March 16th at 1:00pm PST – The debate will be on CFAX 1070AM radio and you can listen to it live on the internet here.
They’re inviting listeners to call in with questions: 250-386-1161
That went sort of badly for May, who faced an unrelenting stream of critical callers, before suffering a mini-meltdown in the closing seconds. (Podcast here)
I give May 2 minutes before she goes off on a screaming rant and has to be cut off…
Make sure you’re standing clear of the blast radius when her head explodes.
Too bad SNN wasn’t still around for this one.
They could sell tickets.
I wonder whether May had to undergo a certain surgical procedure to get on the Afghan climate delegation a couple years ago. On second thought I don’t want an image of May’s anatomy in my head.
She’ll bail.
I don’t expect much of a debate, Ball will quote facts, May will spew dogma.
The woman has bought into Agenda-21 completely,in the guise of saving the planet wants to impose communist style totalitarianism on the world.
May is NOT a Green hero, she is among the worst of the fascists along with Mo Strong, but the young and credulous see her as an environmental hero and saviour of the Earth.
Bloody useless trough hog.
Is Ball a political Scientist? If not he has a disadvantage!
Think of the children…Think of native sharing…Well it’s better to do something than doing nothing. Dammed Science wants evidence, can’t you see the hockey stick!
WOW!!!!!!!!!
muslim men say their women wear the big cover up face etc to prevent men from lusting after them
I have HAVE the solution the muslim men must wear the big cover up and the women will not need to worry about them lusting after them anyone AGREE
Get ready here it comes. Her opening statement is hilarious.
The difference in opening statements was night and day. He was citing facts and figures, many from the IPCC’s own reports. She, on the other hand, was talking in feelings and policy, not actually refuting anything he said (with the possible exception of the origin of the term “climate change”.)
I’ve got my popcorn.
Key deliverables? she’s done.
Was it King Henry VIII who asked, “Will no one rid me of this troublesome priest?” ?
Wow, that was one big honkin appeal to authority:
To bad no one on one.
Rebuttal?
Before you tell us what to think about the threat of climate change, you have to prove that it is and humans are causing it, which you haven’t, Ms May. Oh BTW, the “conservative” science of the IPCC included backpackers at Mt Kilimanjaro.
Scientists have only speculated on the role of CO2 in the greenhouse effect, for which water vapour is the only real climate driver. CO2 on steroids, having a higher than scientifically possible IR feedback, only exists in the minds and models of the IPCC. Not experimentally, and not observed either. Under these conditions it is not the case human activity trough the burning of fossil fuels and deforestation to “change” the climate. Humans are not changing the chemistry of the atmosphere, there is zero evidence of that and we are not changing the currents and gulf stream. The world, often much warmer did fine without humans.
Humans are not large contributors to atmospheric CO2, and CO2 is not a driver of climate anyway, or at the most have a small at most contribution to that (I personally think zero), so no need to shut down the oil sands. The vast majority of emissions are downstream, so how they’re produced or delivered makes no difference.
BTW Ms May I’ve also had a “ringside seat” with climate change. We experienced it, no need for a climatology dept to tell us. She just said the science was solid, again with no evidence of human involvement. Now the earth would be cooling if not for humans? Earth to Liz, we’re still in an ice age. 800,000 years is an awful long time; it’s quite significant. So, by her logic, cell phones are warming the earth.
Anyway, the next round of calls are unlikely to yield much. No, Liz, you haven’t talked me into into carbon taxes so never mind. Oh my, more appeal to (poor/repudiated) authority. She is on the side of the myth of doubt. She’s right, it’s not based on fear, it’s based on money. Yikes.
Not a single pro-globull warming call so far.
I’m listening and eliziabeth is getting ripped apart. The callers are ripping her apart not ball. lol This is a train wreck.
One guy talked about al gore getting taught about global warming by some knob and he failed the course with a D and the guy said the best enemy to have is the one you create , the best enemy to explain is the one you have created, the best enemy to fight is the one you create.
She is getting picked apart. lol
“2014 the warmest year on record”, says EM. You lose.
She really started to lose it at the end. I’d say Ball wins this one based on the weight of the callers and Lizzy’s meltdown.
Took ’til near the end for her to unspool.
But unspool she did.
Henry 2nd regarding Thomas Becket the bishop of Canterbury
She won the debate….just ask her….she’ll tell ya……whether ya ask er not.
Her reaction to the climateGate emails was hilarious……
That was better than I thought! Victoria is my home town of 33 years and I was not expecting a ‘skeptic-heavy’ call log. Mind you, skeptics are probably the only ones really interested in a debate of this nature these days; for the rest the science is in.
For me EM’s first flub was trying to correct Ball’s assertion that an early caller mentioned only Sweden and not Denmark. She interrupted him to say so but for any listener paying 1/2 attention she was incorrect. It went downhill from there for her.
Thanks for pointing out this ‘cast Kate!
Anyway anyone can listen to it. Missed live broadcast.
http://www.cfax1070.com/Podcasts
Ian Jessop March 16th. Podcast is already up.
Here is the link
March 16 1pm by Ian Jessop CFAX
Apparently E. May was in Toronto to join in with
the rent-a-mob crowd protesting C-51.
Wonder how she got back to Victoria so fast……
Shamrock said “Wow, that was one big honkin appeal to authority”
Abso-friggin-lutely!
