Pleasing Your Enemies Does Not Turn Them Into Friends

Media Vast Right Wing Conspiracy Wuhan Flu 80 Comments

Backbone sighting;

Embattled rookie MP for Hastings and Lennox and Addington Derek Sloan says his controversial criticism of Canada’s top doctor’s handling of COVID-19 was about her job performance, not about race.
 
The leadership candidate for the Conservative Party of Canada is standing by his assertion Dr. Theresa Tam, Canada’s Chief Public Health Officer, should be pink-slipped for following slow-footed COVID-19 counter measures by the World Health Organization he believes delayed swifter protection for Canadians against the disease. […]
 
“When I made the statement, obviously, the idea people would think it was racist was not even on my mind. I would have said those statements about any public health officer that made those decisions in her spot,” Sloan said. “It had nothing to do with her background.”
 
“I have concerns about the way Dr. Tam has responded to the pandemic, I have concerns about the World Health Organization being sort of beholden to China, at least parroting this information from China. It has nothing to do with Dr. Tam’s background, what her ethnicity is. Outside of there being a lot of hysteria right now, I’m not sure where all of the confusion came from,” Sloan said.
 
Sloan asked, “what information is she using and who is it benefiting? I’m not questioning her motives, I’m saying as public health officer, she needs to avail herself of all public information.” […]
 

Sloan said it is his fiduciary duty to hold those in political power accountable on behalf of his electorate in his riding, many of whom, are facing personal and financial hardship amid self-isolation measures to stem the spread of the virus.
 
“Keep in mind, I get calls from businesses every day that are on the brink of failure in our very riding. To me, I’m sorry if I’m chomping a little bit too much here, but I’m concerned about people in my riding. And if I can raise issues that talk about how we could have done things better or how we can get out of this, that’s my duty to do so and I will always do that,” Sloan said.
 
“I won’t be issuing an apology. We’re going to be issuing additional communications to party members and doing additional interviews so that may help to clarify. I never mentioned her race and in no way was it part of my comments,” he said.
 
“People who are making that connection are being disingenuous.”

The first step to recovery is to recognize and call out bad faith arguments for what they are.

80 Replies to “Pleasing Your Enemies Does Not Turn Them Into Friends”

  1. I was discussing this event with a friend yesterday and concluded that standing up to and speaking past the media (a’ la Reagan) is likely the best attribute a conservative can have. I then quoted Kate’s thread title above.

  3. Trudeau, Tam and their “experts” are responsible for much of the damage of Wuhan virus on this country,
    It is 100% documented by their statements and actions.

    Daily morning soap opera is not going to change that.

    Sloan and conservatives have nothing to apologize for.
    That Tam is Chinese is irrelevant in this instance though it is something that the racist lobby can hang on to since they have no defence.

    1. Lev: EXACTLY! If anyone is racist it is Black face Trudeau. Sloan was just making an professional statement and he is right! Now I will make a statement…Millions of Cases…Small amount of Death. WHY ARE WE ON LOCK DOWN??????

  4. It takes a racist to see communism as a racial identity.
    But considering those borne in a communist country never really get a choice about anything then I can see how they would labour under that lie.

      1. Is Mr. Sloan in favour of the fascist polices that have been instituted or is he in favour of treating this as it should have been, like the flu it is?

        1. OWG, apologies for posting most of this again (wiith small addition).
          1) if someone can help, then offer praise & support if they appear to be helping or learning & improving. We don’t need more enemies, more division right now.

          2) masks can help us deal with the assault we are taking from Trudeau types.

          Here’s idea:
          Taiwan, Hong Kong: most wear masks, lots of evidence this slows both chi-com-covid AND influenza.

          Populations that wear masks help reassure experts & elected leaders that they won’t get flattened. Flatten the curve is also a proxy for “don’t flatten my career or reputation”

          Current thinking for many politicians & supportive experts seems to be 2 weeks of stable or declining metrics & we have a safe-ish green light to begin addressing the economy or what’s left of it.

          Anything that helps trigger this green light should be considered, now. Especially if its easy & of minimal intrusion into lives & liberties.

          Wearing a bandana does little to protect me from catching whatever. But it greatly helps other from catching whatever I might carry. Hence it’s a golden rule approach: I protect you, you protect me. And we all help protect our leaders & experts so that they’ll feel safe to declare a green light instead of more ‘broken arrow’ response is needed.

          No doubt there’s more to it than this, but evidence is stacking up this can help.

          If we can’t put on a bandana when in the public sphere, to help the common good, then wtaf?

