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how long will they last w/o proper maintenance??
Weeks, maybe months. As far as aircraft the COIN prop driven planes may be kept in the air for a while if Chicoms help, but Blackhawks will not last. They will cannibalize them for parts and the numbers will be decreasing consistently and quickly. Similarly electronics of all kinds will need spares and knowhow. Same for armor, all those shiny toys will soon be replaced by old Toyotas.
They have no power projection to worry about but the initial influx of semi modern tech will help them consolidate power before the whole shithole collapses into its natural medieval state.
I’m sure the Chines, or the Russians will make some good offers for some of the more advanced tech. They’d be fools not to.
Even defunct, there would be a lot of information that can be obtained by doing a teardown of the hardware as well as some reverse engineering.
Don’t be surprised if some of that makes its way onto eBay. I’ve found all sorts of interesting leftover military gear being advertised for sale on that site. It wasn’t the sort of stuff that one could go to, say, Cabela’s and buy off the shelf.
I’d love to see Big Clive or DiodeGoneWild do a teardown and re-purpose of a Blackhawk fire control system.
Hackaday.com is the site that I look at for that sort of thing.
Aside from the amateur radio articles that I’m primarily interested in, it’s featured vintage military equipment and even a few bits of early American space hardware (either the actual items or replicas).
Quite right. This has happened before. The Islamic Republic inherited some of the world’s most modern military equipment in 1979 with the overthrow of the Shah. By the midway point of the Iran-Iraq war in 1984, it was all worthless junk from lack of maintenance. That war had essentially degenerated into nothing more sophisticated than WW1 trench warfare where key weapons were barbed wire, machine gun positions, human wave infantry attacks, and poison gas.
The Taliban need,,,
1. Money and expertise to use the equipment.
2. Money and expertise to maintain the equipment.
3. Access to parts suppliers.
4. Management skills to bring that all together.
All of those can be bought from the Chinese and Russia, at low, low prices of a few megatons of rare earth metals, and maybe some opium.
The west dropped the ball on the panacea of resources there, but heck, resource exploitation is evil, racist, colonialist, and bad for mother Earth.
I used to think we were shooting ourselves in the foot, but I was off by about 6 feet.
That be someone else’s foot
That be your head.
Yeah, I wonder if they are in a position to maintain any of this stuff, especially the helicopters. Of course, nothing stopping them from selling them. Tucker Carlson said last night that the cache included over 350,000 rifles and we’re talking actual assault rifles not AR-15s. Like he said, Hey Joe Biden, before you try to take my guns you should get every one of these back.
I would imagine their new friend and ally, China, will come to their rescue with well trained mechanics and technicians.
At least the Yanks got all the front line fighters and attack aircraft out before the surrender.
Now how is President Biden going to hunt down the guys who set off those bombs at Kabul’s airport?
You are kidding right, Biden couldn t find his A$$ with both hands! He is a vegetable being fed a cocktail of drugs before every public appearance to provide a few moments of apparent lucid awareness in order to convince those watching that he is actually in charge. Without the teleprompter he would be unable to recite the abc s, he is just a shell of his former self,not that that ever amounted to much !
A few strategic bombing runs could fix that real quick.
What exactly do you mean by “strategic”? The word assumes that some kind of strategy is in play.
Cruise missiles are made just for this job.
Fire away boys.
Possibly (but unlikely) there is no evidence of that might in the video. Those rusted Cold War relics, most probably not in running condition, don’t look particularly threatening. We see Some BMP-1, a BTR, a BRDM and a bunch of old T-54/54 plus some trucks. Those vehicles are literally half century old or older.
Yes. This is Soviet era stuff. Most likely supplied to the pro-Moscow Afghan government back last century and then parked somewhere cause no one gave a toss. There are some ZSU-23-4 vehicles in that video as well but they seem to have the guns removed.
So, yes in the land of the blind the man with the 60 year old tank runs over your house and kills you, but none of this is US equipment.
Yes, Captain Ice Cream did leave an insulting amount of equipment behind to keep all the abandoned US citizen’s company, but this video doesn’t show any of it.
Other than machine guns, do you really think the shepherds and assorted assholes can run computer technology?
They can hire folk who do. Do you think any of our illustrious leaders can run computer tech?
For sale. Highest bidder. Biden will probably give Iran the money to buy them.
99% of the Taliban can be illiterate muscle. Then you need a few thousand leaders able to use a radio, a map, and read orders and write reports. All it takes to support them are a few hundred to run the advanced communications, fix stuff, aim artillery and weapons like SAMs. Much of the last two groups can be imported, like Soleimani and his Iranian Revolutionary Guards are to the Shia in Syria and Lebanon.
Afghanistan will get some of these supports from the Pakistani ISI, just like they did in the 1990’s. I think the Chinese are too haughty, insular, and racist to provide support to the Taliban. The Russians have history and don’t want to support the savages that maimed and killed their soldiers. The Shia Iranians can work with the Sunni Taliban, but it will be difficult when those you support want to waste your heretic Shia butts.
The Taliban originally allowed the Sunni Al Qaeda into Afghanistan because of Bin Laden cash, some educated Sunni technicians, and a lot fanatical AQ Cannon Fodder to throw against Northern Alliance Soldiers.
I prey there will be a video of their first attempt to fly a Blackhawk helicopter. Queue the Benny Hill theme and pass the popcorn.
