Oh, Shiny Prime Minister!

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Nothing to worry about. If things get out of control, they can simply implement wage and price controls.


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Wage and price controls. That was an innovative idea that had an effect on Canada for decades. Perhaps the pony can reinstate it for his own historical footprint.

NEP
high inflation
wage and price controls
high interest rates to fight this
where have we seen this before?
oh yeah, that first bastard trudeau

Wait, wait, wait! Didn't he promise NOT to do that? Ohhhhh it was is FATHER?!

Well, nothing to see here, right?

From a political standpoint this is very good news - and part of more to come.

Forecasts for the American economy already are expecting 3-4% growth by the 1st quarter 2018. No way the cdn economy will keep pace. And us fed rate will rise perhaps 1 or more %.

Those two factors will see either the cdn dollar plummet or interest rates rise even higher than in the US.

Imagine five year mortgage rates north of six percent a year from now.

And it's impact on the GTA housing market.

And that will be the end of the LPC in 2019.

Since Juthtin's so anxious to follow in Daddy's footsteps, whatever the Americans do, particularly with regards to economic prosperity, he'll do the exact opposite. Canadians, after all, have to have, well, their own "identity".

I don't know Gord, Morontonians love Spud no matter what, remember 29% of Morontariowe STILL support the Lying corrupt Lieberals. They could be dragging babies behind trucks and still vote for the lying bstards

In 1974 there was double digit inflation, double digit interest rates, record unemployment. Pierre won a majority government that year.

The Canadian electorate are idiots. Juthtin won't be going anywhere anytime soon.

Canadian voters do not possess the common sense to kick Trudeau out of office at next election. All of the maritimes all of Toronto most of Ottawa and most of Quebec vote liberal and will continue to do so. That with the liberals love affair with muslims ensures the demise of the Canada we once knew.

If his policies result in the destruction of the Canadian economy, it will not be the fault of Justin Trudeau. He will have been a victim of a concerted action of wreckers, splitters, profiteers, anti-social elements and Jews. These are the same evil groups who ruined the workers' paradise in Venezuela and Cuba.

All of the maritimes all of Toronto most of Ottawa and most of Quebec vote liberal and will continue to do so.

And that's how PET kept winning. All he had to do was to throw those regions a few goodies and he was guaranteed to remain in office. Western Canada, by comparison, didn't have enough seats to worry about, so he obviously didn't care.

Wage and price?
Nay nay, wage only except for unions

Its not really inflation ... if it makes leftists RICH makes their eco-causes RICH. Shut up a pay your tributes to the eco-leftist overlords.

Inflation is only caused by running the federal money printing press, the price increases are a result not a cause

Baby boomers will fuel inflation again, but now as their productivity lowers from highs, while in the PET era, their low productivity was increasing.

The first was somewhat sustainable, though it caused much economic pain and brought us near the debt wall, with Chretien and Martin, kicking and screaming, adhering to Preston Manning's and Stephen Harper's warnings, and thanks to a booming US economy.

Oh and the IMF too. Now national marginal productivity decreases, perhaps to negative, so the resources to repay new debt are waning, not growing.

Add to that an additional burden - a tsunami of pension and medical entitlements to a generation that, while healthier than their parents, has saved less.

If high debt was not sustainable then, it sure as heck isn't now. I've been saying for years, and Harper warned last election, Canada, the US and Europe are an inflationary bubble existing within a deflationary world.

Meanwhile the markets are sky high, so everybody cheers. Houses in Victoria have risen at least 25% this year, from previously obscene highs. But sellers have to buy or rent in the same market, so it's wise to stay put unless screaming deals come along.

As boomers age, the consequences of big government, its and consumers' burgeoning debt will come home to roost. Something will trigger it, perhaps an unrelated event, a financial catalyst, to start the unwinding of our leveraged economies.

Hint: this is a time to reduce debt rather than increase it. But the boomers never listen so strap yourselves in folks for a rough ride starting soon.

And Trump? I love what he has done but he cannot inoculate his country from demographic reality, though his ideas of reducing the size of government are very welcome, his America First trade policies may not be so wonderful.

When Canada retracts economically, she looks outward, as a trading nation. The US though looks inward, towards protectionism, in those circumstances.

Those are my concerns. To be honest, there's not much any one us can do about it. Government attempts to "solve the problem" will only make it worse.

Inflation?

