"Us", meaning them. (link fixed!)
It's the story of two projects, the proposed air fuel terminal in Montreal East and a liquid natural gas port facility in the Saguenay region. It's the LNG project, with a proposed 650 kilometre pipeline, that caught my eye.
According to Le Devoir, the Quebec ministry of the environment has decided that these two projects, with the potential for thousands of jobs between them, won't have to meet both "upstream" and "downstream" emissions tests before being approved.








They lost on the Plains of Abraham but have been winning ever since.
They lost on the Plains of Abraham but have been winning ever since.
Exactly.
In addition, I've long believed that the Quebec Act was the worst piece of legislation that was ever inflicted upon Canada, even though it was passed well before Confederation. That's when the whole headache began.
Is there a link to the LNG project?
Now if Quebec were to use transfer payments from Alberta to build an LNG plant in Montreal, without upstream or downstream emissions consideration before approval, that would seem a tad unfair.
This is the same as the windmills. There's an election coming. They have to keep the idiots who believe in magic happy, killing all that nasssssty Western oil so the Toronto/Montreal/Vancouver crowd will vote for them.
We are so screwed.
It is funny watching the impotent huffing and puffing of people who talk separation, have had multiple reasons to separate since 1900, but have never tried, and never will. Also sad.
Pretty clear at this point that Alberta, Saskatchewan, and Manitoba, despite multiple wounds inflicted on them by the east, clearly are OK with that; even welcome it. The cancelation of the crow. The airforce maintenance contract taken from Manitoba. The CWB. The annual event of the railways that got the crow cancelled, but can never seem to muster even one railcar to move grain. The Salmon Arm salute. Keith Davey's "screw the west, we'll take the rest". The railways were given what, 500 million acres of land? The crow was cancelled, none of that was taken back. They have failed to move our crop every year for what, 3 decades now? Why haven't we simply seized land in retaliation? Brad Wall worked for them, and now Scott Moe is their tool. If I was the premier of Saskatchewan, within an hour of Trudeau standing up on Parliament and saying that a tax was being unilaterally imposed (while a so called negotiation was underway), I would have stood up in the Saskatchewan legislature and declared that we were no longer a vassal of Canada. But that is something you would do, only if Saskatchewan truly was your primary interest.
The RCMP that seized the guns of High River is still operating here. And every day, the people here are patting themselves on that back that the same governments that gave us residential schools, the 60s scoop, will save us from the cupidity of Ottawa. The laws of Canada have never helped the west. The government in Ottawa is worse than the UN.
Kevin said: "The laws of Canada have never helped the west."
It's funny you should say that Kevin, because there's a strong argument to be made that they haven't helped the East either. With the exception of certain areas of Vancouver, Toronto and Montreal, they haven't helped anybody.
Rather than cut off our noses to spite our faces, because Alberta can no more make it as a country than Quebec can (land locked) I suggest we make Montreal, Vancouver and Toronto into provinces.
Without the full resources of Ontario, Quebec and BC to draw on, their depredations would be limited to their own borders.
"They lost on the Plains of Abraham but have been winning ever since."
Bingo! From brown bags filled with cash to aircraft maintenance contracts.
Link is to Brian Lilley's site:
http://brianlilley.com/quebec-gets-a-pass-alberta-gets-the-shaft/
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Je_me_souviens
When Canadien's say, "Je me souviens" (Quebec's official motto) they remember a conquered people.
Britain's success in the (worldwide) Seven Years' War forced France to cede all of Canada to the British at the Treaty of Paris, except for their traditional rights, language, customs, social structures, schools, economy, civil law, oath of allegiance, church ...
These thin skinned red frogs have held a grudge for 250+ years because the victorious British were too magnanimous to march them into the St. Lawrence River.
From what I can determine, the gas will come from...wait for it... Quebec! After much hand-wringing, Quebec passed a bill in 2016 to allow fracking. So it seems that Quebec gas has no downstream emissions as opposed to Alberta dirty gas and oil. Well past time to tell the whole lot of them to FO. And you can add those clowns in BC to the list.
