Rebel Media from Ezra and Brian and True North Report from Faith Goldy.
Personally, what I'll miss most about Sun was their news coverage, especially the political coverage. Battleground was simply the best show on TV and no one came close to their level of commitment at the provincial level.











I caught Sun News in the act of waaaay too much narrative manufacturing in their "news" coverage to miss it. They were Canada's conservative equivalent of Jon Stewart or Bill Maher: good at commenting on the news and mocking their ideological opponents, but truth and unbiased reporting was not their stock in trade. They never could decide if they wanted to be a hardhitting right-leaning news organization or a rallying pole for their tribe. I suspect that turned off a lot of people who wanted one of those but not the other.
It was no mistake that SUN TV was killed prior to the 2015 Federal election.
We wanted it all, Daniel - not just the facts but the whole (un)biased truth! It seems that the others could dish it out but were incapable of swallowing anything fact based. They had their MSNBC and a half dozen others, we wanted something to call home.
...good at commenting on the news and mocking their ideological opponents, but truth and unbiased reporting was not their stock in trade. ..."
Like Fife and Solomon?
Sorry Daniel...Sun got to the facts and grit...and covered what the lazy ones intentionally missed.
Annoying at times...but that was part of the package. Better than those ear ticklers.
The irony is that Sun News Network was FAR more thorough and concerned with *facts* than any other in the Canadian media. David Akin was excellent at covering the news and as non-partisan as any I've seen.
CBC is all about CBC and how it 'speaks for Canadians,' while its writers and newscasters pretend that Canadians all think the same.
Yes, chutzpahticular, Sun had to be. There were too many willing to line up and throw rocks if they got the basics of their reporting wrong.
It was easy to slut-shame Ezra, Michael and Brian. Not so much the reporters and news anchors. Although they tried..."sleeveless female newsies, OMG, the story must be wrong!"
Always enjoyed Ezra as he was the perfect foil and counterbalance to 'anointed Media' who 'speak for Canadians' and exposed the hypocrisy of their shuttered thinking.
Brian Lilley gave insightful analysis to the current topics du jour.
I look forward to "REBEL MEDIA" should have some bite.
I'm sure Faith Goldy will land on her feet, she can always be counted on to have a good level of outrage on the latest twaddle peddled off as 'balanced news reporting'.
I'll never forget the Sun News girls sleeves are too short controversy! Next thing the feminazis will assert is they are hiking up their dresses on the internet.
I wish them all much success!
Cheers
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1st Saint Nicolaas Army
Army Group 'True North'
A monetized website, monetized you-tube channel, maybe a Netflix deal, other online content providers like Amazon TV, Google TV, etc...
I'm very glad to see the two hardest hitters at rebel.media.
Personally, I found the most annoying thing about the Sun News Network to be the commercials every few minutes that would last forever. That and the repetitiveness of the prime programming. The quality of their productions could have been better although they were getting better of late.
Having said that, I will miss the SNN, wort's and all. They provided something different in the way of news reporting that was refreshing and not so cookie cutter like the rest of the lame stream media. The "establishment" poo hoo'd Fox News when it started up and now it is rated in the top in many categories in spite of Obambam ignoring and dissing it.
Sorry to see you go Sun.
Sorry, Old Aquarian, but I caught Sun News memory holing their own coverage of controversial stories when the facts contradicted the populist narrative they were pushing, and quietly ignoring inconvenient details that came to light in other outlets if they didn't serve the narrative. They were no different than other news media outlets in Canada in that regard.
And that's fine. There's no such thing as factual unbiased news from anyone, not Sun, not Fox, not anybody. SNN served as a valuable counterpoint to the monolithic bias on the other side of the spectrum. That alone was valuable, and had they found a better business model - perhaps based on the brand "We're Sun News, and we go after Liberal and NDP malfeasance with tooth and claw while largely ignoring the CPC" they might have done better. When you claim truth and factual reporting, you kind of have to not be so inept at hiding your own manipulations of the news that passing amateurs like me can spot it.
Exactly, Lance, and its election coverage was always first rate.
I agree with Daniel.. I watched SNN when it first came on, and I wanted it to be good, I really wanted it to!
But the truth was, I couldn't stand watching it (I can't stand watching CNN, MSNBC, or Fox News in the US, either). Amateurish at times, bombastic at others, rarely engaging.
Now that I think about it, I rarely watch any TV news these days. I read the paper, and get the details off the net. I don't need Lisa Laflamboyant or Peter Manspittle or any other bingo caller telling me what's important.
SUN should have teamed up with Beck to begin with. Screw cable, it'll be dead in 5 years. Once netflix joins sony and slingbox with their internet based live tv service it's over. No more can shaw and robbers raise your damn bill every damn month.
"I'll never forget the Sun News girls sleeves are too short controversy!"
Yeah, I remember that...Tasha Kheiriddin and Rick Mercer were scandalized. :)
"They never could decide if they wanted to be a hardhitting right-leaning news organization or a rallying pole for their tribe. I suspect that turned off a lot of people who wanted one of those but not the other."
