In a "Nutshell"

Yeah... but because I smoke I'm a burden to the health care system. Right.

So how does an unvaccinated child cause a vaccinated child to get ill?
Just cant work it out .

All the comments in media about the anti vaxer movement of a while ago ignores the fact that the recent spread of these disease is related to the millions of undocumented and un-vaccinated illegals that the democrats flooded North America with.

Ahh, the state forcing folk to get injections.
What could go wrong?

"So how does an unvaccinated child cause a vaccinated child to get ill?"

It doesn't. That's the point.qx7

The cartoon ironically illustrates the "science" on the mandated vaccination side. The pandemic "peanut" allergy problem has been theorized to be an unintended consequence of having peanut oil proteins in the suspension fluid of the vaccines....nothing to see here citizen.

Vaccines are absolutely a wonderful thing to give a child and I have made sure my kids have every vaccine they need. Still, government making vaccinations mandatory is a large step towards totalitarianism. You can make vaccinations mandatory in order to attend public school and I'm OK with that, but the idea of the government forcing any medical procedure on us, no matter how good it is for us, is wrong. We cannot protect everyone from the consequences of their own stupidity.

Pro-choice argument in abortion: a woman's body is hers to control. Everyone else, butt out.

Pro-choice argument in vaccination: ______________

No double standards here. Move along.

I was afraid of this.

You can thank Global Warming for the idiocy of the anti-immunization crowd. When scientists threw their credibility out to appease the socialists of the global warming crowd, people began to (rightfully) regard them and their work with suspicion and contempt. The problem is that not only was 'climate science' regarded with skepticism...everything else they did was called into question too. People are doing the exact same thing with science that they did with religion - they're throwing the baby out with the bath water!

Back in the 70's and 80's people got fed up with the hucksters and shysters of Christianity. The holy rollers, the televangelists - all of them were given the boot they rightfully deserved - but people threw out their morals and ethics too. They placed all their trust in science - and that is where the hucksters and shysters have come to dwell as a result. Give David Suzuki and Fat Al Gore all your money, you zombie mutts! They'll do your thinking for you, they'll tell you what to say and all will be well!!!

And of course - when that little scam became public knowledge, people threw out the charlatans again - and along with it, the Scientific Method that established the basics of microbiology and immunology.

Stupid people that can't think for themselves are now in a quandary: they can't trust the clergy, they can't trust the scientists...and they aren't smart enough to trust themselves. Whom is to think and speak for them and lead them?

"if you do not vaccinate your children then you should have to sign a waiver saying you are opting out of healthcare entirely." This was part of the twitty thing, if it was that easy to get out of mandatory "healthcare" everyone would be doing it.

As wonderful as the idea of a vaccine is to prevent disease, I can't dismiss the concerns of anti-Vaccination crowd especially when the World Health Organization has been caught using Vaccines for sterilization. I also don't buy the effectiveness of flu vaccines, I've known to many people who have gotten sick directly after getting them.

I don't trust the government and I don't trust the UN

I don't quite get the idea that vaccines have to be an all or nothing proposition. I base my decisions to vaccinate based on acceptable and unacceptable risk. I would say that jumping out of a high flying aircraft with out a parachute as being an unacceptable risk while going ice skating without a helmet as being an acceptable risk. Polio and smallpox are unacceptable risks. Childhood measles, mumps are acceptable risks. Not that I want kids to get the measles or mumps but rather I know that if you get the diseases while young your overall health risk is very low while if the vaccine wears off as it seams is common in young adults the health risk is much higher. A year ago or so we had a measles outbreak in Edmonton. The medical advise was, "If you are of a certain age you are immune because you had the disease as a kid. If on the other you have only been vaccinated you should stay away because you are at risk of getting the disease."

Travis, you can't get sick from the dead FLU vaccine.

My kids quite commonly had peanut butter on toast at breakfast, sometimes taking a peanut butter sandwich to school, sometimes Ben would have Superstore's President's Choice Spicy Peanut Satay Sauce on rice for breakfast. I recall telling him that none of the girls in his grades 2.. 3.. 4.. classes would be kissing him with that much garlic on his breath.
He said he doesn't care.

So, if you don't want to drop dead from some sort of shock after kissing Ben, simply don't kiss him, and your precious angel will return about 4 pm, same as always.

I don't mind so much if parents decide to not have their kids immunised, I do mind paying for the results though. Just let those folks opt out of government medicine and we'll all get along..

Am I right here, Measles can cause pregnant women to have complications during pregnancy. German Measles (Rubella), can cause birth defects. Anti Vaxers, LOSERS.

I am enjoying watching all the UN-immunized parents and children all falling ill. So they can experience the natural result of their ... resistance of Western medicine. One of my fellow suburbanites just infected a whole BART train ... nice ! IDIOTS.

The older I get, the less I am sure about. A year ago, I was a smug, pro-vaxer that thought anti-vaxers were tin-foil hat wearing morons. After all, having two degrees (BSc and BEd) and being a science teacher didn't leave me much room for doubt. What changed my mind, or at least made me a luke-vaxer? A little objective research (thimerosal, 1976 Swine Flu Debacle, CDC, WHO, Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation,UN, Autism, Eugenics)and the fact that I just don't trust the track record and culture of death of so many of the people in charge in this world. I know it's just anecdotal, but I have two nephews and two grand-nephews with autism and a 19 year old son with undiagnosed Aspergers. Yes, correlation does not mean causation, but what else could it be that is causing all the autism? Give me an alternative hypothesis. I had a huge argument with my wife when I "forgot" (intentionally) to get my flu vaccine for the first time in 19 years (she works in health care), but I insisted in not getting it this year. It turns out I am the only one in our family of five that did not get the flu vaccine and I am the only one who did not get sick. All the pro-vaccination people who refuse to look at the other side of the argument are starting to remind me of climate change alarmists.