Rather than poking posters here with a sharp stick about kvetching on the current situation, what exactly do you have in mind to do about the It? Hmmmm? Any suggestions, sport?
Check the archives, I've posted suggestions about dealing with BC, when C. Clark wanted a cut of Alberta's resource wealth that BC is not entitled to, to build pipelines. Yeah, the masterminds of that RE mess in the Lower Mainland, populated by .gov & union meatheads.
Mr Kenny has actually voiced some of those ideas on throughput of finished product on Trans Mountain, tolls on NE BC gas shipped through Alberta on dealing with BC, which surprised the crap out of me. Those were some of my suggestions a few years ago. I've also suggested alternative routes to get stuff to tidewater, one being a pipeline to Valdez Alaska. Product gets to Asia sooner than even Gateway would. A couple or three days of shipping costs saved, goes a long way on economics. I even mapped it out & calculated some rough economics. Gateway would have gone trough similar geography.
Hell, some enterprising FN's up the coast from Loopy Land are proposing the Eagle Spirit Pipeline, to exit Alaska, instead of BC ports. I'll bet you haven't even heard of them. You're too busy slagging folks here to come up with anything remotely constructive. Sounds more like you want to egg on some feisty rhetoric over & above what's posted here already. Like that's gonna happen? For all we know, you're some RCMP troll looking for a few scalps, to further your career.
So, STFU unless you've got something constructive to say here, bub.
The Quebecois are angry at their own stupidity, rather their ancestors' because while Wolfe and his army were camped out all summer, terrorizing the farmers for food and burning down farms, they did nothing but hide or run away to Montreal. They left the farmers to a zero crop for the winter. It was September and young Wolf got physically sick. The British had to do something so they climbed the cliff and waited to do battle in the old fashioned way in the horizontal mode, wearing their pretty red jackets. The locals were snipers,no horizontal showdown for them. They were hidden in the woods on their bellies. The Brits lost men. The Brits only won because the French left their Fort to snoop around and got caught doing so. If they would have stayed put, Wolf would have died of natural causes and the remaining British army would have married those lovely French girls.
We would all be speaking French now or U.S. citizens.
James Wolfe was 32 yrs old! Wolfe with an e, correction.
There has only ever been one solution; get out of Canada. But, since no leader outside of the criminal province of Quebec will even mention it, no one will vote for it, no one will admit it is the only way to be free of the socialist cess pits of Toronto Montreal and Vancouver, ...
It's a non-starter, so there is only put up and shut up. 150 terms of Trudeau as Prime Minister.
I could be wrong but I think I read somewhere that in order to separate from Canada peacefully a province needs to have other provinces involved in the majority allowing it. There is always invasion by an outside force.
A country can't make it if it's landlocked? You mean like Switzerland and Austria? Besides that Quebec isn't exactly landlocked.
Oh but they're our first citizens!
Well past time to tell the whole lot of them to FO.
We can't even tell the eastern b******s to freeze in the dark!
Rupertsland now!
Quebec and anything that emanates from it is the most corrupt jurisdiction in North America.
Putting aside the really bad history (histrionics actually) and good old-fashioned bigotry that permeates so many of the comments here, it is certainly true that Québec has been hypocritical with regard to this whole affair. However, it is hardly alone: the Maritimes, Ontario and, yes, our friends in BC have all been part of this too.
That said though, the real culprits are decidedly not in Québec City - or in Victoria, for that matter - but in Ottawa.
James John is that You?
You do not know your history calling people bigots and moving towards histrionics...l' affaire Quebec was about the control of North America. It was a big deal. Ottawa caters to them when the P.M. is from there. It's all a communist game. It is AB who should separate, not Q.C. The money is too good for Q.C. Everyone knows this. Besides, the Chinese, the Vikings, the Basques and maybe more were all there before the French.
Je me souviens, all right!
You do not know your history J.J.
The control of North America was through Quebec.
Give me a break...calling people bigots.
A thing with histrionics is permeating here....from you, but yes I agree with you that the Feds are disingenuous.