The federal Conservatives revealed their climate plan on Thursday and proposing a $20-per-tonne carbon price — lower than the Liberals’.
The plan is a major shift in policy, as the party has previously threatened to scrap the program introduced by Prime Minister Justin Trudeau in 2018.
Conservative Leader Erin O’Toole announced the climate policy Thursday morning, saying “Canadians cannot afford Trudeau’s carbon tax.”
Tar. Feathers. Some assembly required.
Western MPs I spoke to this morning tell me that they learned about it all in the news. O’Toole never had the approval from his caucus – let alone his party – for such a flip-flop.
Huh, walking the Liberal tax back to its March 2021 level. Radical.
Liberal-lite
You still can have Max https://www.peoplespartyofcanada.ca/
The Toole sucks donkey dick … enough said about what I feel is the biggest clown to ever lead the conservatives.
Those who voted him leader must have shit for brains.
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gangbanger in court…
“but, your honour… i only shot him with a .32 calibre pistol.”
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To help us buy a bike, bus pass or electric vehicle?
How about giving me a big credit for growing a lot of grass?
Coulda had Max.
I’d happily settle for Pierre Poilievre right now. TBF, pretty much anybody but The Tool.
Not even out of the gate and he’s already torpedoing his own party.
I’m beginning to wonder if it’s intentional.
Definitely is intentional or he would be lying like the rest of the politicians do until election and then screw the public.
Been going on for generations now.
It’s why they ALL state new beginnings and nothing changes when they do get elected as everything gets worse.
With few exceptions, the whole CPC caucus can take a long hike off a short pier. They are set up to be decimated in the next election and they have fully earned it.
The Media would have this Fool bending knee and crying for the cameras is how pliable this asshole is.
Biden better not stop moving as this Fool nose would be jambed in the crack as soon as he did.
Some Conservatives think that the way to win elections is to move left.
Wrong!
They can never out-left the Liberals or NDP. So any move in that direction will just be Liberal-Lite. This will tick off the conservatives and those who like to vote left will opt for the real thing, so the effect will be to lose votes from the right and gain nothing from the left.
Pleasing your enemies does not make them your friends.
Besides which, ramping down Trudeau’s carbon tax will just earn them condemnation from the global warmunists for not taking climate change seriously and “pandering to fossil fuel companies”.
Far better to be true to conservative principles and the truth and lose, than to move left and lose bigger.
(I have to wonder – if a carbon tax is intended to make fossil fuels so expensive that we switch to alternatives (which don’t currently exist) and it gets refunded in some way, how is that an incentive to switch if you get most or all of it back?)
Agreed. Reform Party gave the Liberals room to balance the budget. Reform Party, despite never forming government, had enormous impact on policy. I believe it was the most effective party at advancing conservative policy in the last 50 years. However, Manning wanted laurels rather than results and in the end 96% voted to welcome in the PC’s rather than annihilate. The worm turned the host into a worm.
The tool is just giving Trudeau more room to move more left. Squeezes NDP too. Disenfranchises conservatives from CPC (I’ll vote PPC). Big Liberal majority coming soon.
Thumbs up
The Reform party accomplished nothing.
Dirtman, “far better to be true to conservative principles and the truth and lose”
I whole heartedly AGREE!
That’s the disease of many a Conservative Party politician throughout history.
They seem to think that by catering to the left they’ll garner more votes.
Instead what happens is that they are rejected by the left. I mean why vote Liberal lite, when you can for for Liberal Party original.
And the right become so disgusted by their left wing catering, that they abandon them.
Then your Conservative Party politician is left standing there wondering what the hell happened.
Then the whole process starts all over again.
Maverick Party,,, start getting your ducks in a row !
Who vetted Erin? Did nobody in the Conservative party ask the man what his views were on anything?
But then again, the gatekeepers of the federal cons are converged and grasping for as much power as they can. They have been staring at the headlights of the Liberals for so long, they no longer have any vision for and of all things Conservative/conservative.