The facts fail her because her sources have long been discredited and her past-shelf life talking points made irrelevant by new evidence.
All she had left was to get into a pissingmatch about my sources are better than your sources snit – then she loses it and blows all credibility
Thanks for the link. I was unable to listen to the original and found this very INTERSTING!
“Was it King Henry VIII who asked, “Will no one rid me of this troublesome priest?” ?”
That quote is credited to Henry II…..
fhl – I would wear one of those “bags” over my head if Dolce and Gabbana designed it. Just heard that Elton John and his Canadian sweetie or throwing hissy fits over statements by the designers (who are apparently a couple) who said they do not believe in gay couples adopting children, especially those designed designed from rented wombs!
Do you think that the CBC might report on this?
“walk a mile in the shoes of the big cover up garb before you decide you are for or against”
my motto
too bad the males are free to live without this garb
Give the poor woman a break! She sat in the House beside Trudeau for some time! Your brain can’t function while you sit in a cloud of CO2 with the odd whiff of methane from time to time!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RqziQX7eEv0
That is a conversation that needs a transcript for it to be followed.
Lizzie seemed to jump all over in her opening.
I don’t agree with Ball’s correlation of Egypt’s downfall with rising corn prices. IMHO, they could not afford basic food because their tourism dollars dried up.
May mentioned twice about the ‘elegant’ solution that Norway devised to counter the unpredictability of solar/wind. You just pump water to mountain reservoirs when the sun shines and the wind is blowing and let it out when it is needed to create hydro-electric power.
How well would that work on the prairies ?
How much would it cost in the middle of B.C.?
This plan is akin to saying that a house with a windmill and solar panels can get by with only a small fossil fuel generator to help out when Gaia doesn’t provide, therefore you can run a city on the same premise.
Truly elegant to some, but reality is starkly different.
Does anyone know if her book is perforated in four inch squares? You know, kind of like the old Eaton’s catalogs were useful after the new came. If so, then it would at least be somewhat useful as compared to the bull she was flogging.
“I don’t agree with Ball’s correlation of Egypt’s downfall with rising corn prices. IMHO, they could not afford basic food because their tourism dollars dried up.”
Corn into ethanol is what did it. It was the rise in food prices, meat in particular, caused by U.S. government subsidized animal feed(corn) for ethanol stock. The Egyptian government as well as a huge number of Middle Eastern governments who are ‘water poor’ subsidize food prices so that their people can eat. Hungry people are discontented people.(bread and circuses)
Having a virtually bottomless price for a commodity(tax subsidization in order to convert it to ethanol) for political reasons warps the market all out of reality. The corn lobby in the U.S. was already a monster(politically) even before the Global Warming swindle, but the idea of corn-to-ethanol poured gasoline on the fire.
The ‘corn to energy’ debacle did contribute to the higher price of food. There is no doubt about that,
However, many countries also faced that same problem. They did not collapse in the spectacular way that Egypt did.
“Truly elegant to some, but reality is starkly different.”
True, but because of the relentless leftist media propaganda many believe these elegant unreal dream world solutions, and unscrupulous politicians are taking advantage of the chicken little fear tactics to gain more power, wealth transfer, and the raising of taxes for the insatiable maws of government. Not to mention the enrichment of some crony capitalists making hay off of wind and solar.
Occam is right, May tried hard to make the case that her 3% sources were more credible than all of Tim’s sources. There never seems to be enough time for, in this case Tim, to discuss that of the thousands of scientists queried only a small number replied and only a few of those accepted man made global warming.
What no one touched on was the UN’s and IPCC’s plans for massive wealth transfers from the west to 3rd world countries.
I know it seems almost impossible, but I think more brainless twats (both male and female) voted in May, than JT, in the last election.
“They did not collapse in the spectacular way that Egypt did. ”
The Muslim Brotherhood has been working to overthrow the Egyptian government for a long time. That made Egypt a special case.
They were behind the assassination of Anwar Sadat in 1981. The Muslim Brotherhood were illegal for a few decades, Mubarak relaxed and let them become legal again, and now the new Egyptian government has once more banned them from the legal sphere in Egyptian society.
The trigger, the cause of discontent that allowed the MB to openly challenge the government, was food. Mubarak could have put his foot down and stopped the MB, except for Barack Obama’s speech which led the Egyptian government to understand that taking a hard line against the MB would have the Obama regime opposing them. Remember, MB led protests had donned the cloak of democracy as a wolf wearing a sheep’s skin, but after the MB was in power the MB cast the disguise aside and showed Egypt and the world their mailed fist. That allowed the Egyptian Army to intervene where Mubarak could not.
As it was, Obama did make speeches telling Mubarak to step down, so Mubarak was damned if he did and damned if he didn’t.
Without the high cost of food, the people of Egypt would have been too contented to follow the siren call of the Muslim Brotherhood.
Look at the Bolshevik revolution in Russia. The Bolshevik motto with which they led their Revolution was ‘Bread and Peace’. After the Bolsheviks took over, the Russian people had neither.
Even if one were to ignore the other measurements. The NASA numbers showed a 2/1000ths increase, which is statically irrelevant, and would not even be considered as part of the “margin of error”.
I meant to imply that EM loses because she used that argument.
I read Tarek Fatah’s twitter where he mentions that Muslim women have to have their face uncovered at the Mecca. So why not at the citizenship oath?