That looks like about that for Christy Clark and the BC Liberals.
The Greens remind me of the former Saskatchewan Liberals, that ended well for them.
That looks like about that for Christy Clark and the BC Liberals.
The Greens remind me of the former Saskatchewan Liberals, that ended well for them.
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Actually, the Left Coast is going to hell in a hand basket if this lot get their way.
We are well and truly SCREWED!!!
The Left Coast already is. Too many months of rain and clouds has waterlogged the brains of the average voter here on the Left Coast. The best part is that both the Greens and the NDP want to stop the pipelines because of the imminent catastrophe of an oil tanker accident, but and here is the rub all these *ssholes that want to stop the pipelines all want to vacation down in Mexico, Cuba, Puerto Rico, the Bahamas or other exotic locales which means that they have to take an airplane. Also they want their strawberries, among other things, in December imported from Chile on you guessed it an airplane. Oh and we're getting rid of the much vaunted hydrogen highway and replacing it with the Tesla Road, for all the electric cars that are coming in vogue. Problem is that the Greenies don't want the Site C dam built so we'll be charging up the electric cars from solar panels while we sleep, that is how asinine the thinking is here on the Left Coast. There used to be a joke about Newfie brains being expensive to buy because they were so rare, well Left Coaster brains are now twice the price of Newfie brains and the price is going up all the time.
This is going to be incredibly nerve-wracking for Horgan.
I can't imagine that any BC Liberal will put their name forward for speaker. So every whipped vote will be a 43-43 tie with the speaker breaking the tie.
If even one MLA can't make it or abstains, the government's bill dies. And, for a no-confidence motion, if one member is missing from the house, there goes the government. If one member wavers or chooses his constituents over the party on an unpopular bill ...
And, if even one NDP or Green seat is lost in a bye-election, the government flips. There's no constitutional or legislative requirement that a new election be held. The Liberals could resume power with a no-confidence vote and a trip to the Lt. Governor (providing the Lt. Gov. agrees).
Suppose an NDP or Green member resigns. Then there's an NDP/Green minority government.
Instability city. But great political theatre.
Expect the NDP or Greens to try their hardest to get one or two Liberal MLAs to cross the floor. That's the only way this lasts very long at all.
This is likely the only way the BC Liberals can maintain any integrity. If they had formed a coalition government by selling out BC's economic future to the green priests instead of the slime-ball, dour-faced, union-brand, socialist NDP they would be no better. BC will now become a watermelon pariah as far as resource industries are concerned. Forget any new pipelines. If the BC Liberals were smart, they would now dump Christy and find a new leader as I suspect that a significant number of Green votes were a protest vote. The quicker the economy tanks, the better the chances of a return to the partial sanity of the least worse alternative.
Once a society cedes the education establishment to the left, this kind of decline is inevitable. We have now come full circle to a pantheistic variant (green) of socialist (neo-feudal) theocracy. Ain't it great!
The coming crash and burn is going to be epic!
Within four short years, this province will be teetering on economic collapse.
If I owned a house or property in the lower Fraser Valley/Vancouver, it would be listed by 5:00 PM tomorrow.
It's gonna get real ugly.
Remember Weaver, climate scientist extrodanaire who tried to sue the National Post for defamation and lost?
This is what BC got for a governing kingpin?
Let the pain begin. Tax the he'll out of anything that moves.
If they can kill Ontario and Alberta, BC will be a cinch.
This should move the dollar to .70 fairly quickly.
http://news.nationalpost.com/news/canada/t-writers-in-defamation-suit-by-prominent-climate-scientist-overturned
A blessing in disguise.
A weak center-leftish government with watermelon's holding the whip hand was not a pleasant prospect.
The compost needed turning anyway, and one can expect that the inevitable screwups which accompany the election of novice governors will shakeout a legislature that was drifting inexorably leftwards anyway.
There's nothing like a good hard dose of reality to bring folks to their senses, and a (now looming) crash of real estate 'spectaculation' in the lower mainland will likely be the first sign that socialists are actually subsidized capitalists when given the opportunity.
Did Green voters know they were voting for Horgan and the NDP? I guess it doesn't matter... Caught the NDP and Green leaders press conference, the Media were literally cheering for the non coallition coallition, surprise surprise. Let the punishment begin... should be fun.
"Democracy is the theory that the common people know what they want, and deserve to get it good and hard."
- H.L. Mencken
http://news.nationalpost.com/news/canada/ruling-against-national-post-writers-in-defamation-suit-by-prominent-climate-scientist-overturned
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The green party, dumber than rocks.
Please do not insult rocks, G.
The NDP has some good IDEAS about income equality and diversity quotas. The BC economy is strong and the suggestion of increasing the foreign buys tax to 30% will be good for the whole country because it will help the housing market in places like Flin Flon and Thunder Bay.
"Once a society cedes the education establishment to the left, this kind of decline is inevitable."
