Remember that thing called the Covid Pandemic?

In last night’s Reader Tips, SDA regular Deplorable Me posted a link to this page on the CDC website. It leads to some interesting reading and very enlightening data (emphaseses mine):

Comorbidities

Table 3 shows the types of health conditions and contributing causes mentioned in conjunction with deaths involving coronavirus disease 2019 (COVID-19). For 6% of the deaths, COVID-19 was the only cause mentioned. For deaths with conditions or causes in addition to COVID-19, on average, there were 2.6 additional conditions or causes per death. The number of deaths with each condition or cause is shown for all deaths and by age groups. For data on comorbidities,

A little more digging will take you to this page showing the cumulative deaths in America involving Covid-19. Here’s a screenshot of the data shown today. Furthermore you can go to this page to download a slightly older dataset which breaks down Covid-19 related deaths by age range. Here’s a screenshot of this dataset’s breakdown by age range.

For those, like most journalists, for whom #MathIsHard, let’s take a look at the numbers:

  • 2020 Covid-19 related deaths in America: 167,558
  • Percentage of Covid-19 related deaths for ages 0 – 54: 8.16%
  • Percentage of these deaths purely caused by Covid-19: 6%
  • Number of Covid-19 related deaths for ages 0 – 54: 13,673
  • Number of deaths for ages 0 – 54, where Covid-19 was the only apparent cause: 820
  • Current US Population: 330,209,500

One can only wonder what historians will think, looking back at these minuscule Covid-19 death numbers of healthy people under 55 years old, asking why on earth much of our working activities were shut down? While one could offer politicians the benefit of the doubt in March and April, now that September is about to begin, why is anything still shut down?

125 Replies to “Remember that thing called the Covid Pandemic?”

  1. Yes I too wonder. Media induced panic and government incompetence. Who possibly could think it logical, let alone practicable, to attempt to quarantine the entire population? Government experts, that`s who.

    The very idea of quarantine is to keep infected people out of the general population. It is logically and practically impossible to quarantine the entire popualtion. Someones` heads should role.

    quar·an·tine
    /ˈkwôrənˌtēn/

    noun
    noun: quarantine; plural noun: quarantines

    a state, period, or place of isolation in which people or animals that have arrived from elsewhere or been

  2. I have a buddy who was a doctor in Afghanistan. He doesn’t work as a doctor here in Canada but he goes back to Afghanistan regularly to visit family. He told me the virus went through the country like wildfire but nobody died. You see, in Afghanistan medical facilities and access to medicine is so limited you just die if you have one of the comorbidities that kills you if you also get COVID. Anyone who would have been killed by COVID was already dead. We really need to switch to isolating people with comorbidities who are high risk, (like me) and letting everyone else get on with their lives.

    1. Interesting. That’s similar to what I’ve heard about why the numbers are so low in India.

  3. HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHHAHAHAH

    YOU IDIOTS!!!!

    LOLOLOL

    Guess what caused the other conditions in 94% of cases? If you guessed Covid19 you are correct!

    You do not die from Covid19. You die from what it causes. ARDS, pneumonia, heart failure, organ failure, blood clots. Go ahead and check the data if you dont believe me.

    I guess at SDA #mathishard

    Another stupid narrative utterly destroyed.

    1. Most of the people who died from Covid19 would have died from influenza. Every winter flu deaths regularly clean out nursing homes. 2020 statistics will likely be indistinguishable from prior years and likely better than some recent bad years.

      1. We don’t even have actual numbers of people who die from the flu every year.
        I haven’t seen any data on people who died of influenza or the cold, or some other coronavirus besides covid-19.
        I suspect “all” died of covid 19, which could mean deaths are overestimated (willful exaggeration?) by about 50%.

        Can others elucidate on a possible phenomenon of shunting all virus deaths (and more) to covid faster than Cuomo can herd old people into nursing homes and thus turning them into covid death chambers?

