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  1. I live in a relatively small town (around 10,000). One of the nurses at our local hospital resigned and came forward after the administrators pulled everyone aside and told them that if they told anyone about the people who were hospitalized with side effects from the vaccine, they’d be immediately fired.

    Now, I’m neither a lawyer nor a doctor, so maybe they’ve found a way around this… but aren’t modern medical ethics largely based around informed consent? Aren’t they violating those ethics by deliberately hiding the side effects and refusing to properly inform people?

    That’s not intended to be rhetorical. If anyone knows why and how they’re able to evade those responsibilities, by all means, let me know.

    1. I think the short answer would be ” was this caused by the vaccine, prove it”!

      Regardless of the seriousness of the adverse event.

      I know it is the worst answer possible, but that is the road we are on!

      1. Dougie – came far too close to losing a cousin to the “jab”. Cousin went into serious anaphylactic shock within a few minutes of getting the shot. Fortunately, the cousin was rushed to hospital where was – most fortunately – revived. Meantime son had been notified and drove back into town (he was working elsewhere) not knowing if would be having to identify a body. This reaction the authorities could not dispute.
        However, it has been my
        observation that – as far back as I can remember, Public Health pushes vaccines while not taking responsibility for any adverse reactions. That is why a lot of don’t trust public health authorities.

    2. Where do you live? I can’t give the answer for Canada, but in the United States if medical personnel speak about specific goings-on with patients outside the appropriate clinical conditions (ie. need-to-know) it’s grounds for immediate termination. It’s federal law. Doesn’t matter if it’s talking to the media or venting to your spouse after you get home about the patient from hell you had today besides saying you had a patient from hell.

      She resigned so she could speak freely without legal repercussions from her employer.

      As well, besides the ones we know exist I think we’re still figuring out the side effects, and we’ll find out more as they keep expanding the age groups eligible.

      1. I’m not talking about referencing specific incidents or patients, I’m talking about the wide-scale suppression of any information about side effects.

        Edited to add: Though on re-reading my initial post, I see that I wasn’t very clear at all. You’re absolutely right about the situation with my local nurse, but I am curious about the broader suppression/hiding of side effects that we’re seeing by the media, politicians, and the medical industry.

        To say nothing of the fact that the constant references to this as a ‘vaccine’ hides that it’s genetically modifying the recipients, amongst a population where many people are opposed to GMO, and might opt out if they knew what was happening.

      2. I’m quite certain that only applies to releasing personal mefdical information in which a patient is named. Saying we just treated 10 vaccine injured patients and enumerating the specific injuries doesn’t violate any privacy laws.

    3. @Alyric: “I’m talking about the wide-scale suppression of any information about side effects.”

      What wide-scale suppression? This blog post links directly to Public Health Ontario’s publicly available, regularly updated surveillance reports on AEFIs for COVID-19 vaccines. Information and FAQs on AEFIs are available on the websites of every national, provincial/territorial/state, and local public health and health care institution. Every news outlet has covered AEFIs in print, radio, and video. When you go to a vaccine clinic, you are given an informed consent form that specifically outlines the current state of knowledge about COVID-19 AEFIs in general and COVID-19 adverse events of special interest (AESIs) that you are requested to read and ask questions about before you decide whether or not to proceed.

      1. Social media outlets are still banning people for discussing it, medical boards are threatening to pull medical licenses for doctors who discuss it, hospitals are threatening to fire nurses and doctors who discuss it, and mainstream media outlets are largely refusing to bring it up.

        So yes, it’s wide-scale suppression. And yes, the information is available if you look, but you have to know to look, and they are deliberately not informing people before they get the jab, which, like I said, is a violation of the principle of informed consent.

        This may come as a shock, but there are still a lot of people in this country who either don’t follow any news, or only what they’re fed by the mainstream media. Many of them have absolutely no idea how many people have been injured or killed by the jab, or all of the potential side effects.

        1. “Social media outlets are still banning people for discussing it, medical boards are threatening to pull medical licenses for doctors who discuss it, hospitals are threatening to fire nurses and doctors who discuss it, and mainstream media outlets are largely refusing to bring it up.”

          The “it” you’re referring to above isn’t “facts and scientific data on COVID vaccine side effects”, it’s “COVID vaccine innuendos, rumours, misinformation and disinformation”.

  2. Francisco, using your link, the number of vaccinations in Ontario was 8.6 million, with 823 reported adverse reactions and 18 classified as serious. That works out to 0.21 per 100,000 or about 0.07 per 32,000.

    https://www.publichealthontario.ca/-/media/documents/a/2020/annual-vaccine-safety-report-infographic-2019.pdf?sc_lang=en

    There was a wide range in reporting rates from 29.7 to 0.8 (per 100,000) with an average of 5.6 per 100,000. This is for “adverse reactions” and not for “serious adverse reactions”.

