"Shut up, mate"

So you are saying, I should risk life and limb, to protect people who will not protect themselves, refuse to learn anything, and are unable to think or act rationally? You can do that if you want. I will wait till islam finishes them all off. Then there may be a chance of building a worthwhile society with the people who managed to stay alive.

You are seriously saying that no one should go galt under any circumstance. I say, anyone who wants my respect or protection has to deserve it.

Please don't quote a small portion of a sentence I wrote without clearly pointing out that is exactly what you did. Your editing made it no longer contextual and totally misrepresented my point. I made NO COMMENT about Muslims actually being political conservatives. I was simply commenting on the abstract hatred leftards have for anything conservative and suggested how nice if we could redirect some of that enthusiastic leftist vitriol at Islam, where it is deserved.

Are you deliberately misrepresenting my point, or did you simply not get it?

"So you are saying, I should risk life and limb, to protect people who will not protect themselves,"

Yes and you should not be alone at it. There were always sheep and sheepdogs. I'd rather be the later. I prefer to die on me feet than on my knees begging some subhuman koranimal for mercy. And I would not be able to live myself if I let someone be cut to pieces in front of my eyes and did not act to prevent it. I'd back that cop and that bartender up to the best of my abilities. Maybe I fail, maybe I choke and $hit myself or maybe I'd react instinctively as I reacted in the past. I do not pretend to be some tough guy but I will not be hiding under the tables as default. Besides, if a knife waving subhuman came into our local watering hole he would have been subdued and badly injured long before someone would bother to call the cops.

"Are you deliberately misrepresenting my point, or did you simply not get it?"

You wrote something?

"If you attack the ' knife wielding ---' you would be arrested by the police and excoriated by the MSM."

Oh yes, this is why a whole bar full of men are hiding under tables. They know damn well if they stand up, they'll be spending the night in jail.

Of course, the jihadinis will be emboldened by this, and up the ante. At some point pretty soon, going to jail for beating the sauce out of some jihadini-weenie will be a badge of honor.

... and if you don't someone else will die an ugly bloody death right in front of your eyes, and if you're lucky the attacker will be dead before he turns on you. If you're lucky all you got to live with for the rest of your life is the image of someone being slaughtered their eyes begging for your help.

hey Colon, I figure if you run at the mouth like you bullshit in here, you could talk them to death!!!

Hey Enema, if only I could ... I would invite you for a chat.

I prefer Brick Top's method: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2xUynRdzzsM

But in cases like this, I wouldn't give the pigs the heads. Those should be displayed on pikes on London Bridge.

The problem is you are protecting people from the consequences of their own stupidity. The net effect of this is to increase the population of fools. So you will be ensuring the idiocy continues by keeping as many of them alive as possible, while rational sane people self select for death.

That is a failing strategy.

Darwin can be harsh, very harsh.

But the left seems to love Darwin as god, so maybe they need to come to terms with precisely what that means.

Ahh, who am I kidding - the stick big enough to wake them up is so big that it will also kill them.

THAT IS THE POINT. Socialists need to die, in incredibly great numbers, hoist on their own petards. If Iran got a nuke into the USA or Canada, and blew up 5 or 6 of Hillary's enclaves (or Toronto or Vancouver) of voters; just think how much better off the world would be. And that is the key point; ALL THE PROGRESSIVES LIVE WHERE THE BOMBS, AND STABBINGS, AND ANGRY TRUCKING IS GOING TO HAPPEN. So they inevitably will suffer, AND WE HAVE TO LET THAT HAPPEN. The suffering has to be great enough that there is a greater than zero% chance of them learning that they have killed themselves.

ISIS is not going to target Herschel SK, or Uranium City, or Hardin Montana. ISIS is not going to bomb the Bay section of township 20, range 4 west of the 3rd. They are going to go straight for Los Angeles, New York, London, Toronto... The cities that vote Liberal/Democrat/Chavez/Mao/Wynne/Pol Pot/Idi Amin/Notely... They either do not know, or do not care that they have sowed the seeds of their own destruction. Either they will learn, or they will be destroyed. Either way the rest of us are better off.

It really makes me wonder, how far gone was Ambassador Stevens? I wonder if he was saying "it's not muslims" to himself when they were killing him? Yes, I believe the cult think is that strong. Strong enough that the majority will deny reality as it separates their head from their body. Strong enough that most of them would choose Jonestown over sanity.

this is the REAL problem of umm, 'self directed' defense methods.

you leave yourself wide open to the logic of the MSM and truth manglers. you can and probably will face some sort of criminal charge for 'taking the bull by the horns'. that is the exclusive domain of the 'authorities'.

what's changed since I wuz a teenager is that the 'authorities' are steeped in political correctness and ANY response they provide now will be so blunted and misdirected to be useless. whilst the sheeple applaud and applaud and go on with their nimbynimby mantra.

Sadly ... I agree with you. When I see these stories, I weep for the LOSS of our civilization. The dead Euro voters (London overwhelmingly voted to STAY ) ... yeah ... OK ... yeah, yeah ... them too

Nah ... Ambassador Stevens was heard mumbling ...
"... but I was your FRIEND ..." ...
"... but SHE and I liberated you from that tyrant, Ghadaffi ..." ...
"... but I, I, I, I, was one of the Architects of THE ARAB SPRING..."

I understand your point. I disagree that that it is good time to go Galt when SHTF directly in front of you. I don't go to bars alone so chances are that there is at least more person in that bar worth protecting. Chances are that there are tourists who had nothing to do with electing the current major caught in the middle of it. Certainty is that there were a handful of brave people trying to fight them off. There was cop who rushed them with nothing but a nightstick there was a bartender who threw bottles at them. I am certain there were others. They are worth risking your hide for because they do the same for you.

Think of flight 93 when a group of passengers armed only with cups of boiling water given to them by a quick thinking stewardess rushed the 757 cockpit? Should they went Galt? In all likelihood their sacrifice saved hundreds if not thousands of lives. On a day when every government agency failed miserably average people did not fail. Not everyone is a libtard hiding under a table needing a lesson in natural selection.

"There was cop who rushed them with nothing but a nightstick"

and that should be enough to do the job, except if the cop was/is a fool like you

I know guys that could disarm all three of those fools, bare handed, and not break a sweat. Unarmed cops should be well trained, these don't appear to be.

Sure in the Super Delta SAS Mall Ninja Tactical Police Academy for real operators only that your friends went to, they teach them how to be one with a nightstick, they take out bears barehanded before breakfast.

This is a low res picture of Jim Jones with President Carter's wife:https://spickardontheprophecies.files.wordpress.com/2015/08/carter-with-jones-2.jpg. I have seen a high res version before. Jim Jones had allies throughout the Cal. Democratic elite. Immediately after the tragedy, reporters found that Jones' public indecency conviction, which would have precluded his church taking hundreds of foster children with government funding to Guyana, had been sealed. A week later the record of the sealing had disappeared. Naipaul, Shiva. Black and White. New York: Simon and Schuster, 1981. Published later as Journey to Nowhere: A New World Tragedy. New York: Penguin, 1982, gives more detail.