67 Replies to “The American System is Broken”

  1. I understand the angst completely. I understand how an African American who has no faith in the legal system and no opportunities in the inner city would riot, loot and steal. The system has failed him. Likewise, I understand the feeling of the average Trump supporter who has seen politicians outsource his jobs to China, give preference to illegal immigrants, use intelligence agencies including the FBI, CIA, etc. to spy on and oppress the people. The system is corrupt and the people know it and reject it.

    Now, freedom loving patriots are starting to use the tactics that the left have employed so effectively. Riots, occupations, looting, destruction, this was all tolerated, encouraged, lauded as “mostly peaceful” when it was instigated by the left. How will this day be described by the media and deep state operatives? When the rioters were destroying Portland, Minneapolis, St. Louis, Chicago, etc. how many were shot by police? Today, we had an unarmed patriot gunned down by deep state latchkeys in the halls of the Capitol with no warning. Today’s shot registers as the “second shot heard round the world”. They’re fighting for their freedom and today’s redcoats are dressed as leftists and “progressives”.

    1. None of that matters. The left have idle time and their collectivism to plan, protest and riot. The right is too individualistic to engage in such nonsense. Unfortunately, it means the end of freedom is nigh.

    3. Buzz,”Redcoats dressed as leftists and progressives”. How very astute of you, well said.

  2. Attorney Robert Barnes has a message to those State Officials who will not allow an Audit.
    see “scottsdale” youtube channel

    If the Democrats are so cocksure that there was no fraud in the election then they shouldn’t be afraid of an election AUDIT.

    The fact that ZERO AUDITS have taken place, shows their own distrust of their own system.

    The best electoral fraud disinfectant is a FORENSIC AUDIT…

    For FOUR unbroken years the “Dem-Tantrums” led a non-stop campaign that disavowed the legitimacy of President Trump; and encouraged Anitifa/BLM thuggery, including molotov cocktails.

    But oh no, when the Republicans are calling you out on the Congressional steps and in the halls; well we can’t have that…suddenly protests are “unlawful”.

    Baleful HYPOCRISY of the highest order. In all honesty, they do deserve each other!

    It’s supposed to be Epiphany, the last day of the Christmas season, with the arrival of the 3 wise men; and there is no WISDOM in sight.

    Prosit!!

    Hans Rupprecht, Commander in Chief
    1st Saint Nicolaas Army
    Army Group “True North

    1. Which republicans are calling them out? I only see Trump, who was never a republican calling them out.
      Everyone else has bent the knee.

      Goes double for conservatives here. As a lifetime conservative voter, I will never vote federally again. The system is broken beyond repair. Burn it down and start again.

    2. “The fact that ZERO AUDITS have taken place”

      WTF? This is completely false. Numerous audits have been done and they all showed, unequivocally, that there were no problems with machine counts or signature matches.

      More importantly, the fact that you refuse to acknowledge the numerous audits that have already been done suggests that you are not making the demand in good faith and it is unlikely that you would accept the result of an audit that did not come to conclusions that your like. What this means is more audits are pointless. The people that can be convinced that the election was free and fair have been convinced. The rest are lost causes.

      1. Attorney Robert Barnes has a message to those State Officials who will not allow an Audit.
        see “scottsdale” youtube channel see Jan 3 2021 posting.

        And nearly all the lawsuits, shot down on technicalities not substance.

        Read slowly…FORENSIC AUDIT… not BS wave your hands audit

        Prosit!!

        Hans Rupprecht, Commander in Chief
        1st Saint Nicolaas Army
        Army Group “True North

      2. Georgia did a hand count of 5 million paper ballots.
        The count matched the machine count.
        The did a second machine count. It matched the first two.

        That is a real, substantial audit that proves, beyond all reasonable doubt, that the machines counted votes correctly.

        They also did a signature audit of 15,000 mail in ballots and found ZERO examples of fraudulent ballots.
        15,000 ballots is a real substantial audit that proves that the mail in ballot validation process worked as required.

