Margin Of Fraud

From April 13, 2021;

The people who told them Trump “colluded with Russia” — are telling them the election wasn’t stolen.

The people who told them Trump said neo-Nazis were “fine people” — are telling them the election wasn’t stolen.

The people who told them Trump advised to “drink bleach” — are telling them the election wasn’t stolen.

If you want to them to believe the election wasn’t stolen, you’ll need to find new people.

47 Replies to “Margin Of Fraud”

  1. We have to get Lying Tucker off the air. Why doesn’t the USA have a respected non-partisan institution like the CRTC who decides what the public can and cannot watch?

    Ban him, ban Tucker Carlson for spreading wild conspiracy theories. H8 has no place in a progressive world, only tolerance and compassion.

    1. Here here! We already nuked rush next Tucker and hanity boomer man. No place for people who disagree with leftists (definition of a racist).

  2. You know, I seem to recall that Tucker did the hit job on Sidney Powell in the aftermath of the election, framing her as unhinged by suggesting that the facts she was quoting, that Tucker now accepts, were baseless.

    I’m glad he’s coming around. I just wish it were based on principle rather than perceptions of disconnection from his viewing audience.

  3. That thread just encapsulates everything. About the Deep State, our despicable media, and the extent to which sinister forces have infiltrated and taken over the levers of power in this country. And how “people like us” now see, understand, and feel about all this.

    I have to admit. I naively thought with the collapse of communism in the late 80s/early 90s that the left would see what I thought was clearly the writing on the wall that it was pretty much over for them and they’d maybe become productive members of society, or at least give up and aimlessly wander the streets. Sure, I figured there’d always be a large contingent in our universities, but that they wouldn’t necessarily present a threat to the larger society. Boy, was I ever wrong. They hunkered down, got to work and burrowed themselves into every segment of society.

    Now begins the hard work of extricating these filthy commies. Because I’m certainly not about to surrender our country to these worms.

  4. Ah, but you saw it because you wanted to see it. That’s why the government must do your watching and thinking for you.

  5. There’s a special room for those who need this level of understanding. For some it’s heights. For some it’s enclosed spaces. For some it’s rats. For some it’s red-wigged clowns. In the end, for your own good, you will come to love Big Brother.

    I really wish so many in positions of power weren’t using 1984 as a how-to.

  6. We need to be ultra-vigilant now, the election was stolen for specific reasons, some of which are not yet known, but seem to be connected to the pandemic. I read an interesting link over on Free Republic, claiming that five heads of state (Haiti and four African nations) have recently died in either obvious or suspected assassinations, and all five of them led countries that had refused to accept the WHO vaccines.

    Killing Trump would have been problematic (and he wasn’t refusing the vaccines), so a more subtle form of assassination was needed. Calling the Jan 6 events an insurrection is just meant to rub our noses in it. And those people who did those things (stole the election, set up the phoney insurrection) are traitors and deep state operatives who should be hanging from lamp-posts for their troubles. Perhaps one day they will in fact do just that. I am not optimistic.

    1. Are you sure about the site? Searching at the Free Republic site finds nothing like what you mentioned. Or was it a comment?

  7. Trump won 2497 counties compared to Biden’s 477.
    Trump won 18 bellwethers to Biden’s 1.
    Trump won Florida, Ohio, and Iowa, which are excellent indicators as to who would be the next president.
    Trump garnered 74,000,000 votes.
    But we’re supposed to believe that Biden, who’s rallies barely anyone had shown up to, won the election with 81,000,000 votes. The largest presidential vote count in American history.

    1. Is it any wonder that the Democrats are insane and see everyone as an enemy.
      They fully expected Washington was about to have a nation descend on their heads and the fences and National Guard was erected and deployed.

    2. “Trump won 2497 counties compared to Biden’s 477.
      Trump won 18 bellwethers to Biden’s 1.
      Trump won Florida, Ohio, and Iowa, which are excellent indicators as to who would be the next president.”

      He also kicked some ass in the Senate and the House (he flipped seats in *California*), but the media would have us believe people just voted against Trump but for the Republicans who enabled and supported him; problem is, 96% of voters vote ‘up and down the ticket’, so that’s pretty suspect. Also, only 5 states suddenly stopped counting when something like 17 others used the exact same procedures regarding mail-in ballots, but hours later there were hundreds of thousands of Biden ballots appearing out of the blue?…hey, wait…didn’t you *stop* counting? Hmmm…

      Joe Biden supposedly getting more black and Latino votes than Barack Obama did was also very suspicious, but what really did it for me was that one country with a military base coming in as 93% for Biden. Oh HELL NO…nope, not a chance. The rank-and-file military loved loved LOVED Donald Trump, and for good reasons:

      He bought them new equipment.

      He raised their wages.

      He pulled them *out* of war zones all over the world, where they shouldn’t have been in the first place.

      And he started fixing the problems with the VA.

