Vacillation

Turdo and Mulcair treating this scum like they were nothing but some kind of characters in a Star Wars movie.

Maybe that's it. Dopi Wahabi-K'nobbi and Queen-Tom Jinn.

Am hoping the coalition can put it together in time to save Kobani. The Kurds are making an heroic stand there and air support oughtta be lined up waiting to dump their ordinance.

Trudeau and Mulcaire are despicable excuses for human beings.

"...from political sophistry and disingenuousness to downright juvenile and insulting."

Exactly so. The Calgary Herald indeed gets it, though it's clear that the CBC doesn't (what a surprise). Look at the company we are being asked to keep. Rather than join the US, UK, France, Denmark, Netherlands, Australia, Belgium, Mulcair and Shiny Pony would have us in league with Germany, Italy, Norway.

Remind me again. Who were our friends and allies in WW2 and who were our enemies?

Why is anyone surprised at the ruminations of Trudeau and Mulcair. The former had a father that showed zero respect to Canadians fighting the Nazis, and Mulcair is a dual citizen who I suspect has more loyalty to the country in which he does not reside.

They're playing to their base, who are not necessarily pro-NDP or pro-Liberal, but are anti-Harper thanks to a prolonged anti-Harper campaign by the media party and others. So their safe political move is to oppose all things Harper.

Though political memories are short, I think Trudeau has buried his PM chances with this fence sitting non show of leadership. Then again I've never thought he could win, and his support in the polls, for what it's worth right now, has slid sharply since his latest theatrics. That will continue as we approach and contest an election, notwithstanding more idiotic comments and juvenile attempts at political humour. He has shown himself to not follow advice (no Liberal advisor would ever tell him to make his stupid CF18 comments), he has succeeded in alienating huge swaths of the Liberal team, including the Senate, which forebodes poorly for his organizational and grassroots support on the hustings in 2015.

This debate is all very well, but in reality the proposed campaign of air strikes and what appears to be limited ground forces to degrade ISIS/ISIL can also be criticized from the other side in that it will come nowhere near the level of force required to deal with these jokers.

The NATO countries might do well to reconsider their entire strategy in the region. The Libya misadventure did absolutely nothing useful, the Syria decisions have been shown to be counter-productive. We would probably be further ahead at this point to admit that, join with Putin and approach Assad to consider a joint assault on ISIS/ISIL. Some rebel elements could be named as non-combatants in that assault and told to stay out of the battle zones, other rebel elements could be identified as more hostile than friendly and warned to stay well clear or be involved as de facto allies of ISIS/ISIL.

If we don't go to this extent, we are going to be shadow boxing with an enemy that can easily blend into civilian populations that are already compromised by being supporters of Assad enemies. This will mean that under the terms of engagement announced by Canada (assuming this is general thinking in NATO) we can only fight ISIS/ISIL if there is no appearance of helping Assad indirectly. It won't take much military insight within ISIS/ISIL to figure out how to play that card.

As to the Canadian debate, the government is closer to being right than the opposition. But we might want to step back and ask, what exactly is the best strategy? I don't believe we have heard it defined at all by any of the western governments. And that ideal strategy must consider that it would be no gain to degrade ISIS/ISIL in such a way that it is replaced by something equally brutal and hostile to western interests. There is a sort of floating "real enemy" concept that can jump from one group to another, and that real enemy needs to be defined -- I would start by calling it aggressive expansionist Islam. Then the names don't matter and the actions do matter.

As simple policy on how to deal with Assad....don't....destroy daesh (ISIS) then if Assad misbehaves then deal with (destroy) him the same way.

The Democrats & Obama only have 2 years to eliminate ISIS or theywill go into the dust pan of History. If they haven't solved ISIS by 2016 Obama's legacy & Hillary's chances are NIL. The Democrats are eating each other, and we can expect to be ALL IN.

It's going to get HOT for ISIS, one way or another.

BTW: What does Jessie Jackson have to do with the EBOLA patient in Texas. Is he the Sponsor? (patients brother thanked Jackson).

The Middle East is like a Pig Party with the ugliest entry being the enemy de jour. While we assist Iran by going after ISIS (Aren't they le meme chose as the Saudi's second largest export to the West - Wahabi Jihadism?) the Saudis continue funding their replacements while silencing dissent all over the West. We are on Putin's side whether we like it or not but doesn't that put us at odds with Israel, the only civilized friend of the West?

Meanwhile Islamic Supremacy marches Westward unabated while we expend more treasure and blood at the Pig Party following the lead of that strategic genius, Obama-Jarett. It's almost as if there were a plan in effect!

Air strikes are a waste of everything and prone to collateral damage UNLESS ya have "boots on the ground".

Those boots have to have a visual on the targets and a laser designator (or a GPS equipped sight) to "paint" them. This was how the Northern Alliance rolled up the Taliban so fast. This how a B52 picks off point targets from above the overcast, from 30,000 ft ....it's the guy on the ground.

It's a kind of magic......