        1. “some other coronavirus besides Covid-19”

          You mean MERS?

          The 4 common strains of Coronavirus do not cause death.

          1. In 2020? Please brush up on your reading comprehension skills before commenting and confirming your stupidity.

          2. Heres a clue: there are no other coronaviruses in circulation today that can cause death.

    2. Just like carrots were poisonous. Why, everyone who ate a carrot over 120 years ago is dead now. That’s about the same level of thought as your “narrative destruction”.

      From a health and safety talk at work, roughly 1/3 of men will die with prostate cancer. That doesn’t mean that they die of prostate cancer, it means that they have prostate cancer when they die. Some forms of prostate cancer are a very slow moving cancer that has a high survivability rate, but that starts hitting men later in life and it’s not worth doing the treatments for something that will potentially kill you at 140 years old (because odds say you’re unlikely to live that long).

      Can you see the difference between “died with” and “died of”?

    3. #medicaltermsarehard@allens
      You obviously don’t understand the term comorbidity. I will help you.
      For any medical condition to be termed a comorbidity, there has to be a primary medical condition. That condition either makes the patient more susceptible to the secondary condition or more likely to be adversely affected by it.
      Therefore, by this CDC admission, 94% of the counted C19 deaths already had something else wrong with them. Had they been fully healthy, they would not have contracted the condition, or they would not have died from it.
      By your described perception of the term, heart disease, diabetes, cancer, pneumonia would be considered the comorbidity.

        1. Again, just a link that shows few people are dying of C19 itself. It doesn’t show WHAT CAME FIRST. You said it yourself, few people are dying of Covid.
          The point you are missing… you don’t get fatal covid unless you are already compromised. If you are healthy and take steps to boost your immune system, you probably could suck the snot out of an infected person’s nose and live to remember it.

          1. “You probably could suck the snot out of someones nose and live to remember it”.

            Well that certainly painted a delightful picture, thanks for that, I shall have such vivid dreams tonight.

    4. That’s not what co-morbidity means Karen. Don’t worry you can keep wearing your precious mask if you want. #EnglishIsAtoughMother

        1. So you are saying that covid causes diabetes, dementia, chronic (as in persistent and long lasting) respiratory diseases, alzheimers, obesity, malignant neoplasms, intentional and unintentional injuries and poisoning, in addition to being the only cause of all the other diseases…

    5. Well Allan … I agree with you. Math is hard for us SDA’ers.

      The math of the “compassionate” left that is. You see, we forgot the number – 1. One. We forgot that for you lefties … One … COVID death is too many. So to STOP … One more death … we MUST shut everything down. All of it. Everything. Oh! Except “essential” medical services such as … marijuana shops.

      Then, we can all feeeeeeel good about ourselves.

    6. “Another stupid narrative utterly destroyed”

      Show me your data

      “HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHHAHAHAH

      YOU IDIOTS!!!!

      LOLOLOL”

      is not data.

        1. Keep posting the same, I will do the same.

          So you are saying that covid causes diabetes, dementia, chronic (as in persistent and long lasting) respiratory diseases, alzheimers, obesity, malignant neoplasms, intentional and unintentional injuries and poisoning, in addition to being the only cause of all the other diseases…

    7. WRONG, STUPID!

      “Co-morbidities” in this instance refers to a PRE-EXISTING condition or conditions that the patients had PRIOR TO their contracting Covid-19!
      In other words, these are conditions that were ALREADY KILLING THEM prior to their contracting Covid.
      All Covid did, was hasten their demise a little.

      That information has been out there for months…I guess your pointy little head is incapable of absorbing it.

        1. It notes that 161,392 people died with COVID (row 2). Between them, there were 451,726 non-COVID issues that contributed to death (row 26 or so). Everything after row 2 is not COVID related. They are other, usually pre-existing, conditions. If COVID were a huge threat to everyone in society then the number of co-morbidities would be on the order of the number of deaths instead of being 3x.

