As another terror attack unfolds in Paris…
The Independent that Badawi, who was sentenced to 1,000 lashes, received the first round of 50 in a public flogging after Friday prayers, which it says continue every Friday for 20 weeks.
A witness told the human rights organisation that Badawi was removed from a bus in shackles and taken to a public square in front of the al-Jafali mosque in Jeddah. He was then flogged in front of a crowd and security guards for 15 minutes, before being put back on the bus and driven away.
Amnesty says Badawi, who started the “Free Saudi Liberals” website, was arrested in June 2012 for creating an online forum for public debate and over accusations that he insulted Islam. His website has also been shut down.
Related: “… you almost get the impression, you almost get the impression now that the Western appeasement crowd are in fact willing to be Islam’s enforcers in the West. And that’s very dark and very disturbing, and bad things will flow from that if we cannot even honestly talk about this.”
Timely reminder: Letting Muslims move to the West after 9/11 is like hiding Nazis in your attic during World War 2
— Kathy Shaidle (@kshaidle) January 9, 2015
Looks like Islam is tired of waiting for the West to start the party and have decided to start it themselves. Let’s get our party costumes on. I’m going as a bacon wrapped Salafist.
Hiding Nazis I the attic is a time honored tradition of the Anglo-American Media/banking/conglomerate class. Google “Nazis in the attic” and you will wind up at a web site run by a fellow named Jared Israel. (formerly tenc.net). Read the multi-part piece, which is originally from Christian Science Monitor (I think, I haven’t been there in 10 years or so)> His site was spawned by his outrage at the media line about Yugoslavia etc.
Wonder how long before the media starts pointing out the latest rash of killing/hostage taking in Paris has ‘Nuffin to do wit Islamy’..
Another non-report you’ll never see on the CBC.
“ISIS Reportedly Beheads Street Magician In Syria For Entertaining Kids, Claiming His Tricks Were Insult To Allah”
http://www.inquisitr.com/1734584/isis-reportedly-beheads-street-magician-in-syria-for-entertaining-kids-claiming-his-tricks-were-insult-to-allah/
I guess the usual appeasers are all too busy being Charlie to get outraged over this, or it could be because it’s not Israel doing it.
http://www.wsj.com/articles/egypt-to-demolish-1-220-more-homes-to-increase-gaza-buffer-1420727384
El-Arish, Egypt—The Egyptian army is doubling the size of a buffer zone along the border with the Gaza Strip, an operation that will involve the destruction of 1,220 more homes and the eviction of residents, military officials said Thursday.
And our own president Obmaa supplies these terrorists with weapons and finance while pushing for disarming all law abiding americans a typical traitor and war crinimal
The WWII reference is appropriate.
We’ve bypassed the Chamberlain ‘Peace in our Time’ stage directly to the stage where we’ve signed the articles of surrender.
“Timely reminder: Letting Muslims move to the West after 9/11 is like hiding Nazis in your attic during World War 2”
Timelier reminder: the majority of Germans weren’t Nazis; the (vast) majority of Muslims are not radical fundamentalists.
Yet the Muslim spiritual leader allied with Hitler, so all the muslims were Nazi’s.
P.S. this latest round of Muslim peace was on a Kosher grocery store.
“you almost get the impression now that the Western appeasement crowd are in fact willing to be Islam’s enforcers in the West. ”
Been screaming for years that the Progressive death cult see liberty minded Conservatives and Christians as their main enemy. They figured getting in bed with the sharia sucks sweaty dog balls cult would aid in their battle against us.
Now the media and politicians are scrambling to hide their culpability and in doing so have essentially become Islam’s enforcers.
CBC, CTV, GLOBAL, The Star, Globe, Post and the rest are our literal enemies and they are terrified the sheeple will figure it out.
The future must not belong to those who slander Islam? Screw that. It will belong to Islam or it will belong to those who slaughter the followers of the prophet of Islam.
The biggest problem with the Crusades is that they didn’t finish the job.
I can’t find the words to appropriately mock and denigrate the evil of Islam.
I am so disgusted with our Mayor Nensharia who wants more of these vermin to come to Calgary. The rest of the cowardly council is right on board with him.
Sickening.
It must make our brave veterans wonder why they bothered to win our freedoms during WWII.
One last thought, Raif Badawi vis-à-vis Justin Trudeau. There is an uncanny resemblance, can someone juxtapose? While Badawi receives his 1000 lashes for freeing the Liberals, I’m sure he’ll be pondering the root causes.
Future headline prediction: Justin Trudeau sentenced to 1000 lashes outside Montreal mosque for wanting to free Canadian liberals.
