A Conviction, Followed By A Police Investigation

NY Post;

The 20-year-old man charged with four counts of first-degree murder in the pickup truck attack against a Muslim family in Canada was described as a “nice guy” by co-workers — and had no known ties to hate groups.

Nathaniel Veltman is accused of killing Salman Afzaal, 46, his wife, Madiha, 44, their daughter Yumna, 15, and Afzaal’s 74-year-old mother — and injuring the couple’s 9-year-old son, Fayez.

The suspect worked part-time at Gray Ridge Egg Farms, an egg-packing facility in Strathroy, Ontario, CTV News reported.

In a statement, company CEO William Gray said management and staff “were shocked and saddened” to find out one of their workers had been charged in the attack. […]

Tina Perry, a former longtime co-worker of Veltman, told CTV News that he was a nice guy who kept to himself and was always available to help when someone needed it.

“He was always a nice guy,” she told the outlet. “I’ve never heard anything bad about him. I’m very shaken up about this.”

Global News;

The police chief said investigators were “trying to piece together what the thought patterns may have been and what led to him undertaking this act on so many,” as well as tracing his movements and what he may have been doing on the internet.

“Certainly we look for the online footprint. Everybody leaves one. Everybody’s on the internet, they’re on their phones every day, and it would form part of our investigation. So we would expect to find something. I don’t know what that will be, but it’ll form part of the investigation,” Williams said.

Wait. I was told they already knew everything.

27 Replies to “A Conviction, Followed By A Police Investigation”

  1. I recently read Alex Berenson’s book, ‘Tell Your Children’ – it covers psychotic events being connected to regular, daily cannabis use especially amongst young men. It would be interesting to know if ‘Nathanial’ used cannabis regularly?

    1. Maggie

      Spare me pls…with the Reefer Madness BS.

      This shooting REEKS of a LIBERAL False Flag op.
      How utterly convenient for them – just before an election. This makes 3 now. Quebec Mosque (there WERE 2 shooters), Hijabi Girl and now this.

      Even at the outset, something does not add up…

      1. Neither in my estimation. Just a narrative in search of a crime.

        Por ejemplo …

        For years upon years blacks and homeless men committed street crimes against feeble, elderly Chinese in San Fransisco. No one cared or noticed. Until. Until the left decided to BLAME TRUMP for Asian “HATE crime”. Then, suddenly … every one of these street crimes were reported as “Trump’s fault”. The narrative finally found some crimes. The FALSE narrative. The crimes didn’t make narrative any less FALSE.

    1. I agree…
      The Mainstream Media chooses another story to sensationalize and victimize.

    2. Just like the “anti-Asian” hate crimes in the states. The man who shot female workers in massage parlors. The news didn’t mention the white women he shot. It went against their narrative.

      1. Did I miss the names of the white people this douche nozzle in London killed?

  2. They consider this terrorism, but it’s acceptable for muslims to gather in Toronto and threaten the Jewish population.
    What liberals can’t grasp is that identity politics separates everyone into groups, and there is less and less identification as fellow citizens.

    1. Mr. Swift, I wish that I could upding this.

      Political multiculturalism and a casual (read: lazy) immigration policy designed only to boost Liberal voter numbers has fractured society to the point where this crime might as well have been committed elsewhere for all the communion these people had with everyone else. In death, they are elevated only to further the political ends of a politician or group, not because murder is a moral evil.

      Of course the powers-that-be had NOTHING to say about the Jew-hatred they allowed into the country (as they would the many churches attacked during Christmas and Easter but I guess African, Indonesian and Sri Lanka Christians have it coming because of residential schools or something) but are quite willing to make political hay out of whatever random event happens because it serves a s distraction from the incompetence and moral corruption going on at the moment (oh, hi, Bill C-10).

      I’m in the “I just don’t care anymore” camp. Life has no value in this airport we call Canada.

      Stick a fork in us. We’re done.

  3. This is terrorism, Danforth rampage was mental illness and we have always been in was with Eastasia. Double plus ungood.

  4. #MoslemLiesMatterMore

    Fuck the press. Ever hear of Nick Sandmann?
    Politicians have a duty to respect the judicial process and not one of the SOB’s has done that.
    Declaring this act a hate crime or even just purposeful is prejudicial and obstructive from an elected official.
    Every legislator at any level should automatically be removed from power for obstructing justice for declaring a person guilty of a crime.
    How can a judge or jury not be influenced by this massive propaganda?
    No way dude is getting a fair trial when the media/political trial has already convicted him.

