Ontario electricity rates up again Nov 1; peak rate more than double off-peak
(Update -- this story's from November 2015. Apologies for the oversight.)
Ontario electricity rates up again Nov 1; peak rate more than double off-peak
(Update -- this story's from November 2015. Apologies for the oversight.)
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By increased costs from OPG's hydro stations they mean spilling water over the dam to keep capacity open on the grid for wind and solar.
By increased costs from OPG's hydro stations they mean spilling water over the dam to keep capacity open on the grid for wind and solar.
And the people of Ontario? Not a whimper!
I'm a really smart Albertan. I don't pay 17.5 cents. My bill says I pay 6 cents.
It says right on my bill 648 kwh @ .06 = $ 38.88 but my bill was for $ 109.23 before GST.
$ 109.23 / 648 = $ 16.86. Maybe I'm not all that smart after all.
Cutting middle class down to the EUnuch size, the death of a thousand cuts.
that would be 16.86 cents
Because of baseload power generation cost increases???? Give me a break :-( :-(
No wonder commies run Ontario.
Fact is...GREEN POWER needs subsidies....
They have to justify somehow...
If Hydro, nuclear, and gas were left alone...without paying for GREEN extortion...
Ontario would have power costs similar to rest of the North American world.
But then.......that is not mantra of the elite and PC crowd.
Pay it then folks....they got elected, no one else to blame.
you voted for it....to quote gunnery sargent from fullmetal jacket this is for kathleen wynne..."they're paying for it ...you eat it!"
Well if Ontario had not made that secret backroom last minute illegal PPA contract clause with Enron and instead listened to Ralph who wanted to keep everything in public hands ..... Oh wait
yer starting to sound like paul, the dog beater, from Calgary.
scar;
Here in BC we are paying $0.134/kwh all taxes in! 7 years ago it was $0.083/kwh. Up over 60%. Glad I own Fortis stock.
Hydro, nuclear, coal and gas fired power plants are cheap, efficient and proven technologies that satisfy base load and produce electricity under 10 cents a kwh. Wind and solar are closer to 30 and then there's the whole problem of being intermittent and unable to provide and meet base load demand. This is reality. something that is completely lost on progressives who can't understand that even if we got rid of hydrocarbons tomorrow, there would be nothing to replace it. 'alternative' energy would result in rolling brownouts, blackouts and general misery.
Here in Manitoba, my rate is 8.5 cents per kW.hr. This may be low, but that is about to change.
Over the past ten or so years, the NDP government used Hydro as a cash cow, depleting capital reserves just as they are embarking on some massive capital projects (initiated for political gain, rather than sensible investment). I fear we are about to tread in the well worn path of our fellow provinces and see outsized rate increases.
That increase will be on top of the tax on CO2 coming in January.
Ontario, you voted to impoverish yourselves.
Yeah, it's hard for me to feel sorry for Ontarions (or Albertans!) when they basically voted the rascals in.
You want your provinces back? Time for a political revolution, my babies. It's starting to happen all across the Western world — why should you be any different?
In a democracy people get the government they deserve.
Ontario did this to themselves -- schadenfreude
Back to doing laundry and ironing after 7 pm. Ridiculous as Ontario has a surplus of electricity and doesn't need this on peak off peak nonesense.
Old news from 2015? I already pay a peak rate of over 18 cents a kilowatt hour.
It is starting all across the Western world but the irony that is lost on all Canadians is that we booted out the guy that planted the seed to an economic recovery and then we voted in Tweedle-Dum, Tweedle-Dumber, and Tweedle-Dumbest (take your pick). Not one of them has the brains to run a lemonade stand in the Sahara.
In Ontario it is the public sector unions that got Mr. Wynne elected ...
and we all know that those unions are run by marxists ...
They have been hauling windmill parts through town all summer, destined for Tumbler Ridge. I imagine our power costs will match Ontario's soon. Guess what mines and sawmills need to run.
