34 Replies to “Wuhan Flu: Maximizing Returns”

  1. In the US they’ve decided to focus on vaccinating “essential workers” because they’re mostly black. The most essential workers are members of Congress of course. Biden will of course reinforce the failure with equally stupid policies.

    I’m honestly shocked Trudeau didn’t come up with that for us but I think even he recognizes he screwed up enough already. He’s deeply upset he won’t be able to ship vaccine to the third world until late next year.

    1. I have a hard time with people who make the claim that delay is useless when there is a vaccine now and far better treatments than we had in the spring. That’s just childish temper tantrum crap that says that they didn’t care how many people died, but just wanted it over with. Except that people are already getting re-infected so it wouldn’t be over with. Deaths in Sweden are approaching their peak in the spring. What are you suggesting that we do differently than Sweden? On world-o-meter, the tail off is just due to reporting delays.

      1. If you look at the graphs over time you can see the rise and fall of the recent deaths in Sweden. You claim of “the tail off is just due to reporting delays.” is factually incorrect. Canada is currently, on worldometer, following the exact same shape of the curve. We can expect to see a reduction in deaths over the next while same as all the other northern countries. If the tail off was due to reporting the graphs would always show a tail-off – they don’t – so you are wrong.

        You claim that people are having a childish temper tantrum and don’t care how many people die is also a slander. You are attributing motivation to people you have never met, for whom you cannot possibly know the motivation.

        Your claim that people are getting re-infected is unlikely when we know that the PCR test has a large proportion of false positives. To be frank, we don’t really know how many people have gotten the disease since the false positives are so high. At least when we were testing people with symptoms there was a chance it was corona virus. The PCR test was intended to inform you about which disease you were sick with, once you were observably sick. It isn’t meant to detect the disease in the first place.

        Basically, every claim you have made here is false.

        1. I have been watching Sweden’s page on World-o-meter for some time, it always looks like it is tailing off, but the recent peak seems to always get higher.

          It’s always easier to believe comforting lies, and you have swallowed a large number of them. It’s no surprise, there are master propagandists on both sides of this argument. I have long since given up on making people see reason, it’s like trying to give a cat a bath. But go ahead and repeat your misinformation, certainly after selling out on global warming, the scientific community has earned your distrust.

  2. I’m sure everyone saw the vid of the doc in ElPaso getting his fake vacc.. Plunger already down,so no load inserted into his arm. Also the Nurse saying that they are NOT getting vacc.,while the public is told they are. Over 3500 strong reactions to the vacc.This is getting interesting.

  3. I am sure that pushing the vaccine on minorities first will remind no black people of the Tuskegee experiment. These people are tone deaf. Before the election Kamala Harris was telling everybody that the vaccine was dangerous, now they want to give it to black people first.

    It’s pretty clear that public health is the last thing on their minds.

  4. Or, just let it run it’s course and look after the sick and not destroy the lives of the healthy.

  5. Should we not see a dip in numbers even without the vaccine, since that is a typical pattern with a virus – peaks, and then falls? Isn’t the “second wave” usually less severe? Numbers on this one are distorted because of PCR testing, but surely we should be seeing a normal pattern underneath.

    1. So now you are desperately looking for ways to dismiss the vaccine? If it actually works, you are going to claim that the numbers would have dropped anyway? Remember, despite what “old white guy” says, this is not the flu. You catch the flu once and you are immune, herd immunity builds rapidly. People are catching this a second time already. I have a friend who has already caught it twice. She works closely with patients in health care. Fortunately she is young and extremely fit, so she has only been mildly ill.

      Not to mention that this is far more contagious than the flu. The masks and distancing have cut flu rates greatly, but haven’t worked nearly as well against COVID, because COVID is far more contagious than the flu, to repeat my point. Even if the deaths per infection are identical, COVID will kill more. It’s simple math.

      1. https://www.aier.org/article/asymptomatic-spread-revisited/

        The above is an interesting article, rejecting the lockdowns and current hysteria; i.e., the article affirms that you can’t get the Corona Virus from asymptomatic carriers.

        Nor is there any scientific proof that masks and ‘distancing’ have cut the rate of either infections or cases [and there IS a difference] of the regular flu and there is no evidence that this virus is more contagious. To come to such a conclusion would require data that is simply not available.

