Now, it's official.
All three cases were heard on Jan. 24 and a decision came down on Feb. 26. The court dismissed the case, despite the fact the student unions' have policy statements saying they support free expression and free association.
Now, it's official.
All three cases were heard on Jan. 24 and a decision came down on Feb. 26. The court dismissed the case, despite the fact the student unions' have policy statements saying they support free expression and free association.
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An interesting talk on democracy.
Our democracy no longer represents the people. Here's how we fix it | Larry Lessig | TEDxMidAtlantic
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PJy8vTu66tE
About tweedism and 0.02% of power.
While I was an undergrad, I didn't have much use for the Students Union. I was required to pay a fee for an organization that did little for me and didn't represent my interests.
Similarly, while I was a grad student, I was supposedly represented by the Graduate Students Association and I recall having to pay a fee for that organization. Shortly after I started grad studies, I ended up being my department's representative at GSA meetings. It was then that I saw just how useless and self-serving it actually was. For example, dissenting from the majority opinion was discouraged.
The only real purpose the SU and GSA serve is to provide an apprenticeship, of sorts, for those students who planned on pursuing political careers.
Haven't you heard? Movie actress Jennifer Lawrence is taking a year off from making movies to "fix" democracy.
There. Now you can sleep better at night knowing that she, who didn't even finish high school, is labouring for your political benefit. (Yeah, right.)
Acadia University in Nova Scotia has its own version of Jordan Peterson that the snowflake students and administration are trying to silence.
Margaret Wente: You can’t say that on campus
There are dueling petitions on Change.Org. The one supporting Mehta has twice as many signers as the one to remove him from teaching.
I know it sounds simplistic but the modern versions of Komsomol and Mao's Red Guard rule our universities today and the administrations have given in to them everywhere.
Absolutely correct...and not simplistic at all. Think Occam's Razor.
I read the court decision and Danielle Smith misrepresents it.
The court says the clubs were treated badly, an SU was 'incompetent' in its handling of the clubs, that there was no clear evidence of political or religious bias and that the clubs need to do a few simple things like clean up their constitutions and elect additional executives to meet the SU mandatory requirements.
Danielle Smith? Why would any conservative rely on her?
my big intro to student marxism came during a meeting of the Brock (University) Press back when korean airlines 007 was shot down.
I was a photographer for the paper whilst working full time and studying part time.
the token marxist saw no problem with the outrageous deed, seeing thru anti-american eyes.
I asked him if his view would be precisely the same if one of his family was killed. cant recollect what he said.
marxism is like a form of viral brain infection.
I had an fleeting impulse to smash his face in.
I think non-leftists are fighting the university censors and morality police the wrong way. Perhaps humour and mocking is the only way to erode the power of progressive religious fundamentalism. Think Rhinoceros Party. Can't have a club dedicated to conservative or libertarian ideas, then how about a Hitchens Club:
My own opinion is enough for me, and I claim the right to have it defended against any consensus, any majority, anywhere, any place, any time. And anyone who disagrees with this can pick a number, get in line, and kiss my ass.
Christopher Hitchens
Or an Orwell Club:
"If liberty means anything at all, it means the right to tell people what they do not want to hear."
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Mark Twain Club:
"I never let schooling interfere with my education."
Mark Twain
"The human race has one really effective weapon, and that is laughter."
Mark Twain
Make the university and their co-cultist students look ridiculous by outlawing satirical and ironic clubs of popular literary and historical figures who are dedicated to mocking progressive religious fundamentalism.
Danielle Smith "I am pro-choice". So you are one of those evil Canadians. Consider this:
What is the difference between Hiltler's exterminaion camps and Turdeaus Liberal abortuaries? Nothing. They both kill unwanted people
I don't know what it was like at your alma mater, but at mine the student government fee was not technically mandatory. It was automatically charged on your fee statement, but if you went down to the student government office and raised a stink they would refund it to you. That meant you forfeited access to any student government resources (such as, technically, any student clubs) but in six years not once did anyone ever check my membership for anything.
I expect that legal grey area ("you don't have to be a member") is the stuff such rulings are made of. And, to be intellectually honest, if we're going to point out that the various and sundry lesbian transgender bicycle mechanics of colour student clubs have nothing to do with the alleged purpose and goals of a university then we have to admit that a men's rights or pro/anti-abortion club doesn't either. Not being able to form a non-academic club on a university campus isn't a meaningful restriction of one's rights.
Well you know, nobody really -has- to go to RyHigh. There are other schools.
On the other side, nobody says you -have- to hire recent RyHigh graduates. If those resumes were lost in a tragic boating accident, that would be very sad indeed.
There's lots of good reasons to criticise what's going on in universities.
Most, if not all, are either directly funded by taxpayers or indirectly through tax breaks, grants and subsidies. As such, student groups that hold the same philosophical ideas as many taxpayers should not be prohibited. Taxpayers will eventually rebel.
Universities are increasingly becoming homogenous orthodoxies. The prohibition of non-confirmist, non-leftist groups only increases the tendency towards bias and the purity cycle. This isn't healthy for higher education or society.
The double standard is blatant. Leftist groups can promote violence (antifa) and racism (demonizing whiteness) without censure.
There's more reasons, of course, but a few to think about.
I was gonna say as well, courts of law are intended for laws. There are no laws that state organizations must follow their own codes of conduct, and if they do not they can be taken to court. Courts are intended for laws passed by legislatures and for the the constitution. Courts are intended for enforcing contracts that have the force of law behind them, but student union policies have no such force of law behind them, unless perhaps the student union policies are part of the university student contract, and almost certainly they are not. So that's probably why the case was dismissed.
It doesn't matter if the student unions' have policy statements saying they support free expression and free association, that doesn't mean those policies are enforced by the Canadian legal system.
If there was one court that might have been applicable for this case, it might have been the human rights commission and their kangaroo courts who have no problem inserting themselves into disputes regardless of whether laws have been broken or not.
There are several references in the court transcript where the Student Union or its agency tells Students for Life that their club was rejected because its purpose is to oppose abortion. Aside from jurisdictional questions the court seems to rely on club constitutions and number of executive members in its decision.
Danielle Smith doesn't misrepresent the case.
It would be interesting to know which of the demanded changes to its constitution the SFL club refused to implement.
Western Universities have fully supplanted the Soviet Union’s thought control. Longtime admirers of Totalitarian State authoritarianism ... our Universities are keeping the Communist Dream alive. By controlling the minds of young impressionables.
We must not allow such anti-humanist actions to be codified into law. We must become ACTIVE in RESISTing their Fascism.
There are several references in the court transcript where the Student Union or its agency tells Students for Life that their club was rejected because its purpose is to oppose abortion. Aside from jurisdictional questions the court seems to rely on club constitutions and number of executive members in its decision.
Danielle Smith doesn't misrepresent the case.
It would be interesting to know which of the demanded changes to its constitution the SFL club refused to implement.
It's been more than 40 years since I finished my B. Sc. and I recall that the SU fee was mandatory back then.
When I was finishing my Ph. D., I had a kerfuffle with the Grad Students Association when I opted out of its health insurance plan. Since I took academic leave from the institution were I was teaching in order to finish my degree, my employer's system already covered me.
The GSA, however, got its nose out of joint and, when I notified it that I didn't need its plan, I was interrogated about why I wanted to do that. Somehow, the concept that I wasn't about to pay for the same coverage twice didn't sink in with the neo-leftist that I spoke with. She couldn't comprehend that people could actually pay for their own medical plan on their own or with money from other sources.
But abortion is excused because the unborn aren't really people yet. Oh wait, the Nazis also considered their victims "sub-human."