The Sound Of Settled Science

Shut up, they argued;

“Physicians must not make comments or provide advice that encourages the public to act contrary to public health orders and recommendations,” the statement said before going on to issue a warning.

“Physicians who put the public at risk may face an investigation by the CPSO and disciplinary action, when warranted.”

49 Replies to “The Sound Of Settled Science”

  1. THAT more than any other single horrific event of this entire pandemic has convinced me something nefarious and awful that has nothing to do with any virus, is going on.

    1. This is the nefarious “Agenda 2030 et el” Klaus Schwab economic reset of the World Economic Forum. But, just like my CNN watching neighbours who just bragged about getting their “jabs” he was totally unaware of this reset, had never heard of the side effects of the “vaccine”, and did not believe that the government would manipulate the numbers and lie about the crisis of the overwhelming ICU departments across the Province. Good thing it was a phone conversation, as I was gobsmacked by his statements.

      The economies of the world are grinding to a halt (except all those people using Amazon, Costco, and major box stores who are contributing to the small business kills) by refusing to not participate in the lockdowns and closures. If, just like Italy, all the restaurants and small business chose a day to reopen and tell the government to get out of the way of people scraping by to make a living, we could get back to normal. People still getting seasonal illnesses, still being human.

      Jason Kenny, Doug Ford, and all the other Premiers who impose lockdowns, curfews and restrictions will be seeking other employment in the next election cycle….I hope. (not holding my breath, as the sheeple are being to trained to take their daily beatings and then ask for more beatings)

      Sad days for many freedom loving people worldwide.

  2. This isn’t about the virus anymore, it’s a prelude to something much bigger and more insidious.
    And it isn’t a left vs.Right either but rather us versus the elites. We’d better wake up because they’ve got us right where they want us and aren’t going down without a fight.
    It’s a trifecta of tyranny – Unions, Media and malevolent governments…that would be plural, because you need your head read if you think the CPC has got your back.
    Don’t like being a bummer this early in the morning but never in history have freedoms been restored by the same government that took them.
    We’ve got our work cut out for us.

    1. Burton, a year or two ago I would have scoffed at your comment as tin foil hat or conspiracy theory. Not so much any more. Never thought I would ever live through something like this.

  3. I’m registered as a professional engineer in 3 provinces. The first clause in the respective codes of ethics clearly states that the public welfare must come first.

    Evidently, it appears that the CPSO thinks that something like that doesn’t apply to them.

    Yesterday, in the tips thread, I posted a link to one of Bill Still’s recent YouTube videos. In it, a physician and medical researcher voiced his skepticism, including the fact that his colleagues are required to speak with one voice.

    Yup, YouTube took it down because it violated YT’s “Community Guidelines”. I wonder why……

    1. B A the only community guide line that is in effect is you have to lie and never tell the truth about anything.

    2. Professional Associations, of which I’m still a member of one (Professional Geologist), are the biggest conformists around. You vill comply or elze. I conducted low grade warfare for years with one of the two Provincial associations I belonged to, using their own damned obscure legislation against them, before they called a truce. It was a less than a “professional relationship” to say the least. The other one just wanted my money and get lost. Membership money seemed to smooth all bumps in the road. Well they both did and treated their lessor cam-padres like something stuck to their boot.

    3. Professional associations that enjoy “right to practice” protections are an example of guild socialism and in health care the submission to the state is a logical extension of that privilege. Single payer systems essentially translate to he who pays the piper calls the tune and despite the perception that taxpayers pay the piper, the state is in control and the ovine masses are OK with that because most believe that they will get back more than they put in and due to the “magic” of deficits and debt, those at the beginning of the Ponzi scheme win.

      1. Professional associations that enjoy “right to practice” protections are an example of guild socialism

        Hardly that. Those associations were established through legislation. Those laws exist to ensure public safety by specifying who may practice in those disciplines and what the requirements for doing so are.

        In the case of professional engineering, there were too many mishaps involving machinery or structures that were poorly designed and/or constructed.

        Think about this: would you like to cross a bridge or be in a building that was designed by someone who wasn’t properly qualified? Would you like to drink contaminated water?

        1. Do you actually believe that without laws preventing suicide everyone would commit suicide? Would I cross a bridge that was designed by a chimpanzee? no. Would a chimpanzee be able to insure a bridge he designed? no. Do structures designed by P. Eng’s collapse? Some do, and their insurers charge premiums accordingly. Government granted monopolies invite incestuous behavior.

          I would trust a professional association more if they had no “right to practice” monopoly because they could self-police outside the political realm and promote themselves accordingly.

          I was a member of a professional association and am now glad to be retired.

