Now Is The Time At SDA When We Juxtapose!

Baiting The Left Media Wuhan Flu 64 Comments
The Lie August 6, 2021 CDC study confirms vaccination’s greater protection against COVID-19 compared to prior infection and natural immunity
The Reality August 2, 2021 Natural immunity from a previous Covid infection provides 13.06 times better protection than from vaccines
The Cope September 1, 2021: Gotta keep the official narrative rolling along

Never forget, being on the Left means never having to apologize when you’re wrong and ignoring all new facts that don’t fit your predetermined narrative.

64 Replies to “Now Is The Time At SDA When We Juxtapose!”

    2. Only people that do not understand how to read CDC press releases think that. 100% fake news.

      No “shock report” here. Just a lack of intelligence.

  2. Almost unrelated…. I was blocked at the my hospital from leaving by protesters… no doubt SDA readers.

    From the bottom of my heart and from the people in ER I work with…

    Think twice before you go to the hospital for you may meet me and I don’t care about your problems you expect me to fix.

    1. Maybe you should think twice about demanding people take a questionable mad science genetic modification experiment for a disease which is less dangerous than the swine flu we all had a few years ago, Karen.

      You might meet one of us. We’re kinda pissed at you.

      Possibly you’ll do better to mind your own business and do your freakin’ job for a change.

      1. burton, this is not a slam of you but, the silliness of these LARP and crap is dumb. Just type the freaking words.

    5. I highly doubt your story. Doesn’t pass the smell test. Maybe you just wanted to hide from disapproving looks? But it wasn’t Antifa outside your hospital.

      Now given that the West is a hotbed of systemic racism, have you figured out how to bget your white guy Fauci, and white CEO of Pfizer, and the mostly white CDC and FDA to get black folks to take the vax yet?

      You DO know that Pfizer is already now preparing to market a twice per day oral anti-viral that should be taken as well as the vax, right?

      Oh and Ivermectin has been being successfully used for YEARS in treating the symptoms of numerous conditions, such as Dengue fever, HIV, etc … If you bothered to look.

      What do you call the kind of people who were if they were alive about 100 years ago, would virtually have guaranteed that penicillin was quashed, and never saw the light of day?

  3. Why do I have the feeling that the call for ‘booster’ shots invalidates the claim that vaxs work ? Could it be we are being strung along until there is a real vaccination ? But viruses do mutate and profits are to be made whilst Big Pharma is excused from legal liability.

    1. We have a God given immune system that has been perfected through thousands of years of evolution.
      It works fairly well provided we take care of ourselves.
      It has functioned without today’s modern science.
      As they say ” what doesn’t kill you, makes you stronger.”
      ” Everything in moderation. “

      1. John, the truth is so difficult for most people. I have enjoyed life and have over done it as they say, at times. Yet here I am, an old man in pretty good health and the government wants to kill me by taking a gene therapy shot. I have sent at least a dozen letters/emails to Doug Ford. The man is an idiot by the way. Everything that surrounds the whu who flu is a fraud. I have no idea where the hell the intelligence of the average man on the street went, that includes women, there are only two genders. What happened, stupid is where we are?

  4. My favorite part of all this is how they keep pretending this is more serious than a cold. 99.997% recovery rate in 0-55 years old population. You’ll live for sure unless you’re going to die anyway of something else.

    95% recovery rate in over 65s, because that over-65 category includes all the really old nursing home patients… who were going to die of something else anyway. Your -healthy- 95 year old probably won’t die of WuFlu.

    Seasonal colds and flu really do kill people, just not very many. One of the reasons the death rate is declining from WuFlu is that the most vulnerable people are dead already. Nursing homes, you know. They don’t wash things very often.

    1. I seem to recall another political party that encouraged the death of the sick and elderly so that they wouldn’t be a burden on society. Oh right, it was the Nazis.

      3. And who is encouraging the death of the elderly? Seems your hero, NY Governor Cuomo, sent infected people into the nursing homes to do just that.

  6. I am not anti-vax but I have chosen to not get the vaccine as of yet. I’m 99% sure I got Covid back in Feb 2020. As Kate knows, I’ve done some extensive traveling this year around America. I’ve always been respectful and ready to put on a mask where required. But I haven’t been fearful or paranoid. I was not sick one day over 6 months.

    I’ve been super happy for everyone who wanted to get the vaccine and did so, including my 89 year old mother in Vancouver and loads of friends the world over. Yesterday I spoke with one of those friends, a beautiful 30 year old woman in Berlin. We talked about the vaccine. She got double-jabbed, mostly because she “wants to travel and get on with her life”. I understand that. Btw now in Berlin you do have to show proof of vaccine, or a few other optional “proofs”, to get into most restaurants, cafes, etc. I abhor this policy but it is what it is. So for my friend, getting the vaccine was the least worst option in her mind.

