We Don’t Need No Flaming Sparky Cars

Tesla Tumbles On “Worse Than Average” Reliability: “…we’re also seeing major issues in terms of the charging systems. We’re even seeing people who have to have the entire electric motor replaced.”
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Too funny. I briefly subscribed to Consumer Reports because I wanted to read some reviews on washing machines for my parents, but when the Tesla love affair began I cancelled my subscription immediately.
They begged me to come back and I told them not a chance because as an engineer I was appalled by their ridiculously over-hyped and biased review of the Tesla, and because of that I didn’t trust them.
Maybe many others did the same.

I happened to see a Tesla parked beside a Lamborghini the other day. There were a number of people eyeing the Lambo with envy while the Tesla sat ignored.

Do not fear Canada, our turn will come, under the New Government stimulus spending will come Canada’s own electric car, fully financed by taxpayers and all donations taken by well connected liberals…
To “save” the Ontario Auto Industry of course.
They will bring us the Butts Mobile.

But at least it qualifies for a $25,000 tax subsidy in the U.S.

Let’s hope Justine won’t make these sparky cars mandatory.

Proglodyte logic – we need a carbon tax which will raise the cost of everything including basics like food, mainly hurting the poor. But we need to subsidize a millionaires toy car that has limited range and can’t be driven in winter. Yup, that’s progress to the proglodytes.

I think I need to get a progloectomy so this can make sense to me.

You think we’re having fun now, wait until these things start driving themselves.

Who doesn’t need a car that doesn’t like it when it gets really cold, uses up it charge on heating and air conditioning so that its rated mileage will just get you into town and back and you need a second car for when real world conditions prevail?
How much environmental damage does building an extra car for when your car isn’t up to it do?

Musk better get on the phone to Obama for another subsidy to study the problem.

In the latest issue of Road & Track magazine, on the very back page, there’s an article by Bob Lutz who used to be chairman of a number of different auto companies. In his article Lutz suggests that TESLA cannot last at the present rate of $$$ consumption. TESLA is losing money on every car they build and there’s some speculation that the company will fail shortly. Of course, this kind of stuff looks like the death-knell for TESLA.

And a no tender contract awarded to none other than Bombardier.

Hey, Great Idea!
We could have it built in New Brunswick by the 25,000 highly educated Muslim Migrants. We could, call it “Bricklin Deux”. And, just like the original politician responsible for “Bricklin Un”, the current designer is a dope (smoker).

The Tesla saga is just a low budget pre-enactment of the rise and fall of some shiny new government.

“We Don’t Need No Flaming Sparky Cars”
I disagree. Sitting out on the front porch or at the picnic table, with my beer and popcorn,I want to see thousands of these little buggers blowing up on my street. The entertainment will be priceless!

Strange.
Everything available in the non fan literature seems to indicate that
the rent seeking by Tesla’s big shots has been utterly reliable, very
much admired, and a great guide for those outsiders who would also
like to join some facet of the scam the taxpayer party.
I lost faith in CR when they gave up their long lasting crusades against
“poor value” automatic transmissions and factory installed radios.

Wouldn’t it have to be the Bricklin Al Halal?

Dont give the idiots any ideas. Remember, its Morontariowe, only backwards logic applies

Has anyone else noticed that the graphs were somewhat less than
instructive for the years 2015 and 2016? Trust me, the check
must have bounced because the colored balls do not match the
ratings. The publication either swallowed the BS or were
willingly complicit in propagating it.

My god.. what a bunch of stupid, knuckle-dragging comments.
BC – you say you’re an engineer? I say “BS”. Every engineer worth his salt knows an electric motor is twice as efficient as an IC motor, just on an “energy potential of fuel in/usable energy out” basis (IC engines have that whole Carnot cycle thing, remember?), and even more than that on a HP/lb of total drivetrain (adding in, for example, the radiator, fan, exhaust system, etc.). Batteries are an issue today, yes. But gasoline was an issue with the first cars, too. I can imagine you, and the other posters above, in 1890 – “How you gonna get that car across the country? Can’t feed it grass! Hyuk-hyuk!!”
There is only ONE reason for preferring an IC car to an electric today, and that is we have yet to find an energy storage medium as dense, portable, and prevalent as oil. However, I believe engineers – real ones, that is – will solve the energy storage problem eventually. When that happens, we will see IC cars disappear as quickly as Walkmans did after iPods hit the scene.
Electricity is just a better way to run a motor than gas on efficiency, on pollution, on the amount of material required to build one, on maintenance (According to NADA, the auto parts company “the average car has over 10,000 moving parts”; if only half of those are in the motor, that’s 5,000 compared to less than 10 in the typical electric motor), and on size. The IC motor wins on range (current battery technology), ease of refueling, and (perhaps) cold weather performance (I remember many times my fairly new car wouldn’t start in Ottawa winters).
I’ll certainly concede that with today’s technology, electric cars can’t fill all the applications that today’s cars do, but to suggest that they don’t fill any needs right now, and can’t EVER fill the others is to fly in the face of all technological advances. The one thing I have learned about tech is “Never say never!”.

Is that not the thrust of our sarcasm?
Do not get carried away by the pollution angle, the up front pollution is high.
When the technological barrier of the needed storage medium is broken, there will be some new billionaires and a shift in inner-city transport.
However government “help” will not get us there.Just steal more productive effort and gift it to the rent seekers.
The electric car lost out to steam, because even wood had better energy storage/weight ratio.
Also do not overlook the present regulations, you produce a battery equivalent to the fuel tank in my diesel and I will show you how to make a real nice bomb.
Other than that I whole heartedly agree, I would love an electric car that works at -30C.
And could be charged by discrete power when not in use.

The batteries produce heat during discharge and this is used for heating. AC has a minimal impact on range. Marble

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