          This is evidence that is contrary to your main point. Or please explain how COVID causes Obesity, Alzheimers, and injuries/poisoning, because that’s what you’re saying is happening.

          1. The vast majority are caused by Covid19. Obesity and alzheimers are chronic conditions, not acute like the other deadly conditions caused by Covid19.

          2. Explain “Alzheimers is not acute” to my dead step-mom, A-hole.

            About 18 months from diagnosis to death IIRC. Progression (and treatment) vary a lot from individual to individual, but no one who knew her doubted the wasting disease that killed her.

          1. Or … pre existing respiratory illness !! Ever hear of asthma? Emphysema? And a host of others? How thick does one have to be to imagine COVID is the ONLY respiratory illness? Or that all these others are only “triggered” by COVID.

      1. may I ask a question, does all this mean that with a co-morbidity that may or not kill you for years and months that adding the virus to it will or will certainly bring death on more swiftly. It seems to me that the virus is more dangerous,

        1. “It seems to me that the virus is more dangerous”

          More dangerous than what?
          It’s more dangerous to these people than nothing at all.
          It’s perhaps more dangerous than the regular flu.
          It’s not very dangerous to healthy people.
          It CERTAINLY wasn’t dangerous enough to justify running our economy off a cliff, not to mention imposing these bloody-minded dehumanizing actions such as “social distancing” or “lock-downs” or mask edicts.

    8. So this virus caused all these comorbodities before the virus existed, hence they already had these conditions. Namecalling is not an argument so I will leave it at that.

    9. alla Ass, I have heart problems, Had cancer, and recently a mild stroke, and also had sara-cov-2, and guess what Ass, Ima’ still alive I think, and so do the bill collectors. Sars, may cause death if one’s immune system is compromized, and one has other health issues, but it’s not nearly as bad as you and the unColon think!

    10. Allan, you twit, those 94% were going to die anyway, they did not die of COVID, they happened to have it when they died.

  4. 820 apparently healthy people died of Covid 19. Approximately 40,000 people die from car accidents each year in the US. Also 70,980 fatal drug overdoses in 2019 with a large increase in 2020 with the shutdown largely to blame. There are also about 50,000 suicides with a projected large increase due to the shutdown. Collateral damage from the shutdown will likely be greater than any increase in deaths from respiratory illness.

  5. The lockdown of the general population isn’t a quarantine. Aircraft are still flying internationally, ships and trucks still travel and bring the goods we need. Self-isolation to those arriving in the country / province / city is voluntary. If this were a real medical emergency where tens of millions would die if we didn’t properly apply quarantine protocols then there would be thousands of bodies in the streets of our major cities. Instead there are rioters (who somehow are immune to the rules imposed on the rest of us).

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    1. Don’t worry, keep reading for long enough and you’ll start to pick up enough on how to think effectively. More exposure to the professional number crunchers here should help math become easier for you.

        1. When someone decides to tell me how smart they are, it’s all I need to know.

          Smart “nerds” and smart people who have social skills actually become successful professionals, they don’t need to brag about how smart they are.

        2. So you figured out that 1 + 1 is indeed 3, not 2.

          Now, if you’re as smart as you claim to be, show us how you put on both of your socks at the same time.

          1. No doubt, Allan/UnDork/whatever, will claim to do just that on a regular basis, the rest of us being complete idiots.

        3. Was it really an error, of did you just think so. Even if it was really an error, that only qualifies you as a proofreader.

    2. Yep, fully functional , rational, adult…
      Do your parents know you are playing on the internet again?

      1. playing on the internet again

        He might have to shave his palms before doing that.

    3. People like this are what’s killing our economy. No sane argument of any type can convince them that there was a major overreaction to what is basically the common cold.

