismissal of *both* Trudeau and O’Toole from their leadership positions. Another election, then, in 18 months? Also fine with me…as long as Erin O’Toole the FAKE Conservative is gone.

        1. You’re get your wish, O’Toole will be gone, as for another election… that may take a while. Besides your social credit may be too low to vote when the next election is called.
          Yeah yeah, it can never happen here, sure it can’t.

          1. Sure it can…. and there won’t be but a whimper and your boy O’Toole isn’t going to do a dame thing about it, maybe Max isn’t either but at least the word freedom left his lips.

        2. O’Toole said what he had to say to get brainwashed central Canada voters to consider him. If you aren’t prepared to accept compromise then there is an uncrossable divide between the West and the rest and therefor no purpose in continuing with federalism. Kenney is a federalist. Remove him and turn the referendum into demands and a springboard to a separatist provincial party. Rather than another party, take over the UCP riding by riding. Its too late for even a firewall.

    4. In French Canada, political personality cults are a dime a dozen.

      Max is a con man like Gilles Duceppe and Real Caouette before him. His only real goal is getting into Parliament and living large off his supporters, doing nothing in return but making promises he’ll never have to keep.

      More fool any English Canadian with the sense to know better who has been taken in.

      1. I could think of Lucien Bouchard, Rene Levesque, and Pierre Trudeau long before I’d have thought of Réal Caouette. You might as well go back to Champlain.

        And I don’t think Gilles Duceppe was the centre of a personality cult. Wouldn’t a personality be required?

      2. “Max is a con man …”

        Bingo, a petty con man on a personal vendetta leading naïve cultists by promising them everything he will never have to deliver.

        1. Colonialista, I know you dont like Max. And I am wary about voting PPC because Max could indeed be a con man, as you say.

          But serious question… how can Sheer and O’Toole not also be considered con men? They wont be implementing any free market ideas (none of significance). If they propose anything remotely free market, the media will shriek till the walls tumble. Remember when Harper disbanded the Wheat Board?

          Even if Max is a con man, he cannot be worse than O’Toole. The CPC is cucked by the media. Max doesn’t seem cucked. He got arrested.

          1. “How can Sheer and O’Toole not also be considered con men?”

            OMG, why am I required for an nth time to answer this question? How many times do I need to unequivocally state that I haven’t supported those morons? I voted for Maxipad against Dairy Queen in the party leadership race and for Sloan first Lewis second against O’Toole. I have shredded my membership when O’Toole got elected. And as awful as they are, they are still orders of magnitude better than Little Fidel.
            Why?
            Ask Venezuelans for example.
            That’s why.
            Between incoming censorship, gun garbs, social credit score and gathering inflation we might not get another election for a while now….

      3. “Max is a con man like Gilles Duceppe and Real Caouette before him. His only real goal is getting into Parliament and living large off his supporters, doing nothing in return but making promises he’ll never have to keep.

        More fool any English Canadian with the sense to know better who has been taken in.”

        Even if that is all true (and I don’t think so, sorry) I still DON’T CARE. My vote for the PPC is to stop O’Toole from winning, first and foremost. I read Max’s platform, and I like it (there’s a lot of common sense in there) but I’m not naive enough to think he can win government. He doesn’t have to…he only has to take enough seats ways from the CPC to teach them the error of their ways.

        Maybe the CPC will quickly turf O’Toole and adopt a more Conservative philosophy (and platform) again. Maybe they will select a new leader who understands and appreciates real conservative values, and is willing and capable of explaining and *defending* those values, rather than quickly apologizing and flip-flopping at the first sign of disagreement. Maybe I will vote for them again, if they do. Or maybe I’ll be a PPC supporter from now on…we’ll see.

    5. It’s the voters that are out of touch! Of course!

      Do you support the policy positions of the CPC? If so, eat a dick. If not and you’re still going to vote for them? Eat a bag of shit. Your fucking stupid blue/red mentality is how we got into this mess in the first place.

    6. We don’t for the CPC because they have blue signs. Policy matters!

      That’s why MAX and the PPC are the only true CONSERVATIVEs in the race.