        IOW, your demand for audits is based on a false premise. I suspect you would never accept the result of an audit that did not conclude there there were bug problems so there is really no point in doing further audits.

        1. Well Barnes is suggesting that the Democrat expert who examined a significant sample of the ballots found an 11% error rate; which far exceeds the margin of “victory”…

          Machine count is a problem, when the machine is in question.

          Start paying attention…

          Prosit!!

          Hans Rupprecht, Commander in Chief
          1st Saint Nicolaas Army
          Army Group “True North

        2. No signatures were checked on mail in ballots- who knows who submitted them. And the Dominion voting machines had missing security logs. Now, tell us your made-up stories, again, TimG.

          1. “No signatures were checked on mail in ballot”

            Complete BS.

            Secretary of State Brad Raffensperger had requested GBI’s assistance with the audit to look into accusations elections workers did not accurately match signatures before the June Primary Election.

            “The results of that audit confirmed the accuracy of the initial determination of the Cobb County Election Department in all but two cases,” said GBI Director Vic Reynolds. That’s two cases out of the more than 15,000 random envelopes they audited on December 21 and 22. “Those two ballots were counted, and they should not have been,” he said. “The Cobb Elections Department should have notified those individuals.”

            In those two cases, a voter’s spouse had signed the envelope, and another voter had signed theirs in the wrong place. Investigators also say there were no fraudulent absentee ballots. “The Cobb Board of Elections had a 99.99% accuracy rate in the absentee ballot oath envelopes that we audited,” Reynolds said.

            https://atlanta.cbslocal.com/2020/12/31/georgia-election-investigations-gbi-releases-cobb-county-signature-audit-results-4/

        3. Brief example for your idiocy, Tim G. … next time the IRS calls for an AUDIT of your tax return … just tell them not to bother … that you’ll do it yourself. See how that flies. This is exactly what your “election audits” have entailed. State and local registrars of voters do NOT want to be revealed as incompetent… or worse. Of course their “internal” audits found nothing amiss. And recounting the exact same fraudulent shotgun mailed OUT ballots harvested and illegitimately returned … is a JOKE.

          You are self delusional … or mentally incapacitated if you don’t understand that

          1. The GBI (Georgia Bureau of Investigation) conducted the audit. Why isn’t that independent?

            What is pathetic is you rant and rave about a system that you do not understand and have no interest in understanding.

            There is ZERO risk associated with mailing out a million copies of ballots because no ballot can be used unless it is registered and registration requires photo ID or a signature match against the DMV license.

            Once a ballot is registered it can be sent in but that requires a second signature match on the envelope – a signature match against DMV records or the original application form.

            The delusional fools are the people who cling to pathetic delusion that there was large scale fraud. There was not. Repeating the lie over and over does not make it true.

          2. @TimG — Kenji will deem an audit “independent” only if it involves Rudy Giuliani himself and no one else personally inspecting and manually recounting each of the 5 million ballots cast in Georgia. Even then, assuming Giuliani hasn’t perished from the effort, Kenji will accept the results only if they flip the state from Biden to Trump; if not, then Giuliani will be branded a Deep State traitor and a pedophile, and Kenji will instead call for his summary execution.

          3. They got what the fraud was intended to get now let’s see how long anyone can live with it.

        5. TimG , I will put your stupidity down to ignorance. A hand recount was done of ballot images, not the same thing, by a mile. The signature audit also found 2 mistakes, which is statistically impossibly good.
          Let the actual paper be checked for authenticity, let the machines be checked for fidelity, if you have nothing to hide, should be no problem, right?

          1. “The signature audit also found 2 mistakes, which is statistically impossibly good.”

            WTF? What a nonsense argument. If, in the real world, every one of those ballots was cast by a eligible elector that already provided photo ID or a signature match on the application then there is no reason to expect a large number of errors.