    4. Not just math is beyond you, so is reading comprehension and furthermore in your case, seeing past a wall of partisanship.
      When you get covid-19, you don’t get diabetes, become obese, get asthma or have pulmonary disease. That already had them.
      Those are co-morbidities, which happen all the time when people die of covid, and influenza and lots of other things.
      Because viruses are opportunistic and attack at the weakest part of the person’s anatomy, as does covid, being a virus.
      You might get pneumonia and die, but that’s not a pre-existing condition. Are you really too thick to see the difference?
      This has all been brought to your attention, but you are decidedly inattentive, or simply unable to grasp science or math.
      There are none so blind as those who will not see, who shun the light of common sense, information and context.

      1. Yes, but I’m learning a lot more about the values from having to look into this.

        I’m starting to think that you’re correct with the “…simply unable to grasp science or math.”

  7. Walking/driving around sometimes its like Thanos just snapped his fingers.
    We should quarantine all the fear-mongering health experts on Ellesmere island.
    Went to a movie at 11 this a.m. There were 4 couples total.

    1. Initially we were all led to believe this was the new polio, TB or bacak death. When this became obviously not so, qafter a couple of months, governments should have changed policies; they didn`t, just more of the same.

      1. Exactly. It wasn’t the country-killer that was originally forecast, was it?

  8. Fascinating.
    A couple months ago some expert pointed out that, based on the measurement parameters from the Sars epidemic of a few years ago, the WuFlu fatalities would be around 16,000. As cynical as it sounds, trust NO gubmint stats. NONE.

    Ahem, I called this a hoax (the response, not the virus) from the get-go. I had the advantage of 40 years of experience fending off gubmint regulators; I know these people. I also called Tony Fauci a sociopathic fraud from the moment I clapped eyes on him and heard him say, ‘I’m thinking about closing down the country”. No one making that kind of outlandish statement should be accorded respect, especially one who got his MD in 1966, a year after I graduated high school. Tony has a MD but is not a doctor!

    One day the deaths were 100,000. Literally a day or two later it was 175,000. That’s the sort of thing I watch for in making my assessments.

    1. I suspect you don’t have a lot of experience with parsing data. A 5 minute dive into the 65+ age range showed 27% of those who died with COVID died primarily of COVID ( 246,085 out of 916,000). The entire set of age ranges lists 26%, or 307,005 out of 1,160,386.

      That’s their data grouping, if you’re saying that “these other causes of death are symptoms of COVID” then you are saying that these doctors are lying to you. This is your source (and it’s a surprisingly good one). It does not say what you’re claiming it says.

        1. COVID causes Altzheimers? And Obesity? And Poisoning? That’s how you are interpreting the data. As stated above, out of 161 thousand deaths there were an additional 451 thousand co-morbidities (that is, contributing factors that could be the cause of death regardless of whether the person had COVID).

          Are there some medications you’re supposed to be taking?

    2. Keep posting the same, I will do the same.

      So you are saying that covid causes diabetes, dementia, chronic (as in persistent and long lasting) respiratory diseases, alzheimers, obesity, malignant neoplasms, intentional and unintentional injuries and poisoning, in addition to being the only cause of all the other diseases…

    1. Exactly.

      If Joe and the House Girl succeed in stealing the election, you won’t hear another word about Wuhan flu.

      1. Responding to a blatant provocation is another IQ test. How do you think you did?

        1. No, We’ve seen Allen before. He’s very good at telling people who’ve been doing a job for 20 years that he knows more about their specialty than they do.

          Per the old saw, I’m surprised he doesn’t teach teachers.

          1. Talking about teaching teachers, about a millennium ago when I went to college, the common perception was that education majors were the easiest because they were the dumbest. I don’t know if that was true or not, because I was too poor to be able to take a girl out for the evening.
            But I talked to them. One of them told me there was one class which bored her to tears. Yup, it was a class which purported to teach her how to teach. So, actually, I won’t be surprised if he does teach teachers, ha ha.