Pierre Poilievre is a level-headed deep thinker who is a bright star on the political horizon. His family is his priority at the moment, and that elevates his credibility immensely, leading from the back of the pack instead of following the likes of Erin the Fool over the cliff to the Kim Campbell abyss.
Jim2, all the people currently in the Conservative Party of Canada brain trust, the ones who have been running the show in the smokey back rooms from Harper’s time to the present? They already have their resumes mailed to the Maverick Party.
The long march never stops. People who say “gatekeeping be bad, m’kay?” are the problem. FYI.
I have an email from someone I have never personally met (and seems likely I never will), about setting up a Maverick Party riding association for Carlton Trail-Eagle Creek. Maybe I should volunteer to be the interim something or other until we have enough people for the first AGM. I can start my personal gatekeeping, there.
“I am sending this email to you to give you an update about what is happening in your riding. The Maverick Party wants Carlton Trail-Eagle Creek to be the next riding in Saskatchewan to have an Electoral District Association form. That being said, we will only be scheduling a formation meeting when enough people have indicated to me that they are willing to step up and be on the interim executive board for the Carlton Trail-Eagle Creek EDA.”
Like a good politician, he holds views on nothing, stands for nothing and supports everything.
Anyone from the mindless mushy middle gene pool who thinks the carbon tax is a good idea (equivalent to the 21st century version of the baby soother of earthly salvation from “climate change”) would see that an insincere lighter version of me too Liberalism offered as conservative policy brilliance would likely conclude in voting for the real thing. The current crop of twenty-something poly-sci graduates advising the Toole might realize this after the next election which they have now lost.
The cycle is complete. The reform party did not take over the conservative wing It was eaten by the progressive party. Now after a big #2 all that is left is a progressive party. Does the same as the Libs but slower.
Hey, Scheer I mean O’Toole I mean Clark I mean next guy is our “only chance to defeat Trudeau”.
Drooling morons have been telling us that for 2, 3, 67 leaders now. Surely The Colon, or Oz, or one of the others is correct! This time for sure.
What is the complete list of political parties that have failed us all?
Progressive Conservative
Conservative Party of Canada
Reform
Social Credit
Co-operative Commonwealth Federation (CCF)
Wildrose
Saskatchewan
United Conservative
My advice? Stop listening to anyone who is making claims that they are coming to save you. Listen to people who tell you things that you do not want to hear but need to be told. Someone forming a “new party”? That is the first strike against them.
How many times are you all going to fall for the “your last spouse/party did not take care of you like you deserved, but we will for sure”?
You forgot Syanfield, the best Prime Minister Canada never had, as the Liberals like to point out in jocular fashion.
Independent candidates, sir.
That is what I have to say.
OK, If I don’t vote for you I might vote for myself next election.
Kevin there are a lot of COLONs and Oozes around , who think Max bad bc he’s from queerbeck, and he may even be a flop if he got power, but if more had abandoned the Cuckservative last election , there may have been an actual conservative and a real leader at the head of the CPC
“….but if more had abandoned the Cuckservative last election….”
… Trudeau would have a majority you dumb useless twat.
Maxipad could not even hold on to his own seat because he is as dumb and useless twat as you Kevin and the rest of Trudeu’s low rent, well lubed, cabana boys.
You’re a liar, Kevin. I’ve made it clear many times that I’m done with Canaduh.
It’s also a lie that we coulda had Max. Did Maxime run against O’toole for the CPC leadership? No.
Why was that? Because Maxime has no vision. He started his own cult instead of staying in the party and running again.
“Someone forming a “new party”?”
When Preston Manning formed the Reform party they took all but four seats in Alberta and dominated British Columbia as well.
The party also won four seats in Saskatchewan and one seat in Manitoba the first election that they ran in.
Contrast that with Maxime’s People’s Party which had one single seat and LOST that seat to…wait for it…the CPC!
Yes, the people of Beauce, who the Berniers had name recognition with for 2 generations voted Maxime OUT and a CPC candidate in.
