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Ontariowe...

... the world's most indebted sub-sovereign borrower, will increase its current total debt of $300 billion by a staggering $50 billion in just the next four years.

By 2020-21, the Liberals will have recklessly hiked Ontario's debt 152% from the $138.8 billion they inherited in 2003.


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incest , sodomy , perversion, gubmint whore unions will propelled Wynne to another election

And people wonder why I drink.

152% ? Piker lesbo. Nutley is well on the way to out-pacing that in AB with only a 4 year run at it.

By 2020-21, the Liberals will have recklessly hiked Ontario's debt 152% from the $138.8 billion they inherited in 2003... and despite this criminal record they will continue to be re-elected and they will continue to receive a free ride from their comrades in the Media.

Who cares? They're killing the oil industry and Alberta is no longer able to bail them out with generous transfer payments, so if the economy east of Manitoba flounders and fails so what? It's like a farmer trying to increase egg production by choking the chickens. All the more justification for the West to separate and leave the East to it's Lieberal New-World-Order socialist fantasy.

Remember the national energy debate in the 1980s, when Calgary mayor Ralph Klein said: “Let the eastern bastards freeze in the dark.”?
That time is coming again with Trudeau-II, the Dauphin of New France.

Carbon taxing should help.....put Ontario right out of business.

So every man woman & child in Ontario owes just over $20,000 and its on its way to $24,000.

So glad I left Ontario...

"A strong GDP will eliminate the deficit" is Trudeau's mantra and his reason for deficit spending. The result is a $10 billion deficit has grown to $30 billion (in one year) AND GDP growth is slowing. Did anyone ask Trudeau what he meant by strong GDP growth (remember if the economy grows "the deficit will look after itself"). Was it 3%, 5%? Doesn't matter now because no one is talking about the deficit or the lack of growth in the economy and the IMF just cut Canada's GDP growth forecast to 1.5% for 2016 (pretty weak).

http://www.theglobeandmail.com/report-on-business/economy/imf-cuts-canadas-growth-forecast-despite-2016s-fast-start/article29604471/

Stealing $50 Billion over 4 years seems overly
ambitious but then again, half of it will likely
just be totally wasted in complex ways to hide
the direct smash and grab take.
A very talented free spending team is in charge.

The easterners won't freeze in the dark. They'll simply import more oil through their eastern pipelines.

They just want our transfer payments, not what we produce. That's because western Canada is a colony to be looted, something which PET shamelessly did, masquerading it as "national unity".

The sooner we separate, the better.

Canada, and specifically Ontario, is where free enterprise and innovation go to die.

I wish we could separate down a conservative/progressive Liberal line. That would be paradise. I've found my key to happiness is "identify the leftists in your life, then delete them from your contacts lists". Done

Everyone, regardless of where you live...
Get out of debt.
Now.
Pay all your credit cards off then use them rarely and wisely.
Start putting money away.
Not just in the bank but have cash reserves socked away at home and tradable commodities on hand for bartering.
Stockpile water and food.
3 months is good. 6 months is better. A year would be best if you can afford it.
If you feel so inclined obtain a PAL, a gun safe, know the law, abide by it, and get some firearms for hunting and sport shooting.
You'll be better off than 99% of the population who are distracted by all the bullsh*t out there should winter come.
And Winter IS coming.
It always does. :(

Everyone, regardless of where you live...
Get out of debt.
Now.
Pay all your credit cards off then use them rarely and wisely.
Start putting money away.
Not just in the bank but have cash reserves socked away at home and tradable commodities on hand for bartering.
Stockpile water and food.
3 months is good. 6 months is better. A year would be best if you can afford it.
If you feel so inclined obtain a PAL, a gun safe, know the law, abide by it, and get some firearms for hunting and sport shooting.
You'll be better off than 99% of the population who are distracted by all the bullsh*t out there should winter come.
And Winter IS coming.
It always does. :(

"A strong GDP will eliminate the deficit is Trudeau's mantra and his reason for deficit spending"
It has been shown again and again that deficit spending by government has marginal impact on GDP growth. Very few economists buy that old snake oil but it does seem to work on the voters.

It was only a matter of time before the Liebels made their carbon tax move. People taking comfort in the idea that Equalization payments would dry up for eastern Canada had better rethink how this country works. Carbon taxes will siphon money east no matter how profitable the industry is. Study the history of this country and then realize that through the centuries the wealth has always ended in the east. Ownership of the resources means absolutely nothing!

For those smug Canadians pointing to the presidential campaign down south as an example of how not to run a country had better reflect on what is going on here in Canada. As bad as Clinton is, and she is bad, our Liebels are further left and further down the road to breaking this country.