Once again John, you nailed it. Quebec and Manitoba have been gone a long time, the Maritimes have been welfare cases since almost confederation, Ontario is well on the way, and Alberta is sniffing Ontario's tracks. Now they will take BC down as fast as possible. Poor Saskatchewan will have to carry the welfare payments for pretty much the whole country.
The people eventually discover that unicorn breezers will not put food on the table.
JJM, Mencken had it right.
The people eventually discover that unicorn breezers will not put food on the table.
Oh, yes they will. The smart money will now be invested in unicorn ranches where the critters will be fed whatever will make them particularly gaseous. They'll produce enough that there will no longer be any need for pipelines.
And why not? With all the rain that Lotusland receives annually, there won't be much sunshine available, let alone rainbows.
This will be accompanied by an active futures market in pixie dust.
Of course, PETA will start whining about confining free-range unicorns and how ranches will destroy their natural habitat. The legal profession will derive abundant revenues from the inevitable lawsuits that will be filed and subsequently debated.
Those who voted for the Watermelon Party were forward thinkers.
Good post, with the hate that the Greens and NDP have for each other, it will get nasty. It's in the Greens interests to sabotage the NDP, while blaming everyone else. The NDP has to protects both flanks and not shed any voters on either side. Pleasing the Greens is going to hurt large projects that benefit union members, it's going to be no win for them and the voters were pissed at Christy and her party for getting to uppity, not that they are in love with the NDP.
Don't forget that the NDP's ridings are virtually all concentrated in the elitist heavens of Vancouver Island - government, university - and the Lower Mainland.
This election result could very well split BC into two factions with the elitists and leftists concentrated in the urban areas, much as what has happened in California and what happened in the 2016 Presidential election.
This is not going to be pretty for any of the parties.
That is the thing tho; once you've been mind slaughtered by communist thought, you never pay attention to reality again. How else do you explain, why people keep trying socialism/communism? It has a 100% failure rate, all times and places it's been tried. If reality had any effect on people, logic would indicate that everyone would have given up on it by now.
As I posted on another thread, Lotuslanders will vote for anyone or anything so long as it's socialist.
Similarly, the average Lotuslander couldn't care less of what happens outside of the local area. Electrical power, natural gas, and gasoline appear miraculously as if conjured out of thin air. Those commodities, of course, are essential so that he or she can go and protest against hydro dams or the oil industry, demanding that they are shut down and destroyed.
Then again, Lotusland has been disconnected from reality for decades.
The Notley Dictator Party (NDP) of Alberta is extremely happy – what could possibly go wrong now?
Now BC will adopt Alberta labor laws – creating more union positions; will give the teacher’s union power to indoctrinate the children with communists/ Climate Change/Global Warming slant – ultimate plan is to get rid of home schooling;
The bigger oil pipeline will not be built beside the present one – this will make the Notley Dictator Party (NDP) of Alberta, the LIEberals under tRUDEau and now BC Green/ NDP merger secretly happy – tRUDEau will go along with Alberta and BC goals – NO Pipelines – tRUDEau and LIEberals already stopped new routes of oil tankers along West Coast; The Liquid Natural Gas (LNG) project will not go ahead – while the USA has already made a major contract with China;
As stated above ... the housing bubble will break; and a major increase in the Carbon Tax to please the Green Party – which will be an increase in funds to build more “green power” projects; and only good thing that might happen: is that there will be a sewer treatment plant built in Vancouver instead of direct untreated pipeline into the ocean.
First Ontario, then Alberta and now BC will become a “have-not” province -Quebec has been one since they wanted to separate from rest of Canada – due to the “Green” energy projects. ... All through this, there will not be one union job lost – just like Alberta.
Only provinces left are Saskatchewan and now Manitoba, which should use the “notwithstanding clause.”
Next step, the Maritime Provinces, NWT, Yukon and Nunavut (ALL 100% LIEberal seats) – why should they NOT have tRUDEau Carbon Tax imposes as soon as possible so they can start to suffer. What’s the hold-up tRUDEau???
The Notley Dictator Party (NDP) of Alberta is extremely happy – what could possibly go wrong now?
Now BC will adopt Alberta labor laws – creating more union positions; will give the teacher’s union power to indoctrinate the children with communists/ Climate Change/Global Warming slant – ultimate plan is to get rid of home schooling;
The bigger oil pipeline will not be built beside the present one – this will make the Notley Dictator Party (NDP) of Alberta, the LIEberals under tRUDEau and now BC Green/ NDP merger secretly happy – tRUDEau will go along with Alberta and BC goals – NO Pipelines – tRUDEau and LIEberals already stopped new routes of oil tankers along West Coast; The Liquid Natural Gas (LNG) project will not go ahead – while the USA has already made a major contract with China;
As stated above ... the housing bubble will break; and a major increase in the Carbon Tax to please the Green Party – which will be an increase in funds to build more “green power” projects; and only good thing that might happen: is that there will be a sewer treatment plant built in Vancouver instead of direct untreated pipeline into the ocean.
First Ontario, then Alberta and now BC will become a “have-not” province -Quebec has been one since they wanted to separate from rest of Canada – due to the “Green” energy projects. ... All through this, there will not be one union job lost – just like Alberta.
