In response;
BREAKING: Jordan to execute "within hours" jailed woman militant it had sought to swap for pilot killed by Islamic State: security source
— Reuters Top News (@Reuters) February 3, 2015
Hopefully, just the first shot.
Update: Jordan executes two in response to pilot's slaying
The second shot should be a large dose of Vitamin B52.
It'll come to that. And we can thank The Gutless, great and small, for it.
Their utter lack of humanity has seemingly no bottom. The lesson to everyone is to expect no quarter and therefore give no quarter. This is a war with no treaty at its' end.
Hostis humani generis.
There's nothing to be done but wipe these people out. It should be a global effort, with all civilized countries coming together to not just defeat, but kill every man in ISIS.
Yeah, like that would ever happen.
Not much sense killing a woman, as ISIS figures they are lower caste than sheep. Behead every male terrorist prisoner you have.
Jordan said initially they would kill ALL the ISIS prisoners they held if ISIS murdered their pilot,so don't back down,do it.
The only outrage will be from the msm.
What in Allah's name will it take for Western leaders to realise these guys aren't anything but barbaric savages?
While our politicians "reel" from the latest news, ISIS will slaughter more people.
It's time to get ugly, and keep the media the hell out of the battlefield. Lock 'em in a hotel 200 miles from the fighting and brief them daily, or else we will lose due to their weak-kneed bleating.
VDH: Why is anyone surprised, all is going according to plan:
http://www.nationalreview.com/article/397720/obama-does-have-strategy-victor-davis-hanson
The only example I can think of for unconditional surrender for a terrorist or terrorist insurgency is the Sri Lankans on the Tamil Tigers.
That was complete as far as I know.
Pose it to the SDA community, is there another example of this. ANd does ISIS even qualify since they are now trying to be a State actor, so is it about vanquishing them.
The US obtained a temporary stunning victory over the Taliban. The US will always win an outright guns a blazing battle (its what they do very very well). However they were not able to obtain a breaking of the moral spirit of the Taliban, which is what gets you the peace you need.
So is it possible to achieve unconditional surrender in the short or long run? How do you get ISIS into a situation where the breaking of their spirit can happen?
Look forward to the responses
As I posited below on the Folkfest thread the dialogue that we should be having is not about bombing them to oblivion in the ME but curtailing the spread that is happening day and daily in Western society. Today's Muslims were trained and taught by the remnants of the Nazi SS after the Second World War. The majority of Germans were not Nazis, they were cowed into submission by the zealots, and lied to by the German press which was controlled by Joseph Goebbels. The German Lebensraum of the Thirties will be as a test tube is to a cauldron if the West doesn't act before it is too late. As the Muslim population expands beyond the five to ten percentile we can expect to see more problems as is occurring in Europe. It would seem the appeasers within the hierarchy of today's Western Leaders learned nothing from Mr. Chamberlain.
Just for you, Stephen.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YCUDZ_N2B6w
Imagine the world outrage of screaching from the media if this had been a kitty or a dog. But it is but a human, probably a father, husband or another good person only following orders and trying to do his part to remove the world of garbage. If you never take the garbage out, the house begins to stink. It takes a leader to rid the world of garbage, sadly America has a petulant teenager running the show that won't take out the garbage.
Why is it that we civilians understand what it takes to win this war but our Generals and so called leaders don't? Everyone knows you can't talk with these scum and the only solution is to bomb them to allah and pave over the remnants. But we won't do what it takes to actually win.
Better yet, imagine the outrage if members of any other religion committed this atrocity.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aCbfMkh940Q
Maybe they can work something out with the Japanese too.
Ralph Peters for President!
"Not much sense killing a woman, as ISIS figures they are lower caste than sheep. Behead every male terrorist prisoner you have."
Seems like at least six of those animals will be put down. Good but still not enough.
As Ace says: Jordan, the last country with balls.
That being said, show the Jordanian Air Force running a train on her first and then execute her.
"What in Allah's name will it take for Western leaders to realise these guys aren't anything but barbaric savages?" The tipping point is approaching. If these guys ever get a small nuclear devise or a biological weapon, the west and the rest of the world will act and the middle east will be set ablaze. The Gods of war and the hounds of hell will put an end to this insanity.
If this...woman...had been successful in her suicide bombing mission, would she have been gifted with 72 virgins? Just wonderin'.
I'm thinkin', too, that they shouldn't be too quick in killing her - maybe if they could find a pig sty...
Join in and kill all the Gitmo dorks today.
"Imagine the world outrage of screaching from the media if this had been a kitty or a dog...sadly America has a petulant teenager running the show that won't take out the garbage."
Aye, and not just the media. Western society is full to the brim of effete sissies who vote for petulant, jug-headed teenagers.
"... keep the media the hell out of the battlefield. Lock 'em in a hotel 200 miles from the fighting and brief them daily, ..."
Oh no, and hell no. Let them roam free and tell them nothing except that no military equipment, material, or personnel will be risked to rescue them when they encounter the enemy.
Yes Sham, VHD says very well, and echoes my thinking on that scum bag obumbles
These savages like fire? give it to them. Gas is cheap now. Mix it with alumigel and serve hot and in large portions, otherwise known as Napalm.
Who the heck is trading and doing business with them, who's buying their oil and selling them food, ammunition, Japan's savage culture during WWII was similar in horrible atrocities, it took a no-prisoners fighting strategy and a couple of nukes to simmer them down.
Let them take care of their own, one way or another they will kill each other into submission.
We just need to keep them out.
