When The FBI Does It, That Means That It's Not Illegal

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Chris Buskirk provides an overview;

The FISA Abuse Memo is out and now we know why the Democrats were desperate to keep its contents hidden from the public: it confirms the worst fears not just of President Trump's supporters but of everyone concerned about the abuse of police power, government corruption, and the sanctity of our elections.

The memo shows interference in the 2016 presidential election by hostile elements within a United States intelligence agency. It wasn't the Russians we had to worry about--it was rogue actors at the highest levels of the FBI and Department of Justice. Left unanswered is to what extent the West Wing knew about or was complicit in this gross abuse of power.

Oh, they knew.

More -- new information emerging that Rod Rosenstein threatened congressional members.

(Via)


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When I see the term "insurance policy" why does the JFK assasination come to mind?

They will scramble like rats when Inspector General Horowitz memo is released in March Probing Reports FBI Demanded Agents Change 302 Interview Summaries.
"The 302 form contains information from the notes an FBI agent takes during an interview of a subject. It is used by FBI agents to “report or summarize the interviews that they conduct.”
An informant is telling the IG more than he needs to know.

"Hey- Hillary Clinton,James Comey, L Lynch, Obama.

Pass The Popcorn and get me a Coke."

Hey WAPO, Democracy dies in the darkness of the DOJ and FBI.

They will scramble like rats when Inspector General Horowitz memo is released in March Probing Reports FBI Demanded Agents Change 302 Interview Summaries.
"The 302 form contains information from the notes an FBI agent takes during an interview of a subject. It is used by FBI agents to “report or summarize the interviews that they conduct.”
An informant is telling the IG more than he needs to know.

"Hey- Hillary Clinton,James Comey, L Lynch, Obama.

Pass The Popcorn and get me a Coke."

Sorry for the double, but I thought the Capicha missed me.

A great man once said;
"The time will come when our Constitution will be hanging by a thread."

We need to hang these traitors first..

everything that has come out has been known for months and nothing has been done about it. Does anyone here think anything will be done now?

Where are Bill and Hill hanging out these days? Are they together writing their memoirs?

Steyn also has an excellent summary of the importance of The Memo.

https://www.steynonline.com/8431/un-candid-in-camera

I'll wait for Unthing and Strapon to post so I know what is really going on!!!!

Thanks for that link.

I am starting to get the impression that a healthy percentage of Americans DON'T CARE if the FBI/DOJ abused their powers since it was for the greater good of getting rid of Donald Trump.

I have now heard Rep Gaetz make the statement multiple times that, so far, we have only seen about 15% of what they tend to release to the public about this. Hmmm.

Anyways, like many others, I am left to ask... What's next? Seems to me that this now rides almost entirely on what the FISA judge testifies about what they were told. If this judge is suffering from TDS also and are themselves a member of the 'deep state', this could stall right here.

I have my doubts also. The deep state swamp is too much a part of the Democrat party.

Good one!

You are correct. But now there are no longer any procedural or evidentiay excuses.

I don't say that Rosenstein didn't make that threat, but be sceptical of what Greg Jarrett says.

That scum Rosenstein was so transparent in those interviews, any poker player would have loved to deal that subversive into a game because every time he lied (which was 90 percent of the time) he hopped in his chair twice, if they asked him the time, he didn't hop. I couldn't believe he was that transparent with his tell. This is a lot of fun watching an attempted coup by idiots that believe only what each other says, happening in a country where there are far smarter people that are patriots and family lovers first and willing to sacrifice to not end up like Venezuela or North Korea.

By default, or whatever, the right person now sits in the Oval Office to clean out the crap right to the bottom of the sewer.

I really cannot believe that there isn't anyone in the mass media with a shred of integrity.

They scream Hitler and Stalin at Trump. Do they realize what characterizes the Nazi and Russian Communist regimes above all else? The secret police. That is a group who is not answerable to anyone but the dictator, and holds power over anyone else. Are the DOJ and FBI beholden to Trump? Are you kidding? They are still loyal to their deposed master (thank God for the Constitution) for whom they acted as a secret police for eight years, and are still acting on his behalf.

Is everyone in the mass media either so blind or so corrupt that there is no one to point out the obvious? If anyone was Hitler, it was Obama. And Trump has the Herculian task of cleaning out the Augean stables. The Constitutional crisis was allowing the FBI to become a private secret police. If Trump is successful in flushing out the miscreants, that is NOT the Constitutional crisis. Au contraire. That will go a long way in restoring the Republic.