            Your problem is you are so desperate to believe the bogus fraud narrative that you refuse to accept any data that shows that there was no fraud. The real world does not care about your desire to believe in non-existent fraud.

        7. Timmy, I want to see you burn like a fuc*ing gasoline drenched roll of toilet paper torched for your lies. Your are the sort of PoS who deserves to hang from the neck until dead from the nearest lamppost.

      3. Dude, just yesterday they were preventing Republican observers from observing the election in contravention of a judge’s order.

      4. 68% of scanned ballots requiring adjudication is your idea of PASSING an audit? Ooch, lad (hic! that’s the scotch in me talking).

        1. BS concocted by someone who is either deliberately lying or does not know how to use the machines.

          The beauty of a hand count is the machines are completely eliminated from the equation. The only inputs are the paper ballots and the human counters. When the Antrium county paper ballots were audited they matched the machine count. Conclusion: machines count correctly and people claiming otherwise are peddling BS.

          https://www.clickondetroit.com/decision-2020/2020/12/18/michigans-audit-of-antrim-county-votes-reaffirms-2020-presidential-election-results/

          The Michigan Bureau of Elections, Antrim County Clerk’s Office and a bipartisan team of clerks began hand counting the county’s ballots at 9 a.m. on Thursday. Before 6 p.m. the same day, Benson announced the results of the audit — and the count remained largely unchanged.

          As a result of the vote audit, Biden lost 1 vote and Trump gained 11 additional votes in Antrim County. The previously-certified votes favored Trump with 9,748 votes over Biden’s 5,960 — shifting to 9,759 votes for Trump and 5,959 for Biden Thursday after the county’s recount.

          “Today’s full audit in Antrim County confirmed the truth and affirmed the facts: Dominion’s voting machines accurately tabulated the votes cast for president in Antrim County,” Benson said on Dec. 17. “It is time for the disinformation campaigns to stop, and for elected and other leaders on both sides of the aisle to unequivocally affirm that the election was secure and accurate.”

        1. You watch too much CSI.
          “forensics” is not some magic that can conjure the “truth”.
          it a collection of techniques that often rely on dubious statistical analyses that can be used to determine what happened from limited evidence. It is extremely subjective and rarely proves anything. The FBI has a history of relying too much on “forensic” techniques that are not reliable indicators of fact.

          OTOH they have done a complete AUDIT (their word) of the machine counts by hand counting the paper ballots that were fed into the machines. These audits are perfect popparian test of a hypothesis that demonstrated that the machine counts were accurate. No “forensic” audit can invalidate the results of a 5 million ballot hand count.

  3. Doug Tennapel? LOL. Moving on from scamming comicsgate to scamming conservatives.

    Robert likes all the grifters and con men on the right. Candace Owens, Tennapel…..

    Give your head a shake man. Stop giving a platform to these parasites.

  5. The second amendment exists to protect the first. Antifa might has started and escalated the violence, but they think in small, limited terms and probably think that this will disgrace Trump supporters and make them run and hide. 1/3 of the US population supported the original war of independence. 1/3 of US voters think that this was a stolen election.

    The Democrats and never Trumpers appear to have forgotten that part of the original deal is that as long as things can be settled by ballots and law, they would be. Now that ballots are meaningless, bullets will decide. I pray to God that it won’t come to a full revolution/restoration, but there are so many from the left that project their thoughts and limits onto their opponents who don’t realize that stealing this election means a broken covenant. That means the rules don’t apply anymore to those who are normally the followers of the rules. These are the people who provide the majority of the military, the majority of the (non-unionized) first responders, and the volunteer backbone that makes society work.

    You wanted to tear it all down? You should fear what’s coming.

    2. Fear? Faster, please.

      Globalism is in nobody’s interest. It is a recipe for the destruction of civilization as we know it.

      The global movement led by Donald Trump is the first REAL workers’ and peasants’ revolution the world has ever seen. Its first act upon its victory will—must be—the bringing of the globalists to justice, after the facts of the cases against them are laid before a candid world.