      …and this is just on election night, and well before anyone noticed and reported any observed vote fraud. So yeah…there are some definite red flags there, for sure.

  8. Totally agree. Trump went from 13 points ahead in Pennsylvania to 1 point ahead at a time they said counting had finished for the day and scrutineers had been sent home.

  9. i did too from the UK. I was shocked that the steal was overt. Reminded me of elections I witnessed whileworking in Zimbabwe – the Zanu playbook.

    1. It wasn’t just overt, it became IN-YOUR-FACE. The perps want everyone to know that it is stolen so they will accept the mighty power of the fascist complex. And I use the term in it’s strict political definition sense,

  10. What he read about judges being afraid to hear the election fraud cases is true.
    Pray for Tucker and his family.
    They may very well need it – the police sure aren’t gonna show up in time.

    1. I encourage you to actually read the cases. If you want links I can provide them. The cases were rejected due to:

      – filed in the wrong jurisdiction (federal instead of state court)
      – lacking standing
      – laches doctrine (you cant challenge outcome of an election by complaining about an election law a year after it was passed)
      – not understanding state law (Philly case where the judge asked “is there a non zero amount of people in the room?”)
      – suing the wrong defendants
      – low quality affidavits

      On and on and on. The cases were mostly disasters. Several are now in the motions for sanctions phase. The ones that the Republicans/Trump won were for things like mailing ballot applications.

      1. alla ASShole,

        and Fynn’s case,???

        and Roger Stone’s case

        and Souvin’s case

        all examples of corrupted judiciary
        and the SCOTUS turning down Texas, “for no standing

        try reading some fucking law you asshole

          1. PO’ed, unfortunately, that’s irrelevant. I know a number of non-college educated folks who are smart as whips. And some gullible fools who have masters degrees or higher.

            AllanS is just a fool. Accreditation is secondary.

  11. Communism, socialism, fascism, who really cares how it is described in the ‘new’ dictionary. The bottom line is that there are certain people who desire to hold the ability to dictate how we live our lives. That is a fundamental truth. These people will use any and all means to gain and retain power. These are the same people that would dictate what you should eat for breakfast. They use fear to gain control whether by blaming a certain group or an occurrence, they capitalize on fear. They are as much a charlatan as the first witch doctor that convinced the tribe to throw a victim into the volcano. We haven’t advanced very far from the tribe that followed the order to select the victim.

  12. What is the point? Seriously. For argument’s sake, let’s say irrefutable proof is presented that shows that Biden lost the election. What then?

    Because the second an individual state (Arizona, Georgia, Pennsylvania etc…) takes a step forward and presents that documentation (regardless of how damnable)….the DOJ is going to step in and accuse the state investigation of being tainted…and THEN they are going to apply their full strength and authority to ruin anyone involved. The final step will be to state that they are taking over the investigation due to those fabricated affairs.

    Then…down the rabbit hole with a healthy dose of punishment to those state investigators to assure no one takes it upon themselves to look too closely in the future.

    Nothing….NOTHING…can be done until the DOJ is turned on its head and cleaned out…NOTHING.

  13. Tucker and Kate continuing the grift to the nth degree.

    We knew it was going to take a long time to count the mail in ballots. PA, MI, and WI can only begin *processing* the ballots on election day. Processing mail in ballots takes a LOT of time. PA, MI, WI, and GA can only begin counting on election day. Blame the state legislatures for that oversight.

    In WI the mail in ballots are added to the tally all at once. Another idiotic move mandated by the legislature. Yet this is also offered as “proof” of foul play. Hardly.

    Yes governors can change rules, the reason is complex. First, the elections clause does not override states constitution. The precedent is Arizona State Legislature v. Arizona Independent Redistricting Commission. Link below. Second, PAs election laws allow the judiciary to make changes which is exactly what happened. Act 77 as it stood, given the circumstances, violated the PA constitution so intervention was needed.

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arizona_State_Legislature_v._Arizona_Independent_Redistricting_Commission

    https://www.scotusblog.com/case-files/cases/republican-party-of-pennsylvania-v-degraffenreid-2/

    He is right that no judge will throw out votes because of a mistake by the government. There is also precedent for this. No judge will throw out ballots cast in good faith (following the rules, even if those rules are wrong). This has absolutely nothing to do with Trump. Give me a break.

    In short, Tucker is full of shit and up to his usual misleading and grifting. Yet you idiots eat it up.

    1. now try reading up on some actual facts, and cut out lefty bullshit. Trump was in the Eisenhower building watching things happen. In Penn he was 700,000 ahead, and then counting stopped, and things changed. This same type of action happened simultaneous in at least 4 states, all at the same time, and that is beyond coincidence, now quit proving you are mathematically stunted

        1. And the illegal rules change. Oh, if only someone had tried to bring the illegal rules change to the court… oh, that’s right. They did. And the court punted.

          Still smarting over Trump’s team winning 2/3 of the cases that were actually heard (proving their competence and that the evidence that is seen is on Trump’s side), or smug in your assumption that the fraud succeeded?