Where have all the journalists gone ? The message now is it doesn't matter where or how the information came from , Trump colluded in should be impeached. The sudstance backing this up is someone was charged with lying to the FBI and they were able to force a deal by threatening someone's family. No secret police tactics ? Is there not one journalist in the mainstream that is slightly curious why smashing cell phones and destroying emails doesn't get you charged with obstructing justice ?

The issue I have with the FISA warrant is the judge. Who is the judge and how can (s)he be so stupid as to sign a warrant based on what was presented. Now I can understand the first time BUT the warrant was renewed 3 times. Long before the 3rd renewal the dossier had been shown to be fake and false. Fool me once shame on you. Fool me 4 times and I must be an idiot unable to learn how to tie my own shoes.

But the rabid Demos and enraged MSM still think the Dossier is factual and not to be questioned.

That, right now, is the stumbling block. Clearly, it is a fake hit piece, but, it’s being treated like the same smear question as “when will you stop beating your wife?” How do you prove someth8ng that doesn’t exist?

And eventually ... we will learn about EVERYONE involved in Mary Jacoby’s pre-FISA visit to the White House ... where she spent 14 hours strategerizing with ... the WH “Resident” and others. Immediately AFTER that meeting ... the FBI petitioned the FISA Court for surveillance of the Trump Campaign.

https://theconservativetreehouse.com/2017/12/21/oh-dear-trail-of-russian-dossier-origination-now-directly-leads-to-the-obama-white-house/comment-page-1/

The architect of the Steele “Dossier” plotted and planned with Obama to OVERTHROW our electoral Democracy. I sincerely hope ALL the players in this treachery are put into the general prison population where Mom-jean-wearing inmates are made to perform wifely duties for the most hardened of criminals. (Please take all puns as intended).

"it confirms the worst fears not just of President Trump's supporters but of everyone concerned about the abuse of police power, government corruption, and the sanctity of our elections"

Conservatives concerned about abuse of police power!

Every year about 100 unarmed Americans are killed by police. Where are the conservatives concerned about abuse of police power? Did Trump call for extreme vetting of wannabe policemen before being given badges and guns?

100? In a nation of 300 million? Big whoop.

Actually 325 plus 20 million or more illegals.

And 100 unarmed does not mean innocent or not to blame for the incident that led to their death.

And how does that number compare to Canada?

hillary's exploits resemble lavrenti baria vying for the top job.

except when daddy comradeski steel croaked in 53(+/-) baria's ummm, 'foot in the door' got lopped off. let's hope the phenomenon applies to her too. baria was one of the singularly most evil persons to have ever lived, let alone 20th century.

this WHOLE episode is a lesson in power. the underlings tremble fearful they will 'offend' the great leader. so trample each other and the 'opponents' who can rat out the most of them first.

it's a vicious circle of course, the more that goes on, the more entrenched the rot and corruption. around and around. tyrants all thru time know this instinctively and see it elsewhere to mimic. it's why kim jong unhinged does what he does.

it is why hellary tried her version until the 'what happened' happened, and now it's all. falling. apart. the anti-Trump rhetoric meanwhile, is running only on inertia . . . .

Excellent per usual from Mssr. Steyn. And it bears specific focus to consider the breach of Law by the FBI and DOJ ... “candor toward the tribunal”

https://www.americanbar.org/groups/professional_responsibility/publications/model_rules_of_professional_conduct/rule_3_3_candor_toward_the_tribunal.html

(3) offer evidence that the lawyer knows to be false. If a lawyer, the lawyer’s client, or a witness called by the lawyer, has offered material evidence and the lawyer comes to know of its falsity, the lawyer shall take reasonable remedial measures, including, if necessary, disclosure to the tribunal. A lawyer may refuse to offer evidence, other than the testimony of a defendant in a criminal matter, that the lawyer reasonably believes is false.

No surprise in today's Toronto Star: "GOP memo is nothing close to 'bombshell.'"

Correction:

100 “unarmed” CRIMINALS per year (although I don’t buy your premise of “unarmed”).

I’ve never been a criminal, doing criminal things that warrant police intervention ... hence my lack of fear and interest in those who do. Every police killing is thoroughly investigated ... and things like “he had his hands up” ... and “he was shot in the back” get fully vetted and corrected. Corrected for EVERYONE ... except the dull witted defenders of CRIMINALS behaving criminally.

Criminals earning their final payday. Play with fire, you get burned.