Yop, if you remember the "Oil for Food" program then maybe this link will also clarify the answer to your question.
http://washington.cbslocal.com/2015/02/03/un-agency-investigating-photos-showing-isis-distributing-its-food/
Maybe this was why Justin was such a strong advocate for sending more humanitarian aid rather than sending our planes.
BREAKING: President Hussein Obama expressed concerns about the sharp increase in gas prices following the burning of Jordanian pilot by ISIS.
How many of these murderous scum of the earth are walking their arses off planes onto our soil every day, some even posing as refugees? What proof do we have the government is stopping immigration from Islamic states?
I'm thinking 72 male virgins wouldn't be a reward. Cooking and cleaning for all those children . . . more like punishment if you ask me.
"This ideology whatever it is". "This organization" - Obama still won't call it terrorism or Islam.
ABC News called them "militants" tonight.
Thanks kate. If only they could muster the fortitude.
Remember this story?
https://suite.io/paul-iddon/66t7285
richfisher >
"Join in and kill all the Gitmo dorks today."
Hey, don't forget little Omar in sitting on the taxpayer dime Alberta.
Love it! Talk about stones! Lol
@Nicola
I was watching the news the other day and heard OB say that 99.9% of Muslims are peaceful and share our values. Yup, 99.9%. Not 90% but 99.9%. Now THAT'S a crock of BS. I shook my head in amazement at the sheer ignorance of such a statement.
The fight isn't against a geographical entity, it's against an ideology, it's against devout islam.
Which passage in islam proscribes the burning of captives?
I don't know, but they are martyrs by their measurement, as well as those that die for their cause, in the mindset of those devoutly islamic, both sides in this conflict are martyrs.
I say we give them what they want, and leave burning villages and crying widows / children. Unless those widows / children were carrying bombs or supplies for the fighting, then they become the fighters as well...
Previous post should have been set as a reply to stephen @ 8:45
link to islamic martyrdom:
http://islamqa.info/en/151904
"If these guys ever get a small nuclear devise or a biological weapon, the west and the rest of the world will act and the middle east will be set ablaze."
No. The West doesn't have the will, not even when faced with a clear and unambiguous threat. Too scared of offending the feelings of people who have declared themselves our mortal enemies and want us dead.
Russia and China get it, regardless of whatever else you think about their politics. So does Jordan, now, apparently.
Both Colonels Peters and Hunt are right. We have to get serious about killing them and leaving a smoking ruins. These people are inhuman savages.
But what do we get, leadership that wants to give in to radical Islam. Meanwhile, as we saw in UC Davis in California, the radical Islamist and their leftie coalition partners have taken over that university. Daily, around North America and in Europe we are hearing about incidents like this. Obviously they feel strong enough to challenge our system.
The Assyrians were the original barbaric terrorists. Their empire vanished. Do you know who their descendants are? Think about it.
terror is a universal political means http://waltherpragerandphilosophy1.blogspot.ro/2015/01/terror-against-terror.html
Running a train on the goats would be more sanitary. Go in and kill them, plain and simple. no prisoners that can go to Gitmo for R&R before going back to fight. The west and the rest of the coalition do not have to resort to the extreme crap that ISIS and ALL Muslim extremists do, just kill them.
If Jordan is mad enough to go at them, help out with equipment and such. In this case a strong letter of condemnation will not do.
The Assyrians of Ninevah -- isn't that now part of the northern Iraqi Kurds area? So, would the Kurds be the descendents of the Assyrians Lorenzo?
Time to use fire for fire - napalm would be a good retaliation !
"After ISIS execution, angry King Abdullah quotes Clint Eastwood to U.S. lawmakers"
http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/after-isis-execution-angry-king-abdullah-quotes-clint-eastwood-to-u.s.-lawmakers/article/2559770
Stephen said: "So is it possible to achieve unconditional surrender in the short or long run? How do you get ISIS into a situation where the breaking of their spirit can happen?"
I seem to recall the Germans, the Italians and the Japanese giving unconditional surrenders in the 1940's. Japan after a couple of mushrooms grew. Pretty expensive though. We're still paying for it in a zillion small ways, every day.
I don't know the answers. However I will say that the King of Jordan does seem to understand the nature of his adversaries. Barack Hussein Obama by contrast does not seem to care, his arrogant self assurance that he can condescendingly talk these people down (or buy them) is really rather pathetic.
No ISIS prisoner, save one, should be kept alive as it is too much of a risk to spare them.
With the "lucky" survivor, try him in military court, starting with the grotesque offenses against children and women, and publish this in every form of media. Try and execute the b@$#@rd. Then, as with the Thuggees, execute them.
It is the only way.
We can be fairly sure that the uncertainty will only last until something major happens in the west. Either a mass killing or a attack on infrastructure that leaves no doubt we are at war. Only then will we shake off the political correctness and get serious about taking out the garbage. So far we've only had a few teasers but can be certain that there are people out there that are planning something big, messy and memorable. It will come because they only have to get lucky once and they have the resources, the patience and the disregard for life. Ours and their own. Only then will the ignorant public recognize the fact that we are at war. From that point on, what Obama says will mean nothing if he tries to peddle the same politically correct bullshit he is now famous for because even most democrats will turn their back on him if he tries to veto a call for actual war. Sadly I feel that day is getting closer because the enemy knows full well that the easiest picking will be while Obama is in office. A Chamberlain is much easier to deal with than a Churchill.
And Obama sits trembling under his desk mumbling about"this organization".Operation dessert storm 2 take no prisoners.