    The other link points to “adverse reactions” (12,000 out of 21 million roughly) and “serious adverse reactions” (645 of 21 million) so where the hell did your graph come from? The links both come from you.

    The most common adverse reaction was skin reaction to the needle. Of covid-specific reactions “of special interest” there were 401 of 20,828,606 doses.

      1. Thanks Colonialista. I agree, lies, damn lies, and covid statistics. But … while we’re lying:

        A total of 53,559,981 vaccine doses have been administered in Canada as of September 3, 2021. Adverse events (side effects) have been reported by 14,702 people. That’s about 3 people out of every 10,000 people vaccinated who have reported 1 or more adverse events.
        Of the 14,702 individual reports, 10,735 were considered non-serious (0.020% of all doses administered) and 3,967 were considered serious (0.007% of all doses administered).

        1. Point 1 – Doctors are not allowed to tell us the truth even if they wanted to (at least in Ontario) because it would be classified as ‘misinformation’ (even if it’s scientifically true) so there is no incentive to report. Comply with the CPSO or be fired! Talk about medical malpractice!

          https://www.cpso.on.ca/News/Key-Updates/Key-Updates/COVID-misinformation

          Therefore a critical thinking person would assume that that the actual post vaccination adverse effects would be greatly under reported in Canada.

          Point 2 – If we look the the US VEARS database, a 2011 report showed that “Likewise, fewer than 1% of vaccine adverse events are reported.” (page 6).

          https://digital.ahrq.gov/sites/default/files/docs/publication/r18hs017045-lazarus-final-report-2011.pdf

          Would Canada be any different ? I think not.

          I know of at least 5 people that have had serious long term debilitating adverse effects within 5 days (strokes) of taking the 2nd shot. Would they be reported ? Of course not, or the doctor would be fired or dismissed.

          Yes, you are being lied to and you don’t even know it.

          1. I am finding some of the personal anecdotes to be quite revealing. I do not know anyone who has died from Covid. I know only one person who seems to have had a serious case. By contrast I know two people who have had mysterious heart issues post- vaccine and one person who had a brain bleed. I think a lot of the negative side effects are happening under the radar.

        2. “That’s about 3 people out of every 10,000 people vaccinated who have reported 1 or more adverse events.”

          That’s not correct. The correct statement would read:

          “That’s about 3 people out of every 10,000 people vaccinated whose reports of adverse events were not rejected by the whipped into vaccine frenzy overzealous medical establishment”.

          And here lies the difference. And it is a key one.

        3. meanwhile, 14,506 Americans died from the shots and 88,171 has serious injuries from the vax while 675,593 adverse reactions were recorded. Those numbers are considered to be on the low side . Canada has been suppressing all information regarding the serious problems with the not vaccines.

      2. Why would you necessarily believe these numbers. The CDC is bullshitting a lot of Covid data. You think your provincial or federal agencies wouldn’t do that?

    1. Gary, it’s like waiting for the end of the world. In the meantime, as no long term reactions are reported, long terms reactions are less likely to occur. But, I agree, 2205 could be a very bad year for the vaccinated.

      1. Steve/Unme/antiq

        Hurry up and get your 10th booster shot.

        If you want to use your body as a test tube, go ahead, lemming.

        No one is going to follow your diatribe/propaganda

        1. Dan, put on your big-boy pants and go to the links that Francisco provided. Then prove me wrong. I respect your right to not vaccinate. My own son said no to the jab and I just worked out with him. But you look foolish simply criticizing me with nonsense. Get some facts, come back and beat me over the head. And don’t link to coo-coo clocks who only reference their own work when arguing against vaccinations – people who start the sentence with “every expert knows” and finish the sentence with “and that is why nobody will talk to me”. These people are egomaniacs living in an eco-chamber.

          1. Hey Steve, we don’t care what excuses you make.

            There are substantial events of bad reactions.

            Doctors and Nurses are being muzzled, hope that makes you feel good, lemming.

            Remember Steve, Terry Tam, Trudeau, Hajdu, and your provincial politicians, NEVER LIE. BELIEVE! OBEY!

            Good little Stevie, you’re a good drone. Get lined up for your next dose, Israel, the UK and the US show what’s coming, the doses stop working after 5-6 months.

            6 fully Vaxxed people dead of COVID this week, same LTC. Very “safe and effective”, eh wot?
            https://www.timescolonist.com/news/local/two-more-residents-die-in-covid-19-outbreak-at-victoria-care-home-1.24357786

      2. Steve from Cockwood, sounds like you think long term means 3 weeks or so. Enjoy your 8 or 10 booster shots, you can have my altered definition of vaccine shots too.

        1. Moderna started vaccinating people on July 14th 2020. I believe that is about 1 year and 2 months. Not a long time, I agree.