Those 100 killed are bad actors, and bleeding hearts snivel about them. Maybe carrying a weapon, threatening an officer with it, disobeying a direct command, several times, to drop the weapon, resisting arrest, etc, had something to do with it? Not in a bleeding heart world.

Ditto. All their favourite victims of “death squads” were peace abiding, normal citizens, that were targeted and snuffed.
Sorry, I don’t listen to bleeding heart fairy tales

... or (s)he ... is a co-conspirator who knew EXACTLY what the rubbish smelled of that was presented to him(er).

The PUBLIC now has a keen (legal) interest in knowing WHO this FISA Judge is ... and receive a full dissection of their life. Everything. You know ... like they unleash on American citizens ... everything. Phone records, emails, meetings ... everything ... a full flaying of their life ... QUICK ... before it’s all bleachBIT and pulverized into electronic scrap destined for China.

Which reminds me of how MY President can use this sordid breach of our Democracy to clean the swamp. Simply start assigning “rank and file” FBI and DOJ Agents to dissect and investigate all the Leftist Deep State Actors in this massive government conspiracy. And any Agent who refuses, or slow-walks, or does a lackluster job in SPYing on their Leftist cohorts will be identified and relieved of their lucrative government job ... for cause (and suspicion of Deep statist ILLEGAL conduct). It’s time to RESTORE the Constitution as the Law of our Land. The creeping Marxism has to be fully eradicated from our government.

"Criminals earning their final payday. Play with fire, you get burned.

"Those 100 killed are bad actors, and bleeding hearts snivel about them. Maybe carrying a weapon, threatening an officer with it, disobeying a direct command, several times, to drop the weapon, resisting arrest, etc, had something to do with it?"

Justine Damond?

When Steele began this charade in dealing 'information' to the Democrats he thought he was dealing with professionals. As a former member of MI-6 you would think that he would be a good judge of character, someone with more than a few smarts. You'd also like to think that the upper echelon of the FBI and the DOJ were very smart people, hopefully at least in the upper ten percentile. The release of the memo and the Steele trial in Britain have just exposed to the general public at large that our supposed 'intelligence' communities in the West are staffed with high school sophomores and morons. That being said who is staffing the main stream media?

Huh?! Something you and I agree on ... that the oft-repeated 11 million ILLEGAL squatters in America is a rubbish number ... unchanged from the nonsensical 2011 estimate. Yes, 20 million is MUCH CLOSER to reality.

Kenji

Is it expected, at this point, that the Deep State operators will apply the law equally?

That’s a laugh..........they are in full a$$ covering mode and retreating to the shadows. Notice that NONE of the bad actors have come out of hiding, to proclaim that they are innocent, that they’ve done nothing wrong, etc.

The Ohrs, Steele, Yates, Strzok, his muse, etc. Nothing but crickets. Not even the Mass Media is propping up the bad actors to speak up as “patriots and heroes”. This is where we know the meme from the MSM is garbage. Their alleged heroes are conspirators and criminals. Where’s Jeff Sessions?

Snivel snivel

Cute - you move from 100 being a bad number to just one after that tactic gets destroyed. Obviously some killed by cops are wrong/slash unjustified/negligent/homicides. No one is disputing that.

Admit you were wrong and move on.

rizwan.......John Peat da chew????

Police do not have powers to execute unarmed Americans.

I am not going to list down a 100.

"I really cannot believe that there isn't anyone in the mass media with a shred of integrity."

You and Concerned say it well. The media in North America has with few exceptions become part and parcel as propaganda arms of the left and radical left political parties much like Pravda, Izvestia were to the Communist party of the Soviet Union. Obama brought the civilian security and judicial services and the IRS under the Democrat Party umbrella. Obama even mused publicly about being forced to return under emergency and finish the job if Hillary for some reason could not.

The top echelon levels of the FBI, DOJ, and IRS need to be replaced and safeguards put into place so that no party can initiate a coup by filling all the executive slots with their people.

It is so rotten at the top of these organs that a wholesale housecleaning is in order.

As an aside, Robert Conquest says in The Great Terror that the "Party" still referred to itself in private correspondence as Bolshevik.

Just heard the CTV reporting this as an investigation "mishandled"
Mishandled?
Try purposely mislead.

Nope. They don’t. However they DO have the right to

#1 protect themselves,
#2 protect the public

And there is not really anything as being “unarmed”. Ex. The “hands up” dude who attacked, and beat a police officer half his size and wrestled for the officers gun. You see, intelligent people take ALL statistics with a grain of salt ... because statistics divorced from their full context are meaningless “mathematical” drivel.

