31 Replies to “The Decline And Fall Of The American Empire”

  1. Talk about pissing on the graves of the fallen. There was a race for the bomb that the Americans won by a whisker. Given the monstrosity that was the Japanese Empire with the countless beyond describable atrocities it committed to literally murder and rape its’ enemies into total submission deserved much more punishment than the two nukes dished out. The Japanese had no respect for any life not born under the Rising Sun. The bombs were the easy way out for the Asian monster.

  2. The man ought to tour Nanjing and speak to some of the survivors of the Japanese occupation if there are any. My brother worked with a colleague who used to say that had it not been for the A-bomb he would have died in a Japanese concentration/work camp. War is nasty business. What ever it takes to finish it . . .

  3. Hey! Obumer thinks he’s on the winning side, supporting ISIS and Jihad. However,it is the leftarded
    fools in United States of Aholes who keep electing these commies. Sad to see such a once nice country going to 4th world status,screw 3rd!
    captcha-2222???

  4. Ted Cruz should go there and say he does not apologize. It would make him the runaway winner of the nomination.

  6. Only the most ignorant would argue that using the atomic bomb was unnecessary. The Japanese were quite prepared to defend their homeland to the last man even though the war could very well have been extended for months or perhaps years. The country would have been ravaged from one end to the other and the deaths, both military and civilian would have been astronomical. If the Russians had invaded from the north, the war might have been shortened but it would have been much nastier. One only has to look at how ferociously the Japanese defended conquered islands like Guadalcanal and Tarawa. One can only imagine how they would have reacted to an invasion of the Japanese homeland.
    Of course those who are ignorant of history and argue against the use of the bomb have probably never heard of Iwo Jima or Okinawa and the unspeakable bloodshed that resulted to take and hold these islands.

  7. It wasn’t won by a whisker, Martin. From examining the remains of the German and Japanese nuclear programs immediately after the war (yes, Japan had a nuclear weapons program), it became very clear that neither of their programs were going to produce an explosive device any time soon. They had neither the resources, the materials or the technology to produce a bomb. And all of that’s a very good thing.
    Biffy, leftist historians have been trying to rewrite the history of nuclear weapons in WW2 for more than 50 years. What they resist is the understanding that, absent nuclear weapons, there would have had to be a conventional invasion of Japan causing millions of casualties. It was precisely the ghastly experiences on Iwo Jima and Okinawa which led Truman to understand that, however reluctant he was, he had no alternative. Those two were the key. By 1945, Japan had lost the war, and they knew it from their own records. But Okinawa showed that Japan would not surrender to any conventional assault. The Joint Chiefs estimate for the human cost of Operation Downfall was horrific, from 30,000 to 300,000 US fatal casualties, with Japanese casualties running into the millions.

  9. Western culture, even though it is in decline, is the greatest culture in the history of the world.
    Not perfect but the best.
    Therefore, because there is no moral equivalence, no apology is needed.

  11. It’s not like the Japanese have ever truly apologized for the butchery, mass rape, destruction, and aggression that made Hiroshima a reality.
    …that says it all.
    It would have been more symbolic and destructive if the bombs had been dropped just offshore to coincide with the rising sun to trigger the biggest tsunami in Japanese history, and then threaten to keep doing that till they capitulate.
    The decision makers were probably more interested to see what the bombs would do to a city.

  12. Actually, Jean, the military wanted to drop the bomb on a harbour, Tokyo I believe. But the scientists wanted to see what it would do to human beings and convinced them to drop on cities.

  13. The results of bombing Hiroshima and Nagasaki were terrible. There’s no denying that. But those planning the American invasion of Japan knew that the alternative would have been far worse. Not only would the war have lasted at least a year, maybe two, longer, but the casualty rate on both sides would have been horrific and on a scale not seen before.
    A book about that was reviewed on John Batchelor’s show last month:
    https://audioboom.com/boos/4343189-hell-to-pay-operation-downfall-and-the-invasion-of-japan-1945-1947-by-d-m-giangreco.mp3

  14. You are wrong, and have it precisely backward.
    Read the link:
    http://www.atomicheritage.org/history/decision-drop-bomb-1945
    The scientists including Leo Szillard proposed options including a demonstration first. The military Interim Committee proposed a direct strike as soon as possible. It was the view of the military that there were neither the time nor the resources to waste in demonstrations. Aside from the two used, the United States had materials for no more than four others. Secretary of War Stimson never even considered the demonstration.