          1. I’ve dealt with some self-proclaimed engineers and the majority of them weren’t all that bright or good at what they did. The work they did reflected their qualifications.

  4. “Don’t you see that the whole aim of Newspeak is to narrow the range of thought? In the end we shall make thoughtcrime literally impossible, because there will be no words in which to express it.”

    “The masses never revolt of their own accord, and they never revolt merely because they are oppressed. Indeed, so long as they are not permitted to have standards of comparison, they never even become aware that they are oppressed.”

  5. I wonder if all those who are putting the public at risk as lab rats in this massive experimental “not vaccine” program, will be held responsible for the thousands that have already died worldwide, and the adverse reactions that are now in the hundreds of thousands. Of course none of that is going to happen in Canada, because as soon as the shot was administered in Canada it turned into a pristine perfect example of medical expertise. No problems here, right?

    1. Never happen. And they will wreck your professional standing or status if you don’t stick with the herd.

  6. I’m aware that Naturopaths and Chiropractors have also been warned that they cannot offer or suggest alternative treatments to Covid. They are also not allowed to offer a differing opinion on the vaccines.

    1. Naturopaths and chiropractors. LOL.
      Are you saying snake oil salesmen are not being allowed to offer snake oil alternates?

      1. Well look at you providing cover for the dictator like Federal government, media and Health Authorities. Do you always miss the point while adding to the silencing of differing opinions? Take a fucking guess as of to who would recommend proper vitamin D dosing, your GP or a Naturopath. When’s the last time you heard sound advice from a medical doctor regarding anything Covid?
        You don’t have to buy in to anything a chiropractor or Naturopath provide but you should have a serious problem with the silencing and threats they’ve received.

        1. I trust medical doctors, dentists, and other highly educated professionals.
          Naturopaths and chiropractors are not highly educated professionals.
          If you want to trust naturopaths and chiropractos then good for you. Have at it. If you believe horseradish will cure your kid’s meningitis then good for you.
          If your naturopath wants to inject you with sugar water to protect you from COVID then go for it. I don’t care. A sucker is born every minute.

          https://toronto.citynews.ca/2019/06/04/alberta-naturopath-tells-trial-she-suggested-sick-boy-go-to-emergency/

          1. You know dick all about chiropractors if you think they aren’t highly trained professionals. Most naturopaths are as well, in different areas , obviously. You also have no idea how many conditions there are that conventional doctors don’t have a clue about/ don’t know how to treat. I have Crohn’s disease (considered autoimmune), arthritis, asthma, neck and shoulder issues from a car accident. Throw pain pills at you and suppress your immune system is their answer, which steals havoc. If I had not done my own research re: treatment (particularly for the Crohn’s and arthritis), and got hooked up with an excellent chiropractor who is also a naturopath, I have little doubt I’d be dead right now. Then I also found a doctor open to alternative treatments, which most aren’t. Unfortunately two years ago I moved out of NY, where these people practice, and haven’t found any medical people nearly ad good in my new state.

        2. Back in the day, my GP was did indeed check my Vitamin D level and recommend a supplement.

  7. Leftards could be signing their own death warrant, on this one.

    The government interfering in a doctor’s ability to honestly communicate is two huge steps over the line. Now, we watch to see if testicles are something your average Canadian doctor possesses…. or are most of them firmly planted in the well-off world of establishment elites. I don’t hold much hope.

  8. This isn’t at all like the way the medical establishment in Germany fully supported the Nazis.

  9. They keep using the word “Risk” like it’s the dark bogeyman under a five year old’s bed. Covid is a small risk compared to everything else in our lives. What the Gov’t argues isn’t reasonable or balanced. It needs to be legally challenged in court with a vigorous fact based defense. I didn’t vote for doctor muzzling tyranny along with the vast majority of Canada. We want our Rights and Freedoms BACK.

  10. Finally, it should be noted that some Canadian news agencies have quoted Dr. Bullard as testifying that a positive PCR tests indicates infectivity 99.9% of the time. This is incorrect. Rather, Dr. Bullard testified that a PCR test will detect any viral RNA that is present in a sample 99.9% of the time. However, Dr. Bullard testified that determining whether or not a sample is actually infectious (containing a viable virus, capable of replicating) needs to be confirmed by lab culture. As noted, only 44% of the “positive” samples using a Ct of 18 returned a viable lab culture. Samples tested at a Ct of over 25, according to Dr. Bullard’s report, produced no viable lab cultures.
    Manitoba has confirmed that it utilizes Ct’s of up to 40, and even 45 in some cases. This indicates “cases” resulting from such tests (above a Ct of 25) are almost certainly not actually infectious.
    The hearing into Manitoba’s response to Covid and its violation of Charter rights and freedoms continues this week.

    https://www.jccf.ca/manitoba-chief-microbiologist-and-laboratory-specialist-56-of-positive-cases-are-not-infectious/

    1. This is a very important post, and worthy of being a subject in its own right. Thank you for informing us William.

      “only 44% of the “positive” samples using a Ct of 18 returned a viable lab culture. Samples tested at a Ct of over 25, according to Dr. Bullard’s report, produced no viable lab cultures.
      Manitoba has confirmed that it utilizes Ct’s of up to 40, and even 45 in some cases. This indicates “cases” resulting from such tests (above a Ct of 25) are almost certainly not actually infectious.”

