42 Replies to “Scott Moe On Premiers Summit”

  1. So, there were no tangible results of “Summit”. I didn’t expect any.

    Keep sending cheques to Quebec while they do their best to kill the west. Steady as you go.

    1. Indeed.

      This is why I don’t believe that there is one single leader to change the entire country. Just an MP or two who might suck less than everyone else.

    2. I am deeply concerned about the environmental harm done by rail traffic, especially hazardous goods. As well, I think that all Asian container traffic is suspect for carrying contraband. So, I propose that all rail traffic from the port of Vancouver be spot checked and certified. Yes, it will stall the entire Canadian economy and will plug up Port Van…. But, think of the children.

      OH yes…. A per rail car levy should be charged as well to pay for the operation.

  2. I saw Moe on TV yesterday. Talking out one side of his mouth about the wonderful things he’s doing to mitigate the horrors of climate change, and begging for pipelines out of the other.

    “Keep sending cheques to Quebec while they do their best to kill the west. Steady as you go.”

    True Ken. But only with the able assistance of their foolish brethren in Ottawa, Trawna, Edmonton and Vancouver.

    1. “Keep sending cheques to Quebec while they do their best to kill the west. Steady as you go.”

      Yep none of these PC Party Alberta Premiers listed below did anything to try and change the Equalization Payments going out of Alberta but its all Quebec’s fault.

      Now you all think Scheer will do it because Harper didn’t?

      Time to change course and there is only one Party that has Changing the Equalization Payments leaving Alberta and that is Max and the PPC.

      Our Plan

      Provinces should not be receiving equalization payments for decades, just like individuals should not be receiving welfare cheques all their lives. It’s time to stop rewarding provincial governments for not adopting better economic policies.
      The Constitution does not commit the federal government to spend $20 billion a year on equalization; does not prescribe any specific formula; and does not define what “reasonably comparable” means.

      A People’s Party government will:

      Reduce the total amount of equalization payments to provinces, and make sure that only the provinces with the greatest needs benefit from it.

      Establish a parliamentary committee to review and make recommendations on a new formula that will avoid the welfare trap and provide poorer provinces with the right incentives to adopt pro-growth economic policies and reduce their dependence on federal money.

      Ensure that the new formula respects our Constitution, makes provincial governments more responsible for their policy decisions, and is fair for citizens of all provinces.

      Progressive Conservative Premiers from Alberta 1971–2015

      The fourth government of Alberta was first led by Peter Lougheed, defeating the 36-year reign of Social Credit in 1971.
      Peter Lougheed served as premier, winning four elections, until 1985 when he retired from public office. Some of Lougheed’s notable accomplishments were the limited Alberta Bill of Rights, and the Heritage Trust Fund.[10]

      Don Getty, one of Lougheed’s long-time cabinet ministers, returned to politics to win the leadership of the party. Getty’s premiership was endorsed by a win in the 1986 general election that saw the NDP climb to 16 seats as the official opposition. Getty’s reign became very unpopular as he led Alberta into large deficit spending, and marked an era of big government that, some said, the province could not afford. In the 1989 election he was defeated in his Edmonton-Whitemud riding, while his party still won a majority. He sat in the gallery as an unelected Premier until he won a seat in a by-election in Stettler.[11] His refusal to leave as premier helped Laurence Decore’s Liberals skyrocket in popularity. Getty resigned and was replaced in a bitter leadership battle by Ralph Klein.[12]

      Ralph Klein, the former mayor of Calgary, led the party into the 1993 election, promising a new era of debt reduction and fiscal accountability. He walked away with a slim majority. Ralph Klein’s folksy appeal helped the Progressive Conservatives renew themselves. He led the party through two elections, gaining in popularity each time. The price of oil rebounded and the government, despite low rates of taxes on the wealthy and corporations, was showing a surplus of $3 billion every year. In early 2004, Klein announced that the Alberta debt had been paid in full.[13] He was rewarded by voters in the 2004 election, despite running a campaign with no new policies. His party lost a number of seats to the Liberals, and during the campaign he stated this would be his last election. In 2006 at a Progressive Conservative convention delegates forced him to pick a retirement date by giving him relatively low numbers in a leadership review.[14]

