How Deep, Señor Maduro?

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It's just a death camp, now.

Starving Venezuelan oil workers are growing too weak for heavy labor. They are too fatigued to act quickly which leads to more fatal accidents. Crude oil makes up about 95% of Venezuela's exports. The country has no other source of foreign income.

I warned there'd be bulldozers.


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That's what they get for not building earth-friendly solar panels. #GREENJOBSNOW!!!

About a month old, from Caracas Chronicles:

“What happens if Venezuela runs out of oil to export to the U.S.?”

Sounds crazy, but let’s see what has been happening thus far:

When president Chávez took power in 1998, Venezuela produced some 3,400,000 oil barrels per day. If the ongoing oil opening had been completed, oil production would have reached five million barrels per day in a few years. However, the Revolution was against the process and did everything it could to stop it. They succeeded.

Instead of five million barrels per day, OPEC reports that, according to “direct contact with the government“, Venezuelan oil production for December 2017 was just 1,621,000 bpd. The same report shows an output drop of 216,000 bpd in December, 118,000 bpd in November and 130,000 bpd in October.

The aforementioned figures show a catastrophic situation in our main industry. Throughout 2017, oil output in Venezuela dropped by 649,000 bpd, which represents almost 40% in a single year. To understand the magnitude of the drama, it’s enough to say that after nationalization Venezuela took approximately 20 years to increase oil production to the levels “rojos rojitos” destroyed in our year. Dear God!"

https://www.caracaschronicles.com/2018/02/01/oil-black-future-oil-output-keeps-dropping/

No sympathy. They voted for it, let them enjoy the results of their life decisions.

History is full of the success stories of socialism.
People never learn.
The only safe bet, is which country is next.
South Africa is making a serious attempt. Maybe them.
Ontario, Alberta, BC, all making serious bids.
Saskatchewan is going to try again soon. Maybe us.
UK, Germany. You would think the one country that would know by now that socialism was bad was the the one that had a national socialist German worker's party...

It is like nature, seeing that humans have beaten plagues, famines, invented an actual brain virus that caused people to kill each other like zombies

Unfortunately, if I was to replace the name Venezuela with Canada and I could then make a prediction that oil production will fall at least equivalent percentage in canada over the next 20 years.

Other than the fact the chavez (and now maduro) at least had the balls to publicly state that he was socialist, we have the same gov't here in canada (minus the balls of course). Of course, we'll have plenty of polar bears to eat.

Next up...Canada.

There is one upside - Maybe the workers will be too weak operate the bulldozers.

Rats! In Alberta we don't have any rats to eat, we got rid of them last century. Although like Rachel Notley, they do occasionally sneak in from other provinces.

Where is the UN? This is a very sad situation. Humanitarian relief should be provided.

"I warned there'd be bulldozers." With socialism there always is.

Well said.

We always underestimate the lure of the promise of a free lunch.

'If only Chavez had survived to serve his people' - Sean Penn probably

It is pure evil to say live as I say, not as I live.
Next person who comes to you, saying what you want to hear in exchange for a vote, tell them that you will vote/donate/whatever, when their house is no longer on the grid, and uses only "renewable" power. When they stop using fossil fuels to travel. When they grow their own flax, soak the straw in ditches, and make their own linen. Using only horses and manual labor of course. When their office only has heat and lights when the wind blows. When Parliament/Legislature/town office is the same way. When they pass a law saying that people can declare their support for fossil fuels, or stop using planes, trains, buses, cars, home heating fuel, electricity, ...

When they actually live the way they legislate/command/bribe that you live; then and only then do they deserve support. Otherwise, vote NDP so that the country can collapse and disappear as fast as possible. When Ralph Goodale is travelling back and forth between Ottawa and Regina in a horse drawn cart, and sleeping on the ground rather than using fossil powered hotels, only then will you know that he actually believes the crap falling out of his mouth. Only when they are wearing parkas while sitting in Parliament when the wind is not blowing, using candles that they made themselves from the beeswax from their own personal hives. Only when they give up the armed RCMP security do you listen to anything they say about guns. Only when they give up air travel, do you believe anything they say about carbon. Only when a shooter/bomb maker/knifer/driver is on the floor with them while Parliament is in session are they actually living your life.

Please stop.

The UN should pay, means exactly one thing; THE UNITED STATES. No one else pays for the UN. No one else provides troops, hardware, nothing. As for the US helping, Venezuela elected people who publicly trash the US; let them eat each other in the socialist paradise they created for themselves. Enablers like you really make me angry. You charge in on your white horses, and "save" people from the consequences of their own bad decisions. And then, those people you just saved, MAKE MORE BAD DECISIONS.

'I applaud the efforts of the Venezuelan people to decarbonize their economy' - Justin Trudeau probably

So if the oil workers are becoming too weak to do heavy work, does this mean they'll be punished for sabotaging the revolution?

Where's Sean Penn when the nation truly needs him......