        And Tim – where did you ever get the idea that ‘if you get the flu [once], then you are immune. If that’s the case, then, why do some people get a dose of the flu every year?

      2. Just wondering: if your friend caught it twice how can the vaccine possibly work? If I understand correctly, a snippet of RNA informs your immune system so it can battle the virus for real when it appears. Doesn’t catching it twice belie the efficacy of an mRNA vaccine or am I missing something?

      3. “If it actually works, you are going to claim that the numbers would have dropped anyway”….yeah, actually they WOULD have dropped anyway. Look up Farr’s Law. Also, it has been proven over and over and over that masks do not stop flu (or the Wuhan virus for that matter).

        And you should look into the history of polio. The polio epidemic reached its peak in 1953 at 60,000 infections. By the time the first polio vaccine came online in 1955, it had dropped to less than 14,000….the same level it had been in 1947. In other words, the epidemic was following Farr’s Law.

        You certainly do spew an awful lot of nonsense.

      4. timmy…I beg to differ….

        “…You catch the flu once and you are immune, herd immunity builds rapidly..”
        Complete rubbish my friend. No one is “immune” to the regular seasonal flu…and the BS “flu Shot” is just that … BS that has no bearing to what will come…only what a few eggheads have conjured up it to what may be.

        COVID kills those over 70…the rest..?? We do NOT need Masks or Social Distancing.
        Masks cannot prevent ingress/egress of sub mICRON Viral particulate matter. THAT’s Science…. only SCBA – NBCW Respirators (Military), – HAZMAT SUITS or a Molecular SIEVE have that ability.

        What we DO we ABSOLUTELY NEED…??

        Is SOMEONE in the Planetary Health Cabal to open their YAP and speak to the influence of VITAMIN D (2000 mcg daily), VITAMIN C w/zinc (500 mcg daily.). Information that has yet to be talked about by flippin anyone….and that my friend is downright CRIMINAL.

        We also need to RE- examine the BS REASONS behind Fauci and friends for TRASHiNG HyrdroxyChloroquine. I would note that the New England Journal of Medicine had to RETRACT 2 Separatre Studies Crapping on HCQ because they were fraudulent

        Also, Should anyone care to look, the Death rate in African Malaria Prevalent countries is approximately. 10/1million. In the Entire Western Hemisphere, it is in the order of 850-1100 / 1 million).

        COVID is a virulent Flu…BUT, it is not in ANY way Shape or form the Ultimate killing machine like the Black Death, Bubonic plague or Spanish flu….but these Lockdowns sure as shit ARE.

      1. And of course, it has been estimated that over half of all the deaths from the Spanish Flu were from bacterial pneumonia…..NOT viral.

    2. LL, you are correct. Timmy is proving to be less than intelligent. Critical thinking has escaped him.

  6. Heart disease and stroke, the flu, pneumonia – have all been cured this year, no one dying from any of that.

    Greatest news in history.

    Or, vaccinate the old folks and people can get uncured from heart disease etc. and start dying from those things again.

    A 75% drop in deaths from Covid would be great unless the vaccine kills them, considering the high risk group is already sick and all.

    1. Except that excess deaths keep on running high. If you were right, that wouldn’t be true.

      1. Where are the excess deaths, where, Where are the bodies, the over run mortuaries. where the hell are they tim?

        1. vowg, It will be very interesting to see the total number of all deaths for 2020 compared to 2019. That however won’t be available until February or around that time. I also wonder if they will delay the release of that information if the numbers are too close to one another. If they are, that might spell doom for the Turds spring election thoughts. I also wonder if he’ll hold off announcing an election until those figures are available. Unless he has already announced something, I haven’t heard either way.

          1. Well Gerry we are at a little less than 55 million world wide from all causes. Last year the total was about 56 million. There are 7 days to go in the year so unless someone drops a nuke on someone the number is going to be close to the same 56 million. Now population increases will push that number up a bit but so far the whu who flu has not changed anything other than the level of hysterical insanity.

        2. +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++/\ OLD White Guy l
          He like me…I wants to know that as well..???