      If the thought of watching the livestream of the sentences being carried out does not gladden your heart, you’re too good for this world.

      Restoration? I submit to you the American system has yet to be tried. Our masters were never going to allow people with anything worth stealing to rule themselves.

      1. Work on your comprehension. Those who thought “let’s tear it all down, man, then we can be in charge!” have wakened and pissed off Leviathan. They are the ones who will know fear when their “little protest” engulfs them and sets their goals back by a century or more.

    3. 1,000,000 times agree.

      Exc Post C..!!
      Not even the Military nor Nat Guard can or would even try to stop 74,000,000 marching on Washington……….aRMED…and march they sure as hell will..!!

      (it’s not CANADA ffs)

  6. This country is now irredeemable. The institutions are corrupt, the deep state is unaccountable and the Left runs rampant over our rights and freedoms with full throated support of the media and technology. The right needs to break away, peacefully, and reinstitute our founding documents. For Dems to steal two elections without even trying to hide it is an act of war.

    1. Too late they have won. Today will be used to destroy the “right” the media, tech companies etc. They are hard at tonight. I have thought it was just twilight and we had some more time. We don’t. They will use this as kristnallnacht.

      1. No. The Trump supporters followed the requests and tried to stage a peaceful protest. It resulted in a veteran being killed by police. https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2021/01/breaking-unarmed-woman-shot-killed-capitol-police-identified-14-year-usaf-veteran-video/

        Had the response been as quiet and understated as a BLM protest, things would calm down. Instead, the Trump supporters won’t leave their weapons at home for the next one. Because they now know that restraint won’t be shown towards them. Even those who have served, and should have the ones the boys in blue should have been looking to for advice and support (instead of shooting).

  7. Let’s not forget that corruption does not grow from malfeasance but from ignorance and bad faith acts by those that don’t see value in the laws.
    But these laws are not natural law, they are not written by the hand of God, God has given the gift of free choice whether to be civil or chaotic.
    Those laws are not created by divine intervention but by men, they are legal fiction.
    They are obeyed by choice and not by force of God.

    Having said that.

    When do I start wearing the Star of David on my sleeve?

    1. It’s false hope. No court would hear the overwhelming evidence (direct and circumstantial) that already exists. There is more proof that Biden’s Democrats stole the election than there was that Al Capone was a gangster who did anything wrong.

    1. That pretty well sums it up. Our nation has become so fucking wealthy, and the tax receipts off the bloody charts (thank you President Trump) … that the inheritors of that largesse are squandering it all. And the freedoms were just too free … so those have to be consumed as well.

      Yep … the Third generation are obliterating all the hard work that went before them. And I’m speaking to MY Boomer generation.

  10. Back in session. Schumer is now comparing today to Pearl Harbour and blaming Trump.

  11. Broken? Was it ever functional? Consider that the elites of every age have never tolerated the independence of any people who had anything worth stealing. Look up the Whiskey Rebellion, if you please.

    This much can be said—today the American people learned who their real friends are and who will respect, much less enforce, their right to choose their own leaders. There’s precious few of them on Capitol Hill.

  12. He got Pence COMPLETELY wrong. Pence and Pelosi together with the SecDef brought in the National Guard, froze Trump out, and will now probably remove him from office. Pence is the worst kind of traitor

    1. Remove Trump from power now and watch the powder keg go
      Kaboom! Not a wise move.

      I still don’t think most police, national guard or other law enforcement will turn on the masses…their top bosses might want them to but…
      Interesting times to come.
      NEVER SURRENDER AMERICAN PATRIOTS…The time has come once again to save your freedom, your republic’s sovereignty.

      1. My thought as well. And now that police have killed an unarmed veteran, there’s no way that the next round of protestors will be unarmed.

        I also suspect that any Antifa types that try to run to the front of the parade now will be shot by the Trump supporters.

    1. Yes the Canadian situation is worse, but Canadians like being told what to do and how to do it, deciding for yourself requires responsibility, kids don’t like that.