          2. Oh, dear, you mean there are two of them that hang out here? Two who are several quantum levels above us in intelligence and wisdom? (sarcasm = off)

    1. The flu deaths reported by the CDC are unrealistically low. CDC Reported flu deaths Feb 1/ 20 to Aug 8 / 20 are 6,605. More than 80,000 died of flu in the 2017/2018 season. But all-caps screamers like Allan S would have us take the gospel of their favourite authorities.

      1. They’re not unrealistically low. The flu season was weak to begin with, and measures to slow Covid19 ended the flu season abruptly and early.

        1. Allan S, You don’t know that, you are hypothesizing to support the favoured narrative.

  9. Even ABC is forced to admit that US hospitals get additional funding for C-18
    https://www.abc10.com/article/news/verify/verify-do-hospitals-get-more-funding-by-marking-deaths-covid-19-related/103-36834bad-1113-4f67-8804-5d97e6593745

    This is not about false statements by hospitals, as ABC tries to erect a strawman. It’s about hospitals have a vested interest in the US in reporting C-19 as a cause of death regardless of how many confounding factors there may be.

  10. One word: recession. Do the financial institutions and those who got rich want to admit to everyone who loses their shirt that it was due to their greedy, criminal fiscal policies and deregulation that caused a recession this year… just like every 11.25 years? No. Create a problem to blame it on, use mass media networks and government puppets to distract while hands are elbow deep in the cookie jar. In this case, rebrand the common flu. 99% of people will not die, but fortunately 99% also do not think.

    1. Fascinating. Do tell how shutting down the economy is what ruthless capitalists do.

      You show an Antifa level of understanding the free market.

      1. Hey C,

        I do think he has a point. The government types (Trudeau, his bunch here and democrats, antifa, BLM in the states who want Trump out) and the…to big to fail….essential businesses….big corp and of course…weed shops….
        The governments that want this to continue, want to remake our society and dramatically increase government control over every aspect of the society….this is their (Trudeaus..who famously said he admired the Chinese government the most because you didn’t have to ask permission to do what was right for your people)) best chance to get complete control of our lives. The big corp types have the political class in their pockets due to their political contributions…both legal and under the table. Their motives are to eliminate competion of any kind. Mom and pop shops are shut down everywhere, while Walmart, Amazon et al are allowed to continue business as usual. They have in fact, had tremendous growth during the shutdown.

        The unholy cabal of leftist governments and big Corp have effectively been ceded full control of society. Free market capitalism is not what big corp is all about…they have become leftist government all on their own, with as much or more control over our lives than our actual governments.

        To be clear, I oppose all leftist, socialist, BLM, antifa, Idle No More, occupy anything, tear down statues, burn police stations, abolish/defund the police and any other Allen S types that drink the coolaid and wish to follow the facists that wish to control our speech and cancel culture types that may be floating around……..and wish to infringe on my right of freedom of thought and deed. Just _______ off and leave me (us) alone….

        As always….

        Cheers!

        1. Oh I agree with you Peter, but 99er says it’s financial institutions and “the rich” who want to shut the economy down. It’s not the capitalists shutting things down, it’s the socialists. As you noted.

          I wanted to see if 99er could come up with anything comprehensible to back up the “it’s capitalism’s fault” view.

          1. Hey C,

            Good point! It is the socialists. Free markets are what we need to get back to. To get there we need to take back our governments. In our case in Canada that means #WEXIT.

            Enjoy your comments as well as many others here!

            Cheers!

      2. There were in-the-know US Senators and others who made many millions shorting hotels and cruise lines.

        Capitalism always wins, corruption wins and foresight and intelligence wins. Those wins take place when the average masses lose.

        The Big Short spells out the scenario where there were winners, losers, and corrupt cover ups.

        This does make me wonder if anyone will ever get punished for insider trading who were on the intelligence committees. LOL, silly me.

        Wonder if it happened in Canada? Of course it did but no one was/is looking. Too much other dumb scandal to distract us from the millions of real dollars that were made by insiders selling short.

