47 Replies to “The Sound Of Settled Science”

  1. I’m more worried about the blubber I’ve accumulated and can’t get rid of because it’s more important to wear a (useless) mask and “socially distance” than be allowed to go into the gym without such ridiculous conditions, work up a sweat and burn off some calories.

    1. Same opinion on masks, but where I live great workouts possible at my club, where I can drop my mask when working the bike, exerting myself on the weights, or taking a drink; just use social distancing. On VI, nobody’s worried about covid.

      Very professional crew. I have to make a 1.25 hour appointment which is annoying short for me, but can extend to a 2nd.
      I can go there Anytime. Yes, a shameless plug but they deserve it, working hard to stay open; I really like my new club.
      I recommend a good quality sports mask, Under Armour for instance. I got lucky and plucked a premium version at Mark’s.
      If that’s not permitted in your jurisdiction, please accept my heartfelt condolences on your obescient overlord oppression.

      1. Living in Edmonton, I have to endure the idiocies of Premier Jell-O Kreampuff and Mayor Dumbass Donnie. I’m surprised that brainless wonder Deena Hinshaw hasn’t decreed that we should all be wrapped up as mummies.

        It doesn’t help that my apartment complex is managed by a complete cretin, who’s more concerned about following rules than taking risks, which someone in her position should be expected to do.

        Before this idiocy began, I could go into the gym when it opened at 5 AM and I’d have the whole place all to myself. Whenever it was opened this past year, I would have had to make a reservation and, worse, I’d have to share the place with kiddies who resent being in close proximity to someone old enough to be their granddaddy.

        Fortunately, I had a copy of the old RCAF 5BX program on hand, so I’ve been doing some of those. Three rounds of most of the exercises, followed by a stair climb with hand weights and I get a half hour’s worth. Half a loaf is better than none, I suppose.

        1. I feel your pain. I was locked out until May and had to change gyms – my (university) gym stayed closed until October.

          I found resistance bands can do in a pinch and can replace most weight training exercises with practice.

          But they get old and lonely fast. Nothing beats pumping iron.

    2. ” . . . work up a sweat and burn off some calories.”

      Flatfoot and shuffle. No gym or equipment necessary. Equipment to burn calories were invented by people who want your money, not because they’re needed to burn calories. 70 years ago Jack LaLanne invented an exercise that can be done at home with no equipment to burn calories and gave it away for free, even though he was promoting his commercial gyms.

      It’s named after him. You might have heard of it. You could give it a try.

    3. BA, maybe Covid sweat is infectious? I dunno, My thinking is the idiots that issue these mandates are doubling down just so they can cover their behinds and hide their stupidity. Only now, they keep upping the anti, and just want to save face….at our expense. Lets face it, if Covid was a real threat, they would be hiding under their desks, not vacationing in sunny places, plus the power trip, as well as the vacation trip, is gratifying I’m sure.

    4. For the blubber, the gym is not so important for a cure, as one gets hungry. Learn to cook, not code!

      I went on the Dukan diet for over a year and lost 50 lbs. The good points about the diet were:
      1) very restricted foods at first, all pure protein, low fat, 3 tsp.fat, no carbs (approved fillet, salmon, crab, tuna, lean pork etc,; then
      2) add low-carbo vegetables until you lose weight at the rate of 2 lbs per week.
      3) also, they have a reporting and coaching system to make you weigh every morning and report transgressions. I cheated a bit on reporting, adding a glass or two of wine and miracle whip and low glycemic fruit, like berries.
      4) Once your ideal weight is reached, you go onto “maintenance”, but by then, one has learned to eat great, healthy meals and to view carbs and other high fat or glycemic foods/deserts as “treats” or “celebration meals”, eating a max of 3 carb servings/day, mostly early in the day. Bread or 1/2 c rice/pasta. Eating whatever is allowed, but only one day.

      I maintained my weight for 9 years, but covid has made me sloppy by eating out or having prepared foods a bit too often, thus have gained 10 lbs. this year, but I know how to get rid of it. A bit more exercise and home cooking.