Maxime Bernier is quite the loser. How is it that you coulda had him again? Doesn’t he have to WIN?!?
This fool is the best advertisement for Max and Wexit.
No need for The Spawn to call an election. It’s over.
They’ll be sliced an diced, no different on policy from Liberals, who aren’t in league with white supremacists; just ask CBC.
Once again, with the progressives back in charge, the Conservatives are snatching defeat from the jaws of victory.
Not the bold leadership desperately needed in Canada, just PC (both versions) pablum to mollify 905ers, to hell with the rest.
Trying to be approximately right, ending up precisely wrong, iow, losing the election. Very discouraging power play by O’Toole.
Unsurprising given the obtuse attitudes I’ve experienced from some of my eastern friends, soon to be in a foreign country.
Anybody who thinks that’s just hyperbole should check around as our PM sits atop the polls at the bottom of covid efficacy.
Who sits atop of the polls despite borrowing $billions frivolously, the Bank of Canada buying its covid debt, held in short term.
That’s known as fiscal and monetary policy intersecting under government, a guaranteed disaster, inflation now escaping.
One is for price stability, one wants power. Does the BoC really want price stability, won’t inflation be their debt escape valve?
To do so they’ll have to suppress financial markets, so the term goes. That means the BofC buys government’s shitty debt.
That means they don’t care about inflation anymore, they’ve monetized the debt. It was done to get out of WW2 debt.
It will be done again, not to pay off the cost of defeating an implacable enemy, but by becoming that implacable enemy.
Of the citizens, of policy over people, of political calculations over financial, of ultimately and finally a one party oligarchy.
One that PM Harper knew had to be destroyed for Canada to live. One that is showing itself in the US, now packing SCOTUS.
I mourn this sad day. Now I have to leave this party. Now I know it must die for Canada to live, to wait for a political phoenix.
THING IS … CLIMATE CHANGE ISN’T A REAL PROBLEM. IT IS ALWAYS AT THE BOTTOM OF ANY LIST OF VOTER CONCERNS.
WHAT THE HELL IS WRONG WITH THESE PEOPLE?
Politicians live insular lives, and really don’t have a clue as to what’s going on.
There’s no way I’m voting CPC and I campaigned for Harper. Forget this piece of crap.
Fully agree. How far and how quickly the CPC has sunk.
Agreed James, I started out working for reform and continued to follow through to the last election. Now, I am done. O’Toole has committed political suicide for the conservative party. I no longer even open the begging letters anymore, they go directly into the round file. It took me a long time to understand there will never be any real change. Canada, and the US, and the whole West for that matter, is sliding into oblivion, and we can’t even muster up a band to play some music, as we sink into the frigid darkness.
There’ll be lots of green scamsters offering credits for your dollars and fantastic new technology which doesn’t work, even if it did exist. A good question is how do they know if you didn’t buy gasoline or coals. They have to know you bought the silly EV before they can pay you, it is is just a subsidy for green things. Watch for a whole black … er, green … economy grow up around the frauds.
I shall buy gasoline with my savings.
Will Mr. Harper comment on this Liberal-lite policy prior to the election?
and what could be the most reasonable approach to this topic when I’m called upon to donate to bring the Liberals down prior to the election lead up?
Perhaps simply stating that this is a “deal breaker” for my Conservative vote would be best. Telling them “how I really feel” tends to get me simply hung up on.
When is the western separation referendum?
“james” … a couple of comments above states it well. This is a deal breaker.
So now all of your purchases will be tracked by the gov’t. There will come a time when you are forced to present gov’t ID in order to make any purchase…what a step forward for big brother.
Will I be allowed to buy gasoline with funds from my carbon tax ‘personal savings account’?
O’Toole is just following Harper’s plan of “replacing” the Liberals.
So why would any CPC supporter be surprised by this policy announcement?
O’Toole is Flora MacDonald in a suit.
But less manly.
Another term of Trudeau coming up.
smdh
Canada is over.