        Sorry C but the free markets are not really free (nor is the price to participate free).

    1. This is answering all 49 posts above, even your own. A name and timestamp would let us know to whom you are talking. Or you could have directly clicked “reply” without messing up the captcha. Or noting the key values and percentages as I did above would provide context to what you’re claiming that you’re refuting.

      And feel free to shove embers up your own backside, I don’t think any of the rest of us will partake.

      1. Hey C,

        Thanks for the laugh….

        embers up the backside gave me my laugh for the day…..haha.

        Cheers!

    2. Keep posting the same, I will do the same.

      So you are saying that covid causes diabetes, dementia, chronic (as in persistent and long lasting) respiratory diseases, alzheimers, obesity, malignant neoplasms, intentional and unintentional injuries and poisoning, in addition to being the only cause of all the other diseases…

  11. So people like Allan can’t admit that they’ve been scammed. Like the gambler who keeps going back to the crap table even after he’s been shown the die are loaded. This article, note the date, is an example of how the pandemic was ramped up in the early stages:

    https://www.westernjournal.com/washington-inflates-covid-19-numbers-includes-gunshot-victims-among-deaths/

    I guess the comorbidity reason here was a pre-existing condition of lead poisoning.

    If you believed the CDC then can you believe the CDC now. I seem to remember the mask controversy, when we were told that masks aren’t necessary, then an abrupt about face and we should all wear them. If the ‘experts’ don’t know what they are talking about with the mask situation why should we believe their statements about Hydroxychloroquine.

    We have all been doubly scammed and when the alphabet agencies in the American justice system are not held to account you can bet the medical experts and politicians that cause the near economic collapse that we have just suffered will not be held to account either. Especially when the snowflakes can’t admit that they were taken for a ride.

      1. Keep posting the same, I will do the same.

        So you are saying that covid causes diabetes, dementia, chronic (as in persistent and long lasting) respiratory diseases, alzheimers, obesity, malignant neoplasms, intentional and unintentional injuries and poisoning, in addition to being the only cause of all the other diseases…

    1. “So people like Allan can’t admit that they’ve been scammed. ”

      Nawww. I dont even think it’s that. In the old days guys like that stayed home pulling their pudds 24/7 with skin mags. Now they yank themselves to death over blog replies.

  12. https://web.archive.org/web/20200730005939/https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/nvss/vsrr/covid_weekly/index.htm

    “Table 3 shows the types of health conditions and contributing causes mentioned in conjunction with deaths involving coronavirus disease 2019 (COVID-19). For 6% of the deaths, COVID-19 was the only cause mentioned. For deaths with conditions or causes in addition to COVID-19, on average, there were 2.6 additional conditions or causes per death. The number of deaths with each condition or cause is shown for all deaths and by age groups.”

    Here’s how the math breaks down:

    https://i.imgur.com/XH8kvdo.png

    You can see the number is actually now closer to 3. That’s because the sentence everyone is quoting has been on the site since July 1 and hasn’t been updated.

    I accept your surrender.

    1. (sigh). From your very first posting: “Guess what caused the other conditions in 94% of cases? If you guessed Covid19 you are correct!”

      You are reading it exactly backwards. It’s saying that in 94% of the cases, the person had a life threatening condition regardless of COVID. This bolsters the argument that COVID protocols are overblown in terms of the actual risk that COVID causes.

      1. Read the data closer. Covid19 causes almost all of those fatal conditions. The guidelines for reporting Covid19 on the death certificate requires Covid19 to contribute to the death.

        People don’t die of heart attacks, ARDS, renal failure, sepsis, pneumonia, respiratory failure, etc. then get Covid19.

        1. Everyone else posting takes the meaning of the link you provided a different way. I used the tool at that site to derive numbers as support for the view that everyone else shares.