It was public sector unions, and media, and the "Whothat is not conservative enough" crowd, and especially the mindnubining incompetence of Whothat himself. If Whothat was replaced by a wooden plank PCs might have carried the day. Recall that they were only 2% behind in popular vote.
Not saying it won't happen again this year, but this is a story from Oct 15 2015.
"Back to doing laundry and ironing after 7 pm."
If you're taking public transit like you should comrade, you shouldn't be getting home from work before 7PM anyway!
Just moved to Ontario last month. Eyeballs popped out of my head when I saw the electricity rates. But...
So fare, I have lived and worked in six provinces in this country and one thing I've learned: It doesn't really matter. You'll get screwed one way or the other. If it's a high tax / utility fee area, then the cost of food and housing will be low (and the reverse). If the province charges lower taxes, you'll see more "service fees" (think Alberta and their health-care bills), higher government controlled insurance rates, etc.
There really isn't a way to win. They just screw you most based on what your local culture says you'll be willing to accept. Ontario's WASP culture history doesn't like income tax. But they believe in sinners paying to be green...so environment scams it is. Québec smokes more...so the cigarette taxes are low. But they'll get you on the income tax because it is a mortal sin to make a profit. And so on...
Yes, and don't forget the rate rider, IF you go over a certain power usage, per month, the rate jumps.
I put in a heat pump in 2009, the LIEberals changed Hydro rates 3 years later. Of course, the LIEberals had a subsidy to convert to 'efficient' heating units, a nice lead in to pay higher rates, as things turned out.
Gotta pay those unionized Hydro workers their $45/hr plus golden benefits, dontcha know! And 'smart' meters too, had to be installed. Meanwhile the push is on for birdkillers and solar panels too, as if we haven't learned from the failures around the world, our own governments have to join the club of renewable failures too. And, one can't ignore the LIEberal relationship between Morontariowe and Krusty Klark's korrupt krew.
If Hydro rates keep escalating at their current rates, and NatGas rates keep falling, I might turn off that heat pump, frequently, carbon tax be damned.
Damned LIEberals, a terrible two-faced bunch of corrupt cronies, of which, the NDP is marginally worse.
Come on DanBC, you really should know that BC may mean British Columbia, but that it REALLY means "BRING CASH".
I am informed that here in Ontariowe, if you have natural gas it is cheaper to shut off the power to the house during peak hours and run a gas fired generator to keep all the little things going while you're at work.
Pretty soon, you're going to see lots of working people killing the power during the day and doing everything after 6pm. The whole province will go nocturnal.
Personally I plan to look into a retail situation selling paraffin lamps. Sure to be a winner in a few more years.
the cost is the result of support for wind and solar and nothing else. scrap every damn one of the windmills and panels and build power plants that work. get rid of all liberal socialist politicians and bureaucrats and we will survive.
NachalNovea;
Suggesting that Ontario is getting their just deserts for voting the Liebels in is ignoring a certain reality. Ontarioians knowing voted in a government that would skim energy wealth from the west, in the form of a carbon tax, so that money could be spent in the east. The fraud of the AutoPact and the $100,s of billions spent there goes undiscussed. How westerners accept all this crap never ceases to amaze me.
During the RIO Olympics Opening ceremony CBC Peter Mansbridge was slobbering & declaring that Climate Change was Real (everyone else was talking about the Canadian Athletes) The theme of RIO was Climate Change… He then said that “RIO was all about getting more for less”.... That of course is the absolute opposite of the AGW agenda..
If the CBC was honest they would look at Ontario’s green agenda through the same Lens and see that “Getting Less from more” is the real mantra…. and that is not scientifically sustainable
My bill for June 24-July 26 is $267.73.
I'm 88 and live alone. Electricity 47.43; 25.02; 64.16; DELIVERY 92.38
Go figure.
Because I live alone my income is a couple thousand too much for me to qualify for assistance. Second "go figure".