Wait until the price of oil goes back up, as it inevitably will. Plus carbon tax, that's going to be a beauty. People with long commutes will find it is -cheaper- to quit the job and stay home than drive to work.

Serendipity is an interesting thing. The captcha on this comment is "6500" "Litre". Good thing I'm not superstitious.

Move on, nothing to see here. When the going gets tough, PM Bent Twig will tell us what it means to be a Canadian. Looking forward to my twilight years enjoying tasty gruel in a state funded nursing home. Not looking forward to the fights that will invariably break out for the eyeballs in the goat's head soup.

The more deeverse we are, deewerse it gets.

To Dan in BC et al:

The GTA gave the cpc a majority. It will do it again.

Wage and Price controls. Yes. Give the little tit an opportunity for another "Jutht wath me" moment.

On the subject of inflation, I came across this on the internet a few days ago. It refers to the US, but is certainly applicable here as well.


For the past eight years, inflation has consistently been reported at low levels
(between 1% and 3%, with occasional bursts of outright deflation). According to
the government, price indices are barely moving at all. Of course that’s not
what folks encounter when the go to the supermarket, pharmacy, and gas station.
Prices seem to be out of control. Part of the problem is that the parts of the
basket going up (healthcare, education, food) are mostly necessities, whereas
the parts of the basket going down (electronics, travel) are more discretionary.
So, shoppers always feel the price increases, but don’t always benefit from the
price decreases. More importantly, older Americans are being squeezed by high
price increases in things they buy more of (healthcare), but receive no
increases in the social security benefits, which are indexed by the government.
The bottom line is prices are increasing, but median income and government
cost-of-living adjustments are not. With rising inflation thrown in for good
measure, most Americans are worse off economically regardless of what the
aggregate statistics say. Here’s a good overview (
http://theeconomiccollapseblog.com/archives/this-is-one-of-the-big-reasons-why-so-many-families-are-feeling-extreme-financial-stress

Hell, I'm cash rich & a Boomer. House paid for. Full TFSA, RRSP, non-registered accounts. I say bring it on! Bring back 20.5% mortgage rates & have those snowflakes feel the love that we Boomers had to deal with, back when bashing Alberta was some sort of sport in 1980.

I bet 90% of Trawnna housing goes on the block, 'cause they can't make the payments at 6%, never mind the 12.75% I started with. Sucks to be an LPOC voter. Miss Harper yet?

You millenial snowflakes wanted Trudeau. Fill your boots!

As to that poster up above that seems to feel that Boomers are the cause of his financial woes, ie CPP, healthcare. That stuff was voted in by our parents, A/H, your grandparents. I was about 10 years old at the time & the voting age was 21, not even 18 yet. We've been paying into that scam for all of our working lives & all we got was: "Boomers aren't saving enough for retirement". Against a stacked deck, who knew?

I got to my financial nirvana by hard work, no work, smart financials, despite high inflation & interest rates & asse-whole .gov policies. We also paid tax at 75% of Capital Gains, not 50% where we are now. Wait for it, you'll get to experience that, too.

Hardehar! You voted for this in every damned town & city in this country.

Yeah but, "the economy will grow fwom the heart out" and duhhhhhhhh "budgets balanth themselves" and uhhhhhhhh "poilicies that help the middow clath and those working hard to join the uhhhhhhhhh middow clath"... vote for a lisping idiot actor, get a lisping idiot actor... "Canada is back"!

Just give it more hart you haters and the budget will balance itself.

As someone in a similar position who got there through hard work and saving for retirement, I agree completely. I hope the artificial economy in the GTA crumbles, implodes, and falls on it's face to create a huge populist backlash to throw the lieberals in the garbage heap where they belong.

Congratulations, but sorry guys, you're not immune either, though in better shape than most, as Boomers with paid off homes and savings.

If inflation persists, interest rate increases follow, dropping the values of real and other investable assets, thus reducing their income, inviting taxation of the "rich," with the bar lowered enough to include you. Add to that a lowered currency, and attacks on entitlements, and the picture is ugly for all.

The great danger here is still deflation. Japanese monetary policy drove her economy into deflation, meaning buyers anticipate lower prices later, so postpone decisions. Look at the plethora of negative yield bonds, which presage deflation and currency devaluations.