          Yes Allen. Everyone else is wrong. You are the only one in the world who is right. Everyone else is innumerate and crazy. (/facepalm)

          Take your meds. Please.

        2. Allan, and absolutely all of them can not be caused by covid….they are all common….you can’t parse them out
          not one of them is unique to covid

        3. “People don’t die of heart attacks, ARDS, renal failure, sepsis, pneumonia, respiratory failure, etc. then get Covid19.”

          True. They have the underlying condition and then die of the sniffles or a bowel movement. Now do you understand how comorbidities work? They find a lot of dead old farts on the crapper. Should we shut down the economy because of constipation?

    2. Keep posting the same, I will do the same.

      So you are saying that covid causes diabetes, dementia, chronic (as in persistent and long lasting) respiratory diseases, alzheimers, obesity, malignant neoplasms, intentional and unintentional injuries and poisoning, in addition to being the only cause of all the other diseases…

      1. D, Allan is not bright enough to converse with he lacks wisdom and critical thinking ability.

  13. Today’s Headline: One new case was reported in the Island Health Region for a total of 174 since the start of the pandemic. The number of active cases within Island health remains at 14.

    This in a population of 870,000 with one major city (Victoria), one moderate sized city (Nanaimo) and a handful of communities greater than 10K population. Most of the 14 “active” cases are in the sparsely populated northern portion of the Island and a big swath of the mainland, north of Powell River.

    Yet here in Nanaimo, we have increasing numbers of people masking and more businesses refusing entry without a mask. The school system is in chaos with parents not yet knowing what will be open or closed in two weeks time. Last week, my wife and I attended a monthly ‘wine tasting’ group which used to meet monthly. The host held it in his back yard, with each of us assigned a little box delineated with masking tape on the lawn. It was just stupid. One person only, designated to pour the wine, wearing gloves and a mask. One person to enter the home at a time, should the bathroom be needed. Bring your own snack, and be prepared to shout across the yard to the person with whom you’d like to converse.

    The fear level under all these ‘cautions’ of course means the fear level, distrust and anxiety is ramped up out of all proportion to the .00016% chance of encountering one of the known (but isolated) covid infected. Yet time and time again, the response I get from otherwise rational people is “but, but, someone COULD come on BC Ferries with Covid and we wouldn’t know it.” IOW, best we should keep the entire Island locked down.

    1. I have said from the get go, the number of cases is irrelevant, it is the mortality rate. Hourly, we hear from Trudeau’s bought and paid for media party about the “cases” and how Trump has totally bungled the China virus response. Although according to their own government website the mortality rate in the US is (as of today) 3.0% and under Trudeau & Tam the mortality rate is 7.3%. It’s probably all Harper’s fault though.

      1. The mortality rate is neither 3% or 7.3% You cannot possibly have that number with a 99.8% survival rate.

  14. Called it around the second or third week of April. Numbers weren’t jiving and I wasn’t buying the media driven panic porn of refrigeration trucks and perfectly positioned caskets situated behind hospitals, not to mention backhoes burying the dead in Ny’s Potter’s field. Riiiiiiiiiiiiight.
    What a steaming pile of horsesh*t!!!
    Pro tip all you hard done by “front line workers”: Next time there’s a real crisis, avoid the temptation of making cutesy TikTok videos of you and your buds doing dance videos. Morons.
    U.K’s Telegraph finally admitted… yes, that’s right, finally admitted that Covid never killed anyone under the age of 18. Weird huh?
    And guess what…the gov’t is still fng with you. Just saw the news tonight where people in Ireland have their panties in a knot because gov’t MP’s and a Supreme Court Justice were videoed having a great time on a golf course. Were they practicing social distancing rules and masks? Of course not! Even they don’t believe the sh*t they’re cramming down everyone else’s throat. Think they know something you don’t?
    So what’s next? I see it coming down the pipe already…no vaccination, no service. Just you watch.

    Wake up Canadians!!!!