    7. Did you say that when Reform came to be, grew, and then literally assimilated the Progressive Conservative party? It’s you who have no principles.

      1. “Did you say that when Reform came to be, grew, and then literally assimilated the Progressive Conservative party? It’s you who have no principles.”

        We could end up doing exactly the same thing yet again, only with the PPC instead of Reform. My question is, how can the CPC not see that coming?

    8. I think the CPC will get the most seats, with LPC in second spot.
      CPC/LPC will coalition with Trudeau as PM, O’Tool as Minister of Defense and deputy PM. Friedland will keep finance. Poilievre will be back benched.

    9. O’Toole ran for party as a conservative, ran for office as a liberal.
      Who knows what he would govern as. You can’t believe him. Could be good. Could be bad. Could be anything.

  6. Amateur Hour indeed. The plural of “hero” is “heroes”. It is definitely NOT “hero’s”. Grade 2 stuff.

  7. Best case scenario, Conservative minority with People’s Party with enough seats to add up to a majority. Mad Max with the balance of power. One can dream…..

    1. Unlikely. Best case scenario is small Lib minority and another election in 18 months like JTru promised, where the PPC cannot be ignored.

        1. Will it matter? The CPC has been compromised by the Red faction. Imagine, the CPC seeing(?) the error of its ways, and turning back to similar policies as Max, after OFool is turfed out.

          The media will have a field day with the CPC, calling them hypocrites, insincere, posturing and pandering for votes (all true, but for different reasons).

          This turn left could turn out to be a catastrophic series of events for the CPC. Looks good on them.

          1. OTOH, true conservatives will see the CPC for what it has become, and turn their backs on them and move towards the PPC, and maybe the next time around, their numbers will be strong enough to put a few rumps in the benches of parliament. At least that will give us a voice in the chamber again.

            Or… the CPC will realize what a mess they made of things with their base, and try to woo them back with a leader with a little backbone, that speaks their language. Will it be enough remains to be seen. I’m not betting on that outcome though.

          2. “…maybe the next time around…”

            Right, you know what will change next time around. Few things actually. First Little Fidel will import a lot more Librano voters. Second your Social Credit score will have to be verified when you vote. Third you may have to choose between a breadline and a voting line.
            But people will smarten up. Sure they will, that is why they are going to reelect him for the third time now. But four times a charm, right? Surely voters could not be so stupid for the fourth time. And if that does not work then like for fifth time it is guaranteed. It is not like he will continue fundamentally reshaping the country while in power. So just wait a few more years and sunny times are waiting.

    3. Worst case? CPC minority, and instead of trying to govern with the support of Maverick or PPC, the retard O’Toole cozies up to Jagmeet.

      1. Even odds, worst case is teaming up with the Bloqheads, as much as the Commies are bad, the Bloqhead faction is more likely

    4. Exactly right! A minority Liberal government with the PPC holding the balance of power would be gone in a New York second. A minority Conservative government with the PPC holding the balance of power would see a fast about face of the Liberal Lite policies that O’Tool has expressed. The best part of this dream is that it could happen. The Peterson Bernier interview has fielded about 280,000 views in just 48 or so hours a remarkable achievement for both Peterson and Bernier. The PPC party will have a great deal of federal finance funds coming in after this election and will not let finances hold them back from calling a quick election if they hold the balance of power should th Liberals get in with a minority.

      1. “PPC holding the balance of power”

        You do realize that to hold a balance of power, they would need, you know… a seat?

      1. I thought of trying but he is too far gone.

        Colonialista will never understand that Max and the people that voted for the PPC never left the CPC, it is the CPC that left us.

        I proudly already voted for the PPC in a ridding where the CPC needs every vote they can get to keep their seat because I already know that who ever wins tomorrow I as a free Canadian will lose. I will never vote for the Lib/Con uni-party ever again. If you want to fight tyranny you don’t vote for it.

    2. Oooo angusreid!

      Is it any less than a one hundred percent certainty Trudeau Liberals asked angusreid for their best guess of which way the wind blows BEFORE they called this stupid election?