In the end the only hope for North America will be in a Trump win in November.

Sounds like a good plan on paper...living in Ontario it's a pipe dream, there's nothing left to save after paying for everything we need to survive in the mess created by the people who repeatedly voted for Liberals under McGuinty cum Wynne. We will have more of the same,they're still polling high. there are no protests in the streets but there will be more pan handlers and lines for food banks. Third World here we come.

"Sounds like a good plan on paper..."

It's apocalyptic nonsense.

Like it or not, your personal security and wealth depends on the political and economic situation of the country you live in.

"The sooner we separate, the better."

Right. Because nothing improves a country's economic situation better than tearing it apart.

Of course our "personal security and wealth depends on the political and economic situation of the country you live in". How come that's lost on the majority who vote for those who are wrecking it both federally and in most provinces?

"How come that's lost on the majority who vote for those who are wrecking it both federally and in most provinces?"

That's how democracy works.

If you think there's a better way, do let me know.

You are writing on the assumption that the airhead in Ottawa actually knows whereof he speaks.

Here is a suggestion, he does not. He is good at one single thing. He can remember the script as written for him.

This isn't intended to insult autistic savants and they should not be lumped in the same category as the airhead though at times,certain things being stated others follow of necessity. One can't avoid reality.

Do you really believe that the current arrangement is bringing this country together and strengthening national unity?

At least if western Canada separates, it won't be strangled by the self-entitled eastern elites any more. To them, we're simply the cow to be milked.

Kathleen Maduro Chavez Gore Wynne at you service.

God help Ontario, but please destroy Quebec if only to save Canada's economy and put an end to bilingualism. Then make everyone forget how to convert from metric to American measure. Then put a stake through the heart of multiculturalism. Then maybe just maybe, help those fools who believe in global warming to grow up and realize that it's just weather and it changes a lot or have their home blow away in a tornado.

Dear lord I know these request sound harsh, but we are dealing with zombies here.

"Like it or not, your personal security and wealth depends on the political and economic situation of the country you live in"
Take for example a country like Argentina, once one of the wealthiest countries in the world. By the time the Peronists were done, the country was irrevocably screwed. Will that be Canada's fate?

'Remember the national energy debate in the 1980s, when Calgary mayor Ralph Klein said: “Let the eastern bastards freeze in the dark.”?'

Although I am horrified by the idiotic fiscal policies of my old home province, I am also old enough to remember the debates about the NEP and Emperor Pierre the 1st. Yes NEP was ham-fisted and unfair. But I can tell you that Klein's remarks really rubbed a lot of people in Ontario the wrong way. For many years, Ontario was forced to pay ABOVE world market price for Western energy to support a pipeline that conveniently stopped at the ON-PQ border. Those wonderful people in Quebec and the Maritimes could pay much cheaper world prices while those in Ontario had to subsidize the west. So remarks like Klein's hit a sore spot. The west was not always for free trade and their "come to Jesus" moment happened at a particularly convenient time.

Now all of this is long ago and definitely the NEP did a lot more damage than what little good it did. But I would remind people that there was a reason why national infrastructure was built and it wasn't built with Alberta or Saskatchewan investment.

Democracy tempered with occasional assassination?

A blueprint for her buddy Justin to follow and lead the whole country down the garden path.

Don't forget, though, that Lougheed wanted to charge world-level prices for Alberta oil, but PET wouldn't allow it. And then Quebec started boo-hooing about how it deserved special treatment on oil pricing and so on.

Because of that, those infamous bumper stickers about the easterners freezing in the dark soon appeared.

Wynnedigo, Ol' Raiche, and turdo la doo are just symptoms of the problem: a shallow, stupid, effete electorate.

"At least if western Canada separates, it won't be strangled by the self-entitled eastern elites any more."

Oh, the Noble Western Canadian.

Free of all the venal spirit of the Perfidious East!

"Will that be Canada's fate?"

I don't know. Do you?

The way Canada works now is government of all Canadians by the eastern elites for the eastern elites.

I seem to recall that a revolution was started because of taxation without representation. The ungrateful colonials revolted against the government at the time because of it. I hear the ingrates won and went on to form their own country. I wonder what happened to them.....

"I don't know. Do you?"
No. Only a fool would pretend to guarantee what will happen but we can make a few general projections about what won't happen. Deficit government expenditure won't buy lasting prosperity.
MichiCanuck: The 1980 Federal Election was entirely about Clark's plan to move domestic prices closer to world prices. PET campaigned against that, won without 1 seat west of Winnipeg and brought in the NEP.
The original 'PIPELINE' debate was in the fifties and one of the reasons Dief swept to power.