  5. And maybe, just maybe, he had a psychotic rift because of being locked up due to COVID. The police acted very unprofessionally by calling the incident a hate crime without any evidence – stirring the judicial pot by presenting facts that were not in evidence to the media and to the public at large before the investigation was over or had even started. Worse, the public sheep bought it – the police never, ever lie, do they? And now, his defender will have a field day in court with a trial already tainted by the police because they couldn’t keep their mouths shut.

    My condolences to the relatives of the deceased, and the police botched this one badly.

  6. I knew it. I knew this was a bunch of BS as soon as sock boy got involved. Doesn’t matter now though because this kid will rot in jail forever now.

    1. I doubt he will still be breathing in a couple of months, max.

      “Extra-legal punishment”: There seems to be bit of it about.

  7. I am wondering if this is just another “George Zimmerman shot a child just because he Black and was wearing a hoodie” or “The white farmer shot Colten Boushie when all he was doing was looking for help with a flat tire”.

    I will reserve judgement until the trial when all the facts come out. It could be as simple as he fell asleep at the wheel. I suspect that part of the outrage has to do with the fact that the radical sector of the Muslim Community recently had 70% of their charities lose their status because of ties to terrorism. They are claiming that is Islamophobia. Canada’s version of CAIR, National Council of Canadian Muslims has been front and centre of this. They also need to counter all the press about Jews being attacked by Muslims during the recent war in Israel.

    https://www.gatestoneinstitute.org/4152/canada-cair-can-nccm

    Am I the only one who noticed the many half page advertisements for Aid to Palestinian Victims charities on the CBC page where they were covering the latest Hamas attacks on Israel? No conflict of interest there.

  8. Police forces are owned by left wing politicians who see them as armed social workers. It’s a bad combination, all the bad apples rise to the top.

  9. I don’t know what happened. A lynch mob mentality immediately took over. I’d prefer to wait and see what the facts are.
    Unfortunately in Canada this takes place over a period of years with publication bans. The narrative must be controlled.

    Who knows what goes on in a person’s head. This kid is going to spend the best years of his life in prison unless he has a compelling story to tell that a jury will buy.

  10. Note the difference between the NYP story and Global, it can be said mass media cartel of Canada in general.
    The NYP is simply reporting a story, no wind, no flavor, no spices.
    The Canadian media cartel is full on propaganda without knowing anything else than a guy in a truck run in and killed people.
    That he killed people is a bloody sad.
    Most of the rest is a massive propaganda.
    Got to tell you, certain Goebbels had nothing on these propagandists, they would make him proud.

  11. “Asked about the truck, as well as a helmet and body armor Veltman was allegedly wearing, Williams said it was part of the investigation. He said he did not know whether Veltman’s clothing had swastikas on it, as some witnesses have reported.”

    how does he not know this when the clothing is in the possession of the police, and this is a high profile case?

  12. Leaving aside everything else, has any media sources joined the dots with previous terrorists from London Ontario? Three local men travelled to North Africa in 2012 and carried out AQ led sophisticated attack on gas plant in Algeria – nearly 40 murdered. Two of them died, one arrested in Mauritania (subsequently released and living in London).
    Also, 2016 Aaron Driver shot by police when preparing ISIS inspired attack.

    Any media or source pick this up? Sort of busts the White Supremacy narrative, maybe just coincidence.

    https://amp.france24.com/en/20130402-canada-reels-after-two-its-own-linked-algeria-attack-amenas?__twitter_impression=true

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-37042260

  13. IOW “we need time to put a frame up together which fits the race crime narrative the DA has been instructed to pursue by globalist factions in government who hope to use the incident to pass internet censorship laws” – did I get that about right?

  14. The police have been careful not to call this a terrorist attack, unlike some politicians.
    And from the few details, he doesn’t seem a guy capable of a considered political motive.
    But anger certainly is part of his MO.
    //
    Though cases in which vehicles are used to kill people can certainly be planned, there is also an element of randomness in many of them, said Mary McCord, a visiting professor at Georgetown University and a former U.S. Department of Justice official.
    “There are some of those types of attacks . . . in which the driver sees somebody that appears to be either of a different race or a target and engages in that type of opportunistic attack,” she said, adding: “This would appear to be one of those ‘opportunistic’ cases.”
    https://lfpress.com/news/local-news/driver-in-alleged-hate-killings-wore-body-armour-what-does-that-tell-us
    //
    Love some of the “theories” here; perhaps the “Liberal false flag op” could be elaborated a bit.
    Which “flag” are we to blame?

    If the perp were Muslim, instead of a home-schooled Christian, there would be none
    of the “troubled kid” speculation.
    Being Muslim would be all the explanation needed.

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