If something cannot go on forever, it will stop.*
Britain’s health service is engulfed in a “humanitarian crisis” that requires the support of the Red Cross to use Land Rovers to transport patients, the charity said on Saturday.
Founded in 1948, the National Health Service (NHS) is a source of huge pride for many Britons who are able to access free care from the cradle to the grave.
But tight budgets, an ageing population and increasingly complex medical needs have left many hospitals struggling during the winter season in recent years, prompting headlines about patients being left to wait on trolleys for hours or even days.
h/t Adrian
Oh, the humanity.
Coming soon to a Canadian hospital near you… oh wait, its been like that for years here.
Unstated in the snippet above is Britain has PRIVATE hospitals too, which are all doing quite nicely. Canada does not. But it will. One way or another, it will.
“[A] source of huge pride for many Britons who are able to access free care from the cradle to the grave.”
As always the same old canard. Universal healthcare is not “free”.
That old mantra is well past its best before date.
The British & Canadian Health Care systems pay for the heart & hip replacements for any extended and long retired family members of the Third World that can make it to our shores.
Our Universities educate the future money launderers, recruiters, and facilitators of terrorist organizations, our “free” welfare system provides them time & money, and our “free” Health Care insures a long hateful life to beat us with.
This is not a good investment trade-off for an ample supply of taxi drivers.
I’m an old person. Heroic measures to extend the lives of old people by a couple of years of low quality life should be a thing of the past. People die and spending half the health care budget delaying the inevitable for a short time, maybe is a poor use of resources. Also stop letting in disabled and old people who will eat up a fortune in services and better look after Canadians.
I’ve been saying this for years, if the government is going to bring in 250-350,000 migrants every year they need a related government program to add 6-7000 medical doctors every year. Classic government incompetence, compartmentalization, left hand not knowing what the right hand is doing etc. One has to also consider the factor that far too many politicians and senior public servants ascribe to philosophies that collapse the existing society to bring about social justice.
Importing millions of diseased 3rd worlders at the lowest rung of the economic ladder surely has had no effect on the economic model for “free” healthcare. So now … YOU will have to PAY and PAY your UNfair share to make them well again. Socialism is economic retardation.
Dear Scar,
No one is stopping you from putting your personal beliefs into action for yourself.
Maybe they will recycle you into a nutritious food like Soylent Green?
Assuming, for a moment, that our health care system existed to actually provide health care to people instead of being a wealth transfer scheme, then yes, everyone above is right. But it’s not, so you’re not.
The same can be applied to the education system.
The people then run either do not care about you.
The UK surely has a leviathan healthcare system, employing the third largest barely manageable workforce on the planet after the Chicom Military and Indian National Railroad but as you say, at least they allow a parallel and competing private system. Canada should be so lucky. We are blessed with the politics of envy, hatred and resentment so deeply embedded that there isn’t even a public debate outside of a few web pages on the issue. Few of the problems of service delivery can be solved when the system of single payer (rationed by definition) and provider (unionized monopoly) are one and the same. We live in a nation that proudly provides a parasite’s paradise.
+1
Everything government does is a wealth transfer scheme. Since we have not had a free enterprise economy for many decades now it it also difficult to figure out what money belongs to whom these days.
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hmmm… more family physicians or… “safe insertion sites”…
“Individuals can receive state grants to pay for the service if
they can provide a medical note stating that they are unable
to get sexu@l satisfaction in any other way, and to prove that
they cannot afford to pay the costs themselves.”
if you build it… THEY WILL COME!!!
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Gawwwd … I heard about THAT!
So … in the face of dwindling resources to meet increasing needs … the Socialized medical community wants to ensure a nice solid hard-on and happy ending for … EVERYONE … regardless of age, nationality, religious affiliation, body odor, or “size”
It’s almost as if all the FREE LOVE hippies who have led us down this path, are desperate to maintain their good ‘ol 1960’s sexual freedom.