          1. All completely unnecessary. Wear a mask and then come home without sanitizing your shoes and clothes. You have no idea how many hands anything you purchase have passed through. It is foolishness beyond belief. People who decide they have had enough of tyranny and get out will solve this idiocy. The numbers do not support any of what you advocate or any of what has happened.

          2. OWG, the more people wear masks the lower the chance someone will cough on your clothes. You wear a mask to protect others they wear it to protect you. Like in Taiwan, Korea, Czech Republic etc.

  6. Hey, this is a genius design!
    Let us appoint people of color to all government positions, and no one will be allowed to criticize them, because if they do, then they would automatically become racists.
    What race does Justin Kim Cheng Ho Shi Ming Xi-Trudoe belong to? There should be a race for him, one that excuses his every action no matter what kind of.

    PS: I just clicked through a couple dozens of captchas. This is frigging ridiculous.

    1. Concur

      The other side of that is that those that hire based on identity are doing so only as a defensive measure to keep someone from accusations of racism. This might be due to some moment in their past that they want expunged from the public record.
      Like for example if they put on black face and stuffed a banana down their pants doing a rendition of the banana boat song.

    2. Citro, he is an elite, rich, Quebecker and that is all that is needed. Intelligence, compassion, honesty are not required.

      PS for some reason I am having zero problems with captcha. Lately most posts just go right up with out clicking on anything.

    4. “What race does Justin Kim Cheng Ho Shi Ming Xi-Trudoe belong to?”
      What “race”? Frog, if you want to get racist about it. Wait, Frogs are “…… any member of a diverse and largely carnivorous group of short-bodied, tailless amphibians composing the order Anura. The oldest fossil “proto-frog” appeared in the early Triassic of Madagascar, but molecular clock dating suggests their origins may extend further back to the Permian, 265 million years ago.”
      Now we have that out of the way, not sure what racist tag you can place on my ancestry….Viking. From Norway originally. Fish eaters, whatevs. Maybe Whales, with teeth prehistorically. Back in the day you’d get hacked and slashed for saying so and to make a point, the Frogs didn’t fare well when we rubbed their shoulders on their turf. “We” still occupy northern Fwance, a chunk of Ireland, and a goodly chunk of Britain, besides the Vaterland and part of Mudder Russia, west of the Don River. That’s the Russian Don River, not the one stinking up part of Tronna, for all you poorly edumacated Raptors fans. You’re barely outta the trees from my point of view.

      CAPTCHA…only 2 times.

      1. Sounds like some arrogant French blood visited your Viking ancestors in Normandy:)

        Somehow the Bow River sounds so Canadian.

    5. It was the Demoncraps modus operandi for pushing Obamacare. If you spoke out against it, you were labelled racist. Obama was incompetent. If you pointed it out, the MSM and Demoncraps shouted RACIST!

      1. Wonder when female and ethnic Liberal MPs will realize their Cabinet appointments are predicated solely on the cry racist, cry misogynist opportunities afforded.

        And imagine a future after decades of the Natural Governing Liberal Party accusing anyone who disagrees with them of being a racist.
        A future where Get Conservatives has morphed into Get Whitey.

        Don’t forget to thank your local Liberal.

    6. It is beyond annoying that the liberal left cannot take anything in proper and simple context. There has to be a racial element. It’s nothing but a distraction and a feeble cover for incompetence and perhaps even betrayal.

      I don’t put it past Tam to be a ‘friend’ of China and a supplicant to the W.H.O.

      Turdoo does a fair amount of Chinese boot licking as well.

      Being called racist means nothing to me. I simply consider the source and brush it off.

  7. The mainstream media in Canada is a bought and paid for propaganda organ for the LPC. That said, many Canadians are naive sheep for buying the hype they give out.

    Our SJW’s in the media go on about ‘old white men’ daily, while escaping any criticism. Sloan did not even touch on the ethnicity of Tam, and they predictably go after him in unison. They(the media) slander an entire gender(males) for the Polytech shooting by one crazed individual.(30 years and counting now!)

    The problem with Canada, is not stooge politicians like JT, but the leftist control of the media, judiciary and education systems.

    Until the root cause of the reason for this fact is addressed, elections don’t really matter much. Especially if the alternative to the left, are liberal lite counterfeit ‘conservatives’.