"Enablers like you really make me angry. " All I said was that someone needs to help these people who are starving. I think that is called being charitable towards your fellow man. It is hardly "enabling". Providing the basics to sustain life does not inspire a desire to continue with a disfunctional system. All of the people did not make the bad decisions that lead to this, but all of them are starving. What do you want to do, just let them (children included) starve to death? Unfortunately, some people on SDA sometimes can seem very mean spirited. Not everyone . . . and not always, but I think people sometimes get carried away with their cynicism. It's depressing.

Let us see now.

“Venezuelans reported losing on average 11 kilograms (24 lbs) in body weight last year and almost 90 percent now live in poverty, according to a new university study on the impact of a devastating economic crisis and food shortages.”

Hmm, isn’t it the socialist/fascist, communist and other such ‘ists dream to make everybody equal?

To put a fine point on this, consider:

The conservatives (classic liberals) want to bring everybody up. To make, and this is important point, everybody that is interested better off than they were the day before.

The socialist/fascists want to bring everybody down, except themselves of course, because they care.

The conservatives work to make everybody that wants to be prosperous on the up side.
The socialists work to make everybody that does not want to be poor on the down side.

And that is how things work in the real world.

It appears then that the socialists not only in Venezuela are succeeding in their stated goal.

Those in Venezuela are just slightly ahead of our time and the socialist extremists that run the government of Alberta.

You probably can think of some other jurisdictions of Canada that follow the Venezuela lead.

Smh ... and the oil industry executives who have failed to perform under these conditions ... have been fired and replaced by the military. Let me know how that works out.

Canada is NOT the next Venezuela. Canada is run by a cabal of the descendants of the Chateau Clique and the Family Compact plus a few others who joined that exclusive club over the years. These people are not about to let ANY politician destroy their golden goose.

Trudeau is the current assistant manager for now, but if he endangers the House built by the cabal, he will be gone very quickly, then the next A-M can take over and while he'll be allowed to "tweak" the system a bit, the status quo WILL be maintained at all costs.

Some of the commenters here should have more faith in their ultra-rich masters.

Makes Soviet bread lines seem like a nice opportunity for socializing with your neighbors. This is SERIOUS business. Note that Venezuela’s (formerly) poorer Latin American neighbors are refusing to help their brethren. Screw the UN ... charity begins at home, eh?

Not out of the realm of possibility. In the soviet union the crime was called wrecking and could earn you a trip to the gulag. Solzhenitsyn gives a good account of what happened in the Gulag Archipelago.

Your outrage at our reticence in providing aid is perhaps well meaning but and the big but here is that we have been aiding these failed states for far too long Linda. Until every Canadian is living a reasonable life style by their own efforts then we don't have the where-with-all to send aid overseas. We have been doing it for over a hundred years and the hand-outs get larger every year, at what point do we wake up and realize that we cannot save the world, nor should we. As long as we send aid to areas of the world that cannot propagate their population without the aid we are in essence causing more misery than we are relieving. Aid if given must be given on condition that it is short lived and not a life long commitment to countries that cannot perpetuate themselves. A simplistic example is the aid we have bestowed on many nations that now are sending their overpopulation into our societies and as such are now causing untold problems within our societies.

yup, feed the soldiers so they can keep oppressing the civilians. And that is all aid will do. Leave them starve, and even the soldiers will probably turn on the bus driver

LindaL, it's people like you who are the problem, as you don't understand what the dynamics are down there, and you are a little light on understanding basic human behavior.

I warned there'd be bulldozers.

Almost as bad as facilitating the drug trade in Afghanistan...guarding the opium fields. Most of which comes to the US and Canada. 8,000 hectares under cultivation in 2001, more than 300,000 hectares under cultivation by 2017.

But then, it's only a backhoe, one at a time.

Mat 7:3  And why beholdest thou the mote that is in thy brother's eye, but considerest not the beam that is in thine own eye? 

https://southfront.org/wp-content/uploads/2017/11/Screenshot_1-44.jpg?x17560

https://www.globalresearch.ca/trumps-hypocritical-concern-on-heroin-addiction-sustained-by-us-led-war-on-afghanistan/5628138

There were 189,000 heroin users in the US in 2001, before the US-NATO invasion of Afghanistan. By 2012-13, there were 3.8 million heroin users in the US according to a study by Columbia University Mailman School of Public Health. Extrapolating the 2012-2013 figures (see graph below), one can reasonably confirm that the number of heroin users today (including addicts and casual users) is well in excess of four million.

Since 2001, the use of heroin in the US has increased more than 20 times


Bulldozers ?

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How much $$$ did Bush pay the airline pilots to commit Twin-towering suicide? Or did they threaten to kill the pilots families ? Allahu-Bush-bar !!

Thanks for providing my morning funny paper

I rest my case...

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The substance of Trump's candidacy has been making dick jokes and period jokes,[note 10] and giving voice to the dark, hateful side of "took ur jerbs!".

hay strapON, ewe ever git sick of looking like an idiot????

why does this situation remind me of rev jim jones and jonestown?