  15. I stood where the atomic bomb devastated a major neighbourhood in Nagasaki (Nagasaki is a hilly city which helped in some way to protect it from massive all-out damage; windows of churches several kilometres away were blown out by the blast). I even refused to sign an anti-nuclear bomb petition handed out by a high school girl. As she gaped at me, all I could think of was what an empty gesture it was. What difference does one bit of paper mean to Kim Jong-Il or Kim Jong-Un?
    The militaristic Japanese were as ISIS now – barbarous and cruel. Obama supports Islamism and ISIS and loathes the West, particularly the US and Judeo-Christian ethics. It is no surprise, therefore, what he might say about the necessary decision to bomb Hiroshima and Nagasaki. Give it time and he and other leftists will apologise to Germany and even Russia for noticing their crimes against humanity.
    Leftists are marked by what they hate. They have no love in them save for a perverse love of evil. Call that cheesy if you like but it is true.

  16. Bill Whittle has an excellent take on the A bomb saving perhaps millions of lives.
    Kate;’s posted it before but I can’t find it.
    Anybody?

  19. Sir Laurens van der Post in his book “The Night of the New Moon” described his experience as a POW of the Japanese. He and his fellow POWs knew the tide of war was flowing against the Japanese and were convinced they would be massacred and their bodies burned to as to leave no trace. They were desperately trying to get lists of POWs – living and dead – out to the locals in the hope that their lives and deaths would be remembered. Only the dropping of the two bombs, and the assumption of command by the Emperor followed by his surrender, saved them.
    We should also not forget Hong Kong, 1941. We all remember Pearl Harbour of that year, but forget Canadians fought in the futile defense of Hong Kong later that year. Hong Kong surrendered on Christmas Day; but on Dec 24 Canadian wounded were bayonnetted in their beds and the nurses killed. The survivors were taken to Japan; more died under the brutal servitude that the Japanese imposed upon them. It can be fairly argued that those who survived only did so because of “the bomb”.

  21. Amen to what DrD and Justthinkin said. War is a nasty business and if you do not fight to win you will lose, and we are slowly losing this war against ISIS.

  22. The US Military is still handing out Purple Heart Medals that were minted in anticipation for the planned casualties from the first few months of the invasion of Honshu. Seventy years, after the Korean, Vietnam, Afghanistan, Two Iraq wars and countless little brushfire wars, we still have Purple Heart Medals to give out from those stockpiled for the invasion of Japan.
    My uncle was sent to occupy Germany in 1946. Likely he would have been fighting in Japan if not for the Atomic Bombs and their surrender in August 1945. The bombs saved millions of Americans, British and Canadians. They saved Tens of Millions Japanese.

  23. I remember listening to the BBC World Service when it was observing the 60th anniversary of Hiroshima and Nagasaki.
    The story was told of a former Japanese soldier telling an American dignitary that he was grateful that the bombs were dropped. If that hadn’t happened, he may likely have had to defend the homeland against an invasion and he might have been killed.
    The bombs brought the war to a quick end. That meant that he survived and was able to rebuild his country and have a good and satisfying life. That might not have happened if an invasion had taken place.

