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Why shouldn't we insult a religion of hate? Insulting a religion of love and peace, like Christianity is wrong, but a religion of hate like Islam needs to be exposed.
Let's hope they remember that the next time they're screaming 'Death to the Jews!' or 'Infidels must die!'.
Or is consistency too much to ask for?
According to progressives, I am supposed to catch up to their belief system which I don't share, but also respect a religion that is further back and doesn't even share my belief system, let alone theirs.
This makes me dizzy on those rare occasions when I give a rat's ass what they think.
Someone needs to tell these people that respect is earned and that they should feel lucky to be allowed into a culture that is superior to the one for which they espouse and demand respect. Canada is a nation of infidels, free speech for all and equality of gender and if they don't find a way to confine their pathology to the private realm, they should not only expect earned disrespect but also widespread derision. Canadian infidels will not submit to the seventh century retrograde theocracy demanded by your so-called prophet. In short, F..k you very much!
The reason for not insulting their religion should be the same reason for not insulting anyone: that you would choose not to insult them. Which would be nice of you, as long as that is a choice you make freely.
The reason for disagreeing with their wish that you should be prohibited that freedom to insult them is that it is inseparable from the freedom to make the good choice, i.e. not insulting them. That's the defect in the Moslem way of thinking, they want coercion on their side. (And that's at the root of the political left's tendency to side with the Islamists, they believe their ideas are Good and therefore everyone should go along with them voluntarily and those who don'e should be forced to go along.)
Liberman said that Western Europe like France is main problem,because they voted Israeli back to border before 1967. Canada sold $10 billion army weapon to Saudi Arabi. Saudi Arabia has planned to put price of oil down to hurt Iran oil. Saudi built big borden and new structure building water and high cleaning tools to welcome more tourist. Saudi may pass his weapons recently buy throughh yeman to hellp ISIS to use radical Muslim come up to kill its citizen who are against Saudi rejim in Isis battle and make muddy river to bring Iran and Syria to get killed by Saudi new weapon buy from US and Canada. Saudi pay to destroy shia and Iraninan and anti Saudi rejim destroy islam by use Isis by join by Yeman and Isis soldure to hit. France for against Israeli border. Ok this is two faces more complicated because at end radical Musllim defame Islam and Muslim state ve jewish Isreali state and kill more shia and save border of Saudi by reduce oil but not change islam laws to act more civilized. This is hurt Muslims.
Liberman said that Western Europe like France is main problem,because they voted Israeli back to border before 1967. Canada sold $10 billion army weapon to Saudi Arabi. Saudi Arabia has planned to put price of oil down to hurt Iran oil. Saudi built big borden and new structure building water and high cleaning tools to welcome more tourist. Saudi may pass his weapons recently buy throughh yeman to hellp ISIS to use radical Muslim come up to kill its citizen who are against Saudi rejim in Isis battle and make muddy river to bring Iran and Syria to get killed by Saudi new weapon buy from US and Canada. Saudi pay to destroy shia and Iraninan and anti Saudi rejim destroy islam by use Isis by join by Yeman and Isis soldure to hit. France for against Israeli border. Ok this is two faces more complicated because at end radical Musllim defame Islam and Muslim state ve jewish Isreali state and kill more shia and save border of Saudi by reduce oil but not change islam laws to act more civilized. This is hurt Muslims.
Guess who gets to determine what's an insult and what's not?
There is no story here.
These Muslims in Saskatoon are perfectly within their rights to protest against Charlie Hebdo and you all know that very well.
Everyone in a free society has the right to protest against whatever they find offensive, including Charlie Hebdo (which goes out of its way to be quite deliberately offensive).
What no one has a right to do if they are offended is to attack the premises of Charlie Hebdo and murder its staff.
doug, I have a friend who was in the Irish army special squads routing out IRA peace full katholic types, he would , as I will, disagree with your nonsensical statement as to the solely peace full nature of Christianity, so would the American Jew who was shot to death by the kristian terrorist who hijacked an American airliner in Beirut in 1972, or the Jews of the polish village (about 1500 of them) who were killed by their katholic neighbours, who also numbered about 1500. You kristians always ignore the bad elements in your midst, which kinda reminds me of what you's always accuse the moderate muslims of doing. And dougy, I could expand on the list, and a lot at that!
So it's your contention that IRA terrorists did what they did because they were Catholics? Prove it.
(I won't address the other 2 accusations, they are entirely lacking in any specifics and are only a crude smear.)
As to the topic. Islam means submission. Unearned respect of Islam is submission to Islam.
"...the images, which he sees as the root cause or provocation of the violence."
They just don't get it. So much for the notion of "moderate Muslims".
Uh, the difference is, you can find nothing in Christian scripture that condones such behaviour. The imperfections of Christians can't be blamed on Christ.