      The whole thing is predicated on polling companies being as stupid as the rest of our elite clowns.

  9. If O’Toole’s CPC is anyone’s idea of a conservative government, I prefer the real Liberals at the helm of their sinking ship rather than his poor imitation of the LPC. I know the party I voted for won’t be in parliament when that happens. O’Toole and his zit-faced poly-sci grad advisers told him to piss on his base and they will still vote for him along with all those mindless mushy middle voters happy to leave the left to vote for fake CPC liberals. Who is delusional now?

    1. “I prefer the real Liberals …”

      Of course you do. You’ll get your wish. See you in a gulag.

      1. The gulags are coming no matter which side of the Lib/Con uni-party win tomorrow.

        You don’t defeat tyranny by voting for it.

  11. I came for the punditry, staying for the moment you realize you need to run.
    Got my vote. (all of them–I’m good at mailing stuff to Sasatchewan).

  12. Electionprediction.org
    Check it out and weep. Yes, they have got it a bit wrong in the past, but only by a bit.
    Libs propped up by dippers. Our future.

    1. If that site is right everyone should feel free to vote their conscience. Unless you have no conscience, then you are probably voting Liberal.

    2. So, nothing much will change. That won’t look too good on the Turd. How much did he spend on this unnecessary vanity election call? 600 million? I’m sure many taxpayers will be pleased with that.

      The Turd will have some ‘splainin’ to do, even with the media covering his ass for him.

      1. Groper’s biggest problems may come from within his own ranks, and the Bay Street financiers

        Lib HQ and the wing of the party that barely tolerates Groper, has seen affirmed, that his ceiling has been achieved.

        The Peter Principle is alive and well, Groper is living proof

        1. I’m sorry, Dan, but I must quibble your point about the Peter Principle. That refers to people who had a basis of competence in something, were rewarded/promoted for it, and eventually were promoted to a position they were not competent at.

          Trudeau was the son (presumably) of a person the Liberal Party has deified. He was never competent at anything, including millionaire playboy. Even for the lowest of callings, that of politician, he has no accomplishments, no personality, no charm, no winning attributes, nothing. Peter Principle cannot apply to him at all.

    3. Checking their own numbers at election prediction dot com they are always between 9 and 24 per cent wrong.
      That translates to somewhere between (roughly) 35 and 80 seats – wrong, every time.
      And that 35 to 80 seats is what this election (and frankly most of the them) turn on.
      Probably going to be a Liberal minority with a chance of a Con minority – and a few seats here and there turning on local tendencies with minor parties. Some votes shifting to the NDP away from the Liberals, some shifting to the PPC away from the Cons, and a few other combinations in smaller amounts. Maybe enough to turn a riding or a few. I can’t imagine the Libs actually polling more votes but hey . . . Canadians!
      Canadians frankly, don’t deserve their democracy, they are too stupid and self-absorbed to consider their options and vote responsibly. In the end it has to burn down before they will see what they’ve thrown away, and by then it will be awfully hard to rebuild.

  13. I told my staunch conservative buddy yesterday, I voted for Max not for this election, but the next. I can only hope that Max might be heard on debt and liberty during the next campaign. This one is already lost to true conservatives, no matter who “wins”.

    1. By the time of the next election your social credit score may be to low to let you vote. But sure keep reaching for purity in the meantime.

      1. Colon*

        Who are you pushing for? Seems O”Toole is closer than the last two leader who ran but you do not seem to grasp that they will not win being Turd light. Only Max has shown the courage and frank talk that true freedom loving Canadians are wanting. Your talk of getting aboard a watered down version of liberalism is not a wining platform. Enough. Stand up or put on the shackles is not a slogan free loving Canadians will abide by.

        bverwey

        1. “Who are you pushing for? ”
          I am pushing against Trudeau. If you do not recognize him as an existential threat to your freedom you’re delusional. Both realistic options suck. No need to convince me that O’Toole sucks, I have stated it ad infinitum already.
          But one option will turn us into NZ/Victoria within months and push beyond that if only given a chance, while the other will thread water and maybe prevent some of the greatest disasters. I voted for Sloan first and Lewis second last leadership race. Didn’t get my way. I voted for Maxipad in the race before (would not do it again but that is beside the point). Didn’t get my way again. Neither of the defeats will cause me to stop doing everything to prevent Little Fidel from advancing his Social Credit driven, disarmed, ecogulag, millennial, turd world agenda.