Sorry … time and tide wait for no one. You’ve dried-up, gone limp, and can no longer “perform” … because NATURE made it so. Try as you may … you can NEVER play god, even WITH other people’s money. Some things cannot be “fixed”. Better to learn a new hobby and improve your coping mechanisms.
There is also a massive way for healthcare systems around the world to save money, and well, that would be to actually perform healthcare instead of sickcare.
One of the largest problems is with chronic illnesses including T-II diabetes and obesity. But these are often not the root causes, it is metabolic disease that is often the root cause. And the cure is diet. It is that simple.
As noted in the BMJ article http://www.bmj.com/content/351/bmj.h5686 by Nina Teicholz, which has now been re-reviewed the US dietary guidelines is a crock of sh*t. This is the same guidelines that have been adopted by many countries around the world. It has resulted in a diet of highly processed carbohydrates in the name of heart health.
But what we got was a 30 year long experiment that has ended badly.
So what do we need to do, fix the diet.
T-II diabetes for example is, in essence, the body having a allergic reaction to carbohydrates by producing TOO much insulin, and causing a metabolic meltdown, in VERY, VERY simple terms. So, to keep constant happy customers doctors give patients metaphornin, then as the disease progresses exogenous insulin and a host of other chemicals. When all you need to do is remove the cheap processed carbohydrates from the diet.
The UK is starting to make progress, but it is not fast enough, check out Doc in the House -> http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b06qbs4n
It comes down to a simple analogy, you’re allergic to grass, what do you do, avoid freshly cut grass, and roll around in it and take tonnes of medication?? Sadly there is a huge economic pressures for you to roll around in the grass and consume the medication.
Immigration and end of life discussions are also very interesting, but we need to pull healthcare of the 70’s.
I appoint Thomas E. to explain this to Alberta’s Health Minister, Hoffman. She looks like she might not fully comprehend the situation.
“Dear Scar,
No one is stopping you from putting your personal beliefs into action for yourself.
Maybe they will recycle you into a nutritious food like Soylent Green?”
You took the words out of my mouth. Surely those espousing the virtue of putting down the elderly should at least be willing to set the example?
I appoint Thomas E. to explain this to Alberta’s Health Minister, Hoffman. She looks like she might not fully comprehend the situation.
I appreciate the optimism, I do.
We just need to move science faster than the average lifespan of scientists.
Max Plank – Science advances one funeral at a time
The Red Cross thing seems to be just politics and a bit of activism.
That said, the NHS is a huge bureaucratic organization that provides health care “free at the point of use”. And in that sentence are the problems: bureaucracies end up serving themselves, not their customers and “free” end up meaning demand is unlimited, constrained only by “waiting lists” and other rationing measures.
The general practitioners remain as independent businesses, but with effectively only one customer.
The political class seem unable to admit to the problem for fear of SJWs, etc. so (until the thing completely collapses) there is no possibility of discussion of how things might be done differently and what that might imply.
When you walk into my local (major/regional/teaching) hospital and see adverts displayed from ambulance chasing lawyers touting for business in suing the NHS you know something is very wrong…
If you want your last few months extended artificially then buy insurance to cover that. Otherwise, people with terminal disease should expect nothing more than morphine from the state. Public health care should be primarily for healing people, not extending the last few months of someone’s life.
A relatively simple (relatively) fix in Canada – in the event we are obligated to continue single payer – is to allow hospitals to bill the government for services as they deliver them.
As it stands, budgets are set at the beginning of the year and as such every patient that comes through the door is a draw on the administrators budget – which he needs to protect.
If you get a high flu season, then the front end of the budget gets drawn down quickly and the administrator needs to take steps to preserve it (close beds)
Then once the end of the year arrives and there is budget remaining, it must be spent – so maybe do some renovations or take some junkets to “study” rather than lose it in next years budget.
Billing on an as delivered basis would allow for better utilization of the facilities and medical personel.