          Where are the VANS pulling a fking OX Cart with some dude on top on a bullhorn screaming.. “bring out yer dead”…..huh.???? Where.??
          FUCKING NOWHERE is where.
          I keep hearing that ICU’s are BUSY…REAllY.?? Well no shit sherlock, that’s simply NORMAL 24/7/365 days a year in any HOSPITAL in North AMERICA.

          I wanna know where ALL these Supposed “CASES” come from.? When I see zero Line ups at the testing station (the only one I’ve seen for a while in calgary on 32nd Ave NE – With the one near our place in SE Calgary (Shawnessy), shut down over 2 months ago. I have to question the #’s no.??

          To me It’s all MAKE BELIEVE crap spit out by the Cdn media Propaganda WHORES and lapped up by the requestors of said lies and Bullshit: Govt and Health Agencies (all Paid Public servants right..??)……While the Karens and Kevins lap it up….unreal.

          After watching the almost daily flip flopping of Govts of all stripes, WHO, National Health Agencies and their spokeperson’s….

          I Believe nothing.
          I question everything.

  7. Check your premise: Do they want fewer dead people?
    Do they want lower Covid death numbers?

    The scary ‘New Improved’ Covid variety ‘discovered’ in the UK was as predictable as the sun coming up this morning.
    After all, these Covid lockdowns are going to solve Global Warming.
    If the vaccine ends the lockdowns then all the birds will die and Greta’s childhood will truly be stolen.

  8. The cases in Ontario yesterday were 2181 with 14 deaths. Covid 19 has a 97.3% survival rate yet our province along with others is being totally shut down on Boxing Day, which is turning into a day governments confine us to boxes.

    Brian Lilley in the Sun reports on plane arrivals in Canada. Over the last 2 weeks 107 flights from around the world arrived in Canada with positive Covid passengers. There is no checking on whether they quarantined or not. Trudeau is praised by the UN for continuing to accept refugees including 100 Australia rejected and Roxham Road is still open. Doug Ford is fuming over this but Trudeau is sticking to his globalist partners to bury us.

    Isn’t the 1st rule for when you find yourself in a hole to stop digging. Well we are being buried by the Liberals. Just sickening!

  9. If they went about this logically, they would vaccinate old people and front liners then turn the rest of us loose. Everyone else could get the shot, or not, at their leisure.

  10. Read a recent local article about a nurse that had severe covid to the point of being hospitalized for 6 weeks.

    She’s better now, but she said she’s still planning on getting the vaccine if only to show it’s safe.
    Whatever happened to “No, give the vaccine to somebody who needs it, I don’t need it because I have immunity for a while”??

    How stupid is it that everybody needs the vaccine even if they’ve already had it? And why should everybody get it? If you’re concerned, get it and let me be.

  11. Government, unlike good investors trying to be approximately right, ends up being precisely wrong by failing to manage risk.
    It should be obvious that seniors vaccinated first is the proper risk management approach, where “cases” actually matter.
    Nope, must control the economy, nobody goes back to work without ihre Papier, or to the theatre, or any public peasantry.
    Here’s what upsets Tulsi Gabbard, the vaccination priority, assuming of course there’s no “new strain,” like influenza.

    https://www.cidrap.umn.edu/news-perspective/2020/12/essential-workers-older-seniors-next-covid-vaccine-priority-groups

    Shouldn’t “Phase 1a” be all seniors and others with underlying health conditions? No, that’s too much like work.
    All we have to do is vaccinate the partying adult children who don’t get sick in the first place, then WE CAN ALL GO BACK TO WORK.

    In 2022, when the rollouts are complete, assuming no further delays or cockups in what’s shaping as the worst healthcare miscalculation in modern history. Thank God we have the Great Reset Build It Back Bigger Indebtedness Crush the Poor with Carbon Taxes to take us off our notions of shared misery. Where would we be without Big Brother? More free and prosperous.

    1. Shamrock, I am old and I don’t want that shit and sure as hell don’t want it forced on me.

      1. That is your choice, which I respect. I live on Vancouver Island where covid is less prevalent than mosquitoes.

        But seniors should at least be given the opportunity if desired.

    2. That is the approach in BC but with 4000 doses from dear leader for a population of 5 million it’s a little hard.

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