Maybe it is time for the rest of Canada to have an Ontexit vote?

The fact that the 1980 election was over once the polls closed in Ontario was quite frustrating for me. I lived in B. C. at the time and when the results starting coming in and I saw that PET had won without even a single ballot in my riding having been counted, I wondered why I even bothered voting.

PET knew that. All he had to do was cozy up to Ontario and Quebec. In fact, I don't recall him doing much campaigning west of Thunder Bay. Why bother?

Don't forget that Clark also wanted to sell PetroCan and was ridiculed for it by the NDP in their election ads.

"The fact that the 1980 election was over once the polls closed in Ontario was quite frustrating for me."

Gee, too bad that more voters happen to live east of Manitoba than west of it. So sad.

As we well know in Saskatchewan, people leave when a province's economy sours. It's also the people you don't want to leave who move away first: the ambitious, young people, young families. The very people that highly indebted governments need to pay decades of accumulated debt, pension liabilities and purchase goods. I think the outlook for Ontario are too optimistic.

Western Canada still produces resources that the world needs and has relatively low debt so I expect the big beneficiaries of the Ontario government's mismanagement and high taxes will be the western provinces. I used to find it odd that the most neglected and exploited region of Canada is the one who has the strongest economy. The antics from Ottawa and the boom and bust nature of the resource industry makes the people more independent and resilient, I guess.

Eventually ... ALL ... of your tax dollars go to pay interest on the debt, and bloated civil service pensions ... pensions not available to the WORKING class. Then there is total FAILURE of the economic system and mass anarchy ... just as your brain dead leftist leaders have planned

"I seem to recall that a revolution was started because of taxation without representation."

Sorry, your analogy doesn't hold.

"No taxation without representation" was based on the fact that the Thirteen Colonies were unrepresented in the Parliament in London.

Are you implying that the four western provinces aren't represented in the Canadian Parliament? If so, how do you explain the 103 elected MPs from those provinces sitting in the House of Commons?

"The antics from Ottawa and the boom and bust nature of the resource industry makes the people more independent and resilient, I guess."

Which is why those independent and resilient Albertans voted for an NDP government, I guess.*

* Speaking of which, the West goes w-a-a-y back with the NDP. The old CCF got started in 1932 in none other than - drumroll! - Calgary. And the first CCF provincial government was Saskatchewan in 1944. In fact, provincially the Knee-Dippers have been very successful in Western Canada: BC, Saskatchewan, Manitoba and now Alberta too (OK, sure, there was that regretful episode with Bob Rae in Ontario during the Nineties).

Alberta NDP benefitted from a divided right and PC corruption. This little political flirtation with the NDP will probably not happen again for another 40 years. :)

Secondly, the old NDP and new NDP are entirely different species. The old NDP had its base in rural areas and working class. Salt of the earth, common sense people who new the value of a dollar. The new NDP are academics, live in large metro areas. Snobs, live in the clouds. The old NDP was still wrong on economics and such (compare the divergence between Conservative Alberta and socialist Saskatchewan)but they weren't completely out of touch with reality.

The fact is that western Canadians (individuals) are the ones who pay into equalization and their provinces receive little to nothing in return from Ottawa, except threats to their economic interests. $ of debt per capita is lower. The population is younger and richer than the Canadian average. Economic growth in the 21st century has been better than the Canadian average (except very recently). It's an unhealthy relationship.

And those voters are entitled to lay claim to our resources and tell us how to live and manage our affairs? That sounds like tyranny to me.

PET wasn't interested in national unity. The Spawn isn't either.

"The fact is that western Canadians (individuals) are the ones who pay into equalization and their provinces receive little to nothing in return from Ottawa, except threats to their economic interests."

Stop! You're breaking my heart!

Oh, the humanity!

"And those voters are entitled to lay claim to our resources and tell us how to live and manage our affairs? That sounds like tyranny to me."

I don't much like the way the last federal election turned out myself but that's the annoying thing about democracy, you know, where the boring old majority vote determines which party gets to run the government.

It only sounds like "tyranny" to you because you aren't getting your own way.

No, it's tyranny when an elitist majority on the other side of the country believes that my region exists only to supply it with resources for next to nothing, as well as transfer payments, giving little in return.

It began under PET. It continues under the Clown Prince.

"Of all tyrannies a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It may be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep, his cupidity may at some point be satiated; but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end, for they do with the approval of their own conscience."
--C. S. Lewis

Unfortunately, the ruling eastern elite is both. It is a group of moralistic busybodies through, for example, imposing phony-baloney legislation designed to protect feelings and a mob of robber barons by pillaging our wallets and bank accounts with its carbon tax and mandatory transfer payments.

We lose either way.

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