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stradivarious is just one of unme's alter egos.

ignore zhe.

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I appreciate your posts LindaL, but have to disagree with this one on the UN.
it will be a repeat of n korea, the food aid was IMMEDIATELY funneled to the MILITARY. it assuredly did NOT go to the 'intended'.
kinda like most of the 1/3 of a Trillion in aid to ahfricah since the end of colonialism in the 50s.

we sadly have to simply stand by and watch the tragedy play itself out. at *some* point let the lesson SINK IN that socialism is its own worst enemy and invariably morphs into death, stagnation and tyranny.

Maybe he's right...Kenji's 'proof' just keeps on giving...LOL


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“”We won with the poorly educated. I love the poorly educated.
—The Donald, immediately after winning Nevada[382]

furthermore, in regards to the entire foreign aid issue, I had a huge eureka moment in my poli sci studies @ McMaster back in the mid 90s.

the prof pointed out a severe 'unintended consequence' of said aid.

it CLOBBERS the local suppliers and businesses. how, HOW can a local farmer EVER hope to compete with all the 'free stuff' pouring by 100s of tonnes? how? his farm fails, then HE takes his place in the 'food stamp' line. and thus the vicious circle is established.
now the goodie-2-shoes crowd has *seriously* fcuked things up. and, lots of examples to cite if one cared to look.

it truly was a significant attitude changing enlightenment.

see? academia does have a part to play in the affairs of the nation.

I suspect there are numerous NGO’s and UN Agencies that are anxious to trade food for sex ... extra food for child sex. Just as soon as the Clinton Foundation gets everything coordinated.

Our media might cover this story more, were it not for the inconvenient fact that Canada is more or less a voluntary communist society -- still, we have more of the Chinese than the Soviet brand which at least works for commerce. And we seem to have East German standards in both Olympic athlete training and surveillance of dissidents.

Betcha didn't know that, but you're probably being surveilled right now reading this. Someone's building a file on you, and when the time comes to use it ... you'll find out who.

"Canada is run by a cabal of the descendants of the Chateau Clique and the Family Compact plus a few others who joined that exclusive club over the years." Otherwise also known as the Laurentian Elite.

As your link in Reader Tips showed, thanks to his adoring media, part of the Clique you mention, even after being a total screw up on the world stage, the support for Shiny Pony is back to forming government status.

It is hardly "enabling".

Being stupid has to hurt. Otherwise, people won't stop being stupid.

When things first started getting bad in Venezuela, people interviewed complained that the problem was that the government wasn't being socialist enough.

Therefore, they're not hurting enough to stop being stupid. Let the hurting continue.

"...Germany. You would think the one country that would know by now that socialism was bad was the the one that had a national socialist German worker's party..."

Unless there had been a concerted effort ever since, started by the Nazi's erstwhile ally, communist Russia, to direct and support consist efforts around the globe by socialists, communists, and their fellow- travellers to maintain a narrative that obscured the declared socialist aims of the National Socialist German Workers Party (NSDAP, Nazis) and try to smear conservatives by falsely associating Nazism and fascism with the political right.

Good one, Linda. At least there would be some more employment for "sex-workers" who are lucky enough to not catch any of the diseases imported by UN relief workers.

"...All I said was that someone needs to help these people who are starving. I think that is called being charitable towards your fellow man. ..."

No, helping those people who are starving might be done, and might be done out of charitable motives by those who do actually help, with their own resources. Saying "someone needs to help" isn't being charitable. It's a reflex conditioned to absolve us and also at least in some cases to excuse a power grab by someone else who purports to solve problems on our behalf.

Jesus Christ is quoted as saying the poor will always be with us. (Whether you believe in his divine nature or even that he existed at all) that should be taken to indicate that we can't solve "poverty" but we always will be presented with opportunities to choose between helping alleviate the suffering of individuals around us or ignoring their plight. Of the former, there are plenty of people close to home if we care to look.

Linda

Calling for the UN (doctrinaire socialists) to save Venezuela (flagship socialism!) would be admitting that their One World government system is a failure.

The UN would sooner invade the US to save the world from capitalism than "help" Venezuela.

Agreed on the previous comment, the only real money the UN has, is what the US MISTAKENLY gives it. Its time to starve out the UN and demolish that evil, socialist, Muslim organization.

One should never use the "what about the children" excuse.................

I would love to agree with your concept of an enlightened self interested Laurentian Elite,controlling Canada's affairs, however I suspect time and inbreeding has reduced them to lisping idiots, for the record of extremely wealthy families and their skills thro the generations is well established.
Paul Martin junior being a fine example, ditto our current finance minister.
Face it.
If Justin Trudeau is the best they could find for a frontman,what shape do you really think the "real" government is in?
We are governed by fools and bandits,with delusions of adequacy.
Best crew ever for the fine ship of state.

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