          1. I know one thing for sure.
            The Bank Of Canada has a tender out for tech wizards to make a Digital Stand Alone Currency to replace cash.
            It’s on their hiring website.
            A currency that needs no QR phone app or phone or card to use.
            What better than a small insert able chip under the skin in your hand or arm that can be waved over a scanner , tied directly to your bank account.
            A system that can track every purchase, deposit, payments and your movements.
            A system that can be tied to a social credit score.
            Not pay your taxes your account is drained by REVCAN .
            Be a bad person no access to society, travel ,no ability to shop or be denied a rental anything .
            THEY don’t like you , then they turn the chip off and now you can’t function in society, you’re fuked.

            It’s coming, it was foretold in a dusty 2000 year old book.
            ” No man shall buy or sell least he has the mark of the Beast in his right hand or forehead ” , paraphrased.
            COVID was the perfect Trojan Horse to implement this Totalitarian Tyranny.

          3. @John Bosley. Yes, you’re right. It is coming.

            The beast is bigger than mere politicians, political systems, and countries.

            It’s unleashed.

      2. Jonas J. Smith, acclaimed by the Yukon Conservative Association to run for the CPC last July, was considered an almost sure bet to take the federal seat from retiring long-term Liberal MP Larry Bagnell, to whom Smith lost by less than 1% in 2019. Yet CPC leadership sacrificed a seat by pulling Smith’s nomination for expressing opposition to mandating workplace vaccine requirements and vaccine passports, views which were ostensibly identical to many in CPC leadership at that time. Can you tell me again about purity tests?

        1. Demagogy. I am not defending idiots running CPC into the ground. Does not mean that I have to join a cult of the only pure Maxipad the Light Bringer and thus help Little Fidel into more power.

          1. And it’s better to be sold out to China by O’Tootles than Prinz Dummkopf because.

  14. You are falling into a volcano. Does it matter if your parachute is blue or red?

    Elections are pointless unless preceded by an ideological shift.

  15. The PPC vote is already in the box, I would imagine most PPC voters wanted to get it done in the advance poll so they wouldn’t have to line up and deal with a whole bunch of their leaky vaccinated neighbours. So that last minute Soros style attack on Kenney and Moe will probably not have much impact on results, the PPC support base is around 5 to 7 per cent and will likely stay there now.

    I don’t think any party will be more than ten seats different from the last time, the Greens may lose one of their two, the NDP may go up slightly, and Max will be life or death to win his seat. Otherwise I imagine the odd PPC result will break double digits in safe Conservative ridings and where it’s a Liberal-NDP tossup so you don’t get any dilution of the PPC vote over second best winner options. No point in drifting over to the CPC if you figure they are in third place anyway in your local riding.

    That’s what I am prepared to say in the analyst role, but as a citizen, I can say without reservation that any conservative who votes CPC and not PPC is just enabling Trudeau to do more damage to our country, that vote will not ruffle the feathers of the supporting elites, but a 10 to 15 per cent PPC vote certainly would get their attention. The problem is, we are out of options already and need a miracle, and I can’t see it happening. All that an O’Toole majority government would do is to slow down the eventual collapse of our country, all other outcomes will accelerate it. The Liberals having to do the bidding of the NDP would not be a good thing.

    1. You’re still the sanest/smartest man in the room, PO’D.

      Hit That Button dept.
      Kate’s excellent site offers the following disclaimer :
      This is just the voice of an ordinary Canadian yelling back at the radio – “You don’t speak for me.”

  16. Ultimately I think anyone who’s a fiscal conservative, small government, large individual rights, mind your own fucking business person is going to be disappointed if not threatened in the near future by Progs, Eco-nuts and Moonbat Authoritarians because they are the majority and until a grass roots movement can take back the education system, overthrow the bureaucracy and dismantle the current state of the federation, the future is a dark mess of shit and blood.

