But now the news is out: The DNC/MSM Gang illegally spied on Trump. They didn't use a bunch of burglars at the Watergate. They used the courts and they succeeded. They actually used a Russian or Russian friendly ex-spy, gossip, and bought paid for lies to violate the election laws and the civil rights of Americans.
Still, the media tries to make light of it.
Can you in your wildest dreams imagine if the GOP had done that to Mrs. Clinton? Can you imagine the blood in the eyes of the media pooh-bahs if they found the GOP doing exactly what HRC and the media did?
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Presstitutes are running true to form.
Their defence of the indefensible is amusing.
The old;"Lying by omission " shlick is no longer working.
Must shut down/control internet.
Much is revealed by the media here.
They are so lazy and stupid they all use the same words,same inflection and identical dismissive talking points.
You would think they could change up the talking points,use different words to sell the same package, these are mostly English majors after all.
President Trump lives rent free in their heads, the willingness to lie to persuade other people of the "rightness" of ones cause is most revealing.
What is revealed of a persons nature,when they believe themselves unstoppable , is most interesting.
The North American Establishment Media has no credibility.
Citizens now tune them in for entertainment.
Viewership/readership is falling away, profit eludes their owners...hermoraging red ink.
In Canada the media sucks up to their only hope of continuance, Government money, so those most likely to reward their fawning flattery are tongue bathed to death.
No president has ever had the type of treatment from the press Donald Trump has endured. To only a slightly less degree , the same thing was done to Stephen Harper. It appears to be the new normal. Meanwhile criminal acts from their progressive Demi- gods warrant barely a wimpier.
The key to this is finding out who the FISA judge is and who and when (s)he was appointed and who appointed said judge. My suspicions are that the judge was a hand picked plant by Obama and this whole thing is an attempt by Obama to secure his 'legacy' against someone like Trump who was and is hellbent on destroying Obama's 'legacy'.
geezus joe, all that is known already. He's the same judge who tool Flynn's guilty plea and then recused him self. Appointed by obongo
Mueller? Mueller?
"No president has ever had the type of treatment from the press Donald Trump has endured."
In his day, Nixon put up with similar vilification by the media even before Watergate, mostly based on one-sided hippie-dippie anti-Vietnam coverage.
Never mind that Nixon inherited the war from JFK and LBJ i.e., the Democrats.
Let us see now.
Hmm, Cultural Revolution, hmm.
Little bit by little bit, homosexual marriage (whatever), little bit by little bit.
Little bit by little bit, you are racist, not because you are, because they* say so, little bit by little bit.
Little bit by little bit, you are ‘phobe of all kinds, take yer pick, not because you are, because they* say so, little bit by little bit.
Little bit by little bit, media propaganda would make Goebbels proud, he would blush that he has not come up with the propaganda of today, little bit by little bit.
Little bit by little bit, illegal emigration is everything else but illegal except perhaps if you are a Caucasian, little bit by little bit.
Little bit by little bit, if you say something, if you say nothing, you are in support of some bad guys, if you don’t know that’s not a valid reason, they* know and you don’t, little bit by little bit.
Little bit by little bit, freedom of thought is absolute natural right, not if they* say no, little bit by little bit.
Little bit by little bit, freedom of speech is natural right of every single person as is argument, not if they* say no, little bit by little bit.
……and so on and so on…..
*One suspects they* would be the rich, like Pelosi, super rich like Soros, and other rich and super rich socialist aristocrats, the bought and paid for mass media and of course the “entertainers”, they* would like to rule the world not unlike Nazis and Communists.
It’s going that way, if the rest of people will stop it remains to be seen.
This is what secret courts get you. No oversight and accountability, except by politicians with agendas. Why is the evidence including the FISA application used to go after Carter Page still classified. It is obvious to me that these secret courts are used to trample over civil liberties, and that is the real reason the most obvious questions are not even being asked.
My sentiments exactly. Interesting that you draw the parallel between treatment of Trump and treatment of Harper. It still sickens me when I think about the nastiness of the media and the left in their response to Harper. He was not perfect, but he was very, very, very good. The result of the media onslaught is that we have had a very capable PM who put Canada first replaced by the globalist puppet. Canada will pay a price for this in the long term. The way things are going, I feel that Canada will not be recognizable once Trudeau is finished.