    2. “Yes governors can change rules, the reason is complex. ”

      Sure, governors can change rules…just not election laws. The US Constitution makes it very clear, which is why Texas sued 4 other states, that ONLY state legislatures can change the election laws in any given state (like authorizing mail-in voting, to name just one).

      Not the Governor.

      Not the Secretary of State.

      Not the election officials.

      Not the courts.

      The state legislature and ONLY the state legislature is permitted to make those changes. This is why the cowards on the US Supreme Court came back with a ruling of “no standing”…so they wouldn’t be forced to rule on the clearly unconstitutional electoral changes made without state legislature approval.

      Doesn’t matter now anyway, since the Maricopa County audit is drawing to a close and the Democrats are *panicking* in their effort to discredit it. Good luck with that; the list of ‘anomalies’ helpfully reported by Allan S are hilarious, and those that haven’t already been discredited (A Democrat observer tried the same but was quickly shot down by the facts) will be shown to be either lies, distortions or red herrings by all those 24 hour live-streaming cameras on site. Gonna be fun…!

  14. We’re not far away from getting results of the Arizona audit.

    The media has attempted to label the folks running the audit as incompetent rubes. That’s not correct. They know that the results will have to stand up in court and have acted accordingly.

    They also must have a communication plan in place to counter any attempts to bury the story. Luckily, the credibility of the press is lower than a snake’s belly.

    Interesting times ahead.

    1. – no experience with elections
      – no experience with election audits
      – blue pens on counting room floor, a huge rookie mistake
      – Cyber Ninjas CEO Doug Logan does the voiceover in the conspiracy theory movie “the deep rig”
      – that same movie was allowed in the “secure” ballot storage area for filming
      – the “secure ballot storage area” consists of temporary 8 foot chain link fencing
      – security was breached multiple times
      – they had no idea why the amount of ballots didnt match the pink slip. The answer is ballots where removed for duplication. Real auditors would know this.
      – Anthony Kerns name appears on the ballot. hes also an ardent Trump supporter. He worked for the audit for several weeks counting ballots. Whoops.
      – Real auditors dont release premature findings
      – Real audits dont have partisan Twitter accounts

      You are delusional of you think they are credible.

      1. Stay tuned. All of the talking points listed will be shown to be propaganda when the courts (kicking and screaming) will be forced to examine actual evidence from Arizona, Georgia and Pennsylvania – other states to follow.

        It has already been indisputably demonstrated in New Hampshire that election machines can’t be trusted. Look it up. Official results reported on election night were wrong – significantly.

        More to come. Your state of panic is not misplaced.

        1. You really should read the cases to understand why they didnt have the outcome you seek. Even if you submit evidence in one state that proves the certification was incorrect, it will be diamissed as moot.

          NH used ancient machines and they were not Dominion machines. Theres exactly zero jurisdictions where the hand count did not match Dominion machines.

      2. You still haven’t displayed the understanding between a recount and an audit.

        You say you have 30 apples. Your friend says “yup, 30 apples”. I look, and find 10 pictures of apples, 5 ceramic apples, 5 wax apples, 5 rotten apples, 5 real and edible apples. Do you see that the pictures of apples meet one standard, but not the real standard? You’re arguing that the pictures should be taken as the real thing. Assuming the count even shows the number of recorded ballots is anywhere close to the physical ballots on hand. That’s why the extra total ballot count is on at Maracopa. Because the count is off, likely way off. Which means that Trump was probably right (again).

        An audit is systematic, goes into (and through) the methods used, and tests the assumptions of what they’re told against what the data shows. “An election audit” is an audit. Period. It’s done properly, or not. Testing a smattering of machines and ballots is not an audit. Counting a portion of the actual ballots is not an audit. Looking at the machines without reviewing (and checking the change logs on) the code is not an audit. Assuming no outside communications without reviewing the hardware to ensure no wireless modems, and not reviewing the LAN routers, is not an audit.

        Sticking your fingers in your ears and shouting “we won! we won!” does not comprise an audit either.

        1. When they dont even understand what the laws are, or what the best practices are, there is a problem.

          1. The judges? Fully agreed. There might be hope for you yet!

            And you still haven’t answered the direct question about the difference between a recount and an audit. Should I try to explain using smaller words?

            And nothing about the illegal rules change above. Why, one would think you’re out of your depth.

    1. He/it reads a lot, apparently. Should be shifting gears, or in Unme’s case back to the lab.

  15. Allan,
    In case you haven’t seen Tucker Carlson’s piece on why many American people think the election was fraudulent (41% – according to Rasmussen) it’s worth a look.

    https://twitter.com/i/status/1413675917923262464

    Also, if you are supportive of the media line that the folks conducting the Arizona audit are ignorant rubes get ready to be informed otherwise. They fully understand the communications and court challenges facing them and are preparing accordingly.

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