    I posed the following scenario to her: “If later this year or sometime next year, the authorities insist that you need to get a booster shot every month or every few months … for the rest of your life, what would you do?” She was understandably stumped to provide an answer. I would be too if in her shoes.

  7. You SDA readers are the same as the extreme left…you want freedom but no responsibility…like a child.

    You don’t like what I say so you attack me, not what I say.

    3. Then say something……. Here’s a start – why don’t you tell all of us here the long term safety of mRNA vaccines? Please provide studies, citations, etc. Given the pro vax climate, should only take you 2 minutes. We’ll wait.

    4. Oh, UnMe, you’ve disappointed us. We thought you had more imagination than that.

    5. @ pro-vax? What? Your post makes no sense. I assume of you want to talk freedom vs responsibility, your BMI is under 25, you neither drink, nor smoke, you drink only ONE cup (4 fl oz) of coffee per day. You eat fresh fruits and veg every day. You consume no more than 75g trans fats in a week. You get 30 mins of moderate to vigorous exercise in which you raise your HR to at least 80% of VO2 max at least once per week. And you sleep at least 8 hours a night.

      Because if not, you are at high risk fo becoming a Fat Fcuk. Now what is the problem with that? Well Fat Fcuks account for about 80+% of each cohort’s healthcare costs, and have put so much strain on the system that others need their healthcare rationed because of you.

      And don’t get me started on motorcycle riders and ice climbers.

      Your freedom is clashing with your responsibilities.

      Oh, and this is an illustrative argument.

      As for me, I run 20-30k per week, do 20 mins of calisthenics twice per week. My BMI is 24.2, I have 1-2 drinks per week. I probably drink a bit too much coffee. Don’t smoke. Last time in hospital was 30 years ago, as a youngster. Got bacterial pneumonia. They kept me overnight to keep an eye on me, them sent me home. Next morning. Didn’t even get to have hospital food! (I got robbed!)

      Everything through my former athletic career was risk-benefit calculations. Conditional probabilities and Bayes. I continue to apply this analysis to things like vaccines (even more so when they have been fast-tracked through the usual processes that were built over decades to keep us safe from badly-made drugs).

      I am still waiting for cohort-based studies that track more than just age and sex. There has (finally) been a study via CDC on BMI as a Covid risk factor. Yup, Fat Fcuks are high risk. Sadly they seemed more interested in making the case for single-payer healthcare than considering deeper levels of risk factor for an actual understanding of individual health needs.

      Remember, we can gather all the data we need but every human being is an ongoing experiment of one.

    6. We attack you because you’re trolling, you twit. And not very well either. Go back to your mother’s basement with a box of kleenex and a bottle of aqualube, sonny.

    7. Personal choice means personal responsibility.
      Perhaps that concept is foreign to you?
      But by all means go with your ASSumptions.
      SDA followers prefer thought over prejudice.
      That doesn’t make an ass out of us, just you.

    8. You just tipped your hand. Run along, it’s better for your mental health.

      Or

      Actually address the post.

    9. You shoot your mouth off yet you say nothing. Then you expect to have an adult conversation. Which, for unknown reasons, others on this site are trying to have with you.

  8. The fact checkers should fact check their own work to put things into context. One example:

    “The suggestion that you might be better off getting infected versus vaccinated does not take into account the inherent risks associated with COVID-19 infection, including death,”

    The risk of death by covid for people under 65 is 0.3%. For under 19s it is 0.003%. Everyone else falls in between. The younger,  healthier and slimmer you are the better the recovery rate.

    With those odds, I wouldn’t seek out covid19 but I also don’t fear it (ditto for long covid). Gaining indefinite immune response (17 years and counting on Sars covid -1) and an extremely low rate of reinfection (13x better than vaccinated people) seems worth the risk. A covid19 vaccine with a truly terrible safety profile, almost weekly alerts of new serious adverse effects including death, doesn’t protect from infection or transmission, is failing against new variants and its protection disappears after 4-6 months…I’d avoid those vaccines like the plague.

      1. Not everything should be political. That everything is political is the number 1 problem right now.

        Those at higher risk, the 0.3%, have the best case for taking the current vaccines but should never be mandated or forced to have it. In fact, every adult needs to do a personal risk assessment/risk tolerance and decide for themselves what they want to do…without harassment, threats or coercion from anyone, especially politicians.

  9. What are the odds the “booster” shot is simply New/Old Stock of a technically obsolete vaccine that has to be moved through the supply chain logistics? There is only so much freezer space for a product that has to be stored at -95C.