Christianity is about free will, either believe, or don't believe. It's on your head...
I see 75 ISIS supporters that need deporting.
I think there is a difference between "love thy neighbour" and "slay the unbelievers".
The troubles in Ireland were political. The IRA didn't want to convert the protestants to Catholicism, they wanted Northern Ireland to break political ties with Great Britain, aka 'home rule'.
The simple reality is that the current wave of extremist terrorism in the world is overwhelmingly Islamic in nature.
Those attempting to play the moral relativism game have to go to extraordinary lengths to fish around for comparable - and contemporary - "Christian" examples.
That's because, substantively, there are none.
Denialism helps absolutely no one, least of Muslims who represent (ironically) the greatest number of victims of Islamist violence by far.
Sorry, my last should have read: "...least of all Muslims..."
Good. We believe in free speech.
Your belief doesn't allow free speech.
Mustaan, we got a problem.
Oz "So it's your contention that IRA terrorists did what they did because they were Catholics?"
Duh! It's hard to ignore the obvious, but feel free.
Duh! It's hard to ignore the obvious
Correct; they did it because the Protestants have all the houses.
Please point to Catholics attacking Protestants(or other religions) with terrorism in other countries as proof of your implied contention.
If the IRA were driven by a Catholic prerogative then we should be seeing this happening elsewhere.
And NO I am not pro-Catholic.
My contention is that the IRA did what they did because of wanting a united Irish republic.
Political motivation behind it is what I'm saying.
Someone in the media simply MUST ask Justin Trudeau if he will consider the implementation of Sharia law for Muslims in Canada,when he is elected Prime Minister.
The mutual **** sucking between Trudeau and the Muslim community indicates promises have been made.
Should Canadians suffer an acute attack of mental retardation and elect the Messiah, we can expect a lot more of these type of demonstrations,and they won't be near as peaceful.
He asks: "Since when (did) it become a freedom to insult people?"
Since the dawn of Western civilization, a lot longer than your rabid religion. Someone should set these people straight about Western Civ before they come.
Why are they not protesting Muslim hate speech against non-muslims?
Jesus and the apostles did not launch murderous raids and exterminations on their enemies. I don't think commands to kill enemies exist in the New Testament.
He asks: "Since when (did) it become a freedom to insult people?"
-- I bet this guy hates Don Rickles.
It's always been a right exercise free speech. We were all born free.
When did it become a right to not have to tolerate another's speech?
Oz "My contention is that the IRA did what they did because of wanting a united Irish republic."
Yes and they were going to kill every frigging Protestant that got in their way. I suspect much of the IRA killed people because they enjoyed killing people. Over the years I've met couple of these Irish Nationalist types, in Canada, and they are truly disturbed. Ranting and raving like lunatics - they didn't like me very much.
They who define "insult" win the game. A well-reasoned treatise on the facts of Islam and Islamic society, written by someone who is not a Muslim, would result in an insult as surely as would a crude cartoon. They aren't just against cartoons--they will accept no criticism of the prophet.
But I think they are a non-prophet society anyway!
No.Those who move the venue from a place where definitions matter to a place where definitions don't matter tend to win the game.. unfortunately.
" I suspect much of the IRA killed people because they enjoyed killing people"
Me too. But I hope you agree that they didn't do the killing because they were Catholic, however much they killed the people they did mostly because they were Protestant. I'm sure many of the British soldiers they killed weren't even religious types at all.
The IRA was going to kill anyone who got in their way, Protestant, Catholic, Jew or Muslim.
Paul said: "I see 75 ISIS supporters that need deporting."
I see 75 guys dumb enough to think that wandering around with signs is going to make me do what they want.
Not going to happen.
I also see a missed opportunity to show up and riot. A few Charlie Hebdo reprints would have been pretty handy there. 75 guys who need to have it "explained" to them that respect is earned, not extorted.
They were Catholic, separatist and Marxist, a poisonous cobmination
"Inside the mosque, I was hoping that in wake of the Charlie Hebdo massacre, the cleric would have the good sense not to speak about non-Muslims as adversaries or enemies, but my hopes were dashed.
Far from condemning the acts of terror, the cleric, speaking in English, thundered that Islam “will become established in the land, over all other religions, although the ‘Disbelievers’ (Jews, Christians, Hindus and Atheists) hate that.”
Tarek Fatah inside a Toronto mosque. He also wrote that every Muslim prayer session includes the beseeching of Allah to defeat the infidels.
Muslims are worried about Charlie Hebdo and freedom of expression are they?? I'm Canadian born, Christian and I had my comment deleted by CBC.Ca on the following story.
http://www.cbc.ca/news/world/israeli-strike-in-syria-kills-senior-hezbollah-figures-1.2917260
My comment was: ''Hats off to Israel!''