      My spouse had familial hyperlipidemia, and we tried to follow the rules by having little fat in our family diet, but he was busy, eating out in a high profile job and died at age 47.

      Meds did not work.

      The cholesterol research, propaganda and pretend cures are not done yet, for sure!

    5. Eat oatmeal and cut back on the bread and cheese. Ditch the booze, a source of sugar = blubber. Takes a while, but I shed 30 kilos over 24 odd months, over two years ago. Back to my 1979 weight. Hardly any belly fat left. Have to be picky where I jab my daily thinner. BP 120/70 or lower, blood sugar 5.5 or so, used to be 14-16 and 140/90, but that was cancer drugs too. Haven’t changed much else, still eat desserts. Lots of fruit. Eat some nuts and seeds. Dark chocolate is good for you, so have that bar. My best exercise regimen is sleeping. Get lots. I stump around indoors these days. Eat 4 meals a day and chug 2.0 liters minimum of H2O daily. Vitamin D and C 2000 MG each daily. Calcium 500 mg. The cancer I have eats bone.
      Your Doc will never speak about vitamin supplements, but excess C is excreted and most people are short on Vitamin D anyway, even in summer up here. That’s what does you in on COVID. Eat your potassium quota, too.
      And 5BX? I used to do those 50 years ago. Better to just walk and if you want resistance, do stairs or swim, or pump a can of Campbell’s tomato soup, or a bag of dried peas.

  2. Because the real culprit, is excess carbohydrates, not fat.

    Carbs drive the roller coaster of insulin levels. Fat has no effect on insulin, it is neutral. I had always though of Palm and Coconut oils as death substances, but, it turns out, coconut oil is mad of largely ,MCT, Medium Chain Triglycerides. These are not harmful, 8n fact, beneficial to our digestive system, and, can be a weight loss benefit. They become ketones n your bloodstream, and tells your body to burn ketones/fat, not glucides(sugar), especially, when you avoid carbs. The pounds start dropping.

    Fat never was the enemy. This despite government nutritionists telling all of us to avoid fat at all costs, and eat grains. Meanwhile, the North American population has gotten fatter, decade after decade, following the government food pyramid.

    Fat is our friend, enjoy olive oil, butter, coconut oil and bacon drippings.

    Avoid all sugar, grains and pasta, and, vegetable oils, including canola. Full of Omega6

    1. You seem to know what you’re talking about. But damn it, ya kinda bummed me out with the pasta thing.

    3. I agree totally. The Keto diet is like all the other weight loss diets, they lower your calorie intake if you follow them.
      Surprise, surprise as Gomer would say. Saturated fat is a small part of anyone’s diet, given availability of lean meats.
      Carbs are the killer. Want to lose fat, lop off 100 grams a day of carbohydrates in the form of junk food.
      SEAT. Stop eating all the time. You can go to the gym for decades, but if you don’t control calories, you won’t lose fat.
      Add recent research is pointing to the possibility that bulking up on your diet, accepting fat gain, lessens muscle growth.
      Fat and protein are essential macros for your diet. Carbs help out with glycogen levels but are used primarily for energy.
      Jim Stoppani tells us to use “macros” to take carbohydrates out of your diet and replace essential calories with protein.
      Example. Active 200lb man needs 3000kcal/day to maintain weight. Protein should be 200g or 800kcal; fat 100g so 900kcal.
      1700kcal, so 1300 to go. Using me as an example that’s a small salad, baked potato a half box of bulk Superstore fudge bars.
      And I wonder why I didn’t lose fat. No fudgie bars? Well, sometimes. No but pasta, rye bread, lots of nice foods to choose.
      Maybe like my wife and two fudge bars? Not me. Reduce your 1300 to 800 and 500kcal short, so you won’t lose muscle.
      That’s good for a pound a fat loss per week. Accelerating that will only set you back in muscle growth, fatigue and injury.
      Supplement, use HIIT not cardio, Intermittent Fast, mass train with higher reps lower weight for old guy muscles’ sake. Get fit.
      Easier said than done in our ultra prosperous fat and happy lifestyles? Don’t I know it.