  17. as long as prince selfiesoxofblackface resigns , although humiliation isnt one of his results

    why does nobody bring up the school girl incident ?

      1. ” once a year to demonize guns and embarrass engineers”

        Wrong “school girl incident”, I think…

  18. The PPC is likely to find out what the Green party has known for a long time. It’s very hard to translate 5-10% of the overall vote into actual seats. Which is why FPTP is despised by small parties and why the governing party will never change it.

    1. It’s amusing how so many people here routinely declare their support for parties like the PPC and Maverick, yet roundly reject the notion of electoral reform in favour of preserving FPTP, arguing that alternatives like proportional representation would lead to fringe parties gaining a voice in the HoC. It’s like they don’t realize that the PPC and Maverick currently are fringe parties.

      1. You know what, Ted? I too argued against reformation, but I realize now that the political landscape has changed, and would now like to take another crack at looking at reforming the system. It may be the only reasonable way to get PPC into the house. The tradeoff is that it will also allow the Greenies to get more bums in there, but at least WE would also have a voice. Heaven knows we won’t get anything out of a CPC opposition anymore.

        Something I would hope other SDAers would reconsider.

        1. I would take another look, as well
          We need to consider all possibilities to release the grip the crooks have on our nation

          1. I would seriously caution against that. You think it will change things? No, it will change politicians. For the worse. The moment you get proportional reprobation party elites get elected until they die. The rank and file changes sometimes but the party elites stay at the helm. They switch between government and opposition but nothing changes. Proportional representation is the last thing those who want change should demand. Despite all its faults, the current system is still a lesser of the two evils.

    2. “The PPC is likely to find out what the Green party has known for a long time. It’s very hard to translate 5-10% of the overall vote into actual seats.”

      True…but I’m not expecting the PPC to win seats (although it would be a nice bonus) this time out. I just want them to *take* seats from the CPC.

      Another Trudeau minority doesn’t bother me because he will be gone shortly after the election anyway and even if he wasn’t he would still be in a minority situation and thus unable to really screw Canada any more than he already has.

      1. I wouldn’t bank on Groper being gone, not immediately. Sociopaths have massive egos, and, there’s a cult membership that would fight “to the death” for T2.
        But there will be a civil war in the Liberal party coming up, no doubt. Katsmeat is dying to get back in, and he thoroughly loathes the Trudeau cult. And he has allies from the old Cretch team that are just as motivated to get rid of the cult.
        Beer and popcorn coming up.
        Both major parties could be in a civil war soon.

  19. I wonder if the Liberals are bleeding support to the PPC because of the compelled vaccine issue. It probably isn’t very much but it would be interesting if that is the case.

  20. Max has given up on the Beauce. He’s spending election night in Saskatoon instead, which is pretty much the epicentre of PPC support.

    It’s symbolic in the sense that Saskatchewan is on the cusp of replacing Alberta as the heartland of Canadian conservatism, and Max (the Saskatchewanian from Quebec) is leading the way.

    1. “Max (the Saskatchewanian from Quebec)”

      ROTFLMAO, sure he is, he is everything every of his supporters wants him to be. Not a cult, not at all.

  21. Who shall I vote for which will escalate Alberta/Sask.’s drive to separate from Old Canada?
    Though it’d be sweet to see all the major party’s leaders resign in disgrace over some allegation… at this point I wouldn’t even care if it was absolutely true. Trudeau’s scandals including blackface and the non disclosure agreement with the school kid, or his hand up the reporter’s shirt weren’t enough for him, I no longer care if whatever brings him down is true… as the marxists sometimes say, “the ends justifies the means”.

    I believe Angus Reid is the only major pollster who doesn’t accept gov’t money/contracts.
    So I do put more faith in what he says…

    The imbecile Trudeau won’t notice if those who’ve left the Conservatives have all gone to the PPC, he may applaud this, but they’re still here, and they’re still mighty pissed at Old Canada and the frauds that have taken hold…

  22. Polls are always right, just ask HER.

    They are all in the business of creative opinion making. Whoever has the best meme earns the biggest contracts.