Spurwing Plover >
Oviously if he knows anything about anything it is that an armed population is the biggest threat a totalitarian government can face.
“the (vast) majority of Muslims are not radical fundamentalists.”
As in out of 1.7 billion, so we’re looking at what 1%, 2% maybe more?
A mere 2 or 3 million dedicated Jihadist perhaps.
Of course from several to daily attacks in every country around the globe including Canada, Australia, and the US Islamic terrorism ranks right up there with pit-bull attacks on children, yet I have no doubt you’d be the first to insist on leashes and fences for ALL pit bulls.
At least you can be comforted in the fantasy that your wonderful multicultural opinions actually have some traction at SDA, for everyone else it’s simply proof positive of the mental illness we need to deal with to help secure the safety of our communities.
Foucault >
“the (vast) majority of Muslims are not radical fundamentalists.”
As in out of 1.7 billion, so we’re looking at what 1%, 2% maybe more?
A mere 2 or 3 million dedicated Jihadist perhaps.
Of course from several to daily attacks in every country around the globe including Canada, Australia, and the US Islamic terrorism ranks right up there with pit-bull attacks on children, yet I have no doubt you’d be the first to insist on leashes and fences for ALL pit bulls.
At least you can be comforted in the fantasy that your wonderful multicultural opinions actually have some traction at SDA, for everyone else it’s simply proof positive of the mental illness we need to deal with to help secure the safety of our communities.
“It will belong to Islam or it will belong to those who slaughter the followers of the prophet of Islam.”
There are a million-plus self-identified Canadians of Muslim faith living across the country who are, by definition, “followers of the prophet of Islam.” By “slaughter”, what exactly are you suggesting be done with them?
“The biggest problem with the Crusades is that they didn’t finish the job.”
Exactly, and if I may add to that sentence, the Crusades were an effort to take back lands that the Muslims had conquered from Christians during the previous couple of centuries. All too often we hear radical Muslims using the term Crusades to justify their killing of infidels today, and our progressive apologists are too stupid to retort that the Crusades were a response to their invasions and conquering of Christian lands.
Um, Foucault – nobody here cares about your pointless, head-up-ass parrot-squawk raving. You’re a screamingly obvious Mama’s-basement-dwelling dribbling masturbatory troll, and you’re hugely out of your depth like all previous rabble.ca plants, Warren Kinsellas (hi Warren!) and plain old stinky hippie morons with bongs surgically implanted in their pharynges.
Islam = $hit. We are the future, you are the regrettable past. Get with the program or get left in the dust, dumbo.
Well then it should be a simple matter for the “vast” majority of Muslims to control their radical element, wouldn’t you think?
Also, you said “the majority of Germans weren’t Nazis”. Perhaps that is true, but it didn’t stop Hitler, did it? Perhaps the “majority of Germans” could have stopped him.
You sort of defeated your own “argument”.
There are three links that effectively address and destroy this line of thinking
The Peaceful Majority Are Irrelevant If They Do Nothing
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iI74lOgfxk4
The List of Terror Attacks Since 9/11
http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/pages/thelist.htm
The Myth of the Tiny Radical Muslim Minority
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g7TAAw3oQvg
How can you say “the vast majority” with a straight face?!
Seriously.
The vast majority of Russians weren’t Bolsheviks.
So what.
It’s the VANGUARD that matters.
The vast majority of Chinese weren’t Maoists.
So what.
It’s the VANGUARD that matters.
And those two vanguards killed about 100 million. See the Black Book of Communists written by 6 lefty European academics.
Honestly that phrase is as funny as “some of my best friends” are ______________.
“Timelier reminder: the majority of Germans weren’t Nazis; the (vast) majority of Muslims are not radical fundamentalists.”
And yet… 🙂
How did THAT end up? Thanks for making my point for me.
More accurately, it’s the ones with the guns who matter. I work with a couple of Muslim guys, skilled engineers, who are about as Westernized as it comes. I count one of them as a friend. I’m not going to get behind any pogrom that deports these guys or sees them strung up on the nearest lamppost, even if they hate the JOOOOOZ in their spare time (if hating JOOOOZ is enough to get you turfed out of the West, Kathy would be out one of her main sources of income).
Violent acts or material support for terrorism is another matter entirely; those are crimes. Those are the guys we need to bring down the Martel of Charles on good and hard.
Last I checked, we defeated the Nazis, and we didn’t need to villainise all Germans to do so.
We’ll do the same with radical jihadists, without the need to villainise all Muslims in the process.