The government would still oversee, but it would go a long way to potentially eliminating waste/ or delivering better care
It’s even worse in Germany.
A Female Doctor Working in Germany Warns the World
“Yesterday, at the hospital in Germany where I work,we had a meeting about how the influx of muslim immigrants from the middle east is simply unsustainable. Walk in Health Clinics cannot handle emergencies, being overwhelmed by the sheer numbers of serious health emergencies, they are starting to send everything to the hospitals.
Many muslims are refusing treatment by female staff here in Germany. The muslim men make sick, crude comments and overtures to the female staff members, because to them any non-muslim woman is a whore or a future slave. After brief exposure to these cruel, sadistic, female hating beats, we, women, are refusing to go among those animals, especially the muslim men from Africa.
Relations between the female hospital staff and muslim immigrants are going from bad to worse. Since, the assault and unreported rapes of German women last weekend migrants going to the hospitals must be accompanied by police with K-9 units.
Very high numbers of migrants have AIDS, syphilis, open TB and many exotic diseases that we, in Europe, do not know how to treat them.
If they receive a prescription in the pharmacy, when they learn they have to pay cash they become violent. They were told in the middle east that everything in Germany would be free. Everything would be handed to them on a silver platter.
more at:
http://nevo.news/index.php/2016/11/01/a-female-doctor-working-in-germany-warns-the-world/
It’s even worse in Germany.
A Female Doctor Working in Germany Warns the World
“Yesterday, at the hospital in Germany where I work,we had a meeting about how the influx of muslim immigrants from the middle east is simply unsustainable. Walk in Health Clinics cannot handle emergencies, being overwhelmed by the sheer numbers of serious health emergencies, they are starting to send everything to the hospitals.
Many muslims are refusing treatment by female staff here in Germany. The muslim men make sick, crude comments and overtures to the female staff members, because to them any non-muslim woman is a whore or a future slave. After brief exposure to these cruel, sadistic, female hating beats, we, women, are refusing to go among those animals, especially the muslim men from Africa.
Relations between the female hospital staff and muslim immigrants are going from bad to worse. Since, the assault and unreported rapes of German women last weekend migrants going to the hospitals must be accompanied by police with K-9 units.
Very high numbers of migrants have AIDS, syphilis, open TB and many exotic diseases that we, in Europe, do not know how to treat them.
If they receive a prescription in the pharmacy, when they learn they have to pay cash they become violent. They were told in the middle east that everything in Germany would be free. Everything would be handed to them on a silver platter.
more at:
http://nevo.news/index.php/2016/11/01/a-female-doctor-working-in-germany-warns-the-world/
more at:
//nevo.news/index.php/2016/11/01/a-female-doctor-working-in-germany-warns-the-world/
Hoffman IS the situation.
Yes, and ALL of these “refugee’s” & immigrants will eventually sponsor their extended families into Canada. Plenty of +65 Grandparents, Aunts & Uncles and anyone else they bring over for a “free” retirement with GIS (Guaranteed Income Supplement) and a Health Plan.
“GTA clinics overwhelmed with refugees”
http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/toronto/gta-clinics-overwhelmed-with-refugees/article6795820/
“Calgary refugee clinic reallocating resources to manage ‘overwhelming influx’”
http://www.metronews.ca/news/calgary/2016/01/27/calgary-refugee-clinic-reallocating-resources-manage-influx.html
Most of government’s job is manufacturing problems to solve. The Canada Food Guide is an example of that. They ignored Ludkin, rejected ‘Pure White and Deadly’, went Cloward-Piven with the carbs.
It really doesn’t matter. I’m pretty sure no one decides what their next meal is going to be based on what some bureaucrat recommends.
Trivia: Ben Stein is the late Herbert Stein’s son. I heard him quote these words on Neil Cavuto’s show just this weekend.
Yes they do decide what they’re going to eat based on what advertising bureaucrats tell them on TV adverts. Obese/overweight people are stupid and gullible, it’s just that simple.