I do hope that Trump is successful in exposing this shameful corruption on the left and profound dishonesty in the media. Perhaps that would also awaken people in Canada.
The MSM forgets that the failure to prevent Russia from interfering in the US Election was the incompetence of OBAMA...Comey, Brennan Etc. They failed America..Democrats had the WH & executive responsibility....
The only logical reason to blame Trump may exist in the (Deep) State Dept....They don't want Putin to get any positive credence with the Russian people by cooperating with the Trump Admin....The Steele Russian informers form the Putin resistance, and they don't want cooperation
Q). What financial reason did Steele have for Hating Trump?...We have 8 Trillion missing in the ME & the CIA has some Knowledge
Democrats & SOME deep state Republicans (McCain & Graham) want Putin gone...We may be interfering in Russia
I wouldn't count on it. I link the following only to show you the way our Canadian media uses selective details to cover a story. The memo in question was written by the House Permanent Select Committee on Intelligence not the gop.
The GOP has a majority on the committee because they have a majority in the House.
The article glazes over the fact that the FBI spied on a private citizen and violated his constitutional rights; a citizen who also happened to be running for president of the USA:
http://nationalpost.com/news/world/not-all-details-in-gop-memo-help-undercut-mueller-probe
"Mueller? Mueller? "
You win the internet today.
Ha! I get it.
Can you imagine the blood in the eyes of the media is someone in the GOP said "binders full of women", or his foot touched someone else's in a washroom?
Abandon the GOP. It has been a lost cause for 100 years. Abandon the party system entirely; in economic terms, a political party is what you call a "barrier to entry".
Writing name on ballot spoils it? BARRIER TO ENTRY.
Fee to register your campaign/get name on ballot? BARRIER TO ENTRY.
Special perks for "party status"? Well, that is just graft and racketeering. Got to protect the monopoly somehow.
And when you think about it, why exactly would someone want to design rules that raised barriers to other people entering the political sphere?
Can't even do politics without your own pet network these days.
Now that's clever. Now what we need is a Mueller day off, or perhaps many.
I understand judge in Flynn's plea bargain is one of the FISA judges in question.
Their conduct needs examining, which can only happen if the underlying supporting documents to the warrant are made public.
Oh that will be a threat to national security and the integrity of the FBI/DOJ. Unless of course in the case of a fraud on the Courts.
Having said that, apparently the FISC has already delivered a stinging rebuke to the Obamastatists.
The DOJ IG report, is due soon; will that be seen as attacking the justice system?
Among the casualties are rank and file FBI/DOJ types; how ironic the Dems defend them as justification for their illegal acts?
I did see a report from an "anonymous" source the FBI will now make Trump regret calling them on their jackboot tactics.
Isn't that like the Palestinians saying now they're going to make the Israelis regret defending themselves?
How ironic, Dems flaunt the law, break it, see themselves as above it, slime others on non-evidence, then run to the barricades of due process, presumption of innocence and benefit of the doubt. Only trustworthy people get the benefit of the doubt.
English majors indeed: where dossiers are "full of omissions." Never mind the obvious fallacy.
Then again, when were statists the least concerned about optics, hypocrisy and double standards that didn't benefit them?
The Fourth Estate is now the Fifth Column, where the media do the bidding of a particular party, like the Gritmedia here.
Statism/progressivism is Marxism at a lower temperature. Eventually their transactions of decline lead to authoritarianism and eventually totalitarianism. The velocity of liberty destruction is the only variable.
Being Marxists, progressives see their party and the state as one, where favours and safety are doled out on that criterion.
"Can you in your wildest dreams imagine..."
That question is no longer valid. The press in the USA and Canada have revealed their true nature, bought and paid for shills of the political Left. They are not even trying to pretend, and haven't been since 2008.
At what point do we finally admit they are allied with one side, and truth has no place in their mouths?