“All totalitarian systems loathe mockery and punish those who ridicule their sacred monsters.” -Barbara Kay (Nat. Post)
Those who stand in defense of liberty are always a minority, at first.
Not all of them survive.
But their role is vital,raising the flag, showing the rest the direction of battle.
Governments who deny their citizens the means and thus the Right to self-defence make the defence of liberty more difficult and more costly, as we’ve just seen at the office of Charlie Hebdo.
Regardless of cost, citizens must lead this defence, later governments will find the “courage” to follow.
The sooner more citizens speak out, rallying to the cause, the sooner we prevail.
“Violent acts or material support for terrorism is another matter entirely; those are crimes. Those are the guys we need to bring down the Martel of Charles on good and hard.”
Exactly — basic rule of combat: know your enemy. It’s not “Muslims” (which includes your co-workers/friend); it’s, like you say, “the guys with guns” (which do not).
So when Markon casually frames the conflict as being between “Islam” and “those who slaughter the followers of the prophet of Islam”, it’s a problem.
And when Kathy Shaidle casual equates “Muslims” (as opposed to violent Islamic jihadists) with “Nazis”, it’s a problem too.
Apparently, simply pointing that out makes one a “dribbling masturbatory troll.”
Foucalt – are you for real? Nazis were a minority, and many Germans still feel shame that it is the most common thing people think about when they think of German history. Nazi’s got millions killed – note that I’m not talking about the millions that they directly killed, I’m looking at the efforts that were finally needed to stop them. The common German who wasn’t a Nazi paid a very high price for them. Similarly, the common Muslim in the west needs to look at that history – to kill the cancer of Nazism, the German people were decimated.
If the common Muslim in the west won’t act against the cancer within their society then they should ultimately expect the same result. No that’s not a threat, I’m not one of the ones who would carry it out. If cultures will not assimilate then ultimately one will end up destroying the other. If you want peace with Islam then prepare for dhimmitude. Or death. By their culture you are not their equal, and the idea of equality across cultural/racial divides is foreign to them. Just like it was the to erstwhile ubermensch.
and a lot of ppl painted the Jews with a broad brush, even tho their were upset with a few
how did that work out, Hitler the “part joo” took advantage of that
maybe a loud mouth such as yourself and a few others need to go to wallie’s mark and buy a quart of brains, maybe then you’ll start making some sense
you and some key board heroes/warriors in here need to learn when to STFU. The ppl who will sort things out don’t do so with their yaps!!
Foucault >
“……..we defeated the Nazis, and we didn’t need to villainise all Germans to do so.”
Holy crap, how old are you?
Seriously do you go to some sort of US public school, with lots of basketball courts perhaps?
So sad, to think that once the US hailed to have the “best” education system in the world.
As an addition to my earlier – assimilated Germans in the US and Canada weren’t bombed because they actively helped “our” side. Those who actively resisted assimilation were closely watched and treated with suspicion. Note our treatment of the Japanese at the time. 2nd and 3rd generation Canadians and Americas who still spoke Japanese as the main language at home, and what happened at Niihau Island after Pearl Harbour showed that at lease some of them considered the “Japanese” part of Japanese-American to be dominant to the “American” part.
Cry all we want about it now, it was a precautionary action in time of war. A war that was won by willing use of precautionary actions.
Yes. Very good, Doctor F*cking Einstein, collect your Doctorate of Smartology at the door, hope you enjoyed the lecture.
How does it feel to have a brain-dead goof like Enema 666 as your only ally here BTW? Or are you just two halves of a really ugly case of multiple personality disorder? GTFO, arseholes.
Yes we did villainise all Germans….not to the same extent as the Japanese, but villainise we did. We also slaughtered hundreds of thousands of innocents in Air raids, Dresden being the most infamous. All that said however, and certainly notwithstanding the horrible sacrifice and valor of millions of allied-non-Russian forces (one of whom was my father who suffered greatly from what he saw and did until his suicide), the brunt of the fighting and the majority of the sacrifice was borne by the USSR. Ironically those are the same folks we are now demonizing in Eastern Ukraine and Crimea who suffered having 30% of their population slaughtered by the Germans and their converts in Western Ukraine, who are now in power positions in the new Ukraine and are not at all shy about their support for fascism…but I digress.