        1. I do but it takes effort and planning. 200g protein, 100g fat, 100-200g carbs to burn fat along with HIIT and weights.
          200g protein is at least six steaks or some other combinations, so protein supplements are the only solution for me.
          If you want to gain muscle, especially as you age, 1 to 1.5g per pound of bodyweight are essential.
          If you don’t need to burn fat then up to 300g carbs OK, but not empty calories like junk food (I’m the worst offender).

    4. Didn’t omit the grains, canola and pasta completely, just reduced the intake. Bake my own bread now (rye), most times. I might have two or more slices daily.

  3. Fat wasn’t the enemy but Big Food needed to persuade us that extending the shelflife of flour and sugar based products with cheap vegetable oils was a good idea and coincidentally good for their bottomline. Check who was funding medical research and conferences at the time!

    1. You know who headed the Senate committee that produced the “food pyramid”? Wheat state Senator George McGovern.

      In those days Americans were pretty fit and healthy compared to today. There are lots of reasons that this has changed, but the food pyramid is not least among them.

    2. Fat is calorically dense 9kcal per gram as opposed to 4kcal per gram for protein or carbs, but rich in nutrients and essential.

  4. Other coinkydink is that high levels of insulin, high blood sugar as in metabolic syndrome from high carb diet, and diets high in veg oil are all inflammatory states and that cholesterol is deposited under the epithelium of blood vessels by macrophages(immune cells) putting out fires.

  5. It’s amazing how much the debacle in nutrition mirrors what the strategy used with climate change.

    A few politicized scientists selling the “fat is bad” theory got the ear of some powerful politicians who established that as the official government policy in the 60’s. They did this without actually having the body of evidence to justify their theory.

    The idea gains momentum mainly based on its acceptance as being true (science being settled) even though there are no studies proving it. The idea of “fat is bad” being wrong is so outside of the mainstream that few scientists continue to try to find the truth and the ones who perform studies showing the idea is flawed are discredited as obviously lunatics or in the pay of influencers like the meat lobby. Earlier science showing the idea is likely wrong is just completely ignored.

    The “deniers” are discredited as bought and paid for even though the big money is on the “fat is bad” side with the hundreds of billions made by the few big food conglomerates, pharma selling things like statins, etc. The media, of course, mostly sells the government position.

    You can even draw the parallel between nutrition and climate change when it comes to government control being at the heart of it. In climate they want to use the crisis to restrict people’s behaviors in ways they could never do normally. With nutrition, this fat is bad, eat lots of grains” idea coincidentally took hold at the same time the Great Society programs turned millions of people into government dependents.

    The government was going to have to pay to feed their new dependents. Carb dominant food costs a fraction to produce, compared to diet with higher levels of fat and protein people should be eating.

    1. My only question now is … How much cholesterol is found in the crickets and bugs the UN says we should all be eating? Which “model” is being used to push THAT unappetizing dietary imperative?

    2. Very good points, Phil. I had not looked at nutrition that way, but there are a lot of similarities between climate science and nutrition science. Thanks for that.

  6. The whole cholesterol and unsaturated fats scam contributes to my mistrust of the medical experts. To see how the scam has been perpetrated, read The Big Fat Surprise by Nina Teicholz.

    Having gone keto for two years, my problem with inflammation has almost completely disappeared. High saturated fats, no sugar, almost no carbs and huge reduction in seed oils (sorry canola farmers…) has also helped us drop our excess weight, me 30 lbs, my hubby 85 lbs. Steak and bacon!

    If you’re worried about other nutritional deficiencies and health issues, consult the web sites of Dr Ken Berry and of Dr. Rob Cywes, “The Carb Addiction Doc”.

