Words, actions

Dead right. The people who should be fighting these Thugs of Islam at the Muslims who maintain this is an aberration.

(As to Canadians shooting back: the lads we have there have been known to drop Thugs at 1500 yards and better... You can run but it better be a long way indeed.)

peterj >

Thats it in a nutshell, well said.

In general, the Yanks aren't that stupid. However, the scum he has imported will keep him president for life, especially since he ignores the law and the Constitution. He has surrounded himself with criminals and thugs. When Congress tries to rein him in, our communist and social media scream racism. This will not end well.

Marco

nice try, butt no cigar

Jordanians, Saudis, Egyptians, Israel and the Ukraine are being denied both intel and munitions help from obumbles. Once the bullets run out game over, unless the "underworld" starts supplying. I can also see the USA military stepping in and disobeying the retard (obumbles) and that could cause a riot amongst his LIV supporters. Civil war would clean up a lot of this mess, but it ain't civil!

peterj: "The "Arab spring" seems to have blossomed into a sea of unforeseen consequences with Assad starting to look pretty good compared to ISIS. Saddam, Gaddafi and Mubarak were the glue that kept it all together."

I think we had a historical lesson in the death of Tito and the breakup of Yugoslavia, but we don't learn from history.

Many including me believe ISIS digs their own grave as their actions become more depraved, though their religious bent sends those with less testicular fortitude than required scurrying to assist the apparent victims of Islamophobia.

Peter Bergen opines on the matter; not sure I agree with everything he says, but I think he is right here and our progressives need a big fat wake up call, which I think they'll get in the federal election. Why does ISIS keep making enemies?

"ISIS, like many other 'violent apocalyptic groups, tend to see themselves as participating in a cosmic war between good and evil, in which moral rules do not apply.'

"Virtually every major decision and law promulgated by the Islamic State (another name for ISIS) adheres to what it calls, in its press and pronouncements, and on its billboards, license plates, stationery, and coins, 'the Prophetic methodology,' which means following the prophecy and example of Muhammad, in punctilious detail. Muslims can reject the Islamic State; nearly all do. But pretending that it isn't actually a religious, millenarian group, with theology that must be understood to be combated, has already led the United States to underestimate it. Amen to that."

http://www.cnn.com/2015/02/16/opinion/bergen-isis-enemies/index.html

"The "Arab spring" seems to have blossomed into a sea of unforeseen consequences......"

Not entirely unforeseen there were plenty of critics that said exactly this, and many of us who have actually lived in the region agreed.

Whether they were going to call themselves ISIS or Smishis doesn't really matter, the region has been a hotbed of tribalism and hatred for a millennia.

The fact is these freaks weren't born in test tubes overnight after the so called "Arab Spring", they were always there. The only thing the Arab Spring accomplished was to open the animal cages that were being secured by the "Strong Men" of the region.

The Liberal left danced in the streets when Obamba set the ball in motion, while the rest of us on record said "Leave it the f*ck alone".

I agree with you - not my quote - the consequences were easily foreseen except to the most idealistic/blind observers. The warnings of allowing groups like the Muslim Brotherhood to take popular control were loud and clear. Even so, the Egyptian military didn't act on it until the people insisted MB be eliminated, given the first thing MB abandoned was democracy in favour of a brutal theocracy.

Ultimately IMHO it is the Muslims who must take out this Islamist threat, we can only degrade it.

"I agree with you - not my quote -"

Yup I know, just used your comment to spring board the rant. I agree with peterj as well.

"Ultimately IMHO it is the Muslims who must take out this Islamist threat, we can only degrade it." - Shamrock

I agree with this statement as well, except that we will never even degrade it much by using the tactic that have worked so brilliantly to date i.e spending billions randomly bombing, droning little dirt villages across the region while having an open border policy to any Muslim that screams about their civil rights.

We have real power - economic, educational, immigration, and technical power that can and should be used on the so called "moderates".

You starve them of western goods, educations, and immigration and they will come around fast.