The hatred being sown globally is just a product, marketed like Corn Flakes, by those who don’t care anything at all about who needs to suffer and die so they can get what they want. Some claim to be Christian, some Muslim, some Jewish, some Hindu, some Sikh, some Satanists, but all are liars and apostate to their faith (with the possible exception of the Satanists who manifest “Do what though wilt shall be the whole of the law” a la Aleister Crowley as their raison d’etre)
Just a quick one before I hit the road: Kathy, HUGE admirer of yours. Some people truly are beneath contempt, and you have never had a problem dealing with them accordingly. Makes me happy just knowing there are people like you, people with guts, brains, integrity, and a complete lack of bull$hit.
Happy Friday!
I read the Star so you don’t have to:
How not to talk about the Charlie Hebdo massacre
http://www.thestar.com/news/2015/01/08/how_not_to_talk_about_the_charlie_hebdo_massacre.html
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About says it all, really.
Well to be fair to the media, they have been busy.
So busy in fact they are still dealing with the Joe McCarthy story from 50 years ago and haven’t had time to get caught up with current events.
Here’s a quick wiki education for those that apparently lack any.
Internment of German Americans WW1 & WW 2
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internment_of_German_Americans
Foucault, there’s no harm in admitting that you come to SDA to get schooled in the ways of the real world, seriously it beats the alternate reality your trying to present here.
Seems to me we had to invade Germany, which included ALL Germans. So we may have to take on All muslim areas. A huge problem.
I saw an interesting program on the Great Depression (1929) last night on Knowledge Network. I was shocked to learn that in the mid 30s the US WWI vets marched to and camped out at The Capitol Mall in DC with their wives and children to force FDR to honor the USG’s promise to veterans of the war a cash bonus for their sacrifice and service against the hated “HUN”. Lead by Douglas McCarther and assisted by Dwight Eisenhower the US military sent tanks and armed troops to burn them out and murder them if they resisted. This just after Marine General Smedley Butler had been approached by a group of domestic fascists from Wall St. to lead a coup to overthrow FDR…see Butler’s book, War Is A Racket. I’m no FDR fan, but it would seem our friends in “high finance” have not changed their spots.
If you’re going to link to Wikipedia, at least read the article first.
Leaving aside the civil rights issues associated with internment in general, the Wiki page tells us that of the 6 million ethnic Germans in the US circa 1940s, a grand total of 11,507 were interned — less than 0.2%. All German nationals were screened INDIVIDUALLY, and interned only if their past or present associations warranted suspicion. The US didn’t just label all German nationals, let alone all ethnic German Americans, as threats and throw them all in internment camps.
Hey, Foucault, try this analogy.
“Radical Muslims”- the first team, the starting lineup of Team Islam. They’re the guys you put out on the field when you’ve got the ball or need to stop the other team from scoring in the last few minutes. They’re wearing the Islam jersey.
“Moderate Muslims” – the guys on the bench. They are wearing the same jersey and want the starters to win. They’re cheering them on hoping for the score or stop, whatever the case may be. Keep in mind, THEY’RE WEARING THE SAME JERSEY.
Foucault >
“All German nationals were screened INDIVIDUALLY, and interned only if their past or present associations warranted suspicion.”
Thank you, so you finally agree with something logical. great, next………….
So as you undoubtedly know the numbers of German was too low, many more American lives could probably have been saved had the net been much wider, earlier.
BTW – Speaking of civil rights issues, we hear allot of crying from the left about the Japanese internments, war reparations and all, but crickets for the the White Germans that were interned. Hell you didn’t even know that white Germans were interned during the war by your earlier comments.
So why the hate on for white people Foucault?
No rational person believes every Muslim is a crackpot waiting to murder innocent people but no rational person should accept the myth that there are “lone wolves” who defy the “majority” of an otherwise “peaceful” religion. We’ve come too far to continue with those delusions.
One reason why the sort of barbarity can continue in Saudi Arabia with all its sanitised and ritualised horror is because people have purposefully thrown away their moral compasses and done away with critical thinking. Nancy Pelosi did no one any favours by wearing a head scarf in Syria even when Syrian human rights activists bemoaned that she set back the discussion of women’s rights by years. Indeed, people pay more attention to false rape cases by fat white liberal broads than they do of girls and women in Islamic countries. If sexually assaulting women is a sign of barbarity, where is the outcry, or is held in check because ‘that’s what brown people over there do’?
Sorry, C_Miner’s got the truth of it. This isn’t (or shouldn’t be) about Westerners vs. Muslims; it’s about people who believe in Classical Enlightenment values vs. those who believe in violent theocratic tribalism. No matter how Westernized a people are, if in the end they choose a 7th century totalitarian ideology over the pluralist democratic nations that welcomed them and made them safe and wealthy, then they can’t expect sympathy or consideration.
