We Don't Need No Flaming Sparky Cars

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@markbspiegel - You know what's most astounding about these $TSLA safety claims? ... 10,000 EMPLOYEES TO MAKE 100,000 CARS/YEAR! LOL!!!


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"Ford is the only other U.S. car company to have never gone bankrupt. We are attempting to break this trend..."
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They've never made a profit, they lose hundreds of millions every year and this is a recipe for not going bankrupt???

Oh, silly me. I forgot about the hundreds of millions of taxpayer cash the government hands over to them every year. Yep, that is indeed a recipe for success, you couldn't go bankrupt that way if you tried.

Most car manufacturers figure 20 labour hours or less on assembly per vehicle and about that much on the sub-assembly.

Why the surprise ? This is how a Socialist automobile Company operates ... MASSIVE government "investment" in Tesla allows them to utilize the MAXIMUM number of workers per vehicle. Das größte Kapital erfolgreicher Unternehmen sind kompetente ! Karl Marx would be so proud.

BTW ... ya wanna see a hockey stick ? It is the downward slope of Tesla sales after they have saturated the Upper + Upper Middle Class Eco-virtue-signaling automobile buyer. And after the REAL WORLD experience of driving a Tesla settles in. Can you say DeLorean ? Sure, I knew you could.

If it wasn't for DeLoreans, do you think time travel would be possible? (OK, so you need a flux capacitor as well....)

Wonder if the 10k employee count includes those tasked with processing the pixie dust and unicorn farts which
are used to generate the organic non polluting electricity used to recharge each wonder car's battery system.

How many employees would ford have if you included the people who worked for the thousands of dealerships and parts suppliers worldwide?

I am no fan of tesla - I think musk is a carpetbagger Flim foam salesman - but the stat cited is very misleading.

hey gord..
those dealership employees are after the cars have been sold...to the dealers..
why not count the final customers as employees too??

Tesla is not an automobile company, the company exists to sell Panasonic laptop batteries, it does not make the batteries they are entirely Panasonics products built in Tesla factories. The cars and home power packs are just the sales vessel. It more resembles Ponzi scheme, taking deposits on vehicles that are not even designed, and putting that deposit money into general accounts, Ponzi would be proud, Berne Madoff was a piker compared to Elon.

I am sure the number does not include the Chinese required to mine the lithum either.

And teslas sales force to retail is entirely within the company - worldwide. Unless you want to work back all of the Margin made on parts etc. Oh and many cars are partly assembled to fully assembled by outside suppliers like Magna.

The cost of Teslas shares are misleading to the extreme, considering the poor financial condition of the company. Institutional investors are STILL betting on future profits, all these years later, yet Tesla still loses hundreds of millions per year. The Teflon must by impervious on Tesla, as it looks like not even Trump wants to touch those subsidies, lest it be twisted into "Trump picks on private company success".
Teslas biggest threat is the UAW, and cheap gasoline

It disagreeing with anything you have stated

In essence, at the moment and foreseeable past, Tesla's finances have been a house of cards, propped up by huge subsidies, a neato shiny kewl product, and a smooth talking flimflam artist in Musk himself. Many CEOs are the same profile as Musk himself.
And while the Tesla car certainly is an example of a relatively new twist on an old technology, the problems remain of vehicle cost and battery life. They have accomplished the problem of range, to a degree, as the Tesla's are typically far better than their competition's range, approx 400km vs 150km.
I want to be clear, the tech is interesting, but it has been built on a pile of massive subsidies, CEO bluff and bravado, and institutional investors propping up the company with ridiculous valuations.
Fanboys claim the new model will change everything, but, cost is still a factor. While I have no C$ figures, this new 'economic' model will be a $C 50k car........thats not exactly a grocery getter for Joe Sixpack, but I'm sure plenty of gubermints will file for their orders, money is no object, after all, trying to save Mother Gaia....government propping up Tesla......

Useless trivia: the reason Doc Brown used a DeLorean was that the stainless steel body panels were necessary to carry the static electrical charge that allowed the quantum field to form around the car.

Inevitably, there'll be a remake of Back to the Future. Among the associated abominations that are characteristic of such cinematic undertakings will be the replacement of the DeLorean by--ahem--a Tesla. Doc Brown will use that because of its low carbon footprint and it will be--wait for it--solar powered as, of course, nuclear power will be considered anathema.

Will someone arrange a long distance race between a Tesla whatever and long distance cyclist?

It's called "rent seeking". It's the same thing our renegade regulator does. If you can get a monopoly (like SaskPower) you don't even need to guarantee service to collect your rents.


Yes. My power did go out yesterday. Again. Not the first time this month. Where I work we run into contractual penalties if our systems go below 99.9% availability in a year. It can really start to add up at thousands per minute.

Don't worry about Tesla according to the lame stream media nobody will own cars in 2030 because it's future year.

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