30 Replies to “The Sound Of Settled Science”

  1. An associate, a cardiac researcher, commented that the discovery that Japanese with a high fish diet had little or no heart disease…perhaps the lowest globally…..BUT…..Japanese have the highest rate of stroke….
    I figure it matters little what causes ya to drop dead….but the prospect of surviving a stroke with brain damage is scary.
    May ya live long…die quick…and have yer back turned (not see it coming)….

  2. Food paranoia – brought to you by the same necromancer class who gave you eugenics, abortion, thalidomide and other big pharma poisons. Quack, quack, quack.

  3. This is an excellent synopsis of the whole cholesterol and saturated fat debacle that has been destroying our health for the last 50 years. I came to these conclusions 40 years ago after some basic chemistry courses. The simple fact that the only way to make a liquid fat solid is to add hydrogen atoms to the molecule . This creates a molecule that does not exist in nature. Therefore the odd that our bodies know what to do with this substance are not very good.
    Consequently I stopped eating margarine 40 years ago. I also listened to my own body and eat meat because that was the only food that actually satisfied my hunger. I have never had a weight problem and have a very well functioning immune system.
    About 10 years ago I purchased life insurance and at that point I was told my cholesterol might be an issue.
    I started to investigate this issue and discovered all this information out there about how poor the science was that launched this whole cholesterol myth. I read extensively and also started observing .
    I worked in the health care industry for 30 years in Neurophysiology and acquired a broad based knowledge of how body systems work.
    Over the years I have met many individuals who were in their 50 and 60 who mysteriously started having joint, nerve and muscle pain as well as increasing memory problems. I would ask these people if they were on STATINS and invariably they were. It was starling to me.
    The side effects from this class of drugs are so alarming it is hard to believe that they are being prescribed to almost anyone who sees a doctor.
    The fact that the general population has been scared off of eating animal protein correlates with increased obesity. I lived in a small town in Saskatchewan and meat was the staple of most peoples diets. There was no obesity in our community at that time. In a school population of about 350 there were 2 children that I can remember that would be classified as obese.
    If look around at kids today the I am sure the rate of obesity is considerably higher that that.
    People have to eat something. Therefore they turned to carbohydrates. It turns out that carbohydrates are cheaper and easier to cook that meat. But the chain of events that followed this transition has been devastating. The epidemic of type 2 diabetes is most likely a direct result of this transition. Carbohydrates are metabolized into glucose and are poured into your bloodstream. This causes your body to have to produce massive amounts of insulin to handle the high blood sugar. This eventually damages the insulin receptors and they stop working properly which leads to type 2 diabetes.
    The other possible result of these high carbohydrate diets may be the increase in cancers in our population. There is some evidence that some individuals have been able to get their cancer under control by using a Ketogenic diet.
    This diet excludes carbohydrates completely. Their theory is that cancer cells die without carbohydrates but the human body can function using fat and protein for fuel.
    If you follow the money the Pharmaceutical Industry and the Big Food Companies have made out like bandits but the general health of our population is suffering.
    Here are a few good website that are authored by very reputable scientists. there is a lot of information to digest( I couldn’t resist the pun) . I think it is vital that as many individuals as possible educate themselves and make dietary decisions based on evidence.
    This cholesterol myth closely resembles the whole global warming fiasco.
    http://www.thincs.org/
    http://www.ravnskov.nu/cholesterolhttp://
    spacedoc.com/

  4. I disagree with the opening statement “the food industry has shaped our ideas..”. The food industry responded to, er, dietary pressure from the force the world to be healthy people, AKA socialist health care systems.

  5. I kind-of agreed with your point of view, Anonymous, but then I developed Type !! diabetes, and I don’t fit the at-risk profile. I’m not fat, I don’t have heart disease, I have ideal blood pressure and eat a balanced diet, yet I got diabetes.
    My niece pointed me to a book called “The China Study” that I’ve only started reading that seems to indicate that too much dietary protein is the culprit. The research appears to be properly done, yet it doesn’t explain why diabetes is so much more prevalent than it was 50 years ago when meat consumption was similar. I suspect there’s more to discover.
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    [url]http://www.amazon.ca/China-Study-Comprehensive-Nutrition-Implications/dp/1932100660/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1417367701&sr=1-1&keywords=the+china+study[/url]
    “The China Study is not a diet book. Dr. Campbell cuts through the haze of misinformation and delivers an insightful message to anyone living with cancer, diabetes, heart disease, obesity, and those concerned with the effects of aging.”