  15. Another question you could ask.

    Would anything have been handled differently, if Brad Wall, or Lorne Calvert, or Roy Romanow had been in charge. Then why are you still bitterly clinging to the Saskatchewan Party? To the CPoC? To the UCP? To Social Credit.

  16. 1918, Spanish flu pandemic, 18 to 100 million dead.

    2020, citizens from every freaking country travelling to at least one other country, every freaking day. Possible to hit as many as 15 countries in one day with a private jet. In 2018, 4.233 BILLION passenger miles. And what do we have? World estimates, only 25 million cases, 18 million recovered, 900K deaths.

    I would guess, extreme lowball on the number of cases. Probably at least a billion already had it, and never even knew. If we had accurate numbers on deaths with no comorbidity, probably less than 100,000, worldwide.

    I just read somewhere that high levels of vitamin D, and you probably will not even suffer symptoms. What do lockdowns do? They keep you out of the sun.

  17. Here’s from an actual Doctor:

    When someone dies from a disease like COVID, they don’t just die from the virus. They die because their lungs get torn up and they can’t breathe. They die because the virus tears apart the cells lining their windpipe and lungs and deadly bacteria crawl in. They die because the virus causes tiny blood clots that stop blood from flowing to their organs. Without blood, the organs fail. If organs like your liver fail, you’d die because toxins build up in the blood and kill their brain. This report lists the diagnosis codes that were included in the death certificates of those who died due to COVID. People can have more than one diagnosis code at a time. For example, lots of people have a code for obesity “E68-E68” and diabetes “E10-E14” at the same time. You’ll notice that the numbers for the diagnoses add up to way more than 161,392. Usually, the death certificate is set up to be like they died from “A” due to “B” due to “C”. For example, in COVID this might be that they died from “acute respiratory distress syndrome (lungs failed)” due to “pneumonia (infection in the lungs)” due to “COVID-19”. This report says that “For 6% of the deaths, COVID-19 was the only cause mentioned.” That does not mean that only 6% of those people died from COVID. After intense investigation (autopsy reports and death certificates are long and detailed!), 100% of these 161,392 people died due to COVID. However, for 6% of cases, there was not another cause listed. That would be due to a very rare circumstance where someone dies from COVID, but the doctors aren’t sure why they died (i.e. their lungs or organs didn’t fail). More likely, it’s a clerical error and they just neglected to list the other causes. In conclusion, this is totally incorrect and a misinterpretation of how death certificates work.

    1. Are you the doctor, or is there a link?
      Anyway, worldwide, there are literally millions of doctors, and you can quote any number of doctors on any side of the issue.
      Like the warmists are “real scientists” too, LOL, who have failed on every prediction for half a century. A lot of “scientists” and “doctors” have axes to grind or grants to protect, and you have to learn to separate the wheat from the chaff. Which you haven’t yet.

      1. Its on facebook. The “doctor” who is a chiro and pushes essential oils. This guy responded to her bullshit. I cant link it any more because she has me blocked after I annihilated her narrative.

        1. Wow, am I impressed. Your “real doctor” actually has a “real” doctorate, sort of. A chiropractor. That makes him an expert on the effects of diseases on internal organs, I see.
          Good to know the kind of experts you quote.

    2. Keep posting the same, I will do the same.

      So you are saying that covid causes diabetes, dementia, chronic (as in persistent and long lasting) respiratory diseases, alzheimers, obesity, malignant neoplasms, intentional and unintentional injuries and poisoning, in addition to being the only cause of all the other diseases…

      God this gets tedious, how do you lefties keep it up for so long, is it a form of OCD?

  18. You’re right Allan, now go keep staying home hiding in your suburban basement and let the big, nasty virus take care of all those evil conservatives and especially those vile libertarians.

    Teats. On. A. Bull.

  19. What are the 2020 numbers versus 2019? I continue to hear that this year’s total is not outside the normal margin.

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