      Ed Stelmach succeeded Klein as premier, following his win of the leadership of the Alberta Progressive Conservative party in 2006. He won the 2008 provincial election, but, troubled by dissension within his party as well as lagging in polls behind the upstart Wildrose Party, resigned as the party celebrated its 40 years in power in 2011.
      Alison Redford subsequently was elected party leader and became the first female Premier of Alberta. Despite strong opposition from the Wildrose Party that most polls and media predicted would end the PC’s 41-year dynasty, Redford and the PC party won re-election in April 2012, making Redford Alberta’s first elected female premier. Due to a steep decline in approval ratings and a spending controversy,[15] Alison Redford announced her resignation on March 19, 2014, as premier of Alberta, effective March 23.[16]
      Alberta Deputy Premier Dave Hancock was selected as premier and interim party leader by the Progressive Conservative caucus on March 20, 2014,[17] and became premier on March 23, 2014.

      Jim Prentice was elected as the permanent leader of the PC Party on September 6, 2014 and succeeded Hancock as premier on September 15, 2014. He turned the government around on a number of crucial issues, cancelling the closure of the Michener Centre, for example. He was elected to the constituency of Calgary-Foothill in an October 27, 2014 by-election, as the PC Party won the four by-elections held that day while the rival Wildrose Party did very poorly. Less than two months later, most of the Wildrose Party caucus—including leader Danielle Smith, crossed the floor to sit with the PC Party. However, Prentice government’s popularity dropped sharply by spring 2015, due to a budget that was unpopular among the political spectrum, with the collapse in PC support also attributed to falling oil prices and the past scandals under the Redford government. Prentice had over a year before he was obliged to dissolve the legislature, nonetheless he decided to call a snap election. On May 5, 2015, the PC Party’s 44 straight years of government ended as they lost 60 seats in the Legislature to fall to third place in the legislature, while the NDP won a majority government over the resurgent Wildrose Party which finished second and become the Official Opposition. Prentice resigned as party leader and as an MLA, leaving the PC Party with only 9 seats.

      1. Max will never see real power.
        Canada is moving to the left faster than a K-becer hits the Restobar on a Friday afternoon, le. (Not that there’s anything wrong with that.)
        Except for some of the delusional on SDA, conservatives have had it with K-bec Prime Ministers. And no its not bigotry, its history.

      2. “make sure that only the provinces with the greatest needs benefit from it” (equalization).

        There in lies the caveat in Max’s plan. The escape plan. Vote for Max and oops, Quebec has the greatest need.

        Time for Quebec to leave Canada (full independence, not sovereignty-association). Max can then become President of Quebec.

    2. I watched the end of the media questions and was disgusted with the media appeasers tripping over themselves to claim how progressive they were. The only bright spot was Kenney reiterating the source of the Alberta and Saskatchewan disunity over resource movement blockages. Horgan was particularly slimy but he had lots of competition from Legault.

      1. So some of those western Canadian Premiers disappointed you it happens with some Quebecer Politicians as well.

        But not all of f them in either Western Canada or Eastern Canada but they are few and far between.

  3. Shorter Scott Moe.

    “I vow to work against the interests of Saskatchewan, do everything within my power to keep Saskatchewan paying money to the ROC with no discernible benefit, and vote to increase my pension before I retire.”

  4. I want all those who think they can live without oil to stop using it immediately, that includes the idiot PM Trudeau.

    1. Just apply a “carbon tax” to all oil leaving the province, to places that have a carbon tax.

      If people complain just say “sorry, but your province has a social licence for carbon taxes. Pay up.”

      Captcha says tractor trailers are buses. Must be run by liberals.

  5. Premier Kenney is the one to watch.

    He couches all of his statements with an appeal to unity. He outlines the fracture lines and the actions (or lack of) that threaten to worsen those fractures.