  14. Let’s analyze this.

    They had an election.
    There is no question whatsoever it was corrupted by the state politicians.
    There were some 500 lawsuits to bring light to it. It does sound like way overboard.
    Nonetheless the courts did not want to deal with none of them. They don’t want to change anything in the elections, it’s not done and it would look bad.
    The courts caused this. If 5 lawsuits were valid, they did not want to deal with it.
    Take that into account.
    The American constitution gives people right, “In the United States the right to petition is guaranteed by the First Amendment to the United States Constitution, which specifically prohibits Congress from abridging “the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances”.

    Would a lawsuit be akin to petition for a redress of grievances?
    If so, the governments did not want to deal with it.

    The cup runeth over for some.

    There were media commentators, members of house of representatives that actually, in fact supported what happened today when it was done by the antifa, the black life matters and other assorted variety of socialists/fascists and their fellow travelers. Those tore down statues, burned business, occupied police stations, occupied parts of cities and so on and so on. You may have noticed that no statues were pulled down today.
    Earlier this week the socialists/fascists came to a house of senator of the US, harassed him and his family for simple reason that he has different view on running the government than they. That seem to have been ok, the media commentators had few comments and none.

    This is not to justify anything, just presenting facts of how it got to this point.

    1. I’m not sure I believe that. It could be part of the whole ANTIFA/Deep State set up.

  16. If the Dems are wise, they will realize what happened today is simply a warning shot that if they think they are going to be able to cruise happily along in invoking their “revolution”, they are in for a hell of a surprise. The “governed” are sick and tired of their overbearing “governors”.

  17. Anybody here find it strange that this little incursion was just long enough to permit a recess and that they are at it again? I mean motivated protesters make it into the building and just leave? And break nothing? Then there is this Viking dude that was featured with the US flag. Also spotted at an Antifa protest. I mean the kit and body tattoos are a dead giveaway. Young people dressed in black with helmets and shields…. Remind you of anything? Then they wheel out the 25th Amendment and another fresh set of impeachment articles… didn’t take them long to write them. I guess it’s all legit.
    Nothing to see here.

  20. Folks, SDA is a great site with a lot of thoughtful opinions expressed all the time. With one or two exceptions.
    Please consider that TimG’s predictable actions, practically to the letter, mirror those of your typical avatar account. Let’s face it, you run into this on every meaningful discussion group or site. These avatar accounts are typically set up by incels and satanists who get paid to disrupt the proceedings and take oxygen out of the room.
    Simply ignore him and allow us adults to talk among ourselves.
    Engaging with him is not only a waste of time, it’s reached the stage where I am quite sure that most people on this site think it’s kind of low class to do so. You know. Don’t touch the poop.

  21. The real problem isn’t electoral fraud. The real problem is that fully HALF of the electorate believes there was fraud. It is a crisis of confidence: chronic cynicism. The inevitable result of terminally corrupt institutions.

  22. Speaking of the revolution, anybody notice that neither Trump nor a single member of his legal team, West Wing staff, or family actually joined the marchers on the ground as they headed down to the Capitol Building yesterday?

    I guess when Trump told the crowd at the initial rally earlier in the day that, “We’re going to walk down to the Capitol and we’re going to cheer on our brave senators and Congressmen and women”, he was using the word “we” in the military sense, as in “you”.

    Cowards, one and all.

  23. Well, TimG, is a confession enough for you to establish that the voting machines were manipulated?
    https://youtu.be/6aVDmIahSeM
    Link posted somewhere yesterday, along with info from Simon Parkes ( also posted yesterday) who I find very reliable. In particular, he says this is being covered in the news in Europe. I think it may take a week or so, but I think this story will gain traction. It is very revealing. The involvement of other countries is an important development.

  24. Just as the Republicans replaced the Whigs. A new party needs to replace the Republicans for starters.
    A Conservative party with some serious backbone.

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