  6. Slightly related – this past week I noticed a scare article that the CDC says kids are eating more than the “recommended Maximum” of salt. Not mentioned was the summer 2013 CDC study finding “no adverse effect” for triple the maximum recommended intake (for people who do not have hypertension).

  7. I kind-of agreed with your point of view, Anonymous, but then I developed Type !! diabetes, and I don’t fit the at-risk profile. I’m not fat, I don’t have heart disease, I have ideal blood pressure and eat a balanced diet, yet I got diabetes.
    My niece pointed me to a book called “The China Study” that I’ve only started reading that seems to indicate that too much dietary protein is the culprit. The research appears to be properly done, yet it doesn’t explain why diabetes is so much more prevalent than it was 50 years ago when meat consumption was similar. I suspect there’s more to discover.
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    “The China Study is not a diet book. Dr. Campbell cuts through the haze of misinformation and delivers an insightful message to anyone living with cancer, diabetes, heart disease, obesity, and those concerned with the effects of aging.”

  8. Heart disease an cholesterol notwithstanding … there is the thing about becoming a huge, fat, sweaty layabout.

  9. Couldn’t agree with you more. The global warming “ponzi” scheme will be a more costly fraud than the saturated fat issue ever was. Fortunately, thanks to the internet and bloggers, we are not beholding to the MSM any longer for our news and ‘truth’. The down-side is that there are already moves afoot in America to rein in the internet and to “sanatize” the content. Once that is accomplished they can begin brainwashing the LIV’s all over again.

  13. “The biggest myth in medical history” I don’t know… I kinda think bloodletting and drilling holes into people’s skulls should be contenders at least.

  14. Biggest hoaxes:
    1. Global warming
    2. Lysenkoism
    3. Piltdown man
    Things like phlogiston and blood letting were sincerely held erroneous ideas, therefore not hoaxes.

  15. The secret to a happy life is ignore all “experts” and especially Surgeons General. If you enjoy it, eat it, drink it or smoke it as long as it’s in moderation and legal. Anything to the contrary is someone else’s opinion of how you should live. The health industry and the global warming industry have a lot of parallels and a change in attitude will eliminate the number 1 killer, as mentioned in the video,……stress.

  16. The road sign to metabolic hell reads: “Everything in moderation.” It’s almost a prescription for diabetes and heart disease by the time one reaches 60.
    There has been little genuine science in nutrition and health. It’s been driven by politics, egos and commercial interests. Fred Kummerow revealed the lack of science behind trans fats and the folly of the cholesterol hypothesis in the 1950s. He’s been eating eggs almost daily in defiance and is still running an active research lab at University of Illinois at age 100. Now that statin patents are starting to expire the general thinking is starting to come around his way.
    To avoid chronic disease and live a long, youthful life, the science is pointing to three main factors. (1) Keep insulin levels low. You need to figure out what works for you to achieve that. (2) Keep vitamin D3 levels high. Throw out the sunscreen, among other things. (3) Lower the omega-6 to omega-3 ratio in your diet. Avoid margarine and vegetable oil.

  17. Very interesting.
    From one of the researchers in the clip, “fudging the data”. Now what contemporary science fudges the data? Oh yes, I remember, the AGW/Climate change so-called scientists.

  18. After viewing the video, I wanted to see Part 2, regarding the prescribing of statins. That video has been removed from the website. Obviously, a great deal of controversy occurred when these videos were aired.
    “Following a number of complaints, the ABC’s independent Audience and Consumer Affairs Unit investigated the programs………. the A&CA has concluded that while both programs met the ABC’s editorial standards for accuracy, a section of part two was found to breach impartiality standards. The full investigation report can be viewed here:”
    http://about.abc.net.au/wp-content/uploads/2014/05/Catalyst-Heart-of-the-Matter-ACA-Investigation-Report.pdf
    If you are interested in Part 2 (regarding the use of statins), that part of the report starts on page 35 of the pdf above.