In 1930, the Republican-controlled House of Representatives, in an effort to alleviate the effects of the... Anyone? Anyone? ...the Great Depression, passed the... Anyone? Anyone? The tariff bill? The Hawley-Smoot Tariff Act? Which, anyone? Raised or lowered? ...raised tariffs, in an effort to collect more revenue for the federal government. Did it work? Anyone? Anyone know the effects? It did not work, and the United States sank deeper into the Great Depression. Today we have a similar debate over this. Anyone know what this is? Class? Anyone? Anyone? Anyone seen this before? The Laffer Curve. Anyone know what this says? It says that at this point on the revenue curve, you will get exactly the same amount of revenue as at this point. This is very controversial. Does anyone know what Vice President Bush called this in 1980? Anyone? Something-d-o-o economics. 'Voodoo' economics.
As pointedly humorous as your simple post is ... Ben Stein is no fan of Trump’s (apparent) Tariff trade policies. I would dare say that Stein HATES Trump’s (again, apparent) protectionism. Stein is a Globalist. As expressed by the Ferris Bueller dialogue that Stein OBVIOUSLY wrote for the movie.
Yet even a man who despises one of the central planks of Trump’s Presidency ... FAIR Trade ... cannot sanction the despicable acts of the Marxist-Demoncrats. To quote Ben Stein in this article.
The Left takes care of its own. The Right has a conscience. Big difference.
Well expressed, Lev ... yet I take issue with your shrug toward Gay marriage ...
Little bit by little bit, homosexual marriage (whatever), little bit by little bit.
I contend that 99% of the Russian narrative arises from Putin’s anti-homosexual governance. The militant Gay lobby as aided by their heterophobes in the mairstream anti-Trump media selected Russia as a target to bring down Christian America’s Candidate, Donald Trump. SHE is a well known lesbian (when WAS the last time she “touched” her “husband”? touched Huma?) who most-likely spent her years as Sec. of State chastising Putin’s “human rights” violations for failing to kneel before “the gays”. Putin’s anti-gay policies are not just an incidental part of this whole sordid abuse of our Constitution ... it is central to it.
"Now this is not the end. It is not even the beginning of the end. but it is, perhaps, the end of the beginning"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pdRH5wzCQQw
There will be more memos. Perhaps a Special Counsel. Hopefully trials that are still ongoing in 2020 and well into President Trump's second term. The Republicans are expected to pick up seats in the Senate, and if they handle this right, a resounding victory in the House this November as well.
Hillary lied to the FBI, the FBI lied to the public, none of this happened without B. Hussien's knowledge and approval.
How the media can cover this, report it all as "a nothing burger" and not face the backlash of people tuning out, is beyond me.
How the media can cover this, report it all as "a nothing burger" and not face the backlash of people tuning out, is beyond me.
Easy. It has an attitude similar to George Takei's:
https://tinyurl.com/yc5u34hg
Kenji
The homosexual marriage is not the point, just another point along the way for the inter national socialist to impose by pure force of massive media propaganda of compliance with the program.
It would be interesting to know how many think that the above idea is just a conspiracy theory as opposed to actual fact.
As for Putin, never had a problem with him even when most here do. There are very few an no facts in the propaganda against Putin at least nobody can come up with any other than he is a bad, bad guy, trust me, they say.
Watched some forums and interviews on you tube by European media, on balance, he hammered them.
Of course I don’t know much more than your man of the street on the goings on since the media obfuscate, omits, will play to the out and other way “report”. On one part it can be said that they don’t know dick, as the saying goes, they just pass it from one to the other and each embellishes it with their favored theology and it ends up as “the truth” because they say so.
I do have must mention that I don’t know nothing, this is what I think.
Of course I had to edit the last sentence without reading it and screwed it up.
Should read:
"I do have mention that I don’t know nothing, this is what I think."
Whatever.
Is there no end to it?
Lev -
My opinion can never be “proven” ... but it fits a pattern of behaviour ... the same pattern you began to compile. And let me modify my 99% gayyyyy estimate for room to include the other sins of Putin and the Russians ...
- Putin combats radical Islam with VIGOR ... and from my perspective is on the RIGHT side in Syria (of two poor choices). This makes him baaaad mmmmkay?