    The country is broken and the last chance to save it evaporated in 2015.

    So here’s a quick run down of what has to happen so the sock monkey can keep his leadership position.
    He has to win a majority, there is no prize for status quo. Won’t matter a damn if he gets more seats but falls short of majority, his goose is cooked if it’s even one seat short of a majority.
    Why?
    Because in a minority parliament the opposition has the majority on the committees.
    Those committees that ask awkward questions like “can we see that information your trying to jam down the memory hole on the two scientists fired from that lab?”

    And don’t matter a damn anyways because the country is already screwed.

    1. @Joseph: Junior is a psychopath. If you were a Liberal MP, would you be the first to speak out against Junior’s leadership in caucus? They’re all gutless wonders at the best of times. If Junior is pushed out, it will NOT be by Liberal MPs.

      Even if Junior is in second place after this election, he’s still the PM until he resigns or is defeated by a throne speech/confidence vote. I can see Junior going to NDP and BQ saying: “Here’s a blank cheque with my signature on it. You fill in the rest. Just give me however many votes I need for my government to survive. You’ll be voting for your own wish list.”

      After Junior gets his (unlimited) spending plan approved, he gets his GG to dissolve Parliament. And now Junior governs, not like his late father the Sun King, but more like England’s Charles I. Without Parliament. He might be able to last 12-18 more months like that. He’s buying himself time until some new disaster strikes and he can dispense with Parliamentary democracy altogether. Sounds farfetched, but it’s not impossible or out of character. Aren’t we already living in far-fetched times? If I had told you 10 years ago what it would be like today, you’d rightfully have said I was on crack.

      1. “Sounds farfetched”

        No not at all. We have plenty of reasons to recognize the threat he represents.

  24. “There’s a monument that stands at the Alamo, its there not because they won…but because they fought.”
    Personal “self respect”.
    Shouldn’t this always be ones goal.
    If “Tribalism” is the only thing that guides our political decisions the credibility of the traditional parties will continue to decline and we will never crawl out of the mess we are in.

    1. Sure thing TravisBowieCrocket. Just a quick question, who is your Sam Huston? You don’t have one, do you?

  25. pfft… “late switching”… I voted PPC weeks ago. Because their platform perfectly aligns with my way of thinking.

  26. Seems to me that if you’re in a safe cpc riding, a vote for ppc or maverick would be a great way to send a message to the cons to smarten up and quit insulting their base of support
    If I lived in a riding that was close, I’d vote to whoever was likely to best steal he seat from the libs. The libs are a scourge on our society , they are morally bankrupt and will continue to ruin our nation

    2. “Seems to me that if you’re in a safe cpc riding, a vote for ppc or maverick would be a great way to send a message to the cons to smarten up and quit insulting their base of support”

      Good point. I should perhaps have mentioned earlier that I’m in a staunch Liberal riding, so my PPC vote (and I was shocked to find that I even *have* a PPC candidate available for me to vote for) won’t change a thing. It’s strictly symbolic.

  27. This thread is sounding like a bunch of faceless egos vying for who is right more than anything else, let alone a common desire to rid what is left of the country of the Liberal blight.
    And therein lies the problem.

  28. Polls are a waste of time and money but if one likes visuals, Max Bernier had the biggest crowds. Combined, the other two major Parties never even came close to Max’s gatherings. Unfortunately, the Liberals will get as many mail-in ballots as they need to get the Majority they want. Again, Trudeau, has wasted our time. He will begin the slaughter next week when he’s certain of his power trip.

    I just channel surfed and noticed the “At Issue” panel on CBC. They actually mentioned the PPC Party’s existance. I could not believe my ears. On election night, Max will be in Saskatoon.

  29. “The libs are a scourge on our society , they are morally bankrupt and will continue to ruin our nation”

    Yep. Libs in all parties.
    So sad that so many excel at denying reality.