    1. Well said John E. With hindsight, we can see that the leftist control of the media had already begun by the time of the Polytech shooting because the media studiously avoided mentioning the background of the shooter (Gamil Gharbi). Surprisingly, Wikipedia actually includes some relevant details of his upbringing:
      “The shooter, Marc Lépine, né Gamil Gharbi, was born to a French-Canadian mother and an Algerian father. His father, a mutual funds salesman, did not consider women to be the equal of men. He was physically and verbally abusive to his wife and son, discouraging tenderness between mother and child.”
      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/%C3%89cole_Polytechnique_massacre

      1. Another thing that the media fail to mention re: Gamil Gharbi, was that his father left Canada, right around the time of the shooting. He immediately went to work for Maummar Gaddafi in his terrorist government

      2. The G&M at the time carried that story…for a day. Then it was Marc Lepine forevah. And Wymyn.

  8. Whoa, “fiduciary duty”.
    That’s as quaint as ‘thee’ and ‘thou’.

    Don’t think I’ve ever heard a politician — or any public “servant” for that matter — use that noble term before. Kudos to him.

    Here’s what he should say next time:
    “People who see everything through a race filter are the real racists”.

    Now let’s see if he submits!

  9. Maybe Conservatives could stop providing the bait for them to gobble and spew their interpretation for the masses to swallow.

    1. It makes no difference whether the Conservatives “provide bait” or not. The jump to the left crying “racist” (or homophobic or xenophobic or whatever nonsensical moniker they use) is reflexive and is always used by the left. No….quite frankly, it is time to shove that nonsense right down the throats of those who cry “racist”. It is time to no longer play defence but full-on offence.

    2. I’m with Art.
      Letting the neo-Marxists determine the parameters of conversation is like letting your dog decide what it’s going to have for dinner.
      Sloan must go after anyone calling him a racist with legal action for slander and or libel.
      Always bring an assault rifle to a knife fight.

      2. Exactly. How politics were done in the time of Gladstone in Britain. Lawsuits, generally fought in the news papers, too. People could actually write English back then, not like today. Make it hurt financially and folks mind their P’s and Q’s.

  10. didn’t the TurD’Oh call that Quebec woman RACIST for asking about money to compensate QUEBEC for illegal border crossers?

    so RACIST is all he has, shallow jerk

    1. As the Chinah folks shut Wuhan down, they didn’t stop anyone from leaving Mudder Chinah to spread the WuFlu to the World. In your ear Mr XI and all your ancestors.

  13. “I am President, and you are fake news”

    We need more like this, not less. Admittedly it takes courage…

  14. All everyone needs to know: Tam directed the opposite of everything she learned from the SARS event.

  16. As someone smarter than me once said in comments; “you know you’re over the target when they call you a racist.”

  17. As a physician with an Asian ex I fully endorse Derek Sloan’s remarks and concerns about the WHO and Dr. Tam. And, by the way, my ex is no fan of the mainland Chinese government either — does that make her a racist?
    Pretty rich that the charges of “racism” almost entirely come from backers of a party leader who dressed in black face with a banana down his pants more times than he can count (although in fairness “more times than he can count” in his case might just mean any number greater than three).
    Sloan is doing exactly the right thing — don’t back down and don’t apologize. Appeasement didn’t work in the 1930s and it won’t work now.

  19. Cries of racism are the post-modern refuge of the scoundrel. Screech out “racism!” and all criticism goes away. I am glad that Derek Sloan is sticking to his guns. Scheer could learn a thing or two from this.

    Tam’s credibility has been shot. Even relying on bits of paper she allegedly has (which is sufficient for her groupies) doesn’t protect her from charges of absolute incompetence and sycophancy for which there are mounds of evidence. Every single article the bribed press trots out in her defense ends with hundreds of people pointing out what a fraud she is.

    Liberal voters were more than happy to re-elect Sock Boy despite his blackface-wearing past. The idea that they occupy any moral ground is laughable.

    Does Tam think that Justin, who hides in a cottage and answers no questions, will defend her after this? Look what he’s done to other women in his party. Tam will either be richly rewarded for her incompetence and tucked away in a faraway post or will thrown under the bus when things get too hot for Pierre’s little idiot.

    1. Tam will be sent to replace Canadian Dr. Bruce Aylward as the second-in-command at WHO HQ in Geneva (A UN post where employees pay no income taxes and receive extremely generous “expense allowances”).

      Both have shown that their loyalties are not to Canadians, but to WHO and whomever pulls the strings at WHO.

  20. I predict that Tam will be on our new, devalued five dollar bills, beating Terry Fox et al.
    Then, instead of “Spocking “ the bills, we could “ferengi “ them.

  21. Sloan is 100% right and should never be required to even address those idiotic accusations. It is a sign of Western Civilization’s decline and insecurity that we’re paying attention to this bullshit. Enough, no more self flagellation. No more sensitivity. And if race pimps and victimology Olympians can’t stand that, they van f**k right off to their safe spaces.
    Libranos are Chicom bitches and so is Tam. Accusing Tam of representing Chicom interests is no more racist than accusing Blackie or Tedros or Karen Hajdu of the same. They’re all traitors and their hurt feeling do not matter.