Maybe. But after decades of having absolutely nothing in common with the pathetic, politically correct, baby-shit coming out of CBC, CTV and Global, I wanted both. Sun News was my "Holy Shit! There are other people who think and act like me!"
The only reason I get any TV channels at all is because the bundle was cheaper than paying for telephone and cable separately. And I don't watch any of them, just leave the set on the Weather Channel so there is no dead air when I turn it on to watch a DVD. I started my day by going to the Sun News website when I could watch Brian, Ezra, Michael and all the rest on my schedule.
My only criticism of any of the commentators was Ezra's interviewing technique. I took a media relations course years ago and was told never to state my opinion and then ask for an agree or disagree from the interviewee. Ezra did that consistently, One should ask a short question, get the answer and then debate as necessary!
I look forward to the resurrection of Sun News in its Rebel guise and I hope it lives long and prospers!
Yeah, Ezra's interviewing skills could have used a little refining.
I always found a little cringe-worthy when (about once a show) he'd do something like say, "OK, we only have about 30 seconds left and I'd like to get your comment on [something]. As you know, there is this issue with [whatever]. I personally believe [yadda, yadda, yadda]..." [fill up about 25 seconds talking about his opinion and why it is justified]..."What you have to say?"
Still though...good times.
Have to disagree with a lot of the commentators here in their criticism of SUN NEWS. For an upstart news channel they did a remarkable job on a very limited budget. The fact that the CRTC would not grant them a common carriage license was a Pierre Trudeau salute to free speech and democracy. They did more hardcore reporting on a limited budget than CBC, Global and CTV combined. As for Ezra and Brian at REBEL and Faith at TRUE NORTH perhaps they should join forces right off the bat and bring in some of the other ex-employees under the banner of REBEL NORTH.
"Maybe. But after decades of having absolutely nothing in common with the pathetic, politically correct, baby-shit coming out of CBC, CTV and Global, I wanted both. Sun News was my "Holy Shit! There are other people who think and act like me!"
I agree wholeheartedly. But, you forgot one descriptor when describing CBC, CTV, and Global, and that being liberal biased. As if, and what the Liberals always claim, that you are not a good Canadian if you do not accept the Laurentian Elite view of Canadian politics.
The demise of Sun News is partially the fault of the Conservative government in not making sure that all "news" media have equal treatment. It is also funny that the CBC continues to be allowed to milk the public purse. Too many progressives in the current government.
I also agree with Aviator that Sun News be resurrected in some form.
I signed up with True North Report and just got the linked email.
http://us10.campaign-archive2.com/?u=79bda18514415d82935841285&id=e40e83cfd3&e=21397f9fa9
I miss Sun News already, I have since they were forced to stop production. The only good news coming from Sun News being bullied off the air is the fact that I have cancelled my cable... no longer supporting the CRTC's cartel of "progressive" Laurentian elitist gangsters. Very glad to hear that Ezra is not giving up and that he realizes how much an alternative voice is needed to counter the incessant leftist bullying, brainwashing and mind numbing conformity. Perhaps Sun News being bullied off the air by the progressive media cartel and their gatekeepers encrusted in the CRTC will hasten the end of the monopolized cable system as we know it... one can hope.
I can't beleive they said that the sun news didnt have hot enough women.
I would marry faith goldy she is soooo hot, gina philips,lots of hotties at sun news marisa semkew
i know many in here will say the y signed up and say they will pay but they wont it\s just talk to them . i will , i will pay for both TNR and rebel tv ....thats a fact it's time to put my money where my mouth is.
Lets all pray that out of these ashes rises an even stronger phoenix. They already know what mistakes they made , the next news channel will be better. Plus there won't be as much political interference is my bet.
One thing conservatives are good at is eating their own.
When sun news was on air everyone was quiet, when Kate or lance posted countless sun news articles and videos on here no one complained about Ezra being grating, or how unprofessional it was , as a matter of fact when the federal election was held lot of people complimented sun news on their coverage.
Now that sun news is off the air just listen to conservatives feast on the carcass, of how pathetic ,shat, horrible sun news was, how annoying Ezra was, there is almost a sort of glee among the right leaning folks on SDA that sun news went down.
Pathetic losers all of you. for all of the welfare sets (which i thought we fine and would improve with time) for all the frothing that Ezra did (which i never got that from him maybe some sensationalizing certain issues but nothing outrageous and worthy of switching the channel)
For all of the supposed things that sun news got "wrong" they sure as hell created alot of raised eyebrows , you don't think sun news had a hand in the Indian transparency act after uncovering the atawapaskat debacle?
You dont think they caught attention from across the country from the gun grabbers?
All of this would have been buried by the other news outlets.
All of the wynne dalton stuff i would never have herd about it if it wasn't for sun news.
For the rag tag low budget welfare garabage they supposedly spew they sure did make the other news outlets nervous.
They sure did hit where is hurts to the losers on the left.
How is the trinity western bigotry of the left NOT news worthy ? how is that not a trampling of the religious freedoms of Christians? oh yeah they are Christians to most in here its perfectly fine to ignore religious freedom when it comes to Christians.
Or Nanimos blatant hatred and bigotry towards a Christians group and that wasa friken city council almost unanimously acting this way.