  19. Don’t ignore the obvious. People are obese because they consume a high-sugar, high-fat, high-starch diet, then sit on their fat asses watching a screen.
    What our body doesn’t need to maintain metabolism gets stored as fat for later periods of low food supplies or higher energy demands in the cold. If those ‘lean’ times never come the fat just accumulates.

  20. We are not going to live forever. No one is going to die “healthy”. Unless you are healthy, then get hit by a truck, even then you are not healthy because, truck impact.
    My suspicion is that everyone becomes at least partially diabetic as they age because any old pancreas is not going to work as well as any young pancreas. The same way an old heart, muscles and lungs don’t work as well as young ones.
    Life is terminal. Accept it.
    Margarine is disgusting. I wouldn’t eat it if it guaranteed eternal life.

  21. I’ve never met anyone who wanted to live forever. All want to live healthy for as long as they can. Unfortunately most people leave their health choices to others instead of taking control of what and how much they eat.

  22. I know that politician’s like to lurk behind the curtains at SDA.
    As a lawmaker in Canada, if you truly have the welfare of Canadians at heart, legislation needs to be “tweeked” that Big Pharma is held accoutable for their claims on what their drugs do/don’t do.
    Why should the taxpayer funded health care system be paying for the human carnage of drugs gone wrong all the while the drug makers make off like bandits with billions in profits? The auto makers have their feet held to the fire when defective car parts result in people being hurt and killed….the same should apply to Big Pharma.

  24. There were two contenders for a dietary cause of heart disease in the time frames discussed in the video – animal fats and some kind of protein – and a young PhD and MD researcher at Harvard Medical School and Mass General Hospital, Kilmer McCully, was looking into the protein angle. Because some amino acids had not been identified and isolated at the time he was not making progress. The culprit was, and is, methionine, an essential amino acid not known.
    All research money was going into fats, and he was de-funded and eventually fired, and blackballed. He was only able to get a job in medicine, as a pathologist at the Providence Veterans Administration Medical Center, through the intervention of James Watson, co-discoverer of the double helix (structure of DNA).
    Part of his story can be found here:
    http://www.nytimes.com/1997/08/10/magazine/the-fall-and-rise-of-kilmer-mccully.html

  25. I was at the Mayo Clinic many years ago, and told exactly the same as the Vimeo summarizes.
    As for the global warming comments, at -26C, (Nov. 30–10:32 PM CST) it’s hard to believe!

  27. As you know we just had our Thanksgiving in America and most sites that I visit mention with glee the glut of food and desserts. Then the next few days posts about overcoming their purposeful overeating.
    That is on top of their usual overeating, so, double/triple/quadruple overeating.
    I cannot do that. I am underweight for my height and always have been. I can grow fat cells but I don’t like even a few extra pounds jiggling around. I feel uncomfortable when tying my shoes.
    I had no pie for Thanksgiving. Just a regular reasonable meal. I am not bragging nor posturing, just describing. It seems to me simple.
    And sometimes I make a pie for myself (a small 7″ pie) and eat the whole thing in stages. And I don’t care that it’s not good for me.
    La la la, I’m going to die. But not due to trans fat, not due to too much carbs, not due to too much dairy, not due to eggs, nor bacon, nor sugar, nor excessive alcohol.
    All of these things serial obsessions drive me nuts. I’m well beyond having people suggest how to live. I didn’t even watch the video.

  28. someone once said that we should eat like our grandparents did. that would mean no processed foods and everything purchased fresh and cooked at home. my grandparents lived into their late 80’s with very few health problems. my father lived to 88 and died form pneumonia. my mother is still living and is 94. physically she is as well as could be expected but things are wearing out. they consumed very little in the way of processed foods.

  29. There’s a lot of truth to that, and I know quite a few extraordinarily healthy people who agree.

  30. Eating fat does not make you fat. Eating a diet high in sugar – carbs being the prime delivery system out refined sugars – is the culprit. Stop sending your glycemic levels through the roof and you will not gain weight.

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