  22. “When I made the statement, obviously, the idea people would think it was racist was not even on my mind….”

    If that’s true, then Sloan is an idiot.

    1. Ah so?
      Idiot Sloan,cause he fails to understand the depravity of Liberal Emoters?
      Seems to me Sloan is learning quickly.
      Can you?
      Media party is in death spiral.
      Even with endless bailouts using taxpayer dollars,nothing can save the Presstitutes from themselves.
      Daily, as Ontario John notes, they call citizens racist bastards,insinuate only pure Libtard thought can be socially acceptable and then they proceed to lie,usually by omission.
      Now insisting that criticism of a public official who is a blatant failure,must be racist and sexist, because she failed to perform the duties of office..Ties the propaganda in for the viewers..
      You Canadian are Racist bastards…Wanna be leader of CPC Sloan is a Racist Bast…Citizens you have NOTHING in common with the CPC…
      I guess journalism,or “Changing The World” is not a place for logic.

      1. JR,
        I agree, Sloan appears to be learning.
        Let’s hope more can learn & quicker is better, given all the givens.

  23. Am I a racist for wondering if Fanci Sox Boi has primary loyalty to the country he said he would break up if Harper won another election or to the country he said he admires most for their basic dictatorship?

  24. I don’t care if he has to take his shoes off to count his siblings!

    He’s a Conservative MP who didn’t instantaneously combust when faced with the racist bullshite.
    A Conservative MP who is fighting back.
    He’s rarer than Liberal common sense.
    Yes. That rare.

    Watch out Conservatives! It may be infectious.
    Get some on ya.
    Now. Go getcha some Media!

  26. My god, is that some b@lls from the conservative party?

    You mean, someone who is not going to apologize for being Canadian, for protecting the best interests of our country that thousands of our forefathers died to create?

    Someone who has the stones to call out Trudeau for trying at every turn to destabilize our country, admit as many refugees and immigrants as he possibly can to change every aspect of Canadian society in the UN image?

    Someone who will call out the MILLIONS of dollars that Liberal$ like Cretin, Breton and the Trudeau foundation have earned with their cozy relationship while they try to implement Huawei’s 5G network so that the Chinese Communist Party can spy on the USA?

    Finally!!!! Sheer please take your position in the back benches..

    Mr Poilievre, please sign up for the leadership race, your country needs you..

    1. “Sheer please take your position in the back benches..”

      No, GTFO of federal politics and become a major of a liberal shithole like Tory and Brown.

    1. Does absolutely nothing for us.

      Need a strong leader who doesn’t talk like he has a gig on CBC radio and will call Trudeau out for who he is, his record and his hatred of Canada and Canadians.

      Max is not that guy – too much baggage and splitting the vote will kill us.

      People are angry and realize what they have been sold with this open borders and globalization garbage, time to bring this to the voters!

      1. yes COLON, last federal election proved there are a lot of stupid assholes like you around, as uninformed as any liberal voter

    3. Citronella, no keep those non conservative bible thumping ass holes right were they are. The PPC is a conservative party, not beholding to the church,

  30. Now Tam says there’s no evidence herd immunity works, just because it’s always worked in the past.
    It’s different this time; Liberals are trying to seize more power over us.
    Based on unproven science about virology of COVID-19, just speculation, with all roads leading to more government control.
    GIGO. We got lucky with bad data and ended up being approximately right; so far.
    Now statists take us to being precisely wrong but with them making out like bandits.
    Imho, we will find out poor economies and massive employment are more deadly than this or any other flu.
    BTW, no evidence to collectivists means they get away with ignoring evidence and data contrary to their ideology.

  31. The Media, the ChiComs and their puppets, Turdhole, Tam, Hadju, every Globalist Liberal you can think of on the Chicom payroll want opposition silenced. Nothing new there… Liberals are always silencing opposition by labeling any opposition to Liberal policies, “racist”… Its an old Liberal trick… Throwing around the race card shows a desperation coming from the Chicom Liberal Bloc Party and their Media. Liberals are always looking for ways to silence critics of their warped policies, immigration, bilingualism, multicult are just 3 social engineering schemes imposed by the LIberal parrty that are deemed to be “off limits” for open discussion, they are free speech dead zones because the LIberals and their Media say so. Having a blackfaced racist french language supremacist accusing others of “racism” in an attempt to silence opposition and shirk accountability is bizarre in the extreme, blatantly authoritarian, but also in keeping with Liberal Party tradition… such as it is in Peeairs deranged Post Nation State known as, Turdholeland.

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