  24. If John Fitzgerald Kerry would like … I can show him photos of Japanese atrocities visited on Americans, Philippinos, Pacific Islanders, Chinese, Burmese … etc. Yeah, photos WORSE than skin peeling from a Hiroshima
    “survivor”. And yeah, JKF … torture. I mean REAL torture … not “waterboarding” (aka fake drowning). That would have been laughed at by the WWII Japanese. Perhaps if you had REALLY been to war (not the fake Documentary you selfied of yourself in Vietnam) like your unfortunate namesake, you would know the difference. And if you did … you wouldn’t have spent your whole life posturing and grandstanding like some cheap tart primping herself for a night out on the street corner. JFK … you are an embarrassment to the United States. But a really nice useful IDIOT for your Commander-in-Apologist.
    Have we received our official state apology from Japan for the unprovoked slaughter of our men at Pearl Harbor ? How about the Emperor ? Has Japan’s most HOLY leader apologized ? For any of the ugliness perpetrated on the world by his people ? Anybody of any importance commit seppuku out of shame for their atrocities (no, and I don’t mean out of shame for LOSING)? Any of those weepy-faced women holding the broken bodies of the Hiroshima dead … weep for Americans upon learning of the atrocities committed in their name ? No, I didn’t think so. Because Japan doesn’t self-flagellate like American liberals do.
    How DARE this administration even ATTEMPT to apply their 2016 faux outrage on a hellish 1944 War. These men don’t know one iota of detailed knowledge about WWII. They barely got through the Cliff Notes version for the C- they received in US History. They probably don’t even know that it was THEIR party’s president who gave the order to NUKE Japan. Bless him for doing so. A POX on their house !! Shame !!

  26. I thank God for these two nuclear bombings. My dad was scheduled to land on Kyushu in late ’45 – the odds were that he’d be dead, my mother would have been a widow with my elder sister an orphan and my younger sister and I would not have been born.

  27. What’s interesting about the sites of both bombs, is that it demonstrates and totally destroys the anti military’s assertion about the million years of sterile land after a bomb has dropped. Both sites have thriving cities built on ground zero, complete with trees,people, etc.

  29. 1. ‘The Japanese had, in fact, already sued for peace before the atomic age was announced to the world with the destruction of Hiroshima and before the Russian entry into the war.’
    October 5, 1945, Admiral Chester Nimitz
    2. ‘On July 20, 1945, under instructions from Washington, I went to the Potsdam Conference and reported there to Secretary [of War] Stimson on what I had learned from Tokyo — they desired to surrender if they could retain the Emperor and their constitution as a basis for maintaining discipline and order in Japan after the devastating news of surrender became known to the Japanese people.’
    Allen Dulles, 1966

  30. One of my Mother’s classmates was a veteran of Hong Kong.He ruefully remarked to Mom when he finally arrived home in 1946,”they said we’d be home by Christmas,but they didn’t tell us it would be Christmas six years later”.
    The gentleman went off to war a strapping 220 pound farm boy from Manitoba, he returned home a shell, weighing about 100 pounds. I still remember the “haunted” look in his eyes, he was the most quiet person I ever knew,worked on his farm raised two good kids,never,EVER spoke of the war.
    And the reason I still detest Brian Mulroney and always will,is because when the Japanese Prime Minister visited Ottawa on an official State visit in the early 1980’s he asked PM Mulroney if he thought Japan should pay reparations to the Canadian POW’s.
    Mulroney replied,”no,it was a long time ago”.

  31. It was recently demonstrated through a painstaking reconstruction of the records of the dealings of the Japanese government that indeed, the bomb was unnecessary. The Japanese were confident that they had a lot more cities than the Americans had bombs, and were every bit as prepared and willing to fight off an invasion after Nagasaki as before. What moved them to surrender was not the bomb, but Stalin’s declaration of war, which completely undercut their position and left their strategy doomed.
    Of course, the Americans had no way of knowing that Stalin would enter the war. They had, indeed, twisted his arm into agreeing to do exactly that, and had regarded that as the great achievement of Yalta. But they took it for granted that he wouldn’t keep his word, and if he did, it never occurred to them in the circumstances that it might matter. He certainly never bothered to tell them what he had in mind, any more than he saw fit to tell them that the Japanese wanted to negotiate a settlement (as indeed they had told him they did). If anyone had understood all of what was going on, they might have seen no need for the Hiroshima bomb. But nobody had that luxury.

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