        2. Hey asshole. Grow up. Are you 12 a year old?
          If that’s your best comeback it’s best that you STFU

      3. Yeah….like it took years for the effects of Thalidomide to be recognized. And you might be interested to know that women are about 3 times more likely to have reactions than men. You should take a look at the European data. Oh….one more thing, the data from the “trials” showed that the vaccine particles are heavily sequestered in the ovaries…..and there are MANY reports of unusual menstrual cycle issues showing up. So much so that FINALLY, the NIH in the U.S. is going to “study” it. Your logic is that of an infant…..or a Liberal….but I repeat myself.

        1. Bill Gates funded mRNA vaccine research.
          Bill Gates is on record as saying vaccines were a good way of controlling the population. Not in relation to the COVID-19 vaccine, as the fact checkers like to point out in order to rate this 100% false, but definitely in relation to solving the “crisis of over-population” via new vaccines he was funding.
          Do I trust Bill Gates not to develop a covid vaccine with an added hidden feature?

      4. 62% of vaccine recipients are showing clotting, including clotting in capillaries that is slowly causing long-term lung damage.

        Many doctors are reporting significantly higher rates of several cancers amongst vaccinated patients.

        Will these trends hold out? I don’t know, and that’s the problem. None of the long term effects were studied, so we don’t know. If you can’t see the problem with injecting hundreds of millions of people with an untested vaccine (that’s not actually protecting people from the virus, as it turns out), all to attempt to protect against a cold, I’m not sure there’s anything else to say.

        Five hundred years ago, smallpox swept through populations. Parents buried four of their seven children and got up for work the next morning. Today, a virus with a 99.98% survival rate by the general population, and effectively 100% survival rate by the healthy population sweeps through, and most of the people cower under their beds waiting for the government to tell them everything will be okay.

        It’s very sad.

        1. “Five hundred years ago, smallpox swept through populations. Parents buried four of their seven children and got up for work the next morning. Today…It’s very sad.”

          500 years ago, life expectancy at birth was about 35 years. If one were lucky enough to survive childhood, one still likely died in their fifties. People living in medieval periods weren’t tougher or braver or more stoic than people today. Life was just shorter and more brutal in the distant past.

    2. In Oz the TGA publish reports on the Jab.

      They report that the ‘Adverse Events’ are being reported by about 1 in 250. This is reported events, so I think we can safely assume the non reported events are much higher as people just ‘man up’ and wait for the headaches to go away.

      Case point – not 1 hour ago I was working to our work lunch room and passed two workmates in discussion. One of them was apologising for being away yesterday (and delaying the immediate work flow) because he was recovering from the Covid jab and simply couldn’t handle the headaches. I seriously doubt he bother to report this but the direct result is 7.6hours of ‘lost time’.

      So even with all the events that may or may not be unreported we still have total ‘Adverse Events’ that are very close to the total ‘Cases’ reported in Australia since Fauci Flu was invented last year. Yes I admit that not all ‘Events’ are hospital level, but never are ‘Cases’, yet in a shorter period of time the same or more (I would need to check latest reports to give definitely answer) people made formally uncomfortable in some way by the Jab that have been accused of being a Covid Case.

      And Breakthrough cases are still ending up in ICU where they are actively discouraged from using Horse Pills.

      Destroy village in order to save.

  3. Am I correct in assuming that the death count from the China Flu includes deaths resulting from adverse reactions to the vaccine such that you cannot quantify that number separately. That seems like something they would do.

  4. Sent to me in email. Just Copied and pasted this:

    Just going to put this out there as food for thought. There is no shortage of theories about what’s in these mRNA vaccines and how they could ultimately effect the vaccinated, but this virologist (Adam Gaertner) has been monitoring the potential for “prions” to develop in the vaccinated, i.e. a malformation of proteins that can lead to Creutzfeldt-Jakob disease (CJD), otherwise known as Mad Cow Disease:

    https://twitter.com/veryvirology/status/1436545045373489157?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1436545045373489157%7Ctwgr%5E%7Ctwcon%5Es1_&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.timebomb2000.com%2Fxf%2Findex.php%3Fthreads%2Fcould-we-be-seeing-the-early-stages-of-prions-disease-mad-cow-disease.607445%2F

    1. This has been documented by Dr GVB and Dr Robert Malone as well. There are substantial concerns, short and long term over this cytotoxic concoction.
      I’ll stick to the Dr Zelenko protocol, that has saved thousands of his patients. Too bad our national medical system continues to experiment on failing experiments, and unworkable therapies.
      India seems to have figured it out though. Oops, that’s that horse paste, there’s no way that crap works……or does it? Or is India a fluke, or just another muzzled country from the propaganda mediot industry?