Hillary's liver will be taking a beating.

rizzy, maybe a fool like you should give us a definition execute. As I recall, about 50 years ago, one falla was pissed off that the cops pulled him over, he nearly beat 2 cops to a pulp with his bare hands. I used to have cops as customers, also some friends who were cops, and the stories told.....


You and you lefty bullshit bleating is one of the problems that needs fixing, as ignorance of facts are a thin excuse for demonizing those who put their lives on the line to keep people safe.

Steyn piece is wonderful. Thanks. About the best explanation of the memo saga I have read.

Rizwan not only trying to move the goal posts, but change to a different sport.

A reminder, the FBI, and the DOJ report to the Administrative (President) branch of the USA Government. Not the Judicial branch, nor the Congressional branch. But that does not mean the FBI and DOJ get to game the systems to pick their next boss, the President, who is "elected by the people, for the people."

Absolutely TRUE story: I was on a Jury 20 years ago which was the prosecution of a career criminal (we could not know that till after the case was over) who was stopped by a Contra Costa County Sheriff ... chased him, and cornered him at the end of a residential cul-de-sac. The criminal bolted out of his trapped truck and bull-rushed the officer, who had just emerged from his police cruiser with gun unlatched and half drawn. The (meth-saturated) criminal WIPED OUT the officer pounding him to the asphalt, and got his gun. The officer grabbed and struggled for the gun, and managed to get his finger behind the trigger in the trigger guard ... seriously ... absolutely true. That was the ONLY thing that SAVED the officers life as they struggled for the gun being ground into his forehead. An elderly, BLACK military veteran who lived in the culdesac came to the officers rescue by beating the meth head in the skull with the officers nightstick that had fallen from its holster (it took about 6-swings ... as the officer kept shouting for him to swing for the fences).

After 4-days of testimony, the jury assembled and took an initial secret ballot vote. It was 11-1 Guilty of every charge, including attempted murder. The lone no vote? A 22yo BLACK girl who said she NEVER believed ANYTHING the PO-leece say ... because they’re always hasslin her cousin. Irony of all ironies, we finally all convince her ... the dude is sent to Prison for a lonnnnng time ... and we then learn from the (beautiful young woman DA) that the CRIMINAL was a meth-making, white supremicist. She asked if any of us recognized his jailhouse white supremicist tattoos? So this IDIOT young BLACK girl was defending a white supremicist CRIMINAL ... because the PO-leece are always baaaad mmmmKay. What a MORON.

Yes ... Jizwant ... this white supremicist “American Citizen” ... was “unarmed”

Keep an eye on Sharyl Attkisson's twitter feed and new pieces...something is happening. You will recall that her computer(s) were compromised by a government agency when she was reporting on Benghazi. Recently, she mentioned that that particular investigation is heating up again. Now she is borrowing the Sean Hannity schtick and going with the #TickTock thing. Only, with Sharyl it's not likely to just be hype.

Seen a report from Steve McIntyre and sent copy to Kate. Hopefully Kate will link it for you. It is a very good read. Everybody thinks that it is going to be a instant swamp draining had better hope for POTUS Trump for an 8 year term and whomever gets the next term had better hope for a very good swamp drainer. It is going to take years because this has been going on for a long time. My estimate is since after the WW11 it started and every year the it excelled. Another commented that rot is big. The US is the center of attention but hopefully this effects all democratic countries because it is worldwide. I have been logging on this site for many years and it has exposed, supplied links, allowed commenters to speak, supply links and discuss points on agreement and disagreement. I think that the people have seen the media put crap out there for so long, they are now like us whom have been on the blog sites and are finally opening there eyes and brains to actually see what is around them instead of a 5 minute news lie or a 2 line capital letter headline.

Seen a report from Steve McIntyre and sent copy to Kate. Hopefully Kate will link it for you. It is a very good read. Everybody thinks that it is going to be a instant swamp draining had better hope for POTUS Trump for an 8 year term and whomever gets the next term had better hope for a very good swamp drainer. It is going to take years because this has been going on for a long time. My estimate is since after the WW11 it started and every year the it excelled. Another commented that rot is big. The US is the center of attention but hopefully this effects all democratic countries because it is worldwide. I have been logging on this site for many years and it has exposed, supplied links, allowed commenters to speak, supply links and discuss points on agreement and disagreement. I think that the people have seen the media put crap out there for so long, they are now like us whom have been on the blog sites and are finally opening there eyes and brains to actually see what is around them instead of a 5 minute news lie or a 2 line capital letter headline.

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