There are enough Afghan pilots, that some may be Taliban Quislings working undercover until called upon. Others are Afghan pilots that are now involuntary Taliban to keep their own families alive and unharmed (for a while).
When I was in the Forces we were always taught about denial of equipment to the enemy. Like the British at Dunkirk, you drain oil from engines and run them until they seize up…then burn the vehicles; a few well placed phosphoous grenades for aircraft would have been expedient; breech blocks for arty , small arms, etc into the nearest river, or a few seconds with a welding machine to disable them. Why didn’t any of that happen?
Obama handed a bunch of weapons to ISIS. Feature, not bug. Its all part of the endless war strategy of the MIC. Endless war overseas, endless lockdowns from the Medical Industrial Complex at home. Orwell was not paranoid enough.
Sure but weren’t all these meant for the Afghan army which absolutely no one could predict would all run away leaving this stuff for the Taliban?
What? Like the Iraqi Army and ISIS?
Y’all have the memory of mayflies.
And you seem to have no understanding of sarcasm.
That is a very good question. Retreating armies have always destroyed as much of their weaponry as possible. Does this indicate the USA actually thought the Afghan army was going to defeat the Taliban?
Don
Nope, the bad part. Many higher ups knew these Afghan troops would fail.
I have two close friends who are Rangers from WA state. They both said the Afghan are worthless and would run when the fighting got going.
Now we know the rest of the story.
Perhaps the Chinese will build some real schools, teach them some technical skills, instead of teaching them how to be gay and what have ye.
Justin can help. He’s a whiz at quantum physics (so I am told)!
The head Lezbeen General of The Canadian One-Armed Forces bought a dog just so she could kick it she was so mad because Canada loves buying used shit.
The reason is that when they try to buy new, it takes them 30 years to make up their minds. Its 11 years and counting for a fucking pistol that’s WWII era.
The Americans should just nuke the depot(s) with some cruise missiles when the Taliban are Allahuing each other.
“The Americans should just nuke the depot(s) with some cruise missiles when the Taliban are Allahuing each other.”
That’s probably what will wind up happening. Lord knows actual strategic use of our military assets to help our local economies is outta the question. The west is done, all we can do now is burn down our own cities, tell our kids its cool to be gay, arrest anyone who says otherwise, kill a bunch of babies, and bomb other’s cities.
The Taliban are a more viable culture than ours is now.
Quid-pro-quo Joe and Heels Up Harris along with the media will ignore everything to do with Afghanistan as they deem it is history and not a subject to ever be brought up again.
That’s politicians as they go into some other shit to make our lives miserable.
They’ll ignore it for a few months. Then the “Taliban is gassing children” shit will start up.
Military Industrial Complex makes money, Medical Industrial Complex makes money, in the meantime, we die, and Afghanis die.
At this point, the west delenda est.
I’m voting PPC, but I don’t hold any hope, as we all know now, elections don’t mean squat, if they did, Trump would still be prez.
Whatever Happened To Youthful Rebellion?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=txkipz6SNQA
“Its a civilization that’s just a negation of itself.”
I really like this guy.
According to this, The Taliban can be trusted to honour their commitments, as they have in the past. [threw me for a loop].
US and Taliban building a package deal
https://asiatimes.com/2021/08/us-and-taliban-building-a-package-deal/?mc_cid=994b4e4ae5&mc_eid=d319a92a71
The Taliban can be trusted more than the west can be. Evil is pretty predictable, especially Islamic evil, the west, though, they may decide that maleness is a sin and that Desmond is Amazing at the drop of a hat.
Joe Biden wanted out of Afghanistan in the Worst Way.
Joe Biden succeeded. He left Afghanistan just about the worst way possible.
How many Amricans are still in Afghanistan?
How many Canadians?
British?
French?
Dutch?
Belgian?
German?
Spanish?
Polish?
Czech?
Ukraine?
Turkish?
Egyptian?
Australian?
NZ?
Thai?
Korean?
Japanese?
Not to mention our Afghan Allies and Afghan mercenaries.
Its up to each country to take care of its own. Just because the west is utterly faggotized doesn’t mean the rest of the world is.
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The real question is. How many terrorist did biden just bring to America?
You darn well know there is no way to vet all of these people.
The lamentation of their women. We listened to ours, now look at us. Fuck the women, that’s what they’re for, once you lose sight of that, you are lost. Islam knows this, so does Christianity, before it got woke.
YeahWell, Are you some kind of frigging Neanderthal? Your post is disrespecting, even of your own Mother!
I wonder if you’ve had either bad experiences with females or with your own Mother, enough to cause your base attitude towards them to be so distasteful. I’m saddened by your poor attitude and thoughts about females. We are animals of this planet, but are we not better than most other animals, and those seventh century religious nutcases that treat human females as no better than cows and goats.
Yes females are different, as we are to them, but we are all equally human, and we should be supportive of each other, not consider them as lesser beings that are only useful for sex and child bearing. Yes, I too, objectify them, but I also worship them. I think true men are hard wired to objectify them, as that’s how we reproduce!
I don’t expect to be aware or sentient after I die, but If I were, the thing I think I would miss the most is not seeing all the beauty of human females. Most of your posts are thoughtful, enlightening and well stated, but you show yourself to be a lesser person with your attitude about females. I mean you no personal disrespect, but you too, should not disrespect Mothers, Sisters, and Daughters, as it also means you also disrespect all men as well. Are you not a better person than that?