Only provinces left are Saskatchewan and now Manitoba, which should use the “notwithstanding clause.”
Next step, the Maritime Provinces, NWT, Yukon and Nunavut (ALL 100% LIEberal seats) – why should they NOT have tRUDEau Carbon Tax imposes as soon as possible so they can start to suffer. What’s the hold-up tRUDEau???
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If we had PR, this backroom dealing would be going on everyday. Never again a gor=vernment or policy voted for by the people.
Let me translate that for you
It is the only one of the best-known brands of the test currently not what modern structure, functionality, precision and various flooring systems break wonderful goods
people working as hard as they can to emulate Venezuela.
When you vote for a left-of-centre party you are basically admitting that you don't scruple about bullying your neighbour. We are a wretched people.
The bullying we could take. The theft and confiscation of our property and the trashing of our economic prospects 'not so much'.
Clark should simply not resign. Meet the legislature and if defeated in the legislature, ask the Lieutenant Governor for new elections. She won the election - no need to back down. The Lieutenant Governor is a farm girl from the interior, recommended to the position by Harper. She likely hates Bolshiviks and despite an agreement the election results are inconclusive. Mackenzie King lost the 1926 election and refused to resign. It's a Liberal thing - and Clark actually won.
Christy won the election as the incumbent with the most seats of any party in the legislature. She doesn't have to go anywhere. She is still the premier of BC unless the Lt Governor says otherwise. The NDP and the Greens can rant and rave all they want, short of a non-confidence vote, the Liberals are the governing party.
So, true, B A Deplorable Sewer Rat.
In Vancouver yesterday I followed a little red (cheap, non-hybrid) Japanese car with three stickers on the bumper:
No tankers. No pipelines. No Cite C dam.
My hot head days are long, long gone but I did briefly imagine interviewing this genius at the next stop light.
As Kevin puts it, 'mind-slaughtered by communist thought' (sic). My sic.
Under Glenn Clark we had a top marginal rate of 54% at income of around $80,000 which, allowing for PST-GST, left about 41 spendable dollars. And Jimmy Pattison hired him!
"No tankers. No pipelines. No Cite C dam."
I was curious about the Site C Dam.
From Wiki - "According to David Suzuki, flooding valuable farmland to build the dam will undermine Canada's international commitments under the Paris Agreement."
More from Wiki - "Of the land to be flooded, there are 2,601 hectares (6,430 acres) of Class 2 ALR land within the project activity zone. Permanent losses are estimated at 541 ha (1,340 acres) of currently cultivated land and 1,183 ha (2,920 acres) of land under grazing licence or lease areas. In all, 2,775 ha (6,860 acres) of land will be removed from the ALR for the project."
A mega billion dollar project if using up 1,340 acres or 8 quarter sections of land - a small Saskatchewan farm - they really have nothing to whine about. Make that a small Saskatchewan farm or maybe the footprint of all of Suzuki's houses?
--The end of British Columbia is frequently cited for ALL of the present B.C. borders.
I am confident if the U.S.A. position during the Negotiations with the British governance--(54-Forty Or Fight) becomes the new Northern Border of British Columbia, The the U.S.A position of (54-Forty-Reversed) the many if not most People(s) North of (Fifty-Four Degrees Latitude) will be pleased to move to becoming Alaskan(s).
Who knows maybe even Albertans & Yukoners. North West Territories?
Worst news possible.Here come the green taxes and fees. Gas will be at least $1.50/liter by Summer.Park the RV's folks.
Weaver,a lifetime trough hog,believes the carbon tax should be raised until no one can afford to drive,he's also anti-everything business wise.
Now,I wonder if those promises they made to suck in some of B.C.'s poor will be implemented,or shoved to the back burner forever,as is the usual socialist way.
No fish farms, less logging, no pipelines, more social programs, no corporate donations, green energy, good luck BCzuela !!
The scariest thing about this coalition of the left is that they will change from first past the post to proportional representation without asking the population. It would ensure leftard governments in BC for decades.
"No tankers. No pipelines. No Cite C dam." When I see that kind of hypocrisy on a motor vehicle, I think of the capitalists selling the rope to their communist hangmen. No one should sell them gas. The reality of the greens is that they are all cowardly poseurs who advocate that we all submit to reduced prosperity but none of them could actually stand to live in the world they want the state to carve out for us. None of them have the courage to come to you face to face and while parking their motor vehicle in front of your house, advocate that you give up yours. They work instead through the political system unleashing statist thuggery under the leadership of soft soothing-voiced fascists like Andrew Weaver. Their world view would be one of pure fantasy instead of a reality of mass death and squalor and total environmental ambivalence (does the average Venezuelan today give a shit about global warming?). The average green supporter and this includes much of the intellectually superficial human ballast of the political centre and institutional left, has been pimped out by the hysteria merchants.
http://blog.press.princeton.edu/2016/07/21/the-three-species-of-democratic-citizens-according-to-jason-brennan/