The “let’s make it better” crowd has pushed us past the point where any fix is possible. We are a cultural wasteland, an economic basket case, a tax farm, and too stupid, smug and self-important to see it is unsustainable.
Yes. This country needs to die.
I think the solution may be to push for CPCs to be elected generally, but O’Toole defeated locally – not sure Canada will survive more nonsense from the left (including O’Toole’s version). If we could get a movement started that elected members for individual ridings but not party leaders across the board, I think Canada’s democracy may start to revive from the PMO-centered mess that we’ve had since PET. OTOH – I’ve become western separatist, and think the only sane thing for a future more-devoid of leftist politics is to break the whole thing up. We’d be immediately more sane, and the ROC would secondarily be forced to face reality more quickly.
The problem with that, if it worked, is that some dumb, newly elected MP would be asked to step down so the rejected leader could run again in a by-election.
Do the “progressive Conservatives” to whom no conservative need apply,even want to win power?
Anyone attempting to salvage Confederated Canada will face an enormous group of special interests.
Their media rating will be negative to the extreme and the civil service will sabotage them in every way possible.
40% of the voting public have a vested interest in looting the rest of us.
The courts are packed with Laurentian Bagmen.
So why win?
So much more lucrative and pain free to do the Can Ahh Duh thang and “Go along to get along”,collecting press awards and flattery and collecting a lovely pension on top of all the graft you can get away with..
As I keep saying ;Covid has been a real revelation.
Not one in 10 of these professional parasites who claim to “serve the public”,even bothered to attempt to defend our individual rights.
They acted as if the Magna Carta never existed.
Proved for all to see that Trudeau One,Pierre the Idiot’s charter of rights,was an utter lie.
So smug in their roles as our “adult supervisors” they shut us down,on threat of death,jail and financial rape to “protect us” from a virus with a 99% survivability rate.
And 14 months later?
They still seek to be the Hall Monitors of society.
Sooner we ,here in the West leave,lynch a few of our own..Those who have stripped us of all our rights and dignities, to save us. Then Separate.
These fools and bandits have nothing we need or want.
Cast them out and barricade the Borders.
For once we secure our own financial house,we will be in a fine position to buy up the parts we desire of the Corpse of Confederation.
Bankruptcy is Confederations only future.
Save what we can.
The Eastern fools who gave us Sheer and The Tool have nothing in common with us,share no future vision and about zero common ethical standards.
We cannot “share” a country with such people,for they intend us no good.
It is not in their interests to see Western Canada grow .
We know this.
So when shall we go?
Max is a dead end.
Perhaps.
But No’Tool is a rear end.
He should have stayed in the Conservative party instead of going off in a huff. He’d probably be its leader today.
Leader of the CPC?
Who cares?
Exactly, but you can’t reason with Maxipads. It is a cult, and their dear leader is beyond reproach.
This is why I question Pierre Poilievre. Think of all the actual conservatives, fiscal, social, or both, who have been purged from or left on their own.
Why hasn’t this one been purged like Brad Trost, why is he still allowed to be there? What does he actually believe in, if he is willing to stick around to support all this?
When winning is more important than principle, it means you have no principles.
“Criticism is something we can avoid easily by saying nothing, doing nothing, and being nothing.” ~ Aristotle
Jawohl; Field-Marshal Windbag!
Pierre Poilievre fails the purity test.
Burn the witch!
Fouououokkkkkk me with a CO2 dildo
When did the Conservative party embrace the lie of “Global Warming”? Because I have no recollection of that happening.
Right after the Vancouver wind storm. Harper used that to jump in front of Dion and hamstring the media narrative.
In doing so he thought he could play footsie with the issue and keep canada at arms length. He failed.
I bet the members of the CPC teledonor team are looking forward to hitting the phones. .
Ignore what they say. What are these conservative MPs doing?
Are they having caucus meetings without party leadership present?
Have they stopped answering the phone calls of the party whip?
Have they started spamming private member’s bills, and ignoring O’Toole?
Have they stopped granting interview requests to the CBC?
Have any of them, taken any action at all.
And now you know what they really think.