    If you are dumb enough to think the booster shot will protect you when the effects of it’s earlier use has worn off, by all means buy it.

    1. When Moderna and BioNTech pivoted from therapeutic drugs to vaccines several years ago, they rationalized the move by saying vaccines wouldn’t have the bad side effects they were seeing so far in their animal trials due to vaccines only being given once or twice.

      Now, the “experts” are calling for six month booster shots which will accumulate doses in people approaching the levels of the failed animal trials. It is going to get even uglier.

  10. I come all the way to Saskatchewan to fly a survey and the aircraft owner won’t fly anyone in (to the remote camp) without them being double-vaccinated. Plus I had to take the brain swab test up my nose.

    Meanwhile, the nearest First Nations reserve with 800 people has a break-out of 100 covid patients. Very few people on the reserve are vaccinated. Lots of diabetes around so some of those people won’t make it.

    Getting covid and developing natural immunity doesn’t help if you die before recovering, which is an issue for me having diabetes. Not being able to work is also a major problem. I can’t travel to any job site unless I am double-vaxxed. At the last site in Ontario, masks and social distancing were required. I live off the hope that the vaccines reduce the effect of covid if you get it. I’m not convinced but ever since Justin Trudeau came to power I’ve been able to live in a self-made bubble where soaring deficits mean nothing (MMT) and the vaccine cures everything from rickets to ugliness – ok rickets.

    The vaccine is turning out to be useless to stop the infection. Obviously no one knew this at the start (except for the conspiracy theory nuts) but it is now pretty obvious. So are we going to let our masters insist on booster shots and for how long? For a long time.

    It was a beautiful sunny morning as I dipped my head out of the tent. The powerful sun made me sneeze a few times, much to the horror of those nearby. It’s the sun – damn it! I do not have cooties.

  11. This is hilarious. The first two studies do NOT contradict each other. The first is vaccinated previously infected vs unvaccinated previously infected. The vaccinated group proved to have stronger resistance to reinfection.

    The second and third compared natural immunity vs. vaccination. Natural is better.

    BOTH CAN BE TRUE. DERP.

    1. “The vaccinated group proved to have stronger resistance to reinfection.”

      For Israel the facts are now undeniable…most vaccinated country in the world yet documenting the most cases to date – 1,058/1M as of yesterday and still climbing.
      Sweden – A paltry 104/1M
      Further, Pfizer admitted to Israel after consultation that vaccinations lose their efficacy over time and thus the need for a “booster”.
      Which begs the question: Are you being argumentative for the sake of being argumentative or are you trolling?

      2. Oh right vaccines don’t work because SWEDEN AND ISRAEL.

        Let’s completely ignore the differences between the two countries.

        No, you do not have a point.

        1. You have a counter point? Then just present it. Being arrogant and condescending isn’t going to advance your argument or convince anyone.

    3. Both studies can be true for the time period. It is becoming apparent that the vaccines work for a time, then they stop.

      The first study was only over a period of two months. So the conclusion should be the vaccine offers more protection to those who were previously infected for X months.

  12. It seems that more morons and terminally stupid are posting here these day. Oh well, if they have taken their shots, oh hell, not going any further. So many have rushed to die I have no where to go with the insanity and lack of thought. I hope you all survive.

  13. As time goes by, it becomes more and more clear that the vaxxes are markedly different. Any comparisons made with vaccines need to take into account which vaccine we are talking about. Israel’s vaccinations are petering out and they used Pfizer almost exclusively and tests show that those vaxxed with Pfizer lose antibodies very quickly compared to Moderna.

    AstraZenica seems to have a lot more complications than other vaxxes. Only a moron would make conclusions about the vaccines without breakouts by brand.

  14. Take the experimental jabs because….“Wanting to move on with her life!” “Wanting to travel!”
    Truly understandable aspirations.
    The overwhelming majority of people fall into this category and should not be blamed for wanting to trust. Leaning towards thinking governments are honourable and have their best interests in mind.
    Sadly down through history “governments” often have become the worst enemies of the people.
    I have abstained so far because I do not believe that governments will stop with the ever changing “goal posts”. They love the control, and even if we get jab after jab….getting back to normal and freedom to travel may still be restricted.

    1. There are many of us who have to travel to work and require 2 jabs and a nose swab to travel. Resisting the jab is not always an option.

    2. The vaccine might be the right choice for some people the disease is quite serious.

      However there is no reason to push mass vaccination and no good reason for most young people to get this vaccine.

      The vaccines aren’t bad on their own, however mass vaccination in a pandemic is a big experiment and coerced vaccination is downright evil.

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