Being a Victoria homeowner, I'm not quite so strong as others, but still OK with my small but indexed military pension and early CPP. Thanks Echoes for not allowing my taxes to increase; just yours when red dwarf's borrowing requires repayment at increasing interest rates, necessitating higher taxes. It happened before and it will happen again. Being whipsawed between domestic inflation and world deflation will not end well.

That's what I tell my daughter. You wanted to experience for yourself what big bad government does to productive people, now you'll find out. Meanwhile, the bank of mom and dad is closed; in fact we're cashing out; gimme my CPP and OAS on top of my military pension and appreciating home.

We're spending it all, with provision for the grandkids; our Echoes are on their own, with a little left after we exit our retirement lodges feet first.

But worse than the 80s, not because interest rates will be higher (they won't but they are always a function of inflation anyway).

I'll be worse since we are heading, partly thanks to big government and partly because of aging boomers, into lowered productivity, but also ever higher debt service charges, with no more bommers booming, just the fainter echo of their children, who if my experience is true, are still fiscal dependents of their parents, themselves just beginning to recover from sandwich generation obligations, letting the kids "learn for themselves."

Okee dokee gotta run and deposit my pension cheques. Just kidding, they're all direct deposit. This article explains the Echo-nomic dilemma well:

http://www.theglobeandmail.com/globe-investor/retirement/the-boomer-shift-how-canadas-economy-is-headed-for-majorchange/article27159892/

just another stepping stone to a time when 0.01% of the population own 98% of all assets, resources, royalties, bank deposits, cash filled shoeboxes, the all important real estate, precious bullion etc etc.
hint: when is it a really really good time to buy stock? when everybody else up to their arse in debt are selling! sell! sell! sell!

Trudeau, on his own, is a good man. He's surrounded himself with idiots. This is the price ''we the ordinary people'' have to pay.

Allah willing, I hope you're right. But, that is LIEberal central, and like typical Lieberals, they are easily fooled, easily bribed!

"As someone in a similar position who got there through hard work and saving for retirement"

Liar. You have a government indexed Union pension.
Nobody who had to save for retirement would say that farmers are underpaid for their produce and that food price should go up several hundred percent as you said when you were posting under your North of 60 persona here if they had to save for retirement and lived on a fixed income.

I confronted you at the time you said it and you disappeared only to return as John Galt awhile later without identifying that you had been North of 60 before.

what an idiot. Unions are the main reason jobs in North America went to Asia. Assembly line workers wanted craftsman wages for pushing buttons and driving robots. Asians were willing to do it just as well for much cheaper.

Only welfare sucking asswholes like Oz ever work for the government. Free men are self employed, and the most anti-union people anyone knows.

Just goes to show how incorrect extremist opinionated people can be concerning what they imagine about someone they don't know. Haters gotta hate; it defines who they are to the world.

"Trudeau, on his own, is a good man."... He is...? How so?

Enlighten me.
Good man for what?

Birds of a feather eh?

Good for you Shamrock. You've EARNED your leisure years ... however it sounds like your kids have "earned" their dependency on a soon to be shrunken Govt teat. My only fear for MY retirement is that President Chelsea Clinton will order the seizure of private equity accounts as has been done in Argentina, Greece, etc. in order to keep delivering goodies to her voting base of slackers.

I've got a few more years to go before I permanently flee to flyover country for a peaceful retirement of fishing and hunting. A few more years before my ESCAPE from CA. Yeah, yeah, I will have to convince the locals that I won't be a Californicator to their quiet community ... but I won't be.

I just dumped my youngest kid off our family auto insurance policy ... so I am getting closer and closer to true economic liberty. And damn it feels good to be a gangstah! ... cause I feel almost naughty for being so "selfish" for once in the last 40 years of diligent responsibility !

You, North of 60, are or were a Government Union employee. You never had a private retirement plan and you pushed the idea that farmers should get hundreds of percent more money for the food they produce because it wouldn't impact you, as a Government Union Worker with an inflation Indexed Government Union Pension.

You are intellectually bankrupt and you switched your internet nic from North of 60 to John Galt on the same blog, SDA, and wouldn't admit it until I called you on it.
How did I recognize you were the same insane person? Because of your idiosyncratic attitudes toward people shopping at WalMart, your attitude toward biofuels, and your general blithering with a specificity toward claiming that whenever you were criticized you would pull out famous quotes that were only tangentially related to the topic you were being disagreed about.

Hey, what can I say except that you are a very easily identifiable nutter.

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