- Putin is a strident Nationalist ... making him a “horrible” person.
- Putin is white ... yet the MOrons on the racist Left have no idea about the racial diversity of Russia. They choose to see it as a “white” country.
- Trump has/had some banking/investor relationships with Russia (nevermind HER massive $$ investments from Saudi sheiks). The Trump/Russian moneylaundering meme is active among unhinged leftists.
- Putin has closed Russia’s borders to Muslim refugees as tightly as Poland’s sphincter
- Putin is OIL and GAS rich ... and has no time for Global Warming ... making him “denier”.
- Putin holds sway over much of the EU’s energy supply ... and he is reviled for using it as a bargaining chip against the most horrible of EU policies.
- Putin took de facto control over Crimea and Ukraine ... laying to waste every 40minute long Speech Obama gave on the topic.
Yeah ... there are a MYRIAD of reasons Putin/Russia were selected as the boogeyman-conspirator to “hack” our election and defeat HER. All the REAL nasty world leaders in RED China, Iran, Venezuela, Zimbabwe, Cooba, and Brazil ... were on HER side ... so they couldn’t be used.
But the fact that baking a Gay-themed cake in Russia can get you fined and thrown in jail ... gets the Gay cabal’s floppy sphincters tightened tighter than a 13yo aspiring Hollywood Actor’s. So their visceral HATE for American Christians (who supported Trump) is nearly matched by their anger over Putin’s anti gay “crusade”
... in my opinion/observation.
Trump didn't give Putin a reset button as Hillary did.
Trump didn't tell the Russian foreign minister he would have more flexibility after the election is over as Obama did.
Trump didn't say Putin was behind the Nunes memo, which detailed a fraud on the courts, as circle logic for calling Trump a Russian collaborator, as a Dem defense essentially, as Pelosi et al did.
Trump doesn't have to pile lies upon lies as the DeMarxists did, whereby the lying media has to back them up or look like total idiots, (they are but that's an aside), as undeniable evidence of DeMarxist dirty tricks begins to see the light of day.
Yeah ... and didn’t her “reset” button translate more accurately into Russian as “menopause” or something ?
At least ONE gender studies graduates on HER payroll was looking for new work after that one ...
As I said many months ago, democrats studied Watergate and what mistakes were made by Nixon and Republicans, then came up with what they thought was a fool-proof plan to do worse than Watergate ( to destroy Trump and make sure Hillary/democrats would win ) but not get caught - as Nixon was - because most of it would be or would seem legal...or should I say ; legal-ish...
But of course there is NO TRUTH to the rumor that SHE was fired from the Watergate Commission ...
In neither of his books does Zeifman say he fired Clinton. But in 2008, a reporter named Dan Calabrese wrote an article that claimed that “when the investigation was over, Zeifman fired Hillary from the committee staff and refused to give her a letter of recommendation.” The article quoted Zeifman as saying: “She was a liar. She was an unethical, dishonest lawyer. She conspired to violate the Constitution, the rules of the House, the rules of the committee and the rules of confidentiality.”…
In 1999, nine years before the Calabrese interview, Zeifman told the Scripps-Howard news agency: “If I had the power to fire her, I would have fired her.” In a 2008 interview on “The Neal Boortz Show,” Zeifman was asked directly whether he fired her. His answer: “Well, let me put it this way. I terminated her, along with some other staff members who were — we no longer needed, and advised her that I would not — could not recommend her for any further positions.”
This is what passes for DENYING that SHE was never FIRED from the Watergate Commission. However it DOES appear as though SHE was already practiced at being an: unethical, dishonest, liar, conspirator, who sought to shite-upon our Constitution.
Well said, every time. I would like to buy you a beer. This time the Marxification is much slower than that implemented by the Bolsheviks in 1917 and by Hitler in 1933, by heating degrees so to speak. The Frankfurt School has done its work well.
Off topic but particularly, "On one part it can be said that they don’t know dick, as the saying goes, they just pass it from one to the other and each embellishes it with their favored theology and it ends up as “the truth” because they say so." Kind of like the media support for AGW/Climate Change fraud.