    Astounding how we’ve been manipulated. The diet controls guiding our hospitals, nursing homes and schools are close to criminal. Diabetics in hospitals are brought meals full of sugars and carbs. The gov’t wants us all to be vegans…

    2. I was involved with two clinics last year, both had dietitians.
      What they proposed was 180 degrees apart.
      One push low fat, lots of grains (carbs).
      The other cut the carbs, consume fat, meat and was keto like.
      Went with the second.

      As for the government wanting us to be vegan, they plan to outlaw meat due to climate change, that’s why we have this pea based crap. They plan to outlaw a lot of things for climate change like your vehicle and whether even if you should be able to buy one.

      BS needs to be stopped.

  8. People eat way too much. If you weigh your food and count calories you will be shocked at how little food 2000 calories is. If you’re fat and you need to lose weight you should be on even less than that. Since the invention of agriculture the average European has gotten most of their calories from bread, yet obesity only became a problem when food became plentiful and cheap and our lifestyles stopped involving dawn till dusk back breaking manual labour.

    1. R. 100% correct. If someone is fat they need to eat less and exercise more. I have maintained the same weight for 50 years with occasional vacation increases that are quickly shed. Bacon, eggs, roast beef, pork, none have pushed my cholesterol up. I do eat a balanced diet with few excess. French fries are a particular weakness.

      1. You Canadians are so damn healthy because of all the Poutine you eat (speaking of French fries) … 🙂

        1. LMAO….Kenji
          “PoutsZine” as they pronounce it in Eastern Ontario..(lots of french speakers there), is literally a Bowl of Cholesterol…with some fresh curds on top.

          I’ve had that a cpl times when I lived in Cornwall, Ont. (my self induced isolation from Normalicy – Western Canada). Not all that keen on it…fries get soggy with the gravy..I kinda prefer crispy fries m’self.

  9. Of interest:
    According to Kuhn, once a scientist makes up his or her mind it is very rare for new evidence to change it. Science is not a process of data driving opinions: rather it is a process of new experts, with better ideas, displacing existing experts with discredited ideas. In the words of the German physicist Max Planck: ‘A new scientific truth does not triumph by convincing its opponents and making them see the light, but rather because its opponents eventually die and a new generation grows up that is familiar with it . . . An important scientific innovation rarely makes its way by gradually winning over and converting its opponents: it rarely happens that Saul becomes Paul. What does happen is that its opponents gradually die out, and that the growing generation is familiarised with the ideas from the beginning: another instance of the fact that the future lies with the youth.’ Or the shorter version: ‘Science progresses one funeral at a time.’

    From: https://www.conservativewoman.co.uk/sage-and-the-failure-of-science/
    Rinse repeat on AGW, covid….

    Also “One of Kuhn’s most important findings was recognising how scientists often invert the relationship between theory and data. They often become overly protective of their own ideas, to the point where they become unable to look objectively at new experimental data which contradicts them. As a result, once a theory is adopted, scientists tend to look for the supporting evidence and ignore the contradictory evidence. The scientists themselves are usually unaware of this bias. In other words, scientists are human and, like the rest of us, suffer from confirmation bias.

    Kuhn found that status, ego and reputation were important impediments to scientific discovery, especially when the scientists in question were leaders of their field. Scientific leaders often have so much personal standing invested in their beliefs they find it impossible to acknowledge when their theories have been disproved. This, Kuhn explained, is why it is often interested outsiders or younger scientists, with little established commitment to the prevailing wisdom, who can often look at scientific problems more objectively.”

    1. Ljh – Thanks for your insight and links. I will definitely be reading more of Thomas Kuhn. Your post has given me a most interesting morning. I am half way through my second pot of coffee.

  10. Gee, I wonder why we are all so fat when our scientific bureaucrats have been telling us in our “food guides” that the same diet farmers use to fatten up cows and pigs is the one that will be healthy for humans.

    When you think of it, they want to take meat out of our diets and carb us to death directly – in the name of climate change WE are the new CATTLE. That same thinking that pervades all the other ways the elites/UN think of Jane and Joe Frontporch.

    Next step down the food chain for us – you aren’t CATTLE, you are HUMAN WEEDS….