  30. Thinking here that this country needs a conservative party.
    Contrary to the idiots that run the so called Conservative Party of Canada, the critical mass of the voters would vote for conservatives.
    The facts of life are conservative.
    It is the cabal of useless self-important idiots that run the circles around O’Toole telling him that he is the one.
    Those recent immigrants that are eligible to vote after three years living off the taxpaying working stiffs love free stuff and the idiot in charge will promise to deliver.
    To vote for anyone today is tentative at best.
    If the idiot gets a majority, yeah, the country will continue on a down hill slide. In actual fact there is nothing and nobody in current crop of fuhrers that show any promise of good.
    There is most serious lack of leadership. Those that would like to change things are constantly shut down by the media cartel. Not so much that the cartel is particularly interested, they just like the power of diktat, they are the diktat. The politicians are scared shitless of saying anything that the cartel can pick on and demolish.
    The two so called ‘Leaders’ want the same thing. The socialist can promise blue from heaven, he can talk shit all day long, he will have no power other than support either of the other two.
    Max is completely unknown quantity, you may think you know. You don’t. He is much in the same boat as the socialist/fascist, he can talk all day long, it does not matter. Once, if he gets a seat and proves what he is made of he may win some consideration.

    Conservatives need to take over, up to now so called ‘Conservative’ party. Lewis comes to mind.
    Other than that it will be boat down the river into oblivion and this country will be deeper and deeper into totalitarian diktatoship.
    A rather sad story.

    1. We need to be lone wolves, not the terrorist type but more Wolverine warriors.
      TPTB greatly fear loners.
      Can’t be controlled or quantified.
      Hard to track or predict since noone are in groups.

      Throw sand into the fuking Infernal Machine.

    2. “totalitarian diktatoship” heh
      The Rex/Jordan discussion linked here the other day covered the lack of conservative ideas offered up to the public during elections, especially where they could be of some use in forming opinions.
      They talked about the useless nature of the leaders debates and wondered why conservatives agree to such one-sided anti-conservative platforms in the first place, since debates are limited to sophomoric things like global warming where solutions are not required nor possible.
      What is the point in participating in what amounts to mostly farce?

  31. Kate, you ABSOLUTELY NAILED IT!

    I watched the events of last week unfold in horror.

    The Conservatives need to rethink what they are doing and who they are, and they desperately need to get far better (understatement of the century) campaign managers.

  32. Hopefully Otoole will take the loss and learn from it. He needs to move farther left. Hahahaha.

    Someone earlier said it would be a Lib minority propped up by the NDP. This perfectly mirrors eastern Canada, and soon Alberta, and Saskatchewan as more and more big govt grifter types move out west and kids continue to be indoctrinated in schools. Canada doesn’t have an otoole or Trudeau problem, canada has a Canadian problem.

    Separate now or we will all be going down with the ship. I am truly hopeful that another 2 or 3 years of Trudeau will be enough to convince westerners to separate.

    All lovers of liberty from Old Canada are welcome here as far as I’m concerned. The commies can fuk right off back to their holes.

    1. “Hopefully Otoole will take the loss and learn from it. He needs to move farther left. Hahahaha. ”

      Oh God, DON’T EVEN JOKE about that. Please.

      (I’m afraid they might actually try it…)

  33. All this angst ,some people still believe voting matters.
    How quaint.
    If voting mattered ,actually could change the kleptocracy,it would be illegal..
    Cause it would become an “emergency”..
    To the government.
    All those claiming ‘Getting rid of Trudeau” is imperative..
    What will change?
    How do you expect this country to recover from the damage done to date?
    That debt is not going to pay itself.
    The proportion of tax takers to tax payers increases every year and all parties promise;”More”.
    If we see a Minority Red or Minority Blue,I fully expect them to band together to stomp us ever more.
    The Royal Purple,,cause they are more special than us mere mortals.
    None of them support individual rights and freedoms.
    All of them worship the Power of the State.
    Imagining the Conservatives are the magic parachute,that is going to stop our plunge into bankruptcy and Chaos…
    Good luck.

  34. The bottom line is Erin’s platform is to the left of the Turds in 2015. If you’re fine voting for that, then you too are a lefty, and more concerned with your cults of personality than Canada or its citizens.

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