In 2015, the NHS was the 5th largest employer in the world, with more employees than Indian Railways (http://www.forbes.com/sites/niallmccarthy/2015/06/23/the-worlds-biggest-employers-infographic/#6c319ab951d0). Given Britain’s population, the ratio of bureaucrat to patient is absurd. With most of the budget going to overpaid bureaucrats with their cash-for-life jobs, it leaves little money for actual patients.
Unionized Public employees are a parasitic class.
You would be wrong. The low fat guidelines from the 60’s and 70’s have been wildly successful.
http://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2014/02/24/modern-diet.aspx
When you look at just butter vs. margarine consumption, marketing campaigns from the government and industry for the low saturated fat diet were very, very successful.
look at just butter vs. margarine consumption, marketing campaigns from the government and industry for the low saturated fat diet were very, very successful. at getting people to eat artificial processed food like margarine, which is shown to be one of the major causes of the current obesity/sickness epidemic.
http://www.cbc.ca/passionateeye/episodes/in-defence-of-food
We can lead people to knowledge, but we can’t make them think
You vote, you elect governments that elevate debts and reduce services, eventually you pay dearly.
It ain’t rocket surgery.
“…In 2015, the NHS was the 5th largest employer in the world, with more employees than Indian Railways.”
I remember while I was living in Britain the 1980s the NHS was said to be the second largest employer in Europe. Only the Red Army was bigger. I believe the latter has been downsized since then, and I’m sure the NHS hasn’t.
Just what sick people need, a bureaucracy deciding how to “help” them.
Anyone ever seen compassion in a bureaucracy?
Healthcare?
Harr harr.. My vet and my dentist provide care, on time and as needed.
My Doctor, paid by the bureaus,using my taxdollar, asks me to hurry up and wait.
Puts me on lists for future scheduling of diagnostics.
Having been extremely lucky and healthy I have paid far more in taxes than I will ever cost the system, especially as the “highly skilled,government enforced standards will probably kill me before I see proper treatment.
Of course the British system is crumbling, the kleptocrats have feasted well, now the bill is due.
Any time a “public” pool of wealth is created, the bottom feeders turn up to swim.
Human nature is.
North of 60,
If your grandpa or father/mother isn’t already dead and are expecting more than “expect nothing more than morphine from the state” … well you know what you have to do.
“if you build it… THEY WILL COME!!!”
That works for only electric car charging stations in Fort McLeod (and anywhere, basically) and baseball fields in corn farms in Nebraska in movies.
Personally, I’d bet Shoeless Joe shows up at a charging station before any electric car.
A small explanation for those that only know what they are fed.
There is NO private health system in the UK. There are health system alternatives that exist. You can pay a health insurance (on top of your taxes and none deductible) IF you at any time require to use this then you have to be referred by your NHS GP, you can’t go to the private hospital and walking and ask to see a doctor, likewise there are no private GPs for the population. So yes for a small ransom yes you can bypass the NHS but to call it a private NHS is not really correct, however as a slight anomaly there is a real private alternative for Dentistry and that works really well, so much so that its hard to find an NHS dentist but the standard of oral hygiene and teeth health is certainly far better and as do know a few dentists those in the NHS are not only fed up with the NHS but miserable with the whole system.
we live and we die. Those who run die, those who are vegetarians die, drinkers die, the supposed healthy die. The best medical care on the planet will not get us past our own personal best before date.
Bingo! Of the seven officer cadets I was one of, and who became lifelong friends, the two healthiest, and most fit were the first two to pass away, one in his late 50s and one in his mid 70s. The rest of us are still pretending we walk straight and tall but with a breakfast table loaded with pills.
for some reason, I doubt it was my lifestyle, I seem to be outliving most of my peers. some days it gets depressing. I don’t need many pills, can still walk the golf course, and most days carry my golf bag. one of these days it will end.