The reason so many people are willing to demonize all Muslims is that the Muslims that are not taking up arms directly are often quietly and diligently supporting those who do with money, material, or lawfare. And it’s often nigh impossible to distinguish them from the Muslim equivalent of C&E Christians who just want to collect a paycheque and live in peace. You keep saying that it’s unworkable and ineffective to deport all Muslims or screen out Muslims at immigration. Well, how do you propose we identify the dangerous ones?
Daniel Ream >
“This isn’t (or shouldn’t be) about Westerners vs. Muslims; it’s about people who believe in Classical Enlightenment values vs. those who believe in violent theocratic tribalism.”
A well written post!
Unfortunately, I don’t think the “Muslims” see it the same way you do, and they live amongst us in vast numbers. Growing exponentially.
http://news.nationalpost.com/2015/01/09/satirical-depictions-of-religious-leaders-should-be-illegal-says-ottawa-imam/
On cue, The Ottawa Citizen has posted a proposal from the local Imam that all satirical images of religious leaders should be illegal. Implicitly this implies that Jews, Catholics, Baptists Mormons share a similar inclination to mayhem and murder should their beliefs be held up to ridicule. I don’t think such a case can be made, all these groups have had to shut up take all sorts of abuse of their basic beliefs.
The cartoons are offered as the cause of the recent murders, but does anyone believe that an absence of such comment would end all such violent outbursts world wide? The slaughter of 3000 souls in New York was some time before the Danish cartoons, I don’t recall any direct motive offered by the terrorists as to why they obliterated the World Trade Centre.
Perhaps they had the means and inclination so just did it. Very hard to deal or negotiate with such fanatical beliefs and that is the problem facing western democracies.
What people like you are either unable to comprehend or unwilling to admit, Foucault, is that wherever there are large numbers of Muslims the extremists come with the package. If a country imports a million Muslims, it will also be importing extremists; it’s just that straight.
Well, which country, or countries, are you referring to? According to a Pew poll taken last year, 70 percent of Egyptians support shariah law, and about 86 percent of those who support shariah law are in favour of executing anyone who leaves Islam. In other words, about 60% of Egyptians are in favour of killing (generally beheading) people who hold the wrong views. Pakistan has comparable numbers.
I guess the 40 percent of Egyptians who aren’t in favour of executing apostates represent the “vast majority”.
I listened to CBC chief politically correct toady David Studer laboriously stammering his way through his twisted logic regarding his decision not to air that which promoted the terrorist murders in France. He was “debating” a journalist from Quebec and Andrew Coyne. His argument was that “we were gutless fellatio artists before the massacre in France and we will be steadfast in holding on to our cowardly ideals of political correctness and deceiving the Canadian public no matter what jihadis do”. This a-hole would have embarrassed Neville Chamberlain. The muslim jihadis are at least honest in telling us they hate democracy and they want to get rid of it and to kill all non-muslims. Gotta go, sun is going down and I have to get to mosque.
“And it’s often nigh impossible to distinguish them from the Muslim equivalent of C&E Christians who just want to collect a paycheque and live in peace.”
Is it, though? You say you have coworkers and friends who are Muslim, which presumably means you managed to make the distinction.
“You keep saying that it’s unworkable and ineffective to deport all Muslims or screen out Muslims at immigration. Well, how do you propose we identify the dangerous ones?”
By doing what we’re already doing. Intelligence, national security, and police agencies using the tools at their disposal to identify, monitor, and disrupt/neutralize potential terrorist threats. Same said agencies continuing to work with Muslim community partners to identify those in the community who are suspected or at risk of Islamic radicalization. Continuing to perform security checks of all immigration applicants (no, not just those originating from “Muslim” countries). Beef up resources for all of the above, as required. Balance all of the above with respect for civil liberties and other professed Canadian values, as appropriate.
Also: stop living in fear of the “Muslim other” (I’m not suggesting that you personally do). Recognize that the real enemy, the more specific enemy, is radical jihadism (“the ones with the guns”, and those supporting them). Stop referring to “Muslims” or “Islam” as the problem, and call out people who do. Know that lazy rhetoric that demonizes all Muslims or Islam simply plays into the jihadists’ hands.
Will the above steps prevent every possible future terrorist attack on Canadian soil? No, but then no measure, not even the most draconian and heavy-handed you can think of, can offer such a guarantee.
So you’re saying, for the record, that what’s being done now is working? You’ve ignored a number of direct questions. Rather than stating the history that I think contradicts your points, I’ll leave you with that one question. Otherwise, why don’t you answer Daniel’s questions about how WE identify the harmful ones (since they’re not publicly self-identifying)?