But that is not news worthy, but hey wafer gate was definitely newsworthy right?
Conservatives in Canada sadly are like libertarians in Canada mostly just in name only.
The comments on this and the other postings about sun news going down are my evidence. Like conservatives always say if you don't like it that's perfectly fine, criticize it what ever change the channel and don't watch it. but don't be cheerful and happy that your only news outlet (no matter how bad you thought it was) went down and many people blame the network and Ezra rather than the elephant in the room that they were denied the very same thing every other news station got when they started was the nail in the coffin and sun news acknowledged it the instant they were denied. they were doomed. that and only that was the reason that sun news went under not to mention they were not included in the other package that was included in the gov funding.
I am willing to bet that the cbc,ctv,global would all fold with in 2 years if the gov and CRTC cut them all loose to sink or swim on their own like they did to sun news. it was rigged from the start and to see the ignorance of comments in here makes me wonder about a bigger problem in Canada do supposed conservatives actually know what it means to be conservative?
Like i said we are very good at eating our own in hopes of getting into the big liberal cool tent. You just dont get it, they hate you, everything about you as a conservative yet so many in here will align themselves with liberals at the drop of a hat rather than rally around each other and support each other.
I'll close by saying there was 1 and only 1 reason sun news failed. The CRTC wanted them to, so they made it so.
Anyone who disagrees should probly vote for the liberals or ndp in the next election because you are certainly not a conservative.
As it says at the top of every page at SDA under the 'About Kate' section of the masthead, we are told many times "what Canadians think", but some of us realize "you don't speak for me." The sheep seem to think if they are told this or that is "what Canadians think" then it must be true.
Why is it soooo many seem to think that CBC, CTV, Global, etc report the facts. They all have a bias. News papers and news magazines have always been started to report a bias. Years ago I read an editorial by the editor of the Vancouver Sun where she clearly stated that she felt it was her's and the job of the entire staff to 'shape opinion" in everything the did. It couldn't have been spelled out any more plainly.
It seems that Daniel, in the first comment on this thread, has missed it at the non-Sun outlets. I quit watching the other news programmes before SNN was even announced as a network. The bias on those old staples was just dripping off each sentence, but with the connotation that it was not biased but rather just straight facts.
And please don't compare the on air personalities at SNN to Maher or Stewart.
I agree Paul. Conservatives don't seem to be an accepting bunch. They seem to be very much 'it's my way or the highway.' Now that SNN is gone they feel they can express their embarrassment at not being as cool as the 'progressive' media. Shameful.
I'm sure you mis-typed when you wrote "All of this would have been buried by the other news outlets." Because the others DID bury those stories. That's why I'll miss SNN. They reported what the others wouldn't
If you're reading Ezra and Brian .... I'll put up a modest $$ amount, as a Canadian Conservative, to see you set up some sort of model, other than TV, as long as you consider Kate as guest from time to time. We need a voice.
bverwey
So a TV business is impossible without bureaucratic blessing, only took Sun TV 4 years to prove that.
So a real conservative government might abolish the whole rancid government enforced monopoly game?
With or without Sun TV canadian media will continue to decline, it is impossible to bring viewers/readers back from the internet, once they find out you have been lying by omission.
Canada apparently leads the world for citizens gathering their news from online sources, this would have nothing to do with the sneering slime bags who feel they must "condition" the news for us stupid taxpayers.Right?
Sun was a blast of fresh air, Ezra on a tear is hugely entertaining and informative.
As Oatmeal Savage said;" Peter Mansbridge told us a fat lady was on week 4 of a hunger strike.. Ezra Levant counted her chins".
That is the Ezra effect.
The current media and our institutional socialists (the left) are crusted on parasites, their canadian way is to live large on the earning of other peoples word, of course they hate (fear and despise) those they freeload upon.
When one is dependent upon government handouts, one will not challenge anything the government desires.
And all our TV media bows to their masters, that CRTC.
And do not mistake those elected characters for those who rule and regulate you.
Yes minister was not a comedy.
A wilfully obstructive civil service can outlast and out manoeuvre any body of elected men.
Beware liberal trolls the conservative phoenix has risen
Paul in Calgary;
Very good points!
Sun TV addressed issues in this country that other media did not. They exposed some of the corruption that exists and now that voice is silent. The CPC has failed to rein in the CRTC the same way they have failed with the CBC. I suggest that if PM Harper had even sat down with SUN TV on a quarterly basis for a 'family' chat with Canadians it might have made a difference. He had no problem doing that for the CBC who hate him and his party.
As I said before the failure of SUN TV before the federal election is critical for the left. This election will be media driven and now the field will be dominated by those who are intent in seeing the CPC defeated. SUN TV might have countered what we will see but not now.
As noted in other thread today-
David Akin on cfra.com now with Mark Sutcliffe 08:05 am eastern.
What I do know for certain is that I miss SNN very much. I miss
Ezra, I miss Brian, I miss the entire gang at Sun News and I
sincerely hope they can resurrect themselves because the country
needs an alternate media voicing the other side of a story. The
demise of SNN is a perfect example of not appreciating something
until it is lost.