      In laymans language, when the nightly hour of fear is broadcast on your TV and they announce (say) 1000 new cases of Wuhan Flu, discount that number to 440 cases (or less). It also explains why huge numbers of Wuhan Flu cases treat themselves at home and do not require ANY medical intervention-because that PCR tested “Covid patient” likely has nothing worse than seasonal flu, which the nightly hour of fear would attempt to convince us has disappeared from the face of earth.

  11. This makes it clear that CPSO is being controlled by someone at a political level. The public health departments are themselves political entities, and their directives derive from quasi governmental organizations such as WHO. They also are beholden to their political masters. So now, CPSO tries to prevent their own members from expressing their views based on their personal experience and scientific knowledge. CPSO has become a travesty. They are catering to the power elite, just like everyone else. They clearly are not supporting their members or respecting the professional judgement of members. All doctors should be challenging this. The directive is particularly unconscionable when everyone is seeking solutions to a difficult situation. Much valuable information has come from independent voices — including information on the usefulness of HCQ and Ivermectin. So my question is, who is CPSO taking orders from?

  12. The public health departments are the ones who recommended lockdowns. Yet this is an example of a policy that has utterly failed, and endangered the economy and the lives of many. This conclusion is contained in a recent study from Simon Fraser professor Douglas W. Allen. His study concluides that mandatory lockdowns have been largely ineffective, and that they may well have cost lives: https://torontosun.com/opinion/columnists/furey-new-canadian-study-breaks-down-ineffectiveness-and-harms-of-lockdowns

    You can find a pdf of the study online. It would be nice if someone in the Ontario government took a look at it. Right now we are looking at more pointless lockdowns extending through June, including preventing people from enjoying outdoor activities like golf. The Conservative government in Ontario has totally gone off the rails. People are tolerant of reasonable restrictions, but the current draconian lockdown accomplishes nothing. Exactly how many “transmissions” will you prevent among people who are not sick and who are simply enjoying exercise and the outdoors? I’ll bet Christine Elliot did not even bother to ask this question of her public health advisors.

    1. They won’t. They’re in narrative preservation mode, and their political survival depends on its preservation. So they’re going to use their big stick to beat down any opposition, as well as any information that casts doubt on the validity of their narrative.

  13. I wonder if the specialists who went public stating that the Government-imposed four-month wait between Pfizer doses is idiotic and might render the first dose useless have been sanctioned yet. Surely that particular fact was never meant to get out?…

  14. Totalitarian diktat begins with sophisticated language with hopes that the proletariat takes it as profound.
    Once accepted, the distortions, lies, omissions and other such low life tactics are easy to install the limits to freedom.
    It’s all for the “GREATER GOOD” as the big brother would say.

  15. These bastards need to be pilloried in the village square so us lowly serfs can throw excrement at them: “No talking. Here, eat some of this.”

  16. This comment of Doug Ford is all you need to know about the INTEGRITY & Intelligence of EVERY one of our Slack Jawed Premiers in this Country:

    “..“I’m going to be very frank. There’s no politician in this country that is going to disagree with their chief medical officer. They just aren’t going to do it. They might as well throw a rope around their neck and jump off a bridge. They’re done,”

    What we have is a bunch of BRAIN DEAD Trough Feeding useless Garbage….taking ORDERS from some unelected Leftist bureaucrat.

    You were voted in to lead – not follow.

    Goes to show how little Actual INTELLIGENCE, Critical thinking and Utter lack of BALLS anyone of these gutless (_i_)holes has….pretty much ZERO on all counts.

    1. Absolutely spot on. You just have to look into the eyes of Scott Moe and see that he’s not an intelligent man. The fact that he’s a coward like the rest of the Premier’s just adds to the problem.

  17. So, on one hand, the plan to increase vaccination rates is by encouraging people to talk to health care professionals about any concerns or questions. Implying that the doctors nurses, pharmacists will answer those questions honestly and with the health of the patient being the primary concern.

    On the other hand, government agencies and professional organizations are telling health care providers that if they deviate from the government’s policies or narrative then they will be punished. Basically, telling them to read only from the supplied script….or else.