    He is laying down the arguments that, if necessary, will form the basis for a move to independence.

    Much like the members of the colonial congress, he is exhausting all avenues for fixing these fractures – trying to reverse the disregard – dare I say contempt the laurentian and coastal elites show towards Alberta (and by extension its neighbours).

    And if those efforts fail the arguments and declaration will be the next (but not final) step. The American Revolution went on for six years after their declaration. I doubt the agony would be that prolonged for Alberta. But it won’t be as simple or painless as many think.

    IMO Jason Kenney is very well aware of all of the above. And should it come to it he is capable of leading the exit. All of the leaders in the American Revolution were solid supporters of remaining British. Until the king and England made that untenable. I think the premier and a lot of other western Canadians are of a similar mindset.

    1. Bull

      Kenney supports Globalist Scheerdeau…

      Kenny is the high pressure steam valve keeping you all who want to separate from actually doing it

      Kenney is doing his job very well.

      He has you hooked, line and sinker

      Wake the f up Alberta

      Your better than this governmental control crap.

      Max and the PPC are offering us a great platform but what’s even better than all that we who want control over all levels of government in Canada need to call their fn bluff.

      We take over the PPC and then in power we at the very first convention we force our hand on full control over government who is supposed to be there for us first not what we have today pushing us all further left eh Scheerdeau?

      If the convention fails and we lose well then we all fn separate.

      It’s a poker game let’s call their fn bluff.

      Once an Albertan always and Albertan…

      Angel

      1. Max wants Alberta to stay in Canada for one reason: so the money keeps flowing “to the provinces that need it”. And the province that needs it the most?

        One guess.

        1. Not a guess

          Your just plain wrong

          Max wants to lower the equalization Payments to all provinces in order to force them to develop their own resources as Western Canada has done.

          Max wants to keep Canada together and most Canadians agree with that for now and he’s not pretending like Kenney is with separation.

    2. If the Liberals win the federal election, and if Kenney then follows through on his promise to hold an equalization referendum, we might be past the point of no return vis-a-vis Alberta independence.

      How would Alberta vote in an equalization referendum? Serious question. Would 99% of Albertans vote to open the constitution and scrap the equalization provisions, or would there be actual opposition (within Alberta) to this?

      If an overwhelming majority of Albertans vote YES to changing equalization, what happens when the federal Liberal government says no, which they inevitably will. Or if they offer an insulting trifle, like 1 or 2 billion off the yearly 22 billion dollar tab. What then?

      At that point, if Kenney wanted to he could run in the 2023 election on an explicit independence platform, while promising to hold a referendum on separation from Canada if he’s reelected. I could easily see Kenney, if he was so motivated, leading a successful such campaign and becoming the first prime minister of an independent Alberta.

      But Kenney’s an Oakville boy and a pan-Canadian at heart. He may unwittingly stir up the population into an unstoppable push for Alberta independence, if he goes through with his equalization referendum, but I don’t think he’ll be the one who will take Albertans across the finish line. Hope I’m wrong but I think we’re going to have to find someone else.

      1. Kenny might have been born in Oakville but he’s Saskatchewan to the bone. He was raised in Wilcox and went to school there. I don’t think he was a Hound but must have been there when Wendell played for them.

        I don’t believe he has a separation thought in his head. Few Albertans do.

        I was around when the last trudeau was in office. He stirred separatist sentiment to the point that the WCC ( Western Canada Concept) Party elected Gordon Kessler in a by-election (Olds-Didsbury) in the spring of 1982. Some of you will recall the WCC. It was an AB separatist party led by lawyer Doug Christie.

        Kessler beat a PC candidate in the by-election but by fall in the general election he was soundly defeated.

        Kenny will know all that history and will be aware of the separatist grumblings in the province. He wont be buying in.

  6. Well said Gord.

    The immediate hurdle is the removal of the libranos. If that fails to happen look for more western discontent.