Of course, all that was hushed up while she was FLOTUS, as was the fact that she was an Alinskyite.
It was only in recent years that all of this came out of the woodwork.
I might add that the anger, hatred and vitriol by the media, by the Democratic leadership, and by the presence of Hillary still campaigning, as well as Obama putting his two cents in a few times all stems from the fact that they all thought Hillary's victory was a sure thing and that she would finish the job of transforming America would continue as planned.
"The DNC/MSM Gang illegally spied on Trump."
That is not clear from the memo, which still doesn't mean anything so long as we don't have the FISA warrant and supporting docs.
They were monitoring Page well before the Trump campaign even existed.
https://www.cato.org/blog/fisa-follies-nunes-memo-edition
I see your point.
Did the bogus Carter Page as a Russian agent accusation have its genesis in the dossier or some earlier fabrication?
What is not clear from your meanderings is why that would make the slightest difference at all.
If they had begun their fake Carter Page investigation earlier than the dossier, that exonerates the DeMarxists?
You want to go with that eh?
Hey enjoy your free speech; I hope you have good stamina.
Just make sure you keep that finger in the dike, there's a tsunami on the way.
And after 6 years of monitoring Page and lying about TRUMP they still have nothing on him.
https://www.steynonline.com/8431/un-candid-in-camera
The Page investigation was not fake at all, and it started in 2013.
Again: the memo is just a partisan write up without the FISA application and supporting document. No surprise Mark Steyn can't or won't grok the difference.
Exactly!! When does an errant investigation CEASE? When does a political persecution become too embarrassing to continue?
Why is Page STILL under investigation? Being SPIED on ?
Stop it. Shut it down ! Shit or get off the pot.
And WHY isn’t the FISA Court making the CONTINUING surveillance of Page increasingly more difficult to allow ... with each fruitless round of time extension? I call on the FBI to ... LEAK ... all the information they’ve collected on Page. Why not? They LEAK everything else? Let us know why this surveillance has gone on so long?
unthing, and as usual, you have no fvcking clue as to what you verbaly wanking off about. If you knew what the Page FISA application actually was you would be saying such stupid things....wait, yes you would, that's your MO.
It was a type one app. Nuff said. And then there is the timing, if Page was under suspicion, why wait till he was working with Trump. It was because they used Page to monitor Trump and every one around him, that's what a type one is. You nothing but a goddamn idiot
"if Page was under suspicion, why wait till he was working with Trump. "
They didn't. He was under investigation from 2013. Read the article I linked to.
Thanks Ken I appreciate a many of your comments even if I don't say so, Read them all.
Unfortunately many do not believe those that experienced the warm and fuzzy of the socialists/fascists on their own skin, what we are saying.
Nonetheless, it be as it may.
Waking up the Canadian voter? You have to be kidding, the average voter in central Canada { IE: Ontario and Quebec } are politically the equivalant of moronic CBC indoctrination victims. The Maritimes will always vote for who ever promises them the most benefits/money. That leaves the West out in the cold as usual.
It has moved well beyond the media being simply a shrill for the Liberals or the DNC. Well past being their lackeys and sycophants. They are the reason democracy is perverted. They are the enemy. No mercy. No quarter.
More non sequitur garbage from you.
"There was never any doubt that FBI agents were investigating long before they went to the FISA Court in October 2016. The Bureau’s opening of a Papadopoulos investigation on paper does not necessarily mean agents were acting on it meaningfully (there seems to have been no Papadopoulos FISA warrant, he was not interviewed until late January 2017, and he only pops up in the Nunes memo in connection with a FISA warrant application for Page). But no matter: We know the FBI was investigating Page in July — when he went to Russia and the Bureau started getting Steele’s reports."
The next part is for Un-Yun and the rest of the obfuscators:
"Nevertheless, how long the agents were investigating before applying for a FISA warrant has nothing to do with what they put in the warrant application. They could have been investigating Trump and Page for a hundred years before approaching the FISA court; warrants are issued based on the quality of the information proffered to the court, not the duration of the information-gathering process."
http://www.nationalreview.com/article/456093/jerrold-nadler-memo-rebuttal-weak-unpersuasive