  5. AstraZeneca has 4x as many as Pfizer, but Health Canada told us it was safe.
    I’d like to see the numbers for the people that got mixed doses of Pfizer and Moderna.

  6. It doesn’t matter if the adverse reactions are one hundred ten per cent or just barely 0.0000000001%.
    It is putting a foreign substance into one’s body that is the issue here. Forcing a person to introduce a foreign substance into one’s body against their consent is against natural law. Only communists and national socialists think it is acceptable.
    I hope that one day, all who pushed this will be prosecuted no different than the good citizens that “legally” ratted out their fellow citizens as “enemies of the state”.

    1. Mr Galati and his Constitutional Rights Centre is doing yoeman’s work on this issue. His newsletter is worth following.

      Celebrated Canadian Constitutional lawyer Rocco Galati characterizes the COVID Operation as “the biggest example of misinformation and lies on a global scale that we’ve seen.”

      https://truthcomestolight.com/constitutional-lawyer-rocco-galati-takes-on-the-lies-crimes-of-the-covid-operation-lawsuit-filed-against-the-canadian-government/

      https://www.constitutionalrightscentre.ca/

    2. Absolutely. No one should be forced to take an alien substance into their body. The fact that these vaccines do not stop transmission or lead to herd immunity means there is no justification for vaccine mandates or passports.

  7. Cases are under reported. Dr Phillips from Englehart (via twitter) has stated he has a limit to how many ‘adverse effect reports’ he can submit to VAERS.

    Also…I know a young lady, had vax while pregnant, ended up with emergency C-section at 32 weeks gestation due to pre-eclampsia. Bet no one linked the 2 to make a report, but many of us are quite suspicious. (baby 3 pounds…survived)

    1. Do hope the young’un not only survives but thrives. There can be serious problems down the road with some of those premies.

  8. I simply do not trust those numbers to be in any way accurate. Why is that? Basically it’s because the people who are in charge of this mess and the people who have styled themselves as “experts” have already burned what trust I might have had in them, and they’re not going to get that back easily, if ever.

    1. Many share that sentiment. Unfortunately the medical industry has become as unreliable and deceitful as our media industry, very sad!

  9. I am hearing that people tend to have a worse reaction after the second shot. Does it get even worse after the third? It would be good to know if the risk changes based on which dose is administered. Anyone know anything? I know it is mostly LTC residents who are getting third doses right now in Canada.

  10. Many share that sentiment. Unfortunately the medical industry has become as unreliable and deceitful as our media industry, very sad!

    1. But Dougie will never get out of jail.
      And in a week Ontario would not have a civil servant left to question..
      Oh Right.
      They get to define what “Misinformation” is,not truth, not facts ,just their version of reality.
      From lifetime serial liars..
      Firing them all, is far too merciful a reward for how they have served us.
      Especially the fake conservatives who proclaim the sanctity of the individuals rights and freedoms, to get elected,then stomp the citizen every way they can.
      Statist Thugs.

  11. VAERS number of DEATHS from covid vaccine in the USA is over 14,000

    VAERS is part of the CDC

    both of them are very much PRO-vaccine
    so if they are saying there was 14,000 deaths, the real number is probably much higher. ( they have been caught cheating and lying in the past, they may be lying about this too )

    see for yourself,

    https://openvaers.com/index.php

  12. The issue is still the same: do you trust the Public Health machine to tell you the truth about the gene therapy results and if so, why? I started the pandemic (a term that I would ridicule in this case as the death rates overall are at par with previous flu years) by conversing with total strangers in checkout lines and asking two simple questions: do you know someone that had a clinical diagnosis for COVID (actually saw a doctor and confirmed the PCR diagnosis with an office visit) and do you know anyone, personally, that died from COVID (again with the same criteria)? True, it was just a straw poll, anecdotal evidence, but (and this is the key metric), it took me 6 months to get a positive response to the first question, and I never got a positive response to the second question. A German scientist, Van Den Bossche, I believe, does the same thing – asks local morticians if there is an uptick in business whenever WHO talks about a pandemic. Again, anecdotal, but he got the same response – no more business than usual.

    As to reactions to the jab, over the weekend, I heard that a former babysitter took the jab and now has pericarditis, and a friend of my daughter, age 30, now has to have a pacemaker because of myocarditis. Again, anecdotal, but a marked change. And I have been asking the associates of nurses that I know (husbands, acquaintances) about who is coming into ICU with COVID symptoms, and the answer is the same (because it is a private conversation and off the record), and the majority are the vaccinated, not the unvaccinated. Again, it is anecdotal, but consistent.

    Our problem is that there is no consistent tracking of data regarding either COVID, or the reactions to the gene therapy, and the data that is being recorded is highly suspect because of politics and narrative. And the story from Public Health keeps changing just like Tam and Fauci. So there is a lot to be suspicious of.

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