Exactly, although they were Catholic in name only.
And oldidiot, exactly, and they did.
Furthermore, if these people do not like the way we do things here they can bloody well go back to the sh*thole they came from. We do not want to become like the places they came from.
If we start passing laws against speech like this there will be no end. Canada has already passed too many laws through the Marxist HR inquisitional courts.
It must be said that the conflict in Ireland was not primarily a religious fight. It was a people trying to get rid of an unwelcome invader. Religion became the dividing line because the native Irish are Catholic and the invading English are Protestant.
Second point is that every belief system is up for ridicule. If it can not stand said ridicule then it is not a sufficient belief system.
"They were Catholic, separatist and Marxist, a poisonous combination"
It is possible to be Catholic and a separatist.
It is possible to be separatist and a Marxist.
But it is not possible to be Catholic and a Marxist.
Plenty of cod Irish history in these comments too I see.
If I'm reading this correctly, NME666, you're not racist because you hate Christians. Correct?
to all those who support the Islamic murder of people around the world I say this......read the Koran, hadiths and sira. when you have proven to your self that following islam means that you have to kill or enslave non-believers then get back to me. until then I respect your desire to remain ignorant of islam.
I'm not familiar with the term "cod Irish history" nor can I find anything on it; could you please elucidate or maybe give a link.
A friend who can pass for Muslim went to a Muslim funeral in Toronto. This was two days after the Paris massacre. He reports that the deceased was hardly mentioned.
Instead the imam exhorted the faithful to redouble their efforts to - in the imam's words - take Canada. He said that it was the duty of every Muslim in Canada to have as many children as possible and to encourage friends and relatives from the Middle East to move to Canada. His hope was - Allah willing - for a Muslim Canada by the end of the century.
Further he said the Canadian Infidels were in disarray and were fearful of the Muslims and would not be able to resist the Muslims as they took over.
So I have to ask: Are we - us Canadians - mad? Has political correctness completely destroyed any common sense and desire for self protection. Daily new Muslims arrive in Canada. Daily we fall over ourselves to welcome them. And daily they conspire and plot to take over the country. All apparently with the tacit enthusiasm of the media.
Perhaps in some karmic sense we Canadians deserve to be overrun. When one stops being vigilant and truly believe that by being nice people who viscerally hate everything we stand for will suddenly grow to love us. Perhaps a people with such naivete deserves what we will get: the end of Canada as we know it.
But let's end on a positive note. At least a Muslim Canada will still be able to remain close to the United Kaliphate of Britain.
"I'm not familiar with the term 'cod Irish history' nor can I find anything on it; could you please elucidate or maybe give a link."
By that I mean the hodge-podge of notions and nostrums in those last few postings about Ireland and its history which were precipitated by the usual hair-brained comments of the loathsome NME666.
The IRB/IRA was never inherently Roman Catholic (the Church never much approved of it); it is nationalist and republican in nature (and its political front party Sinn Fein is socialist as well). Of course, since the overwhelming majority of Irishmen are Catholic by birth, it follows that the overwhelming majority of IRA members would be too.
The English (actually Norman-English) invasion and occupation of Ireland occurred in the 12th Century. It had nothing to do with Catholic vs Protestant for the simple fact that it took place three centuries before there was such a thing as Protestants. Religious conflict began in earnest once Henry VIII broke from Rome.
Protestants have been in the forefront of Irish republicanism* and Catholics have been represented on the side of the Crown (the former Royal Irish Constabulary - active in combatting the IRB/IRA - was 75 percent Catholic). To a considerable extent, it was never so much "English" vs Irish but rather Irish vs Irish.
The facts of Irish history are far more complicated than the mere cant spouted by the two sectarian divides.
* The first president of the Republic of Ireland was Douglas Hyde. He was not only a member of the Church of Ireland but the son of a CofI minister.
Catholic Liberation Theology and Marxism
http://www.europe-solidaire.org/spip.php?page=article_impr&id_article=664
Liberation Theology has spread through Latin America, Africa, and the Middle East.
It has champions in the western 1st world as well.
"If anything is certain, it is that I myself am not a Marxist."
~Karl Marx
Don't get me started on "Liberation Theology".
You cannot be Marxist and Catholic no matter how much "groovy" Jesuits might try to dissemble.
Well, I'm not Catholic and I don't like Jesuits, but many people who believe in Liberation Theology think they're Catholics.
You must know that simply restating a premise is neither proof nor argument in favor of that premise.
I put that quote from Marx up there, I'm sure you can guess the reason. This new pope seems to say some things that sound to me to be very like Liberation Theology.
You know the old rhetorical question/joke...someone asks you a question to which the answer is invariably "Yes" but instead you reply, "Is the pope Catholic?"