    1. How right you are RN, the climate change agenda is pushed by the elites because they don’t want us using up planetary resources they want to preserve for themselves and their future offspring, so getting us to do a slow suicide is just one of the ways they have developed, along with wars, possibly infertility vaccines maybe, and other ways to reduce worldwide populations to what they consider acceptable levels = one billion max, is what I have heard, just enough of a peasants class to service their needs and requirements. From their perspective, we need to get with the program, they count, and we don’t….real simple math. Oh, and yeah, we are not weeds, but vermin in need of acceptable eradication. They would revisit Hitler’s death camp ideas if they could get away with it!

  11. This is not a new discovery. I could pull out articles from the 70s that say this. Unfortunately, biochemists have a general rule taught in university that you never read literature from more than 3-5 years ago because its out of date. So this kind of “rediscovery by highly intelligent but ignorant biochemists happens all the time.

  12. MJB beat me to it, recommending Nina Teicholz’s The Big Fat Surprise.

    I also recommend Gary Taubes’ Why We Get Fat and What To Do About It.

  13. You have to wonder, what rationale was driving the Ruling Elite to push the whole “grains” thing for decades?

    If you think back to the time it arose, the Ruling Elite were wringing their hands over “overpopulation.” They probably thought that there would never be enough meat/fat sources to feed a growing world population so “grains” was the answer. Just look at the feature film Soylent Green from 1973 at the height of the population hysteria.

    Now, it’s obviously driven by “cow farts” and Gorebull Worming.

    Nothing will change until the day thousands of the Ruling Elite are literally Ceaușescu-ed.

  14. The very best advice from government experts..
    When every long term observer has noted the obvious,everything government controls turns to shit.
    Government advice is a bit like that of film critics.
    Usually ignored if you wish to enjoy yourself.

    1. Just wait for the next “expert” if you don’t get the opinion you want is how dystopic parasitism works.
      If you can find (pay) enough of them, they call all be wrong while “following science.”

  15. I changed my dietary habits due to a fatty liver diagnosis, I went from 210lbs. to 165lbs. In approximately 1year. I cut out junk food and introduced more chicken and less beef, more fresh vegetables and fruit. My latest doctor appointment was good, she said that my numbers were back to normal, I gave myself a day off and had pizza and ice cream, the following morning according to my scale I had gained 3lbs.

    1. As in the aphorism, lipids repel water. Glycogen, on the other hand, retains it. A pint’s a pound, the world around.

  16. “The increased blood cholesterol level is probably a sign that the regulatory mechanisms in the body are working the way they should,” says Zinöcker.”

    Well effing Duh!

    “We’ve always believed that everything was part of the same picture.”

    If “We” were an effing idiot. It’s all feedback cycles, inside of feedback cycles, inside of feedback cycles. Poke one thing and everything else moves.

    1. “Poke one thing and everything else moves.”

      Yes, but usually in an amoeboid manner it seems.

      Poke a finger in, get a finger out-poked – but somewhere likely unpredicted

      1. Putting it simply, predicting the behavior of a complex system with multiple layers of chaotic feedback (some of which are still unknown) is a b!tch.
        And needless to say, any ‘model’ incapable of competent prediction (or even post-diction) is a crock, no matter how the data is trimmed, edited, or diddled.
        Other than that (and a conclusion predetermined by government fiat) AGW science is just peachy…

  18. The biggest issue I have is with the most-widely used family of cholesterol drugs: the statins- Lipitor, Crestor,etc.
    They all work by suppressing the generation of enzyme CO-Q10 in the body, which does a great job of reducing cholesterol – as long as the body is capable of replenishing its supply of CO-Q10, which it do either by generating it or (somewhat inefficiently) from nutrition.
    Unfortunately, some folks can’t get enough in their diet and when their CO-Q10 levels are hammered flat via the statin other periperal organs such as the brain (cognitive function) and muscle tissue mass (including the heart) likewise get hammered. No problem with the lucky normal >98%, but for the unlucky 2% things can really suck, especially if both the heart AND brain are compromised…

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