The problem with the Vaxers is that they like to conflate measles and polio vaccines with flu vaccines.
They also trust the government too much.

I never had any measles vaccination for any type of measles until I was an adult who was forced to get these vaccinations by a government agency in order to qualify for admission to a specific program. None of the other people who were admissions but not in my program at the institution had to be screened for these shots(polio too, but I already had that vaccination). I had to get the measles shots even though I had lived my life all over Canada and gone to numerous schools, I had never caught the measles or mumps and I had never been vaccinated.

That said, conflating measles and other vaccinations, which are once-in-a-lifetime, with flu shots, which are annual, totally undermines everything the Vaxers have to say about the issue.
Go ahead Vaxers, line up for that FLU shot that the government is just waiting to give you so that they can put you down. The Elites don't need us anymore, we're just using up their planet with their resources.

Look- childhood vaccines work. If they didn't, one would not be here complaining about it.

One must inject an allergen in order to be badly affected by it.

The anti-science crowd's paranoia would be quite amusing if it wasn't so injurious and annoying.

>"Look- childhood vaccines work. If they didn't, one would not be here complaining about it."

One what? Conflating flu vaccines with childhood vaccines, tsk tsk. Learn the difference. The second panel of the cartoon doesn't specify the type of vaccine.
I'm thinking there is a reason for that.

>"One must inject an allergen in order to be badly affected by it."

Define 'badly'.

>"The anti-science crowd's paranoia would be quite amusing if it wasn't so injurious and annoying."

Sounds like exactly the same thing that I've heard from Warmists many a time.
Scientists lie, and lying politicians care not a wit for you or anyone but themselves after Islamic immigration is considered.

There you go again, calling anti-vaxers anti-science, just like the warmers calling the skeptics anti-science. Stop it. Virtually all anti-vaxers understand the science of immunity acquisition and would take the vaccines if they trusted the people in charge. Remember Ted Turner's comment that the population needs to be reduced to 500 million? They don't even try to hide it any more. They are part of a neo-pagan anti-human death cult. Who are "they"? Do the research yourself.

Had the mumps. Had the chicken pox. Had the red measles. Had the german measles. So did most of the kids I went to school with. Don't know what the big deal is.

If vaccinations are supposed to make you immune then get them. Then you don't have to worry about those who don't.

Oh, and there are others that should be banned from the health care system if those who don't get vaccinated are. Fat people, smokers, drinkers, those who speed, those who sky dive, those who ski, those who go to any third world country, those who eat at a fast food restaurant, those that eat at any restaurant, those who pick up hitch hikers, those who don't brush their teeth, those who drink tap water. That's about all. Everyone can have it.

http://articles.latimes.com/2001/jul/23/health/he-25555

This article helps explain the point I was alluding to.

Glitches Are Harder to Detect in Sperm

With men, the biology is quite different because the testes keep producing new sperm cells throughout a man's life. "There are more chances in a male for things to go wrong because there are more cell divisions," Crow says. By age 15, sperm cells have undergone roughly 35 cell divisions. By age 20, it's 150; by 40, it's 610, and by 50, 840--hundreds of opportunities, in other words, for tiny glitches in DNA copying that result in "point mutations," or defects in a single gene.

someone who's child has been vaccinated does not have to worry or care if another child is not vaccinated.

This is such a vitriolic debate on the anti-anti-vaxxer side.
My children are not and will not be vaccinated, because of a large body of evidence provided by medical doctors... Not homeopaths and the like... actual medical doctors who have seen too many young children that display autism signs almost immediately following vaccination.

"someone who's child has been vaccinated does not have to worry or care if another child is not vaccinated"

The reason why we all need to worry and care about children not being vaccinated is because each unvaccinated person establishes a point of entry for a disease into the broader community, which then provides a platform for the disease to spread more broadly than it would otherwise and infect those people who are highly susceptible (i.e. those who can't be vaccinated for a variety of reasons).

Unvaccinated people are protected by the herd immunity established by those of us who are vaccinted. If enough people choose not to be vaccinated, herd immunity fails and easily preventable, highly contagious diseases re-establish themselves. This means more suffering, disabilities and death - all of which are, again, easily preventable.

@phantom

You can't argue with the anti-vaxxers. Years ago their collective idiocy caused the worst pertussis outbreak in 70 years in the American Northwest, resuluting in otherwise preventable deaths, mostly infants who were too young to be vaccinated. The rate of vaccination in the affected communities moved not one bit afterward. Even when confronted with the horrible results of their actions they don't change. They don't care. They don't learn. They don't listen. Even when their kids start getting polio again they won't admit they were wrong.

If only we forced people to give up their guns, there would be no children dying from accidental shootings or stolen guns.... think of the children, give up your guns or we will take them from you.Every death from guns is totally prevenatble, there ought to be a law............