  7. The west has been taking it up the ass so long they’ve forgotten …
    that they’re taking it up the ass.

  8. I think the first true crisis ahead will be when the TMP project attempts to dig the spread in BC for the first time. It is a certainty that there will be large and likely violent protests. (They will be spectacular fundraisers for the left)

    And as the province of bc both opposes the project and has no provincial police it will fall to the feds to act. Or not.

    If Trudeau is in power and caves – abandons the project – the confederation is far more in jeopardy than it is today.

    1. I have been on a pipeline job that the left environmentalist and token Indians took over.

      They had their fun one even chained them self to a gate.

      Police finally shut it down with the threat of being arrested.

      Protesters when it comes to oil and gas can all be sent home packing with or without force for in the end it becomes their choice to leave and not come back and Max will make sure that’s their only option.

      Max won’t put up with their shit.

      TrudeauScheer not so much.

        1. Gord the all knowing

          Everyone go home

          Don’t vote for Gord knows the future

          Please…

          The majority of you are in for a big surprise

          No more Liberals

          No more Cons

          No more NDP

          No more Greens

          Canadians are sick of the corrupt political state that Canada is in, the majority are looking for a complete change.

          The old LbCons guard is over

          Next…

          Dam the polls right Hitlery

        2. You are absolutely correct on that Gord

          We will know late in October 21, or early October 22, 2019

        3. abtrapper

          Good call but no I do not know the future.

          All I have carrying me these days adtrapper is hope.

          God’s hope

          Is

          My only hope

          By the grace of God I go

          Again great call out.

      1. Max won’t even promote oil and gas development in Quebec. Just read the PPC platform.

    2. He won’t abandon the project, exactly. He is facing removal by his Chinese masters precisely because of his lack of progress in getting the pipeline to get Canadian oil to Pacific (Chinese) ports built.

      I can understand Beijing’s frustration, in a way.

      In China the pipeline would have been finished years ago, with live ammo used on anybody standing in the way and whole villages bulldozed with an hour’s warning.

      The builders would have cut every possible corner on safety and quality to get the damn thing built by the deadline set in Beijing. The cheapest possible materials would have been used. The death toll from accidents would have been immense. The finished product would be leaking every few miles, poisoning every river it passed and rendering the land uninhabitable for miles around.

      You wouldn’t have heard about any of the above except in the Epoch Times.

      1. I disagree with your premise.

        For your saying Canadian Pipeliners would allow for

        cheapest possible materials would have been used. The death toll from accidents would have been immense. The finished product would be leaking every few miles, poisoning every river it passed and rendering the land uninhabitable for miles around.

        Canadian Pipeliners (Fitters, welders, X-ray Techs, machine operators, Hot Tapping & Plugging Techs and labourers) would call out any safety and defective pipe and weld.

        You don’t know the oil patch very well.

        You actually think us Pipeliners would allow a shoddy pipeline job to pass on top of going through the Rocky Mountains that we all love.

        I have worked on nearly every pipeline in Canada.

        Safety and Environmental and Quality are taken very seriously and most of us would make it known if deficiencies were allowed the press and regulatory bodies would be informed.

  9. Be prudent. Don’t easily trust Max, a Quebec boy with a nice pension. Don’t split the vote. Let us start with tanking Tiny Tater and go from there, tabernac…

    1. “Don’t easily trust Max, a Quebec boy with a nice pension.”

      No Sir! Put your faith in Scheer-the-steer, a nutless Ottawan with a nice pension.

  10. And still there are so many who think “it’s too soon to start shooting the bastards”.

    The awkward stage is long since past. Canada is over, no one, no party, can save it. No new country is possible, because no matter where you go, you have a majority of free shit zombies. No matter where you go, no one will say “we have to disenfranchise a lot of people to prevent this ever happening again”.

    The root of the problem; one person, one vote.
    The solution to the problem; no representation, without taxation.

    If you are not paying into the system, if you have no skin in the game, your vote corrupts the system. If you collect water from everyone else, pour the water into the government pool, fill a glass for yourself from the pool, then pour some from the glass back into the pool, you have no skin in the game.

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