    This contradiction destroys any confidence that advice given is truly the honest opinion of the doctors, nurses or pharmacists. It also destroys the high minded ideal that the health of the individual patient is the primary concern for health care providers. This knowledge will increase the distrust from those who are already concerned about the vaccine, imo.

  18. C’mon man, the comments was only aimed at “a small group of physicians spreading blatant misinformation … encourag(ing) the public to act contrary to public health orders and recommendations.”

    Oh really!! Yes that would be very bad. So detail the blatant misinformation, which doctors do it, and how they direct or exhort anyone to break any law, or order, or recommendation. Name names or STFU must be the response, not PC surrender crap.

    The public needs to know, and so the doctors’ lawyers, accused of malpractice for not following their recommendations.

    The medical establishment, in concert with state oligarchs and media mediocres, have the science right as Brian points out.

    “While now the CPSO is warning doctors not to express anti-masking views, at the start of all this, the top public health officials were all warning that wearing a mask might be more dangerous than not wearing one. We were also told that only those exhibiting symptoms could spread COVID, that shutting down travel would not help stop the spread of the virus and even that human-to-human contact wasn’t possible.”

  19. I just wrote a scathing letter to the College of Physicians of BC in response to their over-reach May 6th letter telling BC doctors to basically tow the public health official line. I reminded the College that legislation created their existence, so can be pulled.

    As well, I said I have a brain and seek different opinions, so shutting up mostly private sector doctors is not only unscientific, but also unethical and an egregious breach of their mandate. Thanks to Brian Lilley and Kate!

    An example of dumb health authority rules: we are not supposed to cross health region boundaries. Thousand of people come from Frazer Health to Vancouver Coastal daily and vice versa.

    1. Thousand of people come from Frazer Health to Vancouver Coastal daily and vice versa.

      Applying logic to political diktats will get you nowhere L. You will be asking us to believe that Bonnie “Henny Penny” Henry is not an obfuscating liar next, or make-law-up-on-the-fly Solicitor General Make Thingsworse understands his job.

  20. Posted in Reader Tips but also relevant here. Light at the end of the covid? Is the mask off the almost always wrong IYI crowd?

    https://rumble.com/vgzj1b-ron-desantis-grants-clemency-on-live-tv-to-florida-couple-for-not-mandating.html

    Watch as history repeats itself this summer, as deaths fall like 2020, us locked down awaiting vaccine, but also the next “wave.”
    Last fall they got us all into masks. What do they have in store this year? Was that my out loud voice? Is C-10 passed yet?
    My gym on the far left coast must make us wear masks during strenuous exercise, which is counterproductive, to “stay safe.”
    What’s next, no fluids allowed, take your steroid shot on the way in, or whatever other counterintuitive stupidity possible?

    1. That’s awful – masks while exercising. I actually have read somewhere that that is bad for your health. Downright sinister.

  21. I may be laughed at for what i am about to say, well so be it.
    In my mind and by reading the Book of Revelations, there is a direct correlation to what is happening now. All one has to do is read the parable of the fig truth that Jesus spoke of. In it he states a fig tree is planted and it grows strong roots. Then it starts to flower and distribute its fruit. It does this for a generation and then dies. Now a author name of Amir Tsarfati says a generation is from 70 to 100 years in the Bible. Another author who wrote of Revelations in 1919 says a generation is 80 years. Now to understand the parable, you have to realize Jesus is speaking of Isreal. Isreal as a state was formed in 1948, That is the fig tree was planted 72 years ago. We are getting close to end times and no one knows when this will happen, but it will.
    Therefore, whatever we see happening is all a part of God’s will. There is nothing truly we can do but recognize this fact and be at peace with Jesus in our lives. If you haven’t got Jesus in your heart, then ask for him to forgive all your sins and dedicate your life to him and you will be saved. Those who do not believe will be left on Earth until the end and it is not going to be pleasant. We are getting closer everyday and lately it sure has seemed to pick up speed. They are truly pushing the one world governnment on us and not even hiding that fact anymore.
    All of this has been prophesied in the Bible. May God have mercy on the sinners of this world. Look around at all the decay that is becoming more and more apparent.
    This is my humble opinion, take it however you want. Have a nice day and God Bless.

    1. I am not laughing. Though I don’t actively practice a religion, I believe the current crisis is spiritual in nature. We have disconnected ourselves from spiritual reality, and we are paying a price for our hubris, godlessness and ignorance.

  22. How many doctors and other officials claimed that the disaster at Chernobyl was like getting a chest x-ray well before people truly understood the terrible and massive scope of the catastrophe?

    